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3 hours ago, texastough said:

As a Dem leader, wouldn't you want to keep that quiet? To give Johnson some cover in case he wants to pass the aid? He can't be seen as having given into pressure from Dems. 

Johnson took Russian money, even if it was indirect, and his actions line up with that.

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This is a fantastic idea and will be a win/win for everyone (read: US and UK) needing to focus on their domestic housefires in an election year:

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EU: Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has proposed using windfall profits from Russia’s frozen assets to fund weapons for Ukraine. There are about $325B in frozen Russian sovereign assets now sitting in G7 countries and still accruing profits. 

https://archive.is/aVeru

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13 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Would House Republicans block that weapons sale?

 

 

Not all Russian assets are frozen/held by the US, the EU can do as it wishes and the snippet in the article about using the finds to purchase arms from European manufacturers only will not sit well with the US war machine

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22 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Would House Republicans block that weapons sale?

I would think/hope not. This isn't coming out of the US budget/govt spending-- it's really an awesome version of taking Russia's hand and slapping their own face with it over and over  325 billion times while saying "stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself".

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Two stupid fat pieces of human garbage.  I also note that now Trump likes Tik Tok.  I think it’s hilarious that his MAGA crew thinks he’s going to be serious about anything except himself, he’d literally send China the deed to Manhattan if he could and they offered to pay his rape lawsuit bills.  
 

Such a weird fucking timeline where a good chunk of Americans want their candidate to cozy up to a grubby little Hungarian kleptocrat. 

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12 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Pope's giving dictators a pass isn't anything new. 

I think John Paul II was an outlier when it came to Popes vocally criticizing dictators.

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3 hours ago, F250 said:

I think John Paul II was an outlier when it came to Popes vocally criticizing dictators.

 

3 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Pope's giving dictators a pass isn't anything new. 

Popes and Dictators DO have a lot of commonalities, when it comes to hierarchy and structure, when you put it that way.

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1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

 

Popes and Dictators DO have a lot of commonalities, when it comes to hierarchy and structure, when you put it that way.

Congregationalism would be an alternative but then you have to deal with the tyranny of the majority.

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22 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Pope's giving dictators a pass isn't anything new. 

Pope’s didn’t give dictators a pass. Righteous coronations were sold to murdering pieces of shit so the cult could maintain power. 

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6 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Pope’s didn’t give dictators a pass. Righteous coronations were sold to murdering pieces of shit so the cult could maintain power. 

This.  Buying indulgences.  Power=Money>>>>>>Salvation.

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https://www.meidastouch.com/news/russia-celebrates-as-orban-says-trump-will-force-ukraine-to-surrender-to-putin

It's crazy how much trump is still impairing our body politik and preventing aid from going to Ukraine. It's a real and tangible major strategic limitation on Ukraine, but since it's """political""" we can't talk about it in the main thread. 

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13 minutes ago, Captainant said:

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/russia-celebrates-as-orban-says-trump-will-force-ukraine-to-surrender-to-putin

It's crazy how much trump is still impairing our body politik and preventing aid from going to Ukraine. It's a real and tangible major strategic limitation on Ukraine, but since it's """political""" we can't talk about it in the main thread. 

Truly remarkable that in 50 years, the only real explanation for the United States' inaction in this conflict will be "uh, the guy who used to be President likes how mean Putin is."

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VoteVets has a new ad addressed to House Republicans and using the words of Ronald Reagan. It’s pretty strong. It’s not up on YouTube yet. They showed it on Morning Joe today and Alexander Vindman was interviewed. (Remember he was the guy who blew the whistle on Trump’s extortion of Zelensky which led to Trump’s first impeachment.)

There are a lot of other VoteVets ads that are up on YouTube if you want to go look.

 

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This is great but it will have no effect.  Donald and therefore the GOP:

- Do not like the U.S. military because it is “woke” and swears loyalty to the Constitution.

- Do not like democracy at home or abroad. 

- Do not like our Allies but do like our enemies. 

DJT wants the United States to be more like Putin’s Russia. It’s a fundamental thing. Ukraine isn’t a political issue they can be cajoled into: they really do want Russia to win and to hold up Russia as an example. 
 

This is where we are as a country. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Truly remarkable that in 50 years, the only real explanation for the United States' inaction in this conflict will be "uh, the guy who used to be President likes how mean Putin is."

Two reasons:

1. Russian nuclear blackmail worked on Jake Sullivan.

2. Trump wants Russia to win. 

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This is great but it will have no effect.  Donald and therefore the GOP:
- Do not like the U.S. military because it is “woke” and swears loyalty to the Constitution.
- Do not like democracy at home or abroad. 
- Do not like our Allies but do like our enemies. 
DJT wants the United States to be more like Putin’s Russia. It’s a fundamental thing. Ukraine isn’t a political issue they can be cajoled into: they really do want Russia to win and to hold up Russia as an example. 
 
This is where we are as a country. 
 
 

It’s not any more complicated than this. Given a choice between a functioning representative democracy or an autocratic fascist oligarchy, the GQP - a cult that has no identity other than what Trump says its identity is - chose the second option, with deadly enthusiasm.
They are the greatest threat this country has ever faced, because threats from within are always the most dangerous.
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So, this is super fun.  The House recently passed a resolution:

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By a 399-9 vote, the House approved a resolution “condemning the illegal abduction of children from Ukraine to the Russian Federation,” which nine Republicans opposed.

Nine Republicans.  Fucking.  Opposed.  People like Chip Roy and MTG.  These people are inhuman pieces of shit.  Fuck them and fuck anyone who votes for them.  I hope that their children are taken from them in exactly the same fashion - since they don't seem to think it's a problem.

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While it’s important to place the blame at the feet of Republicans, it is equally important to note that House Progressives and the Squad are joining forces with Mike Johnson to prevent a vote on a bill that their party supports and negotiated. 
 

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8 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

While it’s important to place the blame at the feet of Republicans, it is equally important to note that House Progressives and the Squad are joining forces with Mike Johnson to prevent a vote on a bill that their party supports and negotiated. 
 

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Katie Porter?  Damn.  I guess now I should be happy she lost in the Senate primary.

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18 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

While it’s important to place the blame at the feet of Republicans, it is equally important to note that House Progressives and the Squad are joining forces with Mike Johnson to prevent a vote on a bill that their party supports and negotiated. 
 

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Fuck those people 

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Most of them would vote for it under normal circumstances. It's on-brand and understandable that House progressives don't want to ram a bill through in this manner that gives funding to Israel. 

(Mea culpa if the discharge petition isn't the Ukraine/Israel/Palestine/Taiwan conglomerate foreign aid package that was part of the dead border bill.)

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