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myslinski is a fine take.  he’s an overachieving, underestimated, smart, mean player who will be a 6’3” 290# bully in three years and anchor the OL.  he’s not one to worry about. 

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Wheaton's first interview in a while, with Spiegleman 

"Camar Wheaton has found a way to remain out of the spotlight again this offseason.
The nation's top-ranked running back, Wheaton is brings an aura of mystery unlike any prospect in the 2021 class. He's the top-rated player in Texas, top-rated player at his position and No. 7 overall prospect in America, yet his recruitment remains a mystery with only shreds of intel to sift through.

At this stage in the process, the five-star running back from Garland (Texas) Lakeview Centennial is in communication with about six teams, including Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M and SMU. Wheaton indicated he is speaking with coaches from all of those schools pretty regularly, though sources have told Rivals that the Longhorns and Sooners are making the hardest pushes at this stage in the process.

Wheaton does not have a precise timeline in place to unveil his commitment, but hinted that he is getting closer and closer toward a decision, which could come at any point, including even the near future.

"I'm coming closer to decisions," Wheaton told Rivals.

Wheaton does not give much away when discussing individual teams or coaches. He offered the following responses on the six teams he mentioned recruiting him hardest at this point in the calendar.
On Oklahoma: "They're talking to me and making sure I'm working out, I'm healthy and they've been checking on my friend (who recently passed away)." ... Wheaton also mentioned his visit to Norman before the Dead Period was important since he's been unable to visit other college campuses since March.
On Texas: "It's basically the same. We weren't expecting that our last visit (to Texas) was gonna be the last college visit. It became more appealing. I've been in touch with them weekly and they're trying to see where I'm at in the process." ... Wheaton was coming off his weekly Zoom call with the Texas coaches prior to this interview.
On SMU: "They keep texting me and telling me that me (and Preston Stone) are enough to change the program around."
On LSU: "They're really just checking on me and also seeing where I was in the process. They let me be in the driver's seat."
On Alabama: "They've been checking in on me, seeing where I was with the process."
On Texas A&M: "They want me to make one more visit out there to see."

While the usually tight-lipped Wheaton is not one for giving away too much information regardless his top schools or where he's at with his recruitment, did offer the following criteria as the biggest X-factors in sorting through his top schools.
"The coaches, my teammates and how my family feels about the school," Wheaton outlined.
He also added that his family likes all of the schools he's giving strong consideration to.
As Wheaton moves closer and closer toward a decision, he is still awaiting word on whether or not he'll be able to take his official visits. The five-star indicated that he'd prefer to take his official visits in the fall, but is open to giving a commitment without them.
"I want to see them on my visits, but it could be any day," he said.
MORE ON WHEATON

The nation's No. 1-ranked back has devoted the offseason to sharpening his footwork, his vision out of the backfield and improving as a pass-catcher. He's been working out regularly throughout the offseason at and away from Lakeview Centennial and he's been impressed by his progress leading into his senior year.
"Really, I've been focusing on the season and training, getting back in condition and everything," Wheaton detailed. "I just find a couple of friends and go run routes, run around the track ... anything to keep up in-shape ... I've been improving a lot. I just want people to see it next year. I've been working on my vision, my vision plays and my footwork is way faster now."
Wheaton was encouraged by recent news that larger schools in the Lone Star State will have a full 2020 football season beginning at the end of September.
"I'm ready," he said. "Everybody will be showing out. We've been all leading up to this point. I can't wait for it!""

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56 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Now, do you feel better or do I need to write another sentence with the word filthy in it?

You're good on filthy.  But I'm going need a longer post to feel better.  A Randolph Duke like 3000+ word post will work 😃

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2 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

You're good on filthy.  But I'm going need a longer post to feel better.  A Randolph Duke like 3000+ word post will work 😃

Negged for even tacitly comparing me to Randolph Duke, you son of a bitch.

 

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247 / Steve Wiltfong / Relationships important in recruitment of 5-star Camar Wheaton

 

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Relationships important in recruitment of 5-star Camar Wheaton
STEVE WILTFONG

 

Those close to Garland (Texas) Lakeview Centennial five-star running back Camar Wheaton say his recruitment is still a toss up. The No. 2 running back in the 247Sports Composite remains in touch with several programs.

“I’d say Texas, Alabama, LSU and Oklahoma,” Lakeview Centennial head coach Kendall Miller said. Texas A&M and SMU are also involved for the 5-foot-11, 190-pound Wheaton.

“I think for him it’s what’s going to be the best fit for him that feels like home,” Miller explained. “Every place has bells and whistles, what’s going to be the biggest fit for him. I think identifying with the coaching staff is something that’s always been important with him and relationships with the coaches.”

Wheaton got a chance to visit LSU, Oklahoma, SMU and Texas again before the Covid-19 pandemic hit sending us into a recruiting dead period. He’d like to take official visits before deciding.

With that, Wheaton remains focused on his senior season and closing his prep career strong.

“He’s a guy that’s going to tote the mail for us no doubt,” Miller said. “One of the biggest developments he’s had, he’s always been a mature kid but he’s older and more established and knowing what’s expected of him and being able to carry that on his shoulders.”

One of the fastest players regardless of position in the class, Wheaton has rushed for 3,128 yards and 40 touchdowns over his first three varsity seasons.

“He has the ability on any carry to take it to the house,” Miller said. “That’s something that separates him from other running backs. If he gets a seam and breaks through he’s probably not going to get caught. You see that with receivers but not as much with running backs and that’s without a doubt his best attribute.”

 

 

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1 hour ago, satyanash said:

(Mike Roach) The Stampede: How can Texas finish the 2021 class?

 

Our defensive class is going to be really damn good. Could be elite if we can land Mukuba. Offensively, not so much. This is like a bizarro OU class, excluding Milroe.

1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

This class is going to be the lowest rated class since the transition.  A shame.  Better hope the evals are spot on for the most part.

Yeah, We really needed a chance to win on the field to bring this class rating up.  Herman just can’t help making things unnecessarily difficult, on or off the field. He seems like a guy who needs a high level of stress to perform and then falls off when things get comfortable. 

Still though, were probably headed for  about 7th-9th overall, so it won’t be a bad class. That’s still quite a bit better than anything Charlie or Mack brought in in the last ten years, so the overall talent level in the program will still be pretty high. 

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

No surprise there. But there’s more than enough talent on campus to win and win big. He just has to coach. If he wins big this year, he’ll be pulling in sick talent for 2022. If he steps in his dick again, he’ll be in his way out. Once you settle in on that, and know he’ll be leaving the cupboard pretty well stocked, the uncertainty becomes easier to stomach. 
 

our defensive line should be fucking filthy this year. I mean filthy, and 2 deep. We lost a stud WR, but there should be more overall talent at WR than we had on the field at times last season. Eagles, Smith, Whittington and Washington are fiiiilthy. And that’s before we see what we get from Black, Moore, and whoever else. RB is fucking filthy. The only question mark is the oline, honestly. And it’s not if they’ll be deplorable it’s just can they take the next step. 
 

Unless Yurich is a complete fucking fraud and is Tim Beck level shitty, we should be in plenty good shape. 
 

Now, do you feel better or do I need to write another sentence with the word filthy in it?

This roster is loaded. Easily a top 5 talented roster in the country.  There’s no excuses this year. Gundy’s pretty much confirmed that Yurcich ran the O and called plays at OSU, so that’s a big positive, but he’s still only ever been an OC under great offensive HCs, so he’s still a bit of an unknown. At least we know from this year that not all OCs thrive under Gundy. 
 

On defense, Ash running a simple system is great news. We have the talent on D. Just let them play.  This is the most talented roster we’ve had since 09, and it’s not even close. No excuses left. Time to put it all together (and actually have a season. Fucking Covid.). 

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15 minutes ago, Ok. Caol Hook Em! said:

I know it’s probably been discussed already, but wasn’t or isn’t Camar a risk? I remember someone saying he’s Zach Evans 2.0 as far as talent and headcasery goes. 

As far as being a diva sketchy attention seeking shithead? I don't think so. More of a combination of him being quiet, having some personality quirks, not telling anyone where he's leaning, and perhaps having some forces pushing him towards SMU

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21 minutes ago, Ok. Caol Hook Em! said:

I know it’s probably been discussed already, but wasn’t or isn’t Camar a risk? I remember someone saying he’s Zach Evans 2.0 as far as talent and headcasery goes. 

He's nothing like Zach Evans. If Zach Evans were a runaway locomotive of lunacy and amoral shitbaggery, Camar Wheaton is a pink 1994 Chrysler LeBaron convertible. 

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28 minutes ago, Ok. Caol Hook Em! said:

I know it’s probably been discussed already, but wasn’t or isn’t Camar a risk? I remember someone saying he’s Zach Evans 2.0 as far as talent and headcasery goes. 

@closetojumping gave a few cryptic warnings about Wheaton's recruitment a while back. But nothing close to the Evans craziness.

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35 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

This is like a bizarro OU class, excluding Milroe.

I think Conner is outstanding and if Alexis joins the class he is as well.

Conner's fall on 247 is absurd, esp considering his fall vs. Foster's rise and yes I am aware of Foster's upside and potential but if you watch those guys play Conner is a far better football player. Outside of that, the offensive class is going to lean heavily on evals. Very. Heavily. Davis, Cain, Brooks, Helm. Any other take, outside of the Camar/LJ Johnson will lean on eval. 

The interesting thing is that when I look at the offensive players in the top 50 in Texas there's very few guys outside of JoJo and Tommy Brockermeyer that make me feel like "oh man, Texas missed on that one."  I guess Quay would qualify but the idea that you could keep his head straight and stay that way for 3 years seems really unlikely. Outside of that it's a collection of guys I feel meh or worse about (like Byrd, Fatheree, Sturdivant, Banks). a shit ton of QBs when we already have Milroe and only one of those QBs that gives me pause, Kyron Drones. 

 

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4 minutes ago, golfclap said:

I think Conner is outstanding and if Alexis joins the class he is as well.

Conner's fall on 247 is absurd, esp considering his fall vs. Foster's rise and yes I am aware of Foster's upside and potential but if you watch those guys play Conner is a far better football player. Outside of that, the offensive class is going to lean heavily on evals. Very. Heavily. Davis, Cain, Brooks, Helm. Any other take, outside of the Camar/LJ Johnson will lean on eval. 

The interesting thing is that when I look at the offensive players in the top 50 in Texas there's very few guys outside of JoJo and Tommy Brockermeyer that make me feel like "oh man, Texas missed on that one."  I guess Quay would qualify but the idea that you could keep his head straight and stay that way for 3 years seems really unlikely. Outside of that it's a collection of guys I feel meh or worse about (like Byrd, Fatheree, Sturdivant, Banks). a shit ton of QBs when we already have Milroe and only one of those QBs that gives me pause, Kyron Drones. 

 

The good news here is that if there's one thing Herman and crew have done exceptionally well, it's evaluation. They can absolutely evaluate, or at least they have up until now. They'd have to completely 180 to monumentally fail at evaluating this class, and that seems unlikely. It would be akin to Herman waking up and suddenly not being an arrogant prick. 

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6 minutes ago, golfclap said:

I think Conner is outstanding and if Alexis joins the class he is as well.

Conner's fall on 247 is absurd, esp considering his fall vs. Foster's rise and yes I am aware of Foster's upside and potential but if you watch those guys play Conner is a far better football player. Outside of that, the offensive class is going to lean heavily on evals. Very. Heavily. Davis, Cain, Brooks, Helm. Any other take, outside of the Camar/LJ Johnson will lean on eval. 

The interesting thing is that when I look at the offensive players in the top 50 in Texas there's very few guys outside of JoJo and Tommy Brockermeyer that make me feel like "oh man, Texas missed on that one."  I guess Quay would qualify but the idea that you could keep his head straight and stay that way for 3 years seems really unlikely. Outside of that it's a collection of guys I feel meh or worse about (like Byrd, Fatheree, Sturdivant, Banks). a shit ton of QBs when we already have Milroe and only one of those QBs that gives me pause, Kyron Drones. 

 

We've talked about if before but it's wild that Texas of all states could have a WR class that's just meh. Even the top 5 of the position starts getting wobbly after Earle and Davis.

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3 hours ago, satyanash said:

If Texas loses out on Wheaton and Johnson, I expect they will close up shop.

 

3 hours ago, satyanash said:

If Texas lands Alexis, the staff can likely choose to take one less prospect at the position.

 

3 hours ago, satyanash said:

but I don’t expect it to be a large position group.

 

3 hours ago, satyanash said:

This could also be a position where Texas chooses to save room in order to add other parts to the recruiting class.

 

3 hours ago, satyanash said:

Shemar Turner is the guy I see them holding a spot for, and if they could land Albert Regis, that would probably round out the group.

 

3 hours ago, satyanash said:

I don’t see Texas reaching just to fill a number,

 

3 hours ago, satyanash said:

If Texas misses on Mukuba they could take a shot at secondary targets like Devin Lemear, but Chris Ash could also choose to bank that number for next year.

 

 

Does Roach think that Texas is going to close out 2021 with like 16-18 person class? Fucking shit. I guess it makes sense, given that they haven't committed yet, it's the only way he can project another commitment at any position. 

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1 minute ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Ok.  Sitting here with popcorn and a soda, waiting for the next commitment.  Hurry up.  I ain’t got all day!

2:30 Denver time, bucko

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36 minutes ago, golfclap said:

I think Conner is outstanding and if Alexis joins the class he is as well.

Conner's fall on 247 is absurd, esp considering his fall vs. Foster's rise and yes I am aware of Foster's upside and potential but if you watch those guys play Conner is a far better football player. 

Have said it several times, Conner and Fatheree's rankings should be flipped.  

What's funny is Kelvin Banks got a huge ratings boost because of that Houston camp and Conner was just as good at it and dropped.

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34 minutes ago, golfclap said:

Does Roach think that Texas is going to close out 2021 with like 16-18 person class? Fucking shit. I guess it makes sense, given that they haven't committed yet, it's the only way he can project another commitment at any position. 

Class of 25

WR: 2 more (J.Alexis and K.Jackson)

TE: 1 more (G.Helm)

OL: 4 more (no clue)

SDE: 1 more (S.Turner/A.Walker)

DT: 1 more (A.Regis/I.Iwunnah)

LB: 1 more (T.Cooks)

S: 1 more (A.Mukuba)

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22 minutes ago, Scholz said:

Class of 25

WR: 2 more (J.Alexis and K.Jackson)

TE: 1 more (G.Helm)

OL: 4 more (no clue)

SDE: 1 more (S.Turner/A.Walker)

DT: 1 more (A.Regis/I.Iwunnah)

LB: 1 more (T.Cooks)

S: 1 more (A.Mukuba)

I could see us adding Crowdus at WR as well as those two

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24 minutes ago, Scholz said:

Class of 25

WR: 2 more (J.Alexis and K.Jackson)

TE: 1 more (G.Helm)

OL: 4 more (no clue)

SDE: 1 more (S.Turner/A.Walker)

DT: 1 more (A.Regis/I.Iwunnah)

LB: 1 more (T.Cooks)

S: 1 more (A.Mukuba)

+1 WR

-1 OL

Still 25.

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3 minutes ago, ChampionshipLevelPiss said:

I assume the staff will leave a spot open for Earle as well in the event of a miracle flip

The Waddle approach. That's a bold strategy.

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3 hours ago, westexhorn said:

Could you do one more sentence with the word filthy?

I hear South Austin’s mom is filthy.  

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14 minutes ago, ChampionshipLevelPiss said:

I assume the staff will leave a spot open for Earle as well in the event of a miracle flip

Yes. It is the spot currently occupied by someone whose last name rhymes with Sockamyer.

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41 minutes ago, Scholz said:

SDE: 1 more (S.Turner/A.Walker)

DT: 1 more (A.Regis/I.Iwunnah)

I think you look at the 2021 depth chart and see the possibility of only 1 of Sweat/Coburn/Ojomo on the roster, which is assuming that Coburn and Sweat both leave after kicking ass. If that's the case the depth at DT revolves around Ojomo staying for a 4th and hopefully 5th year (so that he can celebrate his 13th birthday with the team). Sawyer Goram-Welch, and Broughton/Collins. I assume with the limited number of offers at DT that the staff feels like they have at least one of the DE recruits that they like inside as a flex player (like Collins) and a good feeling about Regis/Iwunnah. I still think the staff should consider taking a longer look at Jonathon Jones if he would be the kind of guy to stick for 4/5 years. Losing Mpagi hurts and likely puts Sanders directly on the depth chart/field as a TR FR. Would be nice to take a guy with enormous upside (Jones) and stash and physically develop him. Guys that can get after the QB are too valuable to let them get away. 

I think WR could end up being Cain, Alexis, Jackson, and 2 others. Though Dixon and Harrison both going to WR may reduce that need, esp if they counter any possible attrition at the spot. 

I could see the OL number only being 3. The OT depth chart is deep but the interior could use some numbers and adding 2 along with Conner would be good. 

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1 hour ago, golfclap said:

I think Conner is outstanding and if Alexis joins the class he is as well.

Conner's fall on 247 is absurd, esp considering his fall vs. Foster's rise and yes I am aware of Foster's upside and potential but if you watch those guys play Conner is a far better football player. Outside of that, the offensive class is going to lean heavily on evals. Very. Heavily. Davis, Cain, Brooks, Helm. Any other take, outside of the Camar/LJ Johnson will lean on eval. 

The interesting thing is that when I look at the offensive players in the top 50 in Texas there's very few guys outside of JoJo and Tommy Brockermeyer that make me feel like "oh man, Texas missed on that one."  I guess Quay would qualify but the idea that you could keep his head straight and stay that way for 3 years seems really unlikely. Outside of that it's a collection of guys I feel meh or worse about (like Byrd, Fatheree, Sturdivant, Banks). a shit ton of QBs when we already have Milroe and only one of those QBs that gives me pause, Kyron Drones. 

 

Totally agree on those evaluations, and the offensive talent in the state, but overall it will be around a top 5 defensive class and probably closer to a 15th - 20th overall offensive class, i.e. a bizarro OU class. I think the staff can make some good overall offensive evaluations and get solid offensive talent out of this, but it's a lower level of talent/athlete than we've been pulling in previously. It will be a blip on the radar if we can win on the field this season.  

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I would be somewhat surprised if Texas doesn’t add an OL transfer. You can find decent to good interior OL prospects on the transfer market. 
 

 

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8 minutes ago, golfclap said:

I think you look at the 2021 depth chart and see the possibility of only 1 of Sweat/Coburn/Ojomo on the roster, which is assuming that Coburn and Sweat both leave after kicking ass. If that's the case the depth at DT revolves around Ojomo staying for a 4th and hopefully 5th year (so that he can celebrate his 13th birthday with the team). Sawyer Goram-Welch, and Broughton/Collins. I assume with the limited number of offers at DT that the staff feels like they have at least one of the DE recruits that they like inside as a flex player (like Collins) and a good feeling about Regis/Iwunnah. I still think the staff should consider taking a longer look at Jonathon Jones if he would be the kind of guy to stick for 4/5 years. Losing Mpagi hurts and likely puts Sanders directly on the depth chart/field as a TR FR. Would be nice to take a guy with enormous upside (Jones) and stash and physically develop him. Guys that can get after the QB are too valuable to let them get away. 

I think WR could end up being Cain, Alexis, Jackson, and 2 others. Though Dixon and Harrison both going to WR may reduce that need, esp if they counter any possible attrition at the spot. 

I could see the OL number only being 3. The OT depth chart is deep but the interior could use some numbers and adding 2 along with Conner would be good. 

Sweat can't leave for NFL until after 2021, right? 

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3 minutes ago, TommyGufano said:

Sweat can't leave for NFL until after 2021, right? 

Right. I guess I meant 2022 in terms of how the 2-deep shakes out as the 2021 guys get added to it. thanks for helping me clarify. 

 

 

My brain is a terrifying place. 

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32 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

I would say it’s very likely one of Collins or Broughton ends up inside. 

I bet we see them play inside but I hope we keep them on the edge.  Both those guys are massive and can run.  They would be huge mismatches for any tackle.  

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3 hours ago, Fud said:

As far as being a diva sketchy attention seeking shithead? I don't think so. More of a combination of him being quiet, having some personality quirks, not telling anyone where he's leaning, and perhaps having some forces pushing him towards SMU

Wheaton is far from an attention whore. 

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re Wheaton, I think the early implication was an Uncle was involved. But haven't anything since then about that. He's the anti-ZachEvans. Wheaton doesn't post much if any on social media and doesn't give interviews. Sounds like he just wants to do his shit privately and then announce. Can't get mo realer than that.

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4 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

re Wheaton, I think the early implication was an Uncle was involved. But haven't anything since then about that. He's the anti-ZachEvans. Wheaton doesn't post much if any on social media and doesn't give interviews. Sounds like he just wants to do his shit privately and then announce. Can't get mo realer than that.

If he's the opposite of Evans, we should def have that one poster send him a terrible Superman edit

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5 hours ago, futureman said:

myslinski is a fine take.  he’s an overachieving, underestimated, smart, mean player who will be a 6’3” 290# bully in three years and anchor the OL.  he’s not one to worry about. 

You could take Myslinski and still take Ezra Oyetade. Oyetade is a guy they should have offered yesterday.

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40 minutes ago, victory88 said:

I bet we see them play inside but I hope we keep them on the edge.  Both those guys are massive and can run.  They would be huge mismatches for any tackle.  

Idk about this. Broughton struggles on the edge, because he's not a real threat to win around the edge. He's already 290 and will get bigger, so he likely needs to spend most of his time on the inside. Collins is an absolute freak and may be able to stay as a threat on the outside. There's a reason most teams dont use 300 lb guys as their DEs on a 4 man line.  You need players who can threaten the edge better.  We'll sacrifice too much pass rush if we use both those guys on the outside. 

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2 minutes ago, OnAComputer said:

You could take Myslinski and still take Ezra Oyetade. Oyetade is a guy they should have offered yesterday.

That's just like, your (and everyone else's) opinion, man

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2 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Idk about this. Broughton struggles on the edge, because he's not a real threat to win around the edge. He's already 290 and will get bigger, so he likely needs to spend most of his time on the inside. Collins is an absolute freak and may be able to stay as a threat on the outside. There's a reason most teams dont use 300 lb guys as their DEs on a 4 man line.  You need players who can threaten the edge better.  We'll sacrifice too much pass rush if we use both those guys on the outside. 

Yep I agree with this.. VB could play some at DE this season but I'd expect him to move inside when he competes for real playing time.  I feel that Collins needs to stay at DE no matter if he gets up to 325 lbs.

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17 minutes ago, OnAComputer said:

You could take Myslinski and still take Ezra Oyetade. Oyetade is a guy they should have offered yesterday.

Whats the deal with Oyetade's off list.  All of the 9.95'ers seem to think he should be a priority - but there don't seem to be many P5 schools offering.

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2 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Whats the deal with Oyetade's off list.  All of the 9.95'ers seem to think he should be a priority - but there don't seem to be many P5 schools offering.

There are some solid mid-tier ACC/Pac 12/SEC offers, but no offers from the Big XII at all is a little odd 

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1 hour ago, texasstrong12 said:

I would say it’s very likely one of Collins or Broughton ends up inside. 

I think Broughton will play inside for sure, I just don't have high expectations for him. I think Collins is an absolute freak and will play both outside and inside depending on package/down and distance/etc ...  even at his size, his ability to close on the QB is unreal. 

 

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3 hours ago, Scholz said:

Class of 25

WR: 2 more (J.Alexis and K.Jackson)

TE: 1 more (G.Helm)

OL: 4 more (no clue)

SDE: 1 more (S.Turner/A.Walker)

DT: 1 more (A.Regis/I.Iwunnah)

LB: 1 more (T.Cooks)

S: 1 more (A.Mukuba)

Given how OL recruiting is going, there’s no way I want to take 5 in this class.

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