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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Y'all talking about his milfy mom, and I just realized I was conflating him with Jake Fromm, and his mom and her tits.

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Jaxson Dart's mom is no slouch either

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Maybe it’s time we move on?   He seems to be a decent kid.   Good luck to you Quinn.  Thank you for your time here 

Fucking this. It’s so cringe watching the hate of a guy who always wanted to be a horn but the state of Texas was retarded on NIL and then he got here as fast as he could. Horrible fans trashing him.
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38 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Y'all talking about his milfy mom, and I just realized I was conflating him with Jake Fromm, and his mom and her tits.

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You don't need to worry about her drowning at the beach.

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6 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

a handful of snaps where the defense knows what's coming

That's on Sark for being so predictable (and for putting the team in those situations with his playcalling) but my point stands: weak opponents are not the best way to assess how Arch will handle the gauntlet of an SEC season, plus playoffs and tough OOC.

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1 hour ago, MrBig said:

I can’t wrap my head around how there has been little to no improvement in offensive PPG under Sark while he is supposedly a QB guru. I’ve been hard on Quinn but I think a lot of it has to do with Sark and his decision making

this upcoming season will tell us a lot about why this has been the case. the supporting cast will not be on the same level as it was the past two seasons, but with arch’s bona fide size, athleticism, and talent, i fully expect this year’s offense to be much more dynamic and high scoring. if it’s not, then Sark will certainly come under fire.

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30 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I won’t ever tell Derka he was right that Quinn will compare more closely with Gilbert than Arch. Also, I don’t care enough to argue with a nut job blowhard. 

and yet you’re always posting about me. if someone searched through your posts for the word derka, how many hits would they get? 100? 200? double that? probably so. it’s as if you’re afraid to have any sort of real discussion or debate with me, so you just spend years constantly posting derisively about me, repeatedly announcing your superiority to me, yet never actually entering into a debate with me. are you in love with me or something? i obviously live in your brain, yet you can’t muster the courage to talk to me. yeah- you love me. 

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5 hours ago, Gucci_Suit said:

I think Sam would score from the 1. But the fact that we didn’t against Ohio St, has nothing to do with QE. That was on Sark. I remember being surprised when Sam completed a 20-ish yard pass against good coverage. And I was always surprised when Quinn didn’t. Sam ran like a bull and never got hurt. Respect that, but he was never the passer that QE is. 

A few metrics for consideration from PFF between the 2.  Sam had the highest passing grade in a single season.  He had the highest single season big time throw rate and also a higher big time throw rate for his career.  His career turnover worthy play rate was lower too although his frosh year was slightly higher than QEs year 3.  4.1 to 4.0. 

So there’s at least one reference point that is contrary to your belief. 
 

You should have said I’m more impressed with QEs arm than Sam’s.

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Sucks tbat Quinn, but he did it ot fo himself. Self~sacking. Terrible in the pocket, to get hit, throws moon calls, relies heavily on the short game. It is what it is. Throwing from is back foot . He needs a lot of coaching. Hee deserves his flowers taking us oir of the dark ages and taking us to two semi finals, but he needs a lot of work. It wouldn't be a surprise me if he was cut. 

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9 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Sucks doe Quinn, but he siz it ot fo himself. Sslf~sacking. Terrible in the pocket, to get hit, throws moon calls, relies heavily on tree short game. It is what it is. Throwing from is back door. He needs a lot of coaching. Hee deserves his flowers taking out of the dark ages and taking us to two semi finala, but he needs a lot of work. It would bit surprise me if he was cut. 

 

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4 hours ago, Had Enough said:

A few metrics for consideration from PFF between the 2.  Sam had the highest passing grade in a single season.  He had the highest single season big time throw rate and also a higher big time throw rate for his career.  His career turnover worthy play rate was lower too although his frosh year was slightly higher than QEs year 3.  4.1 to 4.0. 

So there’s at least one reference point that is contrary to your belief. 
 

You should have said I’m more impressed with QEs arm than Sam’s.

How many Championships does he have?

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1 hour ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Sucks doe Quinn, but he siz it ot fo himself. Sslf~sacking. Terrible in the pocket, to get hit, throws moon calls, relies heavily on tree short game. It is what it is. Throwing from is back door. He needs a lot of coaching. Hee deserves his flowers taking out of the dark ages and taking us to two semi finala, but he needs a lot of work. It would bit surprise me if he was cut. 

 

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5 hours ago, Enemy07 said:

How many Championships does he have?

Are you going down the path that Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marion?  That Craig Krenzel is better than, well, a ton of guys?

 

And by the way I addressed a specific point that had nothing to do with wins and losses.

 

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Seeing stuff like this go around social media is a reminder of another fuckup by Quinn's agent/team. 

He was always going pro, but nobody from Quinn's team shot down all these NIL offer rumors. Burton was adamant that he was declaring for the draft, but nothing definitive was said by Ewers until very late. I'd guess his agent probably thought any publicity is good publicity, but it was a completely unnecessary distraction. So now he'll have to deal with this narrative for a long time. So dumb. 

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18 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Ok, I've kept my mouth shut but this post touched a nerve.

The way Sark deployed Arch at the end of the season was borderline criminal. He had the epic TD run vs. A&M. After that, just a bunch more designed runs that were an invitation for defenses to absolutely tee off on Manning. It was stupid and dangerous to rely that heavily on his athleticism/strength and run the same shit over and over again. Comes in cold off the bench to run a telegraphed play where defenders want to literally knock him out. 

Seeing the replay of him getting speared and concussed vs. Ohio State was infuriating. Just a huge fuckup by Sark with how he handled Arch after the A&M game. 

 

I get the point. That said the play worked very well. It may be a great learning lesson for Arch. He had the first down and tried to maximize the run, instead of getting down after he got the first down and avoiding the hit. 

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

I get the point. That said the play worked very well. It may be a great learning lesson for Arch. He had the first down and tried to maximize the run, instead of getting down after he got the first down and avoiding the hit. 

That extra effort paid off big time vs. A&M. Arch is itching to make a big play when his number is called one time.

The lesson should be for Sark, not Manning. Don't put him in that position. Arch wouldn't go meathead on an individual play if he knew he'd get more snaps. 

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4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

That extra effort paid off big time vs. A&M. Arch is itching to make a big play when his number is called one time.

The lesson should be for Sark, not Manning. Don't put him in that position. Arch wouldn't go meathead on an individual play if he knew he'd get more snaps. 

Its the playoffs. I get that point if it is vs San Jose State this year, but not in the playoffs. You do what you can do in the playoffs. He thought Arch was the best option on 4th down to help get to a NC game, you have to call that.  I understand Arch trying to make a play, but it should be a learning lesson for this year. 

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39 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

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Seeing stuff like this go around social media is a reminder of another fuckup by Quinn's agent/team. 

He was always going pro, but nobody from Quinn's team shot down all these NIL offer rumors. Burton was adamant that he was declaring for the draft, but nothing definitive was said by Ewers until very late. I'd guess his agent probably thought any publicity is good publicity, but it was a completely unnecessary distraction. So now he'll have to deal with this narrative for a long time. So dumb. 

You make a good point, but anyone who was dumb enough to believe he was being offered $8 million should be ignored anyway, so fuck 'em. 

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I'm a little troubled by the suggestion that Quinn could have rec'd multiple millions by taking his game to the U of Miami for one more year, but is going to settle for far less in the NFL, and possibly faces being cut by the Dolphins (as happens) - If true, that's gotta be a tough pill for Ewers to swallow. Maybe it will help him get a bit of that killer instinct, that seems to be the biggest problem he had. You could see it in his eyes on the sidelines. If true, he just learned the most expensive lesson of his life. It cost a lot more than a degree from Harvard.

Vince Young had killer instinct. Against USC, he took the bull by the Horns and with seconds left, took it to the End Zone.

I hope Quinn takes that lesson to heart and turns it into a starting role with the Dolphins. He's an accurate short and mid passer. With a good OC, could happen. Good luck, Quinn! Now go make it happen!

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2 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Said Quinn looked tiny compared to Arch and Maalik. 

In comparison, sure.  Quinn is almost exactly the same size as Colt McCoy -- one inch taller, a couple of pounds lighter.

I'd be interested in hearing from those who know what exactly tends to make a guy "injury prone".  Is it an innate structural issue, is it scheme, is it more of an inability to play with pain, other?  Quinn sure did get hurt, a lot.

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6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

In comparison, sure.  Quinn is almost exactly the same size as Colt McCoy -- one inch taller, a couple of pounds lighter.

I'd be interested in hearing from those who know what exactly tends to make a guy "injury prone".  Is it an innate structural issue, is it scheme, is it more of an inability to play with pain, other?  Quinn sure did get hurt, a lot.

It’s because he’s a pussy. 
 

all kidding aside I think it’s something that was brought up in scouting reports. His lower body doesn’t work in tandem with his throwing motion. Sports Hernia and oblique injuries could be from the torque he creates with his body due to that?

 

getting pile driven onto your shoulder and breaking collarbone and having ankle sprained are self explanatory 

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10 hours ago, Nivek said:

So is it time to shit on Arch yet?

Will Arch freeze up against a rush and take bad sacks?

Will Sark have to run the ball every down in the 4th quarter to avoid disaster with a pass play?

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2 hours ago, Had Enough said:

Are you going down the path that Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marion?  That Craig Krenzel is better than, well, a ton of guys?

 

And by the way I addressed a specific point that had nothing to do with wins and losses.

 

Yes, 100% Dilfer is better than Dan Marion. Marion sucks ass, fuck that guy.

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7 hours ago, Enemy07 said:

How many Championships does he have?

He's even got the belt to prove it

 

But Sam did beat Georgia

 

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Plenty of great college QBs don't have NFL talent. Sam had a lot heart and grit, and that goes a long way in college as long as you have a decent skill set and don't make a ton of mistakes. Sam threw well enough, and was an asset in the run game. Quinn has the better arm and vision, but he had zero mobility (why did Sark call so many zone read type plays where everyone in the stadium knew Quinn would never keep it?), throws off his back foot, not a great deep threat, yada yada. I think the 2024 team would've had a better chance to win a championship with Sam at QB, but it's also possible Sam could've made mistakes that cost us a regular season game or two. Sark would prefer Quinn because he's so sure his system is brilliant and Quinn is a precision instrument he can plug into it. Sark's strategy and situational playcalling has to improve, no matter who plays QB.

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In comparison, sure.  Quinn is almost exactly the same size as Colt McCoy -- one inch taller, a couple of pounds lighter.
I'd be interested in hearing from those who know what exactly tends to make a guy "injury prone".  Is it an innate structural issue, is it scheme, is it more of an inability to play with pain, other?  Quinn sure did get hurt, a lot.

Seems like we talk about it every few seasons. Shipley was injury prone when he arrived, Kirk Johnson, Whittington. There have been several players that never see the field for long periods of time because they stay hurt with something. Is it growing faster than their body can support, improper form with lifting or running, something biological? For some, it may be a mental thing.
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2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Seeing stuff like this go around social media is a reminder of another fuckup by Quinn's agent/team. 

He was always going pro, but nobody from Quinn's team shot down all these NIL offer rumors. Burton was adamant that he was declaring for the draft, but nothing definitive was said by Ewers until very late. I'd guess his agent probably thought any publicity is good publicity, but it was a completely unnecessary distraction. So now he'll have to deal with this narrative for a long time. So dumb. 

Or maybe they were keeping their options open and hedging their bets till the last minute.

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13 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

Or maybe they were keeping their options open and hedging their bets till the last minute.

Yeah, I don't buy it. If they were actually keeping their options open and had legitimate big $$$ NIL offers, he would have taken it and transferred. 

 

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58 minutes ago, BERT said:

Yes, 100% Dilfer is better than Dan Marion. Marion sucks ass, fuck that guy.

Now that you say that, I agree.  I’d take Dion Marion over Difler though.

38 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Plenty of great college QBs don't have NFL talent. Sam had a lot heart and grit, and that goes a long way in college as long as you have a decent skill set and don't make a ton of mistakes. Sam threw well enough, and was an asset in the run game. Quinn has the better arm and vision, but he had zero mobility (why did Sark call so many zone read type plays where everyone in the stadium knew Quinn would never keep it?), throws off his back foot, not a great deep threat, yada yada. I think the 2024 team would've had a better chance to win a championship with Sam at QB, but it's also possible Sam could've made mistakes that cost us a regular season game or two. Sark would prefer Quinn because he's so sure his system is brilliant and Quinn is a precision instrument he can plug into it. Sark's strategy and situational playcalling has to improve, no matter who plays QB.

Sark would likely not recruit Sam.  He had an opportunity to have him as his QB.  Ideally he wants the guy that can “make all the throws” Nevermind all those would be incredibly infrequent.  In all my life, I’ve only seen one dude make a 1st down on 3rd and 10 scrambling for the first when the defense dropped 10 guys, but Sark doesn’t care about the dude that “can make all the scrambles.”

15 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Seems like we talk about it every few seasons. Shipley was injury prone when he arrived, Kirk Johnson, Whittington. There have been several players that never see the field for long periods of time because they stay hurt with something. Is it growing faster than their body can support, improper form with lifting or running, something biological? For some, it may be a mental thing.

Think Whittington and Johnson were related to being too bulky and inflexible this leading to their troubles.  Flexibility issues cause problems.

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15 hours ago, Zeus said:

lol 

just admit you are wrong at some point

 

Hah! Good one.

In the midst of Steph Curry's current  playoff run, I'm reminded of P's Shaggy HoF take that Curry would be easy to shut down if a team would just put a tall guard on him. 10 years later, the dumb NBA still hasn't solved 37-year old Curry.

Don't recall him taking the L on that one, but maybe I missed it.

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2 hours ago, Zeus said:

Will Arch freeze up against a rush and take bad sacks?

Will Sark have to run the ball every down in the 4th quarter to avoid disaster with a pass play?

Time to get Owens some game reps!  This guy didn't cut it!

(if this isn't obvious, I am being ridiculous)

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14 hours ago, Derka said:

first of all, yes you do. you have soooooo much time, you just don’t want to spend it here, because that would mean posting here when the majority has flipped, and every excuse-laden post that you make won’t be blindly pos-repped by everyone in the crowd.

second, it’s weak as shit spend day after day, week after week, month after month telling half of this thread that they’re full of shit, only to then say, “i don’t have time to post here anymore” as soon as every organization in the nfl sides with the people who you’ve sworn were wrong for so long. it would have been better if you’d just ghosted this thread rather than to come here and pretend like you have better shit to do than make up half of the posts on every single page of this exact thread, when we all know you’ve got plenty of time for that.

Here is the thing Derka since you finally wanna respond. I have what 5000 posts here with the same handle over all the years the place has been here. Why is that? Because I don't really post on the football board unless its football season. Me not posting here isn't a new thing. Meanwile, you've had many different names since we've been here. It wasn't that long ago that you went back to Derka and you are already over 5000 posts.

The draft is opinions. Play is play. Many people who were drafted high turned out to be trash and many that were drafted low turned out to be good. You guys are using it as validation to how you felt about Quinn. And you are welcome to do that, right? I like to talk about actual play. Quinn has a lot of things that went into that draft grade besides what you say like being injured every year since playing football. Size. Low sidearm delivery. But again, get your digs in Derka, and anyone else who might wanna take a swing. We will see how things look in a few months when he gets his shot under center. But remember this post, because if he plays well I am going to drag your ass around this forum. You will never hear the end of it because you didn't even take the time to see what he looked like before your "I told you so".

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17 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

Hah! Good one.

In the midst of Steph Curry's current  playoff run, I'm reminded of P's Shaggy HoF take that Curry would be easy to shut down if a team would just put a tall guard on him. 10 years later, the dumb NBA still hasn't solved 37-year old Curry.

Don't recall him taking the L on that one, but maybe I missed it.

It's like you don't even know how many underwhelming shooting performances Curry has had in the playoffs in his career. But I will let you keep talking.

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