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59 minutes ago, ztejas said:

It's weird. Especially because despite his shortcomings he's still better than plenty of D1 HCs. Probably waiting for a decent job to open up.

He will fail even harder the next time. 

He does not have the makings of a big-time D1 coach. Or even a small-time D1 coach. The dude has major, major personality flaws. 

Do we remember anything coachlike from his tenure? Mack had a few moments behind the podium. There are whole books of Coach Royal's wit and wisdom. Even Charlie had his moment, warning us about Twitter. 

With Herman, it's just him acting like a 15-year-old punk, mocking that asshole Mizzu QB and flipping off the camera on LHN. What other coach has done shit like that? Allowing that film of him trying and failing to smash that locker is another failure. His IQ might scrape above 140 but functionally he was highly regarded. One of my aunts is almost 70 and has the mind of an eight-year-old and she would know better than to do some of the shit he did. 

The dude is special. Yeah he might be in MENSA. That does not disqualify you from being "special."

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4 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

He will fail even harder the next time. 

He does not have the makings of a big-time D1 coach. Or even a small-time D1 coach. The dude has major, major personality flaws. 

Do we remember anything coachlike from his tenure? Mack had a few moments behind the podium. There are whole books of Coach Royal's wit and wisdom. Even Charlie had his moment, warning us about Twitter. 

With Herman, it's just him acting like a 15-year-old punk, mocking that asshole Mizzu QB and flipping off the camera on LHN. What other coach has done shit like that? Allowing that film of him trying and failing to smash that locker is another failure. His IQ might scrape above 140 but functionally he was highly regarded. One of my aunts is almost 70 and has the mind of an eight-year-old and she would know better than to do some of the shit he did. 

The dude is special. Yeah he might be in MENSA. That does not disqualify you from being "special."

If he’s smart he goes someplace loaded and has a 2–3 year run as OC before getting another HC gig.  
 

It’s funny that we get this rep as a cesspool that runs off quality coaches due to unrealistic expectations and impatience, yet there never seems to be a line of schools waiting to hire our castoffs. And the ones who do land new gigs are nothing short of disasters at their next job. 

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6 hours ago, formermav43 said:

I don’t think he lied. The type of guy who widely broadcasts he’s in Mensa is exactly the type who is arrogant and stubborn enough to think he’s right beyond question.

Absolutely, Tommy boy is 100% stupid enough to pay to be in a "smart people club" scam.

Tom Herman is Peggy Hill in that episode where she gets her PhD in an afternoon from that online scam, only Tom didn't get the win at the end with a convoluted scheme.

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21 minutes ago, Hozz said:

Just imagine if those three games aren't canceled thanks to Covid.  We almost certainly win all three which results in a 10-3 season.  We moving on at that point?  Don't think so.

You could never pencil in a W with Terrapin Tom, with us or at UH. But even if we won two of those, yeah, we probably don't move on. Who says Covid has been all bad?

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He will fail even harder the next time. 
He does not have the makings of a big-time D1 coach. Or even a small-time D1 coach. The dude has major, major personality flaws. 
Do we remember anything coachlike from his tenure? Mack had a few moments behind the podium. There are whole books of Coach Royal's wit and wisdom. Even Charlie had his moment, warning us about Twitter. 
With Herman, it's just him acting like a 15-year-old punk, mocking that asshole Mizzu QB and flipping off the camera on LHN. What other coach has done shit like that? Allowing that film of him trying and failing to smash that locker is another failure. His IQ might scrape above 140 but functionally he was highly regarded. One of my aunts is almost 70 and has the mind of an eight-year-old and she would know better than to do some of the shit he did. 
The dude is special. Yeah he might be in MENSA. That does not disqualify you from being "special."

None of that stuff matters, shows he is human. What mattered was his choice in initial coaching staffs, and, if true, is lack of connection with players, coaches, staff, and alumni. 2019 was one of the worst coaching jobs a coach has had herr, up with Strong, 1997, 2010.
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On 9/26/2021 at 3:40 AM, SEC said:

Absolutely, Tommy boy is 100% stupid enough to pay to be in a "smart people club" scam.

Tom Herman is Peggy Hill in that episode where she gets her PhD in an afternoon from that online scam, only Tom didn't get the win at the end with a convoluted scheme.

Is that a different episode than the one where we learn Peggy is a MENSA member and actually goes to a MENSA convention? Funny you bring her up because I always associate Peggy Hill w/ MENSA.

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I'm 10/10 glad that Tom is gone, I hated the stubbornness, arrogance and immaturity he demonstrated multiple times during his tenure. 

However, I was happy when he got here and was pretty sure just about anyone could do a better job of pointing us in the right direction than Charlie. He did leave us in better shape than Charlie. That and having an A.D. and President pulling together has me hopeful/ optimistic.

I don't hold any ill will toward Charlie or Tom, but I'm overjoyed that they are gone. 

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50 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I don't hold any ill will toward Charlie, because he's a good man who can teach young men how to be good men.  He's just not a good enough football coach for a program like ours.  But I wish him well.

Tom Herman is not a good enough football coach, either, and he's also an insufferably arrogant douchebag whose vagina lips flap in the wind like a pair of flags.  I wish him fatness and baldness.

This. Strong was likeable. He was in over his head, but he was a nice guy and good dude.

Tom was a dick, and regardless of his coaching ability he was always going to be a dick. So fuck that guy.

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So glad that Sark didn't turtle after taking a big lead at halftime. He kept his foot on Tech's neck and kept stomping! Viva Sark!
FUCK YOU TOM!! 
In the second half, I was definitely thinking it's a good thing sark actually means it when he says we won't let up on offense.

Everything about the tech game followed a Tom Herman script except that we didn't turtle up when we got up a couple of touchdowns.

Little doubt in my mind that if Herman had coached that game we would've ended up tied 35-35 in the 4th with tech having all the momentum from their comeback and us hoping that Dicker could save us with 48 yd attempt as time expired.
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8 hours ago, TexArcher said:

I don't hold any ill will toward Charlie, because he's a good man who can teach young men how to be good men.  He's just not a good enough football coach for a program like ours.  But I wish him well.

Tom Herman is not a good enough football coach, either, and he's also an insufferably arrogant douchebag whose vagina lips flap in the wind like a pair of flags.  I wish him fatness and baldness.

 

I believe your wishes will come true, I also think he’s in the right field of endeavor, since his arrogance is unlikely to get anyone killed.

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8 hours ago, GringoSalado said:

IMO the best thing Herman did was make us realize how truly shitty Strong was.

Also, at least he didn’t leave the cupboard completely bare. He had some good talent, we can’t deny. But he exposed himself by not knowing how to deploy it to take advantage of it. Hence the change. I’m just glad we didn’t uh, extend his ass stubbornly like other desperate programs have been know to do.

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1 hour ago, Wishbone said:

Also, at least he didn’t leave the cupboard completely bare. He had some good talent, we can’t deny. But he exposed himself by not knowing how to deploy it to take advantage of it. Hence the change. I’m just glad we didn’t uh, extend his ass stubbornly like other desperate programs have been know to do.

 

Yeah, about that ...

 

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Also, at least he didn’t leave the cupboard completely bare. He had some good talent, we can’t deny. But he exposed himself by not knowing how to deploy it to take advantage of it. Hence the change. I’m just glad we didn’t uh, extend his ass stubbornly like other desperate programs have been know to do.
If you think about our top impact skill players on offense over the last few games, at least half of them wouldn't be on the team if Herman was still the coach (Worthy, K Robinson), and the other half would probably be injured from poor s&c (jwhit) or only touching the ball 6-7 times/game in order to "bring him along slowly."

Pretty scary to imagine Bijan still running second as a change of pace back to Ingram and Kai Money leading the team in receptions because Omeire, Smith, and Whittington would once again be sidelined with no other options at receiver.
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On 9/27/2021 at 8:33 PM, Fastbreak said:

He is coaching up that offensive for the Bears 

At 1:24 Nagy says they have to understand the Why's. If that was not in his vocabulary prior to this year than that is a direct quote from him listening to Turtle Tom.

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21 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

This. Strong was likeable. He was in over his head, but he was a nice guy and good dude.

Tom was a dick, and regardless of his coaching ability he was always going to be a dick. So fuck that guy.

I honestly have no idea if Strong is a nice guy and a good dude.  Herman is clearly a dick.  Strong, no idea.  If the rumors he tried to play the race card on his termination are true, fuck him.  Not sure about the rumors on him banging a booster's wife.  I don't care for married men fucking around.  I also don't like that he pretty egregiously structured his contract with USF to fuck us over.  Had we wanted to litigate that, we would have won.  He knew we wouldn't. He was such an abject failure as a head coach, I don't really give a fuck if he is a nice guy.  Because I felt like shit watching his product on the field.

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3 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

I honestly have no idea if Strong is a nice guy and a good dude.  Herman is clearly a dick.  Strong, no idea.  If the rumors he tried to play the race card on his termination are true, fuck him.  Not sure about the rumors on him banging a booster's wife.  I don't care for married men fucking around.  I also don't like that he pretty egregiously structured his contract with USF to fuck us over.  Had we wanted to litigate that, we would have won.  He knew we wouldn't. He was such an abject failure as a head coach, I don't really give a fuck if he is a nice guy.  Because I felt like shit watching his product on the field.

I think this was more his lawyer calling that shot, not Strong.

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On 9/26/2021 at 12:18 PM, Eskimohorn said:


None of that stuff matters, shows he is human. What mattered was his choice in initial coaching staffs, and, if true, is lack of connection with players, coaches, staff, and alumni. 2019 was one of the worst coaching jobs a coach has had herr, up with Strong, 1997, 2010.

eh I just think those were more symptoms of the same personality flaws: insecurity, narcissism, overconfidence....he totally operated from a place of fear of failure rather than a belief in success. 

 

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On 9/28/2021 at 12:11 PM, TexArcher said:

I don't hold any ill will toward Charlie, because he's a good man who can teach young men how to be good men.  He's just not a good enough football coach for a program like ours.  But I wish him well.

Tom Herman is not a good enough football coach, either, and he's also an insufferably arrogant douchebag whose vagina lips flap in the wind like a pair of flags.  I wish him fatness and baldness.

 

Yeah I’m calling BS on Charlie. He ran to USF and together the sent a fuck you to Texas with that contract. He and USF can go fuck themselves as they both thought they could pull one over on Texas.

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