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46 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

That article literally points out how Republicans have a collective authoritarian boner yet somehow claims they're in love like Democrats of yore.  

Yeah, they're both falling in line and falling into some sort of twisted, perverted lust

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16 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

MAGA gonna have to cancel culture Home Depot

 

Countdown to videos of duffuses blowing up their Dewalt power tools with Tannerite in 3... 2... 1...

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MAGA:  "Look, we were gonna go and march on Home Depot to protest Langone's comments about our Dear Leader.  But there were too many Mexicans in the parking lot!"  

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Wait, what are we doing again?  Or I mean, not doing?  Or what are we pretending not to be doing?  I am legit confused.  I only have a few thoughts on the final solution to the maga question.  I'm not an idea guy, I was hoping that's where y'all came in.  I mean, they're stupid, vulnerable, easily fooled, and packing heat.  There has got to be a way to get them to think that one another is out to get them so they start murdering each other but I'm just not imaginative enough to figure out how to arrange it.  

It is something with radio waves or Jason Aldean records being played backwards?  If they're so convinced that false flag operations are occurring all around them, why not let that be the precursor?  

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14 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Wait, what are we doing again?  Or I mean, not doing?  Or what are we pretending not to be doing?  I am legit confused.  I only have a few thoughts on the final solution to the maga question.  I'm not an idea guy, I was hoping that's where y'all came in.  I mean, they're stupid, vulnerable, easily fooled, and packing heat.  There has got to be a way to get them to think that one another is out to get them so they start murdering each other but I'm just not imaginative enough to figure out how to arrange it.  

It is something with radio waves or Jason Aldean records being played backwards?  If they're so convinced that false flag operations are occurring all around them, why not let that be the precursor?  

I think we will know a lot more when/if dotard loses in November. 

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8 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

That article literally points out how Republicans have a collective authoritarian boner yet somehow claims they're in love like Democrats of yore.  

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here. There was a Bill Clinton quote about how Dems fall in love with candidates while Goppers fall in line.

Then, there was a clear statement that this axiom doesn't hold true anymore. In fact, it's the opposite today. Trumpers are enthralled with Trump to the point that they'd almost be happy to have him as a dictator as a key point of evidence that they've "fallen in love".

Is your comment a criticism? I really don't know what point you're making.

7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, they're both falling in line and falling into some sort of twisted, perverted lust

Both? Is this a "both sides" statement? We have one side comparing Trump to someone chosen by God, and the other saying, "That'll do, pig. You're holding the line." Believe me, there is no "lust" for Biden from the progressives.

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

I think what he's trying to say is that white Nordic immigration to the US is okay while brown Latin immigration is not. Admittedly, it's a garbled message that doesn't make sense unless you're a racist fuck.

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28 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

final solution to the maga question. 

this is (at least) your 2nd time using this in a week or so.

it's unnecessary.

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Deli guy: “Number 37, next please!”

#37: “yes, I’d like 290 pounds of the glazed head cheese there on the left.  Thank you.”  

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55 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Deli guy: “Number 37, next please!”

#37: “yes, I’d like 290 pounds of the glazed head cheese there on the left.  Thank you.”  

I want all the ham. /Patton Oswalt

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

I want all the ham. /Patton Oswalt

Csb/ really great comics hate when you quote their material back them.  But I ran into him once and just said, “hey man, big fan. You have the best deli jokes out there.”  And he smiled, shook my hand and said, “I get a lotta love for that deli bit and it wasn’t even written by a Jew, how crazy is that?”  I thought I was gonna piss myself with the kosher deli curveball.  Nice guy, not a big fan of Trump from what I gather.  

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9 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

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The Republicans have lost literally everything since 2016 and even 2022 against historical trends yet the media will you believe the people that have been voting against them in every election are now going to show up and vote for Trump?

 

M'kay.

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Caucuses are bad to fully judge how well a candidate does, and the IA weather this year made it a doubly poor indicator but it's horrible for Trump if he only can only get 50% of the vote against DeSantis, Haley and Vivek. While he's obviously not the incumbent, Trump isn't far from it in the eyes of the GOP.

If Biden and the Dems would have held an IA caucus this week, and Biden would have only received 50%, there would be Dem calls for him to drop out. 

If Trump can't pull 70% in NH, NV, SC and MI in the next month, I see it as a sign that there are too many Never Trumpers out there. Sure some would come around to vote against Biden but not all. Trump needs Haley and DeSantis to drop out ASAP to hide this weakness. Biden needs them both to stay in.

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Yeah it’s never cold in Iowa in January.   Those folks didn’t know how to handle it. 
 

I’d believe complacency until the general before I’d believe weather was a factor. Roads weren’t impassable. 

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The "are you better off than you were four years ago" is REALLY not a place they want to go. On his way out the door, the economy was in the trash, we were in the middle of a pandemic, he had just been impeached again, and we were cleaning up the Capitol from his attack there. 

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4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Yeah it’s never cold in Iowa in January.   Those folks didn’t know how to handle it. 
 

I’d believe complacency until the general before I’d believe weather was a factor. Roads weren’t impassable. 

Maybe the fact that the outcome was predetermined had something to do with the low turnout. Those that did show up probably made for a sample size large enough to accurately represent the electorate overall. 

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From The Ledge I toss out the comment that while the media over-reacts with respect to Iowa, I rather wish they'd pipe down a bit. Lotta months left and the GOP with their backs against the wall four years ago did some pretty nasty shit, some of which investigators never figured out the identities of the culprits involved or they managed to skate on technicalities.  Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Elon, Stephen Miller, and all the $$ names that have managed to fly under the radar are not completely ignorant as to what the numbers show. The question is, to what lengths are they willing to go and I am not sure I want to know the answer to that.

Aside from participating (in the real world) I'm sitting on The Ledge for the duration. The warnings that were deemed as 'crying wolf' ended up splashing across our screens in that January and we're still in the woods as far as I'm concerned. Voters can defeat the autocratic wannabes, but it's going to take courage, conviction, some brains, and a great deal of love.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/01/trump-wants-revengeand-so-does-his-base/677147/

 

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Last night’s Iowa caucus results confirm that Donald Trump is almost certainly headed for the GOP presidential nomination. So much for the hopes of establishment Republicans (the handful who remain, anyway) and other conservatives that voters would refuse to join Trump’s personal crusade for vengeance against the American system of government.

Such hopes were always the thinnest of reeds: The Republican base actively embraces Trump’s grievances; it emulates his pettiness; it supports his childlike inability to accept responsibility. These voters are not sighing in resignation and voting for the lesser of two or three or four evils. They are getting what they want—because they, too, are set on revenge.

 

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These voters are not settling a political score. Rather, they want to get even with other Americans, their own neighbors, for a simmering (and likely unexpected) humiliation that many of them seem to have felt ever since swearing loyalty to Trump.

A lot of people, especially in the media, have a hard time accepting this simple truth. Millions of Americans, stung by the electoral rebukes of their fellow citizens, have become so resentful and detached from reality that they have plunged into a moral void, a vortex that disintegrates questions of politics or policies and replaces them with heroic fantasies of redeeming a supposedly fallen nation.

 

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Poll numbers on this issue are dispiriting. A third of Republicans—and four in 10 voters who have a favorable view of Trump—agree with the statement that “true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country.” But violence against whom? We are not under foreign occupation. When people talk about “resorting to violence” they are, by default, talking about violence against their fellow citizens, some of whom have already been threatened merely for working in their communities as election volunteers.

 

 

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But perhaps such views are merely overheated samplings from super-red MAGA pockets, and the heartland voters are more sensible. No such luck. In Iowa, 19 percent of 502 likely GOP caucus attendees said Trump’s statement that he might have “no choice” but to lock up his political opponents made them more inclined to vote for him. One out of five might not seem like a lot, but another 43 percent said they didn’t care one way or another. Trump’s ranting about “terminating” parts of the Constitution made only 14 percent more likely to vote for him, but again, 36 percent didn’t care. What a triumph: Only one in eight Iowa GOP caucus voters supports trashing the Constitution.

The words of actual Trump supporters are even more unnerving than looking at raw poll numbers. My friend, the writer David French, lives deep in MAGA country. “You can go to social gatherings here in the South,” he wrotelast week, and hear people whisper to friends, “Don’t talk about politics in front of Dad. He’s out of control.” David is also a lawyer, and he notes:

I know that rage and conspiracies aren’t unique to the right. During my litigation career, I frequently faced off against the worst excesses of the radical left. But never before have I seen extremism penetrate a vast American community so deeply, so completely and so comprehensively.

Meanwhile, much farther north, my colleague McKay Coppins attended a Trump rally in Iowa earlier this month, where he spoke with a nice lady named Kris, “a 71-year-old retired nurse in orthopedic sneakers” who watches Trump rallies on Rumble or FrankSpeech (a platform launched by the MyPillow founder, Mike Lindell) and believes that the 2020 election was “most definitely” stolen.

“You think Trump should still be president?” I asked.

“By all means,” she said. “And I think behind the scenes he maybe is doing a little more than what we know about.”

“What do you mean?”

“Military-wise,” she said. “The military is supposed to be for the people, against tyrannical governments,” she went on to explain. “I hope he’s guiding the military to be able to step in and do what they need to do. Because right now, I’d say government’s very tyrannical.” If the Democrats try to steal the election again in 2024, she told me, the Trump-sympathetic elements of the military might need to seize control.

What can turn an ordinary person—a father, the pleasant older lady who lives down the street—into the family powder keg, or even a deluded seditionist who hopes the U.S. military will seize control of the country?

The usual answer, when Trump ran the first time, was that these were “forgotten” voters, people “left behind” by globalization and a leftist political culture, who were hurling out a giant primal yawp of opposition. These were never empirically sustainable explanations, but empathetic reporters and deeply concerned politicians went on listening tours to diners and gas stations anyway. When ordinary Americans would say shocking, indecent, and un-American things, their flummoxed interlocutors remained steadfast in the belief that more listening and more empathetic nodding would put things right in a few years.

And yet, nothing worked. Trump and his right-wing media courtiers—who tend to the anger of the older, white middle class the way florists lovingly raise orchids—fed the GOP base a continual stream of rage, especially as Trump started to pile up electoral defeats. These voters now want to get even with their fellow citizens not for what’s been done to Trump but for what they feel has been done to them.They were certain that 2016 would finally bring them the recognition and respect they craved. Instead, Trump set them up for a steady diet of ego-bruising rebukes from other voters.

Much like Trump himself, these voters are unable to accept what’s happened over the past several years. Trump, in so many ways, quickly made fools of them; his various inanities, failures, and possible crimes sent them scrambling for ever more bizarre rationalizations, defenses of the indefensible that separated them from family and friends. If in 2016 they suspected, rightly or wrongly, that many Americans looked down on them for any number of reasons, they now know with certainty that millions of people look down on them—not for who they are but for what they’ve supported so vocally.

Strings of losses, including the 2018 Democratic-wave election, Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory, and the “red wave” that never happened in 2022, forced MAGA voters to construct an alternate reality in which the patriotic, hardworking majority has been repeatedly thwarted by schemes so complicated that SPECTRE would have struggled to execute them. Worse, a culture (especially in the media) that for a time was desperate to understand their views now either ignores them or treats them as dangerous curiosities.

The only good thing that came out of Iowa last night is that we are now spared further public performances from Vivek Ramaswamy. And it is a hopeful sign that nearly half of the caucus-goers chose someone besides Trump. But we are fooling ourselves if we think that the coming year will be just another peaceful competition between two political parties. Trump wants payback; so do millions of voters who have no one to blame for their sense of humiliation but themselves.

 

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The "are you better off than you were four years ago" is REALLY not a place they want to go. On his way out the door, the economy was in the trash, we were in the middle of a pandemic, he had just been impeached again, and we were cleaning up the Capitol from his attack there. 

Ahem, the truth doesn’t matter anymore. Antifa out front shoulda toldja.
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7 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/01/trump-wants-revengeand-so-does-his-base/677147/

 

 

 

 

 

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But perhaps such views are merely overheated samplings from super-red MAGA pockets, and the heartland voters are more sensible. No such luck. In Iowa, 19 percent of 502 likely GOP caucus attendees said Trump’s statement that he might have “no choice” but to lock up his political opponents made them more inclined to vote for him. One out of five might not seem like a lot, but another 43 percent said they didn’t care one way or another. Trump’s ranting about “terminating” parts of the Constitution made only 14 percent more likely to vote for him, but again, 36 percent didn’t care. What a triumph: Only one in eight Iowa GOP caucus voters supports trashing the Constitution.

The words of actual Trump supporters are even more unnerving than looking at raw poll numbers. My friend, the writer David French, lives deep in MAGA country. “You can go to social gatherings here in the South,” he wrotelast week, and hear people whisper to friends, “Don’t talk about politics in front of Dad. He’s out of control.” David is also a lawyer, and he notes:

I know that rage and conspiracies aren’t unique to the right. During my litigation career, I frequently faced off against the worst excesses of the radical left. But never before have I seen extremism penetrate a vast American community so deeply, so completely and so comprehensively.

Meanwhile, much farther north, my colleague McKay Coppins attended a Trump rally in Iowa earlier this month, where he spoke with a nice lady named Kris, “a 71-year-old retired nurse in orthopedic sneakers” who watches Trump rallies on Rumble or FrankSpeech (a platform launched by the MyPillow founder, Mike Lindell) and believes that the 2020 election was “most definitely” stolen.

“You think Trump should still be president?” I asked.

“By all means,” she said. “And I think behind the scenes he maybe is doing a little more than what we know about.”

“What do you mean?”

“Military-wise,” she said. “The military is supposed to be for the people, against tyrannical governments,” she went on to explain. “I hope he’s guiding the military to be able to step in and do what they need to do. Because right now, I’d say government’s very tyrannical.” If the Democrats try to steal the election again in 2024, she told me, the Trump-sympathetic elements of the military might need to seize control.

What can turn an ordinary person—a father, the pleasant older lady who lives down the street—into the family powder keg, or even a deluded seditionist who hopes the U.S. military will seize control of the country?

The usual answer, when Trump ran the first time, was that these were “forgotten” voters, people “left behind” by globalization and a leftist political culture, who were hurling out a giant primal yawp of opposition. These were never empirically sustainable explanations, but empathetic reporters and deeply concerned politicians went on listening tours to diners and gas stations anyway. When ordinary Americans would say shocking, indecent, and un-American things, their flummoxed interlocutors remained steadfast in the belief that more listening and more empathetic nodding would put things right in a few years.

And yet, nothing worked. Trump and his right-wing media courtiers—who tend to the anger of the older, white middle class the way florists lovingly raise orchids—fed the GOP base a continual stream of rage, especially as Trump started to pile up electoral defeats. These voters now want to get even with their fellow citizens not for what’s been done to Trump but for what they feel has been done to them.They were certain that 2016 would finally bring them the recognition and respect they craved. Instead, Trump set them up for a steady diet of ego-bruising rebukes from other voters.

Much like Trump himself, these voters are unable to accept what’s happened over the past several years. Trump, in so many ways, quickly made fools of them; his various inanities, failures, and possible crimes sent them scrambling for ever more bizarre rationalizations, defenses of the indefensible that separated them from family and friends. If in 2016 they suspected, rightly or wrongly, that many Americans looked down on them for any number of reasons, they now know with certainty that millions of people look down on them—not for who they are but for what they’ve supported so vocally.

Strings of losses, including the 2018 Democratic-wave election, Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory, and the “red wave” that never happened in 2022, forced MAGA voters to construct an alternate reality in which the patriotic, hardworking majority has been repeatedly thwarted by schemes so complicated that SPECTRE would have struggled to execute them. Worse, a culture (especially in the media) that for a time was desperate to understand their views now either ignores them or treats them as dangerous curiosities.

The only good thing that came out of Iowa last night is that we are now spared further public performances from Vivek Ramaswamy. And it is a hopeful sign that nearly half of the caucus-goers chose someone besides Trump. But we are fooling ourselves if we think that the coming year will be just another peaceful competition between two political parties. Trump wants payback; so do millions of voters who have no one to blame for their sense of humiliation but themselves.

 

And y'all know the answer.

They will resort to violence.  And we will have to shoot them.  That's what happens when traitors engage in a violent insurrection against the Republic.  We shot them in 1861-65.  We can, and must, do so again if they take up arms against the Republic.  Fuck around?  Then find out.

I'm sorry that they're stupid, deluded, and/or insane.  Tough shit.  Attack my country, you should fucking die.

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

The "are you better off than you were four years ago" is REALLY not a place they want to go. On his way out the door, the economy was in the trash, we were in the middle of a pandemic, he had just been impeached again, and we were cleaning up the Capitol from his attack there. 

If you're a 40+ homeowner who makes more than the average income, it's almost impossible that you're not better off today than you were in 2020 (pandemic) or even 2019 (pre-pandemic.)

Or if you're worse off today, you've either had bad luck or made some bad decisions. 

I bet Ted Cruz is worth several million more today than he was in 2019. If not much more. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, YGIFS said:

Is she holding a fucking cowbell?

That would be awesome, but it appears that she's resting her hand on the back of a 1965 era auditorium chair.



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