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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Uh, where do you think radicalism has a home right now in America? Surely you don't believe that the danger comes from the illusory radical socialist hoax, do you?

The Qanon group concerns me the most as far as violence is concerned, although admittedly I know very little about them. Social issues is where you find the nutty ideas on the other end of the spectrum. 
 

I don’t waste my time worrying about socialism, Americans love making money too much. 

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4 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

The Qanon group concerns me the most as far as violence is concerned, although admittedly I know very little about them. Social issues is where you find the nutty ideas on the other end of the spectrum. 
 

I don’t waste my time worrying about socialism, Americans love making money too much. 

You should check out the HBO series "Into the Storm" about Qanon. It's some genuinely excellent reporting that starts in 2017 in very beginning stages that follows all the way through Jan6. Give it a watch and educate yourself

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11 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

If I assume this is true, why do you think that is?  How does it affect anyone?  It's just like LGBTQ to me.  Doesn't affect me and none of my business.

There’s not a uniform answer to that question, it varies. I think many were on board when it pertained to adults, but it’s now moved to children. When you ask parents to let boys into their daughter’s restrooms and dominate women’s sports, the worm turned.

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8 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

There’s not a uniform answer to that question, it varies. I think many were on board when it pertained to adults, but it’s now moved to children. When you ask parents to let boys into their daughter’s restrooms and dominate women’s sports, the worm turned.

Negged for this obvious line of bullshit right here.

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22 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

There’s not a uniform answer to that question, it varies. I think many were on board when it pertained to adults, but it’s now moved to children. When you ask parents to let boys into their daughter’s restrooms and dominate women’s sports, the worm turned.

This is absolute horseshit.

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39 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

The Qanon group concerns me the most as far as violence is concerned, although admittedly I know very little about them. Social issues is where you find the nutty ideas on the other end of the spectrum. 
 

I don’t waste my time worrying about socialism, Americans love making money too much. 

Especially those that benefit from Socialism--like say, anybody/group/corporation that takes subsidies.  

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3 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

What world do you live in where you think there’s a line of horned up masculine boys in high school and junior high begging to come out to their peers as Trans so they can go in bathrooms and assault your daughter?

You don’t remember how ruthless teenage boys are to each other during that age. That’s why people are trying to connect the dots with you about Trans youth and suicide. 

Those same daughters you want to protect from sexual assault, you then cast aside when protecting their attackers right to claim his child’s birth mother through force.

 

 

He knows he's full of shit. He just wants more trans kids to be bullied and kill themselves, because he wants fewer trans people in the world.

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29 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

There’s not a uniform answer to that question, it varies. I think many were on board when it pertained to adults, but it’s now moved to children. When you ask parents to let boys into their daughter’s restrooms and dominate women’s sports, the worm turned.

I've seen night clubs and bars with adult bathrooms which catered to both sexes, sometimes with a line of stalls that both could use, adjacent to each other.  But I've never seen this in universities or schools.  However, I have seen a male, female and another unisex bathroom.  The unisex bathroom had a lock and really only allowed for one person to be in at a time.  My wife's former school had a problem with middle school boys making sex videos in the boys bathroom with other female middle schoolers, which  happened probably more than it should.  Don't know why I would be afraid of trans gendered anything.  Rape is rape and illegal everywhere last I checked, and videos of underage students are still against the law, even when filmed by their peers.  Don't know what the concern is.   

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17 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

I've seen night clubs and bars with adult bathrooms which catered to both sexes, sometimes with a line of stalls that both could use, adjacent to each other.  But I've never seen this in universities or schools.  However, I have seen a male, female and another unisex bathroom.  The unisex bathroom had a lock and really only allowed for one person to be in at a time.  My wife's former school had a problem with middle school boys making sex videos in the boys bathroom with other female middle schoolers, which  happened probably more than it should.  Don't know why I would be afraid of trans gendered anything.  Rape is rape and illegal everywhere last I checked, and videos of underage students are still against the law, even when filmed by their peers.  Don't know what the concern is.   

I’ve been to countless bars and concerts where women would use the men’s room because the line for the ladies room was too damn long. Nobody peaked and nobody cared. Everyone just wanted to pee and get back to what they were doing.

Also, while I’m at it, just how often should middle school boys be making sex videos in the bathroom with middle school girls? What is the optimum frequency? You know, just out of curiosity.  :)

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you know what...  many of these conservative hacks have no idea we trans folk are ALL AROUND.  you talk about suburban moms? I'M A SUBURBAN MOM.  You have this idea that trans people look like this:

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The reality is your wives might be our friends and you don't even know it. You've jumped to conclusions about what trans is and isn't and your conclusions drive you to consider us enemies and threats. the reality is, the exact opposite it true, close mindedness has converted you into the threat. YOU ARE THE THREAT.  Take that to your Jesus revivals and fuck off.

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41 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

I've seen night clubs and bars with adult bathrooms which catered to both sexes, sometimes with a line of stalls that both could use, adjacent to each other.  But I've never seen this in universities or schools.  However, I have seen a male, female and another unisex bathroom.  The unisex bathroom had a lock and really only allowed for one person to be in at a time.  My wife's former school had a problem with middle school boys making sex videos in the boys bathroom with other female middle schoolers, which  happened probably more than it should.  Don't know why I would be afraid of trans gendered anything.  Rape is rape and illegal everywhere last I checked, and videos of underage students are still against the law, even when filmed by their peers.  Don't know what the concern is.   

A lot of parents don’t want boys in their daughters restrooms or locker rooms, I don’t think that’s all that unreasonable. 

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2 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

A lot of parents don’t want boys in their daughters restrooms or locker rooms, I don’t think that’s all that unreasonable. 

 

59 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

What world do you live in where you think there’s a line of horned up masculine boys in high school and junior high begging to come out to their peers as Trans so they can go in bathrooms and assault your daughter?

You don’t remember how ruthless teenage boys are to each other during that age. That’s why people are trying to connect the dots with you about Trans youth and suicide. 

Those same daughters you want to protect from sexual assault, you then cast aside when protecting their attackers right to claim his child’s birth mother through force.

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, troph said:

you know what...  many of these conservative hacks have no idea we trans folk are ALL AROUND.  you talk about suburban moms? I'M A SUBURBAN MOM.  You have this idea that trans people look like this:

bud lite.jpg

The reality is your wives might be our friends and you don't even know it. You've jumped to conclusions about what trans is and isn't and your conclusions drive you to consider us enemies and threats. the reality is, the exact opposite it true, close mindedness has converted you into the threat. YOU ARE THE THREAT.  Take that to your Jesus revivals and fuck off.

I have absolutely no issues with you or any other trans adult. That’s not what’s being discussed. 

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1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

 

 

I don’t think I’ve mentioned sexual assault once. Trans people aren’t deviants. It’s a discussion about when two peoples rights bump into each other and how to properly address the issue with as much respect as possible. 

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19 minutes ago, troph said:

you know what...  many of these conservative hacks have no idea we trans folk are ALL AROUND.  you talk about suburban moms? I'M A SUBURBAN MOM.  You have this idea that trans people look like this:

bud lite.jpg

The reality is your wives might be our friends and you don't even know it. You've jumped to conclusions about what trans is and isn't and your conclusions drive you to consider us enemies and threats. the reality is, the exact opposite it true, close mindedness has converted you into the threat. YOU ARE THE THREAT.  Take that to your Jesus revivals and fuck off.

I’m generally with you but come on, just stop with this. It shows very little self and social awareness, at worst— at best a “hope springs eternal” optimism and kool-aid drinking that I suppose is a survival mechanism, so I can’t blame you. Peace to you, but let’s not lose credibility with the over selling of something.

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8 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

A lot of parents don’t want boys in their daughters restrooms or locker rooms, I don’t think that’s all that unreasonable. 

I shouldn't respond, but I will.

 

My kids went to McCallum HS, Austin's arts "magnet", and an extremely LGBTQ-friendly school.  My younger son was an athlete, top sprinter on the track team.  Lots of time in locker rooms, home and away.  A while back I specifically asked him "have you ever seen or heard of a trans kid using the 'other' bathroom, or a cis-gendered kid for that matter?"

"Never."

This is all much ado about nothing.  A nothingburger, if you will.

You don't care.

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1 hour ago, C-Man said:

This is absolute horseshit.

100% This is another manufactured crisis because they don't have a real agenda.

Had a HH with some former coworkers yesterday and one of them started spouting off about how we're turning all 5 year olds into another gender. I don't engage. She's considerably older and will die first.

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10 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

I don’t think I’ve mentioned sexual assault once. Trans people aren’t deviants. It’s a discussion about when two peoples rights bump into each other and how to properly address the issue with as much respect as possible. 

It’s absolutely what you are worried about. What bathroom/restroom rights are expressed and now being ripped to shreds? Right to privacy? you cheered the end of that.

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3 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

It’s absolutely what you are worried about. What bathroom/restroom rights are expressed and now being ripped to shreds? Right to privacy? you cheered the end of that.

I don’t think I’ve ever discussed abortion on this forum, but I suppose it’s possible. I have at some point posted after a few beers, unfortunately. They absolutely have the right to privacy and should be allowed to feel comfortable. That’s what I consider to be the bare minimum as a parent. 

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4 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

They absolutely have the right to privacy and should be allowed to feel comfortable. That’s what I consider to be the bare minimum as a parent.

You don’t actually believe this. If you actually believed your last bit about Trans people not being sexual deviants, and you believe they have a right to privacy, and should be allowed to be comfortable.

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48 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

A lot of parents don’t want boys in their daughters restrooms or locker rooms, I don’t think that’s all that unreasonable. 

Great--where does this happen?  I'm in a liberal bastion and don't know where this exists.

Edit: In fact, an hour west of me they were pulling books from school libraries, while an issue like this would be much bigger.  Know why it wasn't a concern?  

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6 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what is occurring.

They know it, they choose their wording to troll. The glaringly obvious part of his statement is that he and his friends don't consider trans women women. They are boys using the girls bathroom, and of course they like to throw in that they're all out there just raping and shit. They know its bullshit, they just don't like trans people, and it usually extends to LGBTQ folks as well.

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Damn man they could at least send you an updated GQP script along with the klan robes and EZ-burn crosses. Even the car warranty spam callers switch it up every once in awhile.

it’s ok to admit you are afraid of anyone not straight and cisgendered. I mean it’s sad and pathetic but it at least would help give some background to your ignorance. 

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1 hour ago, troph said:

you know what...  many of these conservative hacks have no idea we trans folk are ALL AROUND.  you talk about suburban moms? I'M A SUBURBAN MOM.  You have this idea that trans people look like this:

bud lite.jpg

The reality is your wives might be our friends and you don't even know it. You've jumped to conclusions about what trans is and isn't and your conclusions drive you to consider us enemies and threats. the reality is, the exact opposite it true, close mindedness has converted you into the threat. YOU ARE THE THREAT.  Take that to your Jesus revivals and fuck off.

I for one would like to congratulate you on all the trophies you've won dominating women's sports. I always assumed that's where you got your handle. I've read all the literature and that's clearly the only reason trans people are trans. I'm looking forward to your next venture dominating the upcoming women's world cup. It should be easy, right? I saw it on twitter. /sarcasm (in case it wasn't clear).

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22 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You don’t actually believe this. If you actually believed your last bit about Trans people not being sexual deviants, and you believe they have a right to privacy, and should be allowed to be comfortable.

Their rights do not supersede others. It’s definitely a delicate issue that we’ve yet to properly work out. 

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4 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

Their rights do not supersede others. It’s definitely a delicate issue that we’ve yet to properly work out. 

Trans rights don’t supersede Heterosexual rights? Trans rights don’t supersede Hetero and Homosexual rights? What are we saying here?

Should I let gay men into the mens room when I’ve claimed the entire room to be comfortable in?

 

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9 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Trans rights don’t supersede Heterosexual rights? Trans rights don’t supersede Hetero and Homosexual rights? What are we saying here?

Should I let gay men into the mens room when I’ve claimed the entire room to be comfortable in?

 

I don't have a problem with gay men in the men's room. They can gaze in awe at my 4" vienna sausage.

Nice caaaaack

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1 hour ago, Foosters said:

Poe doesn't want his kids confused. Which is why he wants these men to use the restroom with his daughter:

Freddy McConnell gave birth in 2018 after suspending his hormone treatment.

Health care service aim to help trans Americans

Aydian Dowling, the first transgender model to cover Gay Times magazine |  The Independent | The Independent

Anyway, good luck.

which is a point I've made ever since the 'omg transsssss!!!' reaction fervor has been stoked...

little girls are going to be WAAAY more confused and potentially traumatized by seeing those^ guys in the next stall than they are by seeing troph in there. 🙄 

it's a point consistently ignored, but what else is new. 

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