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13 minutes ago, Descendant said:

Fyi the government pressured social media companies in the not too distant past. That's why it was so upsetting when Elon bot Twitter. 

Brought this to the immamac recommended thread.

i remember the government trying to get SM companies to remove misinformation, not individuals. What am I missing?

Elon bot twitter is a good description, though.

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Cancelled our D+/Hulu/ESPN bundle, you couldn't even watch any sports that made a shit with the bundle anyways

Same. Never really watched it much and it was always a pain in the ass to get whatever I wanted on espn+ to actually work
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1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

Bud Light drew the ire of MAGA for the Dylan Mulvaney (sp?) thing but it was a one-off collaboration that wasn't meant to be continuous in the first place and they didn't actually do anything in response to MAGA whining (unless you count their later partnership with the UFC, I guess?), they just kind of weathered the storm. The boycott was real and it did cost them some money but there was no real action taken that could be considered "caving" from what I recall.

Bud Light was/is a very working-class brand.  But beyond that, Bud LIght is kind of a stale brand.  It lacks the hipster appeal of Old Style and PBR.  At the same time, it lacks any marker of being new or different or better than any of its competitors.

Against that backdrop is the fact that in America in 2024, "working class" increasingly means "Hispanic."  You don't need to have had much experience with Hispanic workers to know that Bud Light has been a perinneal favorite.

Bud LIght has now taken a hit.  It's no longer the best-selling beer in America.  The best-selling beer in America is now Modelo.  Which is owned by . . . [checks notes] . . . AB InBev.

 

You know--I've never subscribed to the conspiracy theory that New Coke was just a ploy to take Coke off the market for six months to cover for the introduction of HFCS.  It's a fun theory, but I've never bought it.

If I did buy that theory, then I'd definitely believe that AB InBev purposefully concocted the entire Mulvaney kerfuffle to manufacture a "popular" shift from a stale brand to a brand that is more marketable to the 21st Century American working class.

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16 hours ago, SizzleChest said:

It's not going to get better.  It will only get worse after Paramount gets approval to acquire WB/Discovery, including CNN.

Bent knees everywhere.  Constitution in full tatters.

I read somewhere and I tend to agree-- it's not JUST the politics driving this, but also AI and the way the business model has evolved away from television, that all of media is regressing and it will look less like the 2000's and more liek the 1400's and the Medici's where you've got like 3 or 4 powerful families (but, corporations) who control and pay for all the content creation and distribution. You'll have the alt-right one, the conservative one, the lesser conservative one and the liberal one.

15 hours ago, Pancho said:

There should be no more talk of liberal media. All media and even social media are now owned by radical republicans.

If you've been following The David Ellison Skydance stuff (nepo baby to 10 days ago world's richest man Larry, briefly overtaking Elon as Oracle's earnings gave the stock a pop) and the the Lachlan Murdoch succession drama of Fox properties, the die seems cast for the forseeable future...

15 hours ago, Red Five said:

From what I saw, Kimmel's comments were more directed at the administration and not Charlie Kirk himself. So that's fun too.

I'm like a lot of folks who posted that Jimmy Kimmel is not only not funny but actually annoys and grates me with his attempts at humor, so I don't watch. But this isn't about him or his show anymore, it's the principle(s) at play now.

14 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

It’s almost like giving the country away to corporations was a bad idea.

The media business was never not owned by corporations. You can actually argue that the internet disruption actually democratized terrestial media (e.g. streaming, YouTubers, Influencers and short form content creators) in a way that has hurt the legacy media machine.

AI will likely hurt the Hollywood complex as well.

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26 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Marc Maron, Patton Oswalt Call for Action in the Wake of Kimmel Suspension: ‘This Is the Deciding Moment’

“If they can come for Kimmel, they can come for all of us,” the WTF host says

https://www.thewrap.com/marc-maron-patton-oswalt-jimmy-kimmel/

It's a popular response when something happens to say, "Freedom of Speech is not the freedom from consequences, it's just that the government can't punish you".

In this case it seems that most people are drawing a direct line of the government pressuring ABC to fire Kimmel. That may be the case but it does seem like it's absolving the business and corporate interests (Nexstar, Disney/ABC, etc.) of their automony and decision-making in kowtowing to either a) government pressure or b) fear of financial and public backlash for not doing anything. 

I guess I need to read more about it but my skeptical and contrarian mind defaults to just because the Dotard and weirdos celebrated this online doesn't mean that it's not actually the broadcasters who are to blame (and they think they are serving their best financial interests).

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15 hours ago, Pancho said:

There should be no more talk of liberal media. All media and even social media are now owned by radical republicans.

I watch MSNBC, it doesn't seem republican to me.

Posted
1 minute ago, Hard Times said:

I watch MSNBC, it doesn't seem republican to me.

Two of its most popular hosts are former Republicans who bear at least some responsibility for our current political mess.

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7 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

It's a popular response when something happens to say, "Freedom of Speech is not the freedom from consequences, it's just that the government can't punish you".

In this case it seems that most people are drawing a direct line of the government pressuring ABC to fire Kimmel. That may be the case but it does seem like it's absolving the business and corporate interests (Nexstar, Disney/ABC, etc.) of their automony and decision-making in kowtowing to either a) government pressure or b) fear of financial and public backlash for not doing anything. 

I guess I need to read more about it but my skeptical and contrarian mind defaults to just because the Dotard and weirdos celebrated this online doesn't mean that it's not actually the broadcasters who are to blame (and they think they are serving their best financial interests).

while i agree that nextstar and abc are being gutless and not calling the bluff (sinclair is honestly just a piece of shit company) and i am not absolving them from their kowtowing, the fcc chairman made multiple public threats yesterday regarding the revocation of their broadcasting licenses. it's not a "may be the case" situation. it was a clear and direct existential threat to the broadcasting network.

i certainly believe these pussies should have said "do it and we will see you at the supreme court" but their being pussies likewise does not mean you get to obfuscate and distract from the point that it was the government that set the censorship events into motion via abuse of their power. private organizations acting in the best interest of their bottom line is certainly contributing to the ethical decline of our society...but it pales in comparison with a shithead brownshirted sycophant abusing their governmental role in a moment of naked corruption.

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12 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

the only strike that would have any effect would be the nflpa refusing to play monday nights

$65m every week down the drain

 

yeah, about that.

If you don't have an hour to spend, well.  Let's just say that won't happen.
 

 

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28 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

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From 2021 

Can't believe there was a time in my life where I thought Carolla was the "funny" one from The Man Show. What a fucking tool.

 

12 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

It's a popular response when something happens to say, "Freedom of Speech is not the freedom from consequences, it's just that the government can't punish you".

In this case it seems that most people are drawing a direct line of the government pressuring ABC to fire Kimmel. That may be the case but it does seem like it's absolving the business and corporate interests (Nexstar, Disney/ABC, etc.) of their automony and decision-making in kowtowing to either a) government pressure or b) fear of financial and public backlash for not doing anything. 

I guess I need to read more about it but my skeptical and contrarian mind defaults to just because the Dotard and weirdos celebrated this online doesn't mean that it's not actually the broadcasters who are to blame (and they think they are serving their best financial interests).

At some point, you'd like somebody to take a fucking stand and tell the orange pedophile to pound sand and deal with the consequences. In reality, it would only take a handful of Republicans in the House and Senate to possibly (possibly) right this ship and start fumigating Trump 2.0.

 

36 minutes ago, immamac said:

This is all self inflicted and this should be the time where everyone says enough. 

Pretty much.

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16 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

It's a popular response when something happens to say, "Freedom of Speech is not the freedom from consequences, it's just that the government can't punish you".

In this case it seems that most people are drawing a direct line of the government pressuring ABC to fire Kimmel. That may be the case but it does seem like it's absolving the business and corporate interests (Nexstar, Disney/ABC, etc.) of their automony and decision-making in kowtowing to either a) government pressure or b) fear of financial and public backlash for not doing anything. 

I guess I need to read more about it but my skeptical and contrarian mind defaults to just because the Dotard and weirdos celebrated this online doesn't mean that it's not actually the broadcasters who are to blame (and they think they are serving their best financial interests).

Two things can be true at once, man. 

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10 minutes ago, sidis said:

while i agree that nextstar and abc are being gutless and not calling the bluff (sinclair is honestly just a piece of shit company) and i am not absolving them from their kowtowing, the fcc chairman made multiple public threats yesterday regarding the revocation of their broadcasting licenses. it's not a "may be the case" situation. it was a clear and direct existential threat to the broadcasting network.

i certainly believe these pussies should have said "do it and we will see you at the supreme court" but their being pussies likewise does not mean you get to obfuscate and distract from the point that it was the government that set the censorship events into motion via abuse of their power. private organizations acting in the best interest of their bottom line is certainly contributing to the ethical decline of our society...but it pales in comparison with a shithead brownshirted sycophant abusing their governmental role in a moment of naked corruption.

Ah, I just read something that I think gets to the raw unvarnished truth of why Nexstar did this and of course, it's currying of political favor:

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Two companies that together own about 70 ABC affiliates said that they would pull Kimmel’s show. One of them is Nexstar, which is trying to buy Tegna for $6.2 billion — a deal that requires approval from the F.C.C. We’ve seen something like this before: Paramount settled a lawsuit filed by President Trump, and then received approval for its sale to Skydance.

 

Posted
17 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, you could avoid going through any legitimate Disney/ABC/ESPN channel.  Have your cake and eat it too.

I've  done  it for 6 years for baseball... for different reasons of course; but the execution would be similar.

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4 minutes ago, Iceman said:

I've  done  it for 6 years for baseball... for different reasons of course; but the execution would be similar.

MLB hates hometown fans watching their own team, it's wild

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Posted (edited)

MLB hates fans who live closer to Denver and KC than to the Astros, but yeah, the bigger point is that there are still multiple platforms with which to get your sports fix that aren't through the namebrand media outlets.

For now.

And Star Wars content, y'all probably know that shit frontwards and backwards, but I wouldn't know where to start looking for it away from D+.

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1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

Subscribing to YTTV still puts money in ABC’s pocket, but I guess it’s better than subscribing to the Disney, Hulu package. I’m rolling off Uverse this week and was planning to get the Hulu Live ESPN package. I will switch to YTTV as at least a tiny protest.  

I canceled Hulu, but have Disney Plus on a different account and can't figure out how to cancel it.  When I sign in, it shows my profile for a moment and then switches back to saying "Log In".  No way to access my account or subscription settings.  God dammit.

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1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

Subscribing to YTTV still puts money in ABC’s pocket, but I guess it’s better than subscribing to the Disney, Hulu package. I’m rolling off Uverse this week and was planning to get the Hulu Live ESPN package. I will switch to YTTV as at least a tiny protest.  

They can and do track who is watching each channel and how much they're watching it. We are all just drops in the bucket but my drop won't be registering as viewing any Disney related channel. I will watch Texas games when the condensed games hit YouTube. 

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I canceled Hulu, but have Disney Plus on a different account and can't figure out how to cancel it.  When I sign in, it shows my profile for a moment and then switches back to saying "Log In".  No way to access my account or subscription settings.  God dammit.

Mine directed me to My Disney to cancel. Cancelled that then it said I had to cancel each individually. Went to Hulu website and cancelled that. Still not sure about Disney+
Annoying
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1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Marc Maron, Patton Oswalt Call for Action in the Wake of Kimmel Suspension: ‘This Is the Deciding Moment’

“If they can come for Kimmel, they can come for all of us,” the WTF host says

https://www.thewrap.com/marc-maron-patton-oswalt-jimmy-kimmel/

Plenty of Patton Oswalt tickets still available for Paramount tomorrow night.  If you've never seen him, he's awesome.

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I doubt major corporations take individual complaints seriously, but a sending a few letters to advertisers pointing out that their products are no longer on one's shopping list can't hurt.  If the numbers get big enough (which they won't) . . .

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1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

image.jpeg.438f424ef00372cd76d1969e7908b5c2.jpeg
 

From 2021 

I was wondering what this fucking moron has to say about this. He probably still considers Jimmy a friend, so that combined with his previous stance on cancel culture should lead to a pretty vicious take down of the administration.

Right?

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If you live in Houston, KTRK ABC13 is an owned and operated station meaning that it is owned by the Disney corporation. Give them a ring at 713.666.0713 to express your displeasure. And, no, I did not make that phone number up.

Posted
21 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Is it on autodraft?  Turn that shit off at the bank and I bet it stops.

Had RocketMoney cancel it.  Let's see if that works.

18 minutes ago, TexPx said:


Mine directed me to My Disney to cancel. Cancelled that then it said I had to cancel each individually. Went to Hulu website and cancelled that. Still not sure about Disney+
Annoying

Same

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Front page of the NYT today:

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Ezra Klein argues that the left desperately needs a unifying project — for its own survival and for the sake of the country. In this episode of Ross Douthat’s “Interesting Times,” Ross and Ezra assess the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination and debate whether the left has taken a dark turn.

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Ezra Klein is not helping. could not be more damaging to the Republic if he tried.

FIF accuracy.  Utterly ignore the fucking TORRENT of right-wing rage, countless death threats, calls for political violence, extermination, exile, etc., and calls to imprison/eliminate the entire political opposition, in favor of focusing on....I don't even fucking understand what he's focusing on.  He's a giant piece of shit, that's all that can be focused on.

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6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Ezra Klein is not helping.

Yeah, we're like 2 steps away from the inevitable "well after all the vitriol I received from the left after I did my free speech, I really do wonder if perhaps the right is a more welcoming place for me."

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2 minutes ago, royiv said:

It won’t be difficult for me to boycott the CW here in Houston.

Same for us in Dallas. I did notice the NBC station in Austin is Nexstar owned. (I think Sinclair owns WFAA/ABC here in Dallas.)

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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Same for us in Dallas. I did notice the NBC station in Austin is Nexstar owned. (I think Sinclair owns WFAA/ABC here in Dallas.)

WFAA and KVUE in Austin are both Tegna.

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

I was wondering what this fucking moron has to say about this. He probably still considers Jimmy a friend, so that combined with his previous stance on cancel culture should lead to a pretty vicious take down of the administration.

Right?

The only people willing to hire him are Prager and Ben Shapiro, which means he doesn't have much of a career and is fully dependent on podcast sponsors and right wing donors.

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