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34 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

A week from now, no one outside of BlueSky nerds and other political Twitter adjacent groups will remember it.  Then when CA tries it, the right wing propaganda network will fire up and claim Newsom is doing it unilaterally and has no justification.

True but at least it will be easy to refute if Texas passes this first.   The alternative is this, which despite the "trigger clause" (that 95% of voters won't know about or understand) will be the narrative:

FOX NEWS:  "This just in,  the LIBERAL dems are at it again!   In California, dems are illegally FORCING the voters to choose a extreme partisan gerrymandered map ahead of the midterm in a unprecedented move..  Meanwhile poor Gov. Abbott in  Texas is just trying to counter them and FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE, but that too is being stopped by the LIBERALS with their ILLEGAL walkout!    First they stonewalled the release of the Epstein files, now they are illegally trying to STEAL votes from republicans in California and all the while preventing dully elected Texas representative from countering this ILLEGAL redistricting scheme!"

 

And guess what....it will work.

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2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

A week from now, no one outside of BlueSky nerds and other political Twitter adjacent groups will remember it.  Then when CA tries it, the right wing propaganda network will fire up and claim Newsom is doing it unilaterally and has no justification.

 

1 hour ago, Horn Dog said:

True but at least it will be easy to refute if Texas passes this first.   The alternative is this, which despite the "trigger clause" (that 95% of voters won't know about or understand) will be the narrative:

FOX NEWS:  "This just in,  the LIBERAL dems are at it again!   In California, dems are illegally FORCING the voters to choose a extreme partisan gerrymandered map ahead of the midterm in a unprecedented move..  Meanwhile poor Gov. Abbott in  Texas is just trying to counter them and FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE, but that too is being stopped by the LIBERALS with their ILLEGAL walkout!    First they stonewalled the release of the Epstein files, now they are illegally trying to STEAL votes from republicans in California and all the while preventing dully elected Texas representative from countering this ILLEGAL redistricting scheme!"

 

And guess what....it will work.

You are both being so silly.  We all know this will go to the Supreme Court where they will rule in a 5-3 decision that any state that gerrymanders their districts in favor of more Republican seats is legal and any state that does the same for Democrat seats is illegal.  A few people on CNN and MSNBC will scream how horrible this is for a few days and then they will move on to the next thing Trump does like claim that all votes in all states for any Democrat are invalid and only votes for Republican candidates will officially be counted.  

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2 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

 

You are both being so silly.  We all know this will go to the Supreme Court where they will rule in a 5-3 decision that any state that gerrymanders their districts in favor of more Republican seats is legal and any state that does the same for Democrat seats is illegal.  A few people on CNN and MSNBC will scream how horrible this is for a few days and then they will move on to the next thing Trump does like claim that all votes in all states for any Democrat are invalid and only votes for Republican candidates will officially be counted.  

Wait 5-3?? Which conservative judge is about to die??

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5 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

What's stopping these dems from loading up in a white Ford Bronco the day the vote is supposed to happen and leading their escorts on a low speed chase until they run out of gas somewhere in Oklahoma?

Good grief, why do you hate them?  At least NM has recreational weed.

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The Democrats are not responsible for the sad state of affairs in Texas. Voters along with the 40% of registered Texans who did not vote in the last election are.

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Rep. Perez, in very stark terms, put it where the goats can get it:

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/2025/08/07/528214/latino-black-voters-are-big-losers-from-proposed-texas-redistricting-map-house-democratic-deputy-whip-says/

State Rep. Vince Perez (D-El Paso), the House Democrats' deputy whip, disputes the Republican argument. He noted there are about 11 million white residents in Texas. Latino residents passed that number within the last few years. Yet congressional districts where whites can elect their candidates of choice far outnumber those where Latinos and/or Blacks can do likewise.

"If I’m telling you that there’s 26 seats and there are 11 million white residents, that breaks down to 430,000 white residents per congressional seat," Perez said. "So, what does it take for Latinos? Well, there’s one congressional seat for every 1.2 million Latinos, and there’s one Black seat for every 2 million Black voters. That’s why the value of a Latino resident in Texas is one-third of the political power of that that a white resident in Texas delivers, and again, for Black residents in Texas, it’s one-fifth."

RELATED: As Texas pursues mid-decade congressional redistricting, some members of Congress aim to ban the practice

By Perez's analysis, the proposed map would help Republicans to elect representatives on behalf of 90% of all white voters in the state of Texas.

"We have never seen a map so racially discriminatory in Texas since the passage of the Voting Rights Act in 1965," Perez said. "What will be the implications of a government not being held accountable to all of its residents but almost exclusively to one race?"

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7 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Rep. Perez, in very stark terms, put it where the goats can get it:

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/2025/08/07/528214/latino-black-voters-are-big-losers-from-proposed-texas-redistricting-map-house-democratic-deputy-whip-says/

 

State Rep. Vince Perez (D-El Paso), the House Democrats' deputy whip, disputes the Republican argument. He noted there are about 11 million white residents in Texas. Latino residents passed that number within the last few years. Yet congressional districts where whites can elect their candidates of choice far outnumber those where Latinos and/or Blacks can do likewise.

"If I’m telling you that there’s 26 seats and there are 11 million white residents, that breaks down to 430,000 white residents per congressional seat," Perez said. "So, what does it take for Latinos? Well, there’s one congressional seat for every 1.2 million Latinos, and there’s one Black seat for every 2 million Black voters. That’s why the value of a Latino resident in Texas is one-third of the political power of that that a white resident in Texas delivers, and again, for Black residents in Texas, it’s one-fifth."

RELATED: As Texas pursues mid-decade congressional redistricting, some members of Congress aim to ban the practice

By Perez's analysis, the proposed map would help Republicans to elect representatives on behalf of 90% of all white voters in the state of Texas.

"We have never seen a map so racially discriminatory in Texas since the passage of the Voting Rights Act in 1965," Perez said. "What will be the implications of a government not being held accountable to all of its residents but almost exclusively to one race?"

If I could sacrifice my own life with the simple guarantee that this alone would change forever, I would. It wouldn’t even be a difficult choice. I’m so fucking mad about all this shit right now.

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8 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Rep. Perez, in very stark terms, put it where the goats can get it:

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/2025/08/07/528214/latino-black-voters-are-big-losers-from-proposed-texas-redistricting-map-house-democratic-deputy-whip-says/

 

State Rep. Vince Perez (D-El Paso), the House Democrats' deputy whip, disputes the Republican argument. He noted there are about 11 million white residents in Texas. Latino residents passed that number within the last few years. Yet congressional districts where whites can elect their candidates of choice far outnumber those where Latinos and/or Blacks can do likewise.

"If I’m telling you that there’s 26 seats and there are 11 million white residents, that breaks down to 430,000 white residents per congressional seat," Perez said. "So, what does it take for Latinos? Well, there’s one congressional seat for every 1.2 million Latinos, and there’s one Black seat for every 2 million Black voters. That’s why the value of a Latino resident in Texas is one-third of the political power of that that a white resident in Texas delivers, and again, for Black residents in Texas, it’s one-fifth."

RELATED: As Texas pursues mid-decade congressional redistricting, some members of Congress aim to ban the practice

By Perez's analysis, the proposed map would help Republicans to elect representatives on behalf of 90% of all white voters in the state of Texas.

"We have never seen a map so racially discriminatory in Texas since the passage of the Voting Rights Act in 1965," Perez said. "What will be the implications of a government not being held accountable to all of its residents but almost exclusively to one race?"

Based on recent Latino voting trends, this will soon be in the leopards thread.

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Who can/should I send money to. I want to support a Texas democrat  

AOC is the only person I would send money to at this point if I was just itching to waste my time.
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48 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Who can/should I send money to. I want to support a Texas democrat  

Every once in a while I also like to withdraw a couple hundred bucks and then light it on fire.

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25 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

You can send it to me. I’m a Texan that votes democrat

You raise a good point - no D in Texas will have any power as long as we live so why even waste a cent on the party there. 

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1 hour ago, The Ace of Aces said:

You raise a good point - no D in Texas will have any power as long as we live so why even waste a cent on the party there. 

Now you get it.

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12 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Support someone wry and amusing. We'll get a few laughs on the way down and leave great quotes for future historians.

NowThis isn't walking through that door any time soon.

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3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

scotus gonna let all these maps through? gonna be hilarious when it all backfires

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6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

scotus gonna let all these maps through? gonna be hilarious when it all backfires

roberts gutted the voting rights act precisely so these maps could become reality

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1 hour ago, Mo Horn said:

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1 hour ago, Captainant said:

roberts gutted the voting rights act precisely so these maps could become reality

 

44 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Yeah, this is the culmination of Roberts' legal career.

oh, I'm aware. but now that the blue states are doing the same shit, will they let them all through? or just the red ones? we shall see.

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9 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

oh, I'm aware. but now that the blue states are doing the same shit, will they let them all through? or just the red ones? we shall see.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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I know facts are hard and analysis of facts is even harder for the average American, but I find the Princeton Gerrymander Project, Brennan Center and PlanScore analyses incredibly helpful in understanding the realities around gerrymandering in the U.S.  

https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/redistricting-report-card

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/how-gerrymandering-tilts-2024-race-house

https://planscore.org/library/

While Republicans continue to cry about "the Dems starting it", if you check out the maps you'll see that on the Republican side, Florida, Texas, Ohio, Wisconsin and North Carolina are all gerrymandered to fuck and back.  By contrast, if you look at Dem gerrymanders, the only state that is really offensive is Illinois.  The reality is that the other states that Abbott and co. cry about (California, New York and Massachusetts) just have partisan voter distributions such that most districts are consistent with the statewide partisan leans (unlike Texas, where you have to split every city 5 ways and combine them with huge chunks of rural wastelands to get so many R districts).  

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Destroying a world class university to own the libs

They’re hoping to follow the aggy model of being a conservative well ranked public university.

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1 hour ago, BevoAbyss said:

Correct.

Joining the SEC is all ya need to know about the future of UT-Austin, faculty rights, and academic freedom. 

As I said when it happened, joining the SEC was an Abbott-Regents move to align UT with the fascist MAGA Deep South. It was never merely about  "big boy" football and $$$$. That was the smoke screen.

And it worked. Just look at all the SEC love on the football boards.

I don’t see any sec love on the football boards

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Posted (edited)

Another speech, similar to the one that criticized redistricting given by an aggy. This guy claims to be an East Texas farmer.

 

Edited by Willfully Horn
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2 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

I thought Jay was. A pretty conservative guy?

He probably is, but getting out from under a performative lege, governor and BOR was a high priority, I'm sure.

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2 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Another speech, similar to the one that criticized redistricting given by an aggy. This guy claims to be an East Texas farmer.

 

Lol oh yeah the end of Abbott and Trump here...sure.

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1 minute ago, SimonBolivar said:

Lol oh yeah the end of Abbott and Trump here...sure.

yeah, I hate over the top hyperbole like that. it's that sensational bullshit that got us here in the first place

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

He probably is, but getting out from under a performative lege, governor and BOR was a high priority, I'm sure.

There's rumblings from my conservative friends was Jay felt handcuffed during the protests and actually wanted to be handle the protesters with more veracity.  I think he wanted to go to a more conservative place and that's certainly SMU



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