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2 hours ago, Getafix said:

 

Parody?  Satire?  Farce?  Merely typical Aggie hyperbole?

Grandma hitting the sauce?

Whynotall.gif?

I don't know.

 

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This shit is truly glorious. Bag Hag just bought herself another season of her epic troll game. 

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2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:


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Is there anything more perfect than Aggie touting a replica as proof of something, as if anyone can’t get one? I’d like anything? “That’s why my wife had knockoff Louis Vuitton. High life bitches. 

So what are their thoughts on the Gutenberg Bible at the Ransom Center? 

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16 hours ago, Getafix said:

 

Hmmmm...what might happen if the fightin texum aggie find out that the Liberty Bell wasn't named "Liberty" until the 1830s when it was so dubbed by abolitionists as a symbol in their fight against slavery? Would they send the replica to their Qatar campus? Or would they start calling it the "Woke" Bell?

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After reading about our own scrimmage I was trying to determine if I felt better if the offense or defense “won the day”. After reading that I know I prefer to hear that the defense won the day in these settings. If what looch posted is true, they should probably be very concerned about their defense.

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I could take Perun’s excellent presentation on “How lies destroys armies” and replace Russia with Texas A&M and military with football and the presentation would still make prefect sense. A good program should not be whiplashing between dominant defense and offensive that’s just not how football works, either someone is lying or coaching staff is actively stacking practice in ones sides favor which doesn’t tell you anything.

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10 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Which recruit is this about?

I'd guess McKinley based on the NIL and DL + Texas talk. It's also been reported that the mom is in love with UT so that would also line up with it being McKinley. Can't think of any other Texas vs OU recruiting battles remaining besides that one

 

E: I'm an idiot and didn't check the thread I was in. Might be Stone then, but I'd still guess McKinley

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On 8/18/2023 at 8:57 PM, statsman said:

For fun, here is the saved text from the Matt Hayes Sporting News article, explaining that Reggie McNeal is better…

 

While sorting out my old game programs, I stumbled across my 2005 TAMU game program (the one where Stephen McGee started for the Ags in McNeal’s last game at TAMU, because of course he did). The program had an article about McNeal and how he was such a fantastic athlete (because he didn’t have any remarkable wins since his freshman year in 2002). The article noted that he had the most rushing yards the prior year (700 yards vs. VY’s 1,000 yards in 2004) of “any pass-first QBs in the nation”. 
 
They just can’t help themselves. 

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Yep, he said it.

Advantage:  Aggy!

 

Tarp's Take: A&M was ultimately the bigger winner with LHN

Tarp (Aggie 247)

 

FULL ARTICLE

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Tarp's Take: A&M was ultimately the bigger winner with LHN

Tarp (Aggie 247)
 

Associated Press writer Jim Vertuno recently did a story on the pending demise of the Longhorn Network which is being folded into the SEC Network as part of Texas' move to the Southeastern Conference. Vertuno managed to nab multiple quotes from former Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds who was basically the driving force on the Horns' end behind the deal with ESPN to create a 24 hour channel dedicated to covering one school.

“Yeah, it was bold,” said former Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds, the architect of the idea for LHN. “We built something we can be proud of ... I think it's a big loss for Texas to have to give it up.”

Having covered A&M when the LHN came to fruition, I can say that in the end it was a bigger win for the Aggies that came into existence because it pushed the Ags into the SEC.  Not only that, you can say that it's a bigger win for the Horns that it's going away as opposed to hanging around as a reminder of a bygone era when television revenues were tied to a cable channel's footprint.

The Big 12 was laboring under a terrible television deal at the beginning of the last decade when the Pac 12 attempted to entice six programs (Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State) to go west and form a superconference that was going to have its own conference network. By pooling third tier rights of the membership, vertically integrating their operations, and not aligning themselves with a provider like Fox or ESPN, it was hoped that the deal would maximize revenues for everyone involved.  

The merger fell through because ESPN and Fox came up with the money to keep the Big 12 afloat but because the schools wouldn't pool their third tier resources together and form a league network, it still allowed individual schools to strike their own deals for those rights. 

Texas A&M wanted to join the Southeastern Conference which was considered to be more of a cultural fit and ended up turning down not just the Pac 12 but the SEC as well to keep the Big 12 alive even though Colorado and Nebraska vacated the premises. Thus, when it was announced in 2010 that ESPN was creating a network that was to be dedicated to covering only the Horns via their third tier rights to the exclusion of everyone else, A&M not only felt betrayed but endangered as well. On the surface, Texas would be getting more exposure, far more money than anyone else ($15 million annually), and seemingly would be well placed to continue to its winning ways in football (national title in 2005 and the national title game in 2009).

However, things started to spiral out of Texas' control almost right away. Efforts to us the LHN broadcast high school football games with prospects who might have an in interest in Texas were quickly rebuffed by the NCAA (with A&M leading the way in that effort). It quickly became apparent that one school couldn't provide enough product to fill all of the hours available to them. Even if they had, the shows and games weren't going to be seen in very many places as providers didn't want to pick up the network (there have been varying estimates that it's in the six to seven million household range). 

Most of all, the LHN pushed Texas A&M to continue talks with the SEC and in the summer of 2011 the news broke that the Aggies had applied for membership to that league. They were swiftly accepted and almost overnight the presumed advantage that the Horns flipped in the opposite direction.

ESPN, the same league that was promoting Texas via the LHN, began to do the same for the Aggies as a new member of the league in 2012.

A&M then proceeded to trot out a quarterback named Johnny Manziel who not only won the Heisman Trophy but led the Aggies to a top five nationally finish in their first year in the SEC. Manziel closed out his career with a 18 point comeback win over Duke in the Chick Fil A Bowl while national title winning coach Mack Brown was closing out his in 2013 with a loss to Baylor and his resignation.

Spurred by Manziel's success and out of the box thinking (the university issued bonds for financing purposes), A&M began reconstruction of Kyle Field in 2014.

That same year, the SEC launched the SEC Network in which the league's third tier rights were used to generate significantly more money for the Aggies' their third tier rights than Texas was getting from the LHN.

To no one's surprise, 14 schools found a way to provide 24/7 content so that one game (such as the 1969 Big Shootout between the Horns and Arkansas) didn't have to play on a seemingly endless loop.

A&M used its advantage of being the only Texas school in the SEC to out recruit the Horns year after year within the state of Texas. 

Its location in the SEC enabled it to bring in a national title winning coach with ties to the conference who began to recruit other areas of it. In the process, Jimbo Fisher managed to recruit even better than the Aggies had before, landing multiple top ten classes. The people in Austin are working on their fourth football coach during the LHN's tenure.

The Horns tried to join other leagues but were rebuffed because of the LHN which they were contractually obligated to keep going while other conferences had or began to form their own league networks. 

It became an albatross as opposed to an asset.

All Texas could do was eventually admit defeat and follow the money and the Aggies to the SEC, the only conference that would take them because ESPN could do the one thing that other conferences couldn't...terminate the LHN on terms that were agreeable to all parties.

In the end, the LHN turned out to be a better deal for the Aggies because its creation pushed A&M out of its comfort zone and into a better era of revenues, facilities, and prestige.  

And Aggies everywhere probably owe Dodds thanks for playing such a big role in making it happen.

 

 

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So we got paid, had our own network showcasing our school for more than a decade, and they cried about it. They won NOTHING. They got a hype trophy, not an earned trophy. In our worst decade, we did more, won more (fcs do not count) and have hardware.

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On 8/21/2023 at 8:17 PM, Getafix said:

 

Yep, he said it.

Advantage:  Aggy!

 

Tarp's Take: A&M was ultimately the bigger winner with LHN

Tarp (Aggie 247)

 

FULL ARTICLE

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Tarp's Take: A&M was ultimately the bigger winner with LHN

Tarp (Aggie 247)
 

Associated Press writer Jim Vertuno recently did a story on the pending demise of the Longhorn Network which is being folded into the SEC Network as part of Texas' move to the Southeastern Conference. Vertuno managed to nab multiple quotes from former Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds who was basically the driving force on the Horns' end behind the deal with ESPN to create a 24 hour channel dedicated to covering one school.

“Yeah, it was bold,” said former Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds, the architect of the idea for LHN. “We built something we can be proud of ... I think it's a big loss for Texas to have to give it up.”

Having covered A&M when the LHN came to fruition, I can say that in the end it was a bigger win for the Aggies that came into existence because it pushed the Ags into the SEC.  Not only that, you can say that it's a bigger win for the Horns that it's going away as opposed to hanging around as a reminder of a bygone era when television revenues were tied to a cable channel's footprint.

The Big 12 was laboring under a terrible television deal at the beginning of the last decade when the Pac 12 attempted to entice six programs (Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State) to go west and form a superconference that was going to have its own conference network. By pooling third tier rights of the membership, vertically integrating their operations, and not aligning themselves with a provider like Fox or ESPN, it was hoped that the deal would maximize revenues for everyone involved.  

The merger fell through because ESPN and Fox came up with the money to keep the Big 12 afloat but because the schools wouldn't pool their third tier resources together and form a league network, it still allowed individual schools to strike their own deals for those rights. 

Texas A&M wanted to join the Southeastern Conference which was considered to be more of a cultural fit and ended up turning down not just the Pac 12 but the SEC as well to keep the Big 12 alive even though Colorado and Nebraska vacated the premises. Thus, when it was announced in 2010 that ESPN was creating a network that was to be dedicated to covering only the Horns via their third tier rights to the exclusion of everyone else, A&M not only felt betrayed but endangered as well. On the surface, Texas would be getting more exposure, far more money than anyone else ($15 million annually), and seemingly would be well placed to continue to its winning ways in football (national title in 2005 and the national title game in 2009).

However, things started to spiral out of Texas' control almost right away. Efforts to us the LHN broadcast high school football games with prospects who might have an in interest in Texas were quickly rebuffed by the NCAA (with A&M leading the way in that effort). It quickly became apparent that one school couldn't provide enough product to fill all of the hours available to them. Even if they had, the shows and games weren't going to be seen in very many places as providers didn't want to pick up the network (there have been varying estimates that it's in the six to seven million household range). 

Most of all, the LHN pushed Texas A&M to continue talks with the SEC and in the summer of 2011 the news broke that the Aggies had applied for membership to that league. They were swiftly accepted and almost overnight the presumed advantage that the Horns flipped in the opposite direction.

ESPN, the same league that was promoting Texas via the LHN, began to do the same for the Aggies as a new member of the league in 2012.

A&M then proceeded to trot out a quarterback named Johnny Manziel who not only won the Heisman Trophy but led the Aggies to a top five nationally finish in their first year in the SEC. Manziel closed out his career with a 18 point comeback win over Duke in the Chick Fil A Bowl while national title winning coach Mack Brown was closing out his in 2013 with a loss to Baylor and his resignation.

Spurred by Manziel's success and out of the box thinking (the university issued bonds for financing purposes), A&M began reconstruction of Kyle Field in 2014.

That same year, the SEC launched the SEC Network in which the league's third tier rights were used to generate significantly more money for the Aggies' their third tier rights than Texas was getting from the LHN.

To no one's surprise, 14 schools found a way to provide 24/7 content so that one game (such as the 1969 Big Shootout between the Horns and Arkansas) didn't have to play on a seemingly endless loop.

A&M used its advantage of being the only Texas school in the SEC to out recruit the Horns year after year within the state of Texas. 

Its location in the SEC enabled it to bring in a national title winning coach with ties to the conference who began to recruit other areas of it. In the process, Jimbo Fisher managed to recruit even better than the Aggies had before, landing multiple top ten classes. The people in Austin are working on their fourth football coach during the LHN's tenure.

The Horns tried to join other leagues but were rebuffed because of the LHN which they were contractually obligated to keep going while other conferences had or began to form their own league networks. 

It became an albatross as opposed to an asset.

All Texas could do was eventually admit defeat and follow the money and the Aggies to the SEC, the only conference that would take them because ESPN could do the one thing that other conferences couldn't...terminate the LHN on terms that were agreeable to all parties.

In the end, the LHN turned out to be a better deal for the Aggies because its creation pushed A&M out of its comfort zone and into a better era of revenues, facilities, and prestige.  

And Aggies everywhere probably owe Dodds thanks for playing such a big role in making it happen.

 

 

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Anything that gives us the 05 documentary and documentaries on the MNC teams from the 60's is a win. Now since they have no footage from their last one they don't understand how those things are an absolute win.

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