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Just now, Vertigo said:

If I am James Franklin and I wanted to be a real motherfucker, I would sign on to coach at the next university for minimum wage due to the offset language in the Penn State contract. Then I would go to my new school and say "Use my coaching salary as an NIL warchest". You would turn some shit around super quickly and hamstring Penn State in the process. 

Not sure if Franklin's contract explicitly carved it out, but with duty to mitigate there's typically a reasonableness standard.  He could go a couple million below market and it probably wouldn't be worth PSUs time to litigate, but something like what you describe would be a slam dunk.

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5 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

If I am James Franklin and I wanted to be a real motherfucker, I would sign on to coach at the next university for minimum wage due to the offset language in the Penn State contract. Then I would go to my new school and say "Use my coaching salary as an NIL warchest". You would turn some shit around super quickly and hamstring Penn State in the process. 

 

Just now, Not a cat said:

Not sure if Franklin's contract explicitly carved it out, but with duty to mitigate there's typically a reasonableness standard.  He could go a couple million below market and it probably wouldn't be worth PSUs time to litigate, but something like what you describe would be a slam dunk.

Yup, these contracts always include that language, except for desparate aggy contracts. It goes to the question "why settle"? Both sides want a clean break without the need to calculate or litigate whether a coach complied with these relatively vague standards i.e. "diligence" "appropriate" "good faith" and "reasonable salary." It's a situation where both sides know at the time the contract is entered into that it is vague and expectations are to negotiate a settlement if required.

 

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41 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

Man what a disaster at Wisconsin , I genuinely feel bad for them having no ties to the team. I don't think anyone saw the Fickell tenure going this way 

The Saban tree is far superior to the Meyer tree imho. 

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1 hour ago, Vertigo said:

If I am James Franklin and I wanted to be a real motherfucker, I would sign on to coach at the next university for minimum wage due to the offset language in the Penn State contract. Then I would go to my new school and say "Use my coaching salary as an NIL warchest". You would turn some shit around super quickly and hamstring Penn State in the process. 

Bingo and I think Franklin would be a really good hire for VaTech if they used this approach. 

5 minutes ago, Jimbob said:

The Saban tree is far superior to the Meyer tree imho. 

What do they look like if you exclude retreads?

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12 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Bingo and I think Franklin would be a really good hire for VaTech if they used this approach. 

What do they look like if you exclude retreads?

Idk, but Charlie and Mensa were Meyer tree so cut that fucker down, chop it up and burn it

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2 hours ago, satyanash said:

WOW. Wisconsin has officially given up.

 

How has Wiscky "given up" if they're gonna make 'a significant increase in financial commitment'?

Are we assuming Luke Fickell has forgotten how to coach? 

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The most beautiful part of Louisiana is actually the LSU campus. We took a tour when we went Marti Gras and it is actually beautiful. They have these oak trees that are incredible. They have tulip trees hanging (I believe that's what they are), and Azaleas.

I can hate the state and their sports, but I can't bring myself to hate their campus. 

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11 hours ago, BigHornedLurker said:

This part of the carousel is entirely too quiet except for the daily unforced buffoonery out of Baton Rouge. 

I feel like Auburn is too quiet to be disorganized this time around which is a damn shame, i was really hoping to see Deion make his way over there 

Penn State is similarly tight lipped 

Franklin appears to have a massive offer from VTech prepared, but isn't / hasn't signed - probably waiting for a bigger program 

Dude. 

Deion's health situation is not good.

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

Yeah, I'm actually worried for the guy. Like, he's in bad shape. 

Don't get surgery in Mississippi. 

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Posted
On 11/4/2025 at 7:28 AM, Alien Octopus said:

Well tell me about the last time you hired a coach, or is all your insight based on your room mate's buddies raising money to hire a coach? Which by the way with all the VC and Fracking money in Fort Worth how the hell is Tech so far ahead of TCU?
Neuheisel certainly knows more about football than you and the frog mafia.  That is why he is on TV and radio and talks about College Football 12 hours a day. Guess we will see how it all shakes out soon enough. You can give me hell when Patterson turns down a job.

You got me, those tv and radio people are never wrong and know what is going on in every program in the country.

Damn silly of me to bring actual facts like Gary's record to this discussion, but that is all irrelevant because I am not on the radio and tv.

As to how Tech is so far of TCU,  partly a billionaire stepping up at Tech which is to his credit and two big issues at TCU.

The first was an athletic director in way over his head?  The guy pissed off key boosters,  was too busy enjoying the benefits of what he basically was gifted by Del Conte, and TCU failed to focus their NIL efforts. The Frogs are just not getting over the split between NIL groups and making a concentrated effort. Unfortunately for us the poor Bezos brother went to TCU, the CEO and not the founder of Nike is a Frog, and the TCU alum who would have spent like Campbell died in 2020.  Timing is everything.

The other was the number of old money alums and boosters who got pissed when Gary was fired, really didn't want Dykes as coach, and then went ballistic when Briles was hired as OC to replace Riley.  Unfortunately much of that old money would have been happy to keep Gary around and ride "his" program into the ground because he deserved to instead of doing what was in the best interest of the TCU program.

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6 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

You got me, those tv and radio people are never wrong and know what is going on in every program in the country.

Damn silly of me to bring actual facts like Gary's record to this discussion, but that is all irrelevant because I am not on the radio and tv.

As to how Tech is so far of TCU,  partly a billionaire stepping up at Tech which is to his credit and two big issues at TCU.

The first was an athletic director in way over his head?  The guy pissed off key boosters,  was too busy enjoying the benefits of what he basically was gifted by Del Conte, and TCU failed to focus their NIL efforts. The Frogs are just not getting over the split between NIL groups and making a concentrated effort. Unfortunately for us the poor Bezos brother went to TCU, the CEO and not the founder of Nike is a Frog, and the TCU alum who would have spent like Campbell died in 2020.  Timing is everything.

The other was the number of old money alums and boosters who got pissed when Gary was fired, really didn't want Dykes as coach, and then went ballistic when Briles was hired as OC to replace Riley.  Unfortunately much of that old money would have been happy to keep Gary around and ride "his" program into the ground because he deserved to instead of doing what was in the best interest of the TCU program.

Third: SMU started eating your lunch for the first time in awhile. And aggy, Texas and Tech are all pissing money at recruits. 

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1 minute ago, ztejas said:

Third: SMU started eating your lunch for the first time in awhile. And aggy, Texas and Tech are all pissing money at recruits. 

True and I think that is some of the reason why some of the older money was pissed about Sonny.

He spent time working with the staff in 2017, took the SMU job, beat Gary in 2019 and 2021 and then won with "Gary's players" who had quit on Gary the year before.

There is still good talent to be found to play at TCU, but there are issues that need to be dealt with, just not sure if they have the people in place for the job.  I might not be on tv or radio, but I do know that the program is in a better place than 2021 and better than had Gary stayed because he was going to pull a Bowden or a Gundy.

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2 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

True and I think that is some of the reason why some of the older money was pissed about Sonny.

He spent time working with the staff in 2017, took the SMU job, beat Gary in 2019 and 2021 and then won with "Gary's players" who had quit on Gary the year before.

There is still good talent to be found to play at TCU, but there are issues that need to be dealt with, just not sure if they have the people in place for the job.  I might not be on tv or radio, but I do know that the program is in a better place than 2021 and better than had Gary stayed because he was going to pull a Bowden or a Gundy.

I said it in another thread but TCU is still a really good job. 

I think Dykes is kind of fucking y'all by being just good enough that it's tough to fire him. You need an upgrade at HC.

Posted
2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I said it in another thread but TCU is still a really good job. 

I think Dykes is kind of fucking y'all by being just good enough that it's tough to fire him. You need an upgrade at HC.

It is the awkward question of do you keep a coach who will get you 9-10 wins, but won't consistently put you in a position to compete for titles.

Sonny has brought about a number of good changes that were needed in the program and I think he is that guy who can lay out a solid blueprint, BUT he isn't the guy to put that blueprint into place, isn't a great evaluator of coaching talent, and I think he is still too old school in the thinking an HC makes all the decisions when the job to run a college program has gotten much harder, Harder than when his Dad coached, harder than what Gary faced when he helped rebuild the program. 

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