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To the extent Quinn's ankle is TBD until kickoff (which I think is likely the case), I don't think Sark's approach this week is that complicated.  Quinn has played multiple OU games, @ Bama, Big 12 Championship, UW playoff game and @ Michigan.   He has the big game road experience any head coach would value whereas Arch has zero.  Of all games I have no doubt Sark really wants Quinn to play this game.  Now, if he's completely ineffective because he gets in and can't move/plant and we are struggling, I'll be shocked if he doesn't take him out.  

Kentucky was odd but we could run the ball at will as long as we weren't fumbling.  He didn't really need Quinn to do anything and I don't think he ever actually thought the game was in question.  This week is different.

In sum, I fully expect Quinn to start this game unless he flat out can't go but I also have zero doubt Arch is getting a ton of starter reps this week preparing to play (particularly considering Quinn is probably getting limited work to maximize healing before Saturday).

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4 minutes ago, Skipper said:

To the extent Quinn's ankle is TBD until kickoff (which I think is likely the case), I don't think Sark's approach this week is that complicated.  Quinn has played multiple OU games, @ Bama, Big 12 Championship, UW playoff game and @ Michigan.   He has the big game road experience any head coach would value whereas Arch has zero.  Of all games I have no doubt Sark really wants Quinn to play this game.  Now, if he's completely ineffective because he gets in and can't move/plant and we are struggling, I'll be shocked if he doesn't take him out.  

Kentucky was odd but we could run the ball at will as long as we weren't fumbling.  He didn't really need Quinn to do anything and I don't think he ever actually thought the game was in question.  This week is different.

In sum, I fully expect Quinn to start this game unless he flat out can't go but I also have zero doubt Arch is getting a ton of starter reps this week preparing to play (particularly considering Quinn is probably getting limited work to maximize healing before Saturday).

This is a legacy game for Quinn and one all the NFL scouts want to see him play. He has a minor ankle sprain. He knows how big this game is for him. I cant imagine he isnt going to play.

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The A&M game against USCr shows that a mobile Arch would be great to replicate it. My main worry with Arch over Ewers is whether Arch has command on "extended handoffs" (horizontal passing, screens), which is a big part of our offense. If not executed well, those are dangerous passes. Without this part of the offense, we'll be high variance, boom or bust type. Way too risky. I hope Sark has Arch ready.

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1 hour ago, jet black said:

I tend to think he didn’t pull him in the Kentucky game because he did pull him in the Georgia game (and regretted it). Just can’t make sense of it otherwise after he missed that slip screen so badly (due to clearly being injured). 

This. Pulling Quinn for just 2 series came off as a desperate move without conviction. Then he leaves an injured Quinn in there for an entire half with a decent lead. It was a great opportunity to give Arch some good reps and get him ready for Aggy and the playoffs if we needed him, instead he went full Mack Brown. Something behind the scenes is causing this irrational behavior imo. 

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On 11/25/2024 at 10:42 PM, Billy Pilgrim said:

Not if you actually watch the games.

Those things don't happen if you actually watch the games.... But if you play, they might.

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39 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

In all honesty, I think QE makes it the whole game, and gives out his calm vibe, and plays Quinn-like.

And the rest of our players on both offense and defense just beat the living shit out of the ags.

If he plays like the first half of Kentucky we absolutely stroke Aggy 

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3 hours ago, immamac said:

3/5 for 14 yards and a fumble lost scoop and score. 

Pretty pretty bad lol

Don't forget the other fumble where he panicked and threw a backwards pass, which lead to Auburn missing a long FG.

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51 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

This. Pulling Quinn for just 2 series came off as a desperate move without conviction. Then he leaves an injured Quinn in there for an entire half with a decent lead. It was a great opportunity to give Arch some good reps and get him ready for Aggy and the playoffs if we needed him, instead he went full Mack Brown. Something behind the scenes is causing this irrational behavior imo. 

We live in a clickbait era where people read headlines and watch highlights instead of watching full games. This was one headline after the game. If you didn’t watch then you would never know Quinn was injured had an awful 2nd half.

Sark is just trying to prevent the headline from becoming “Ewers suffers another injury” or “Ewers pulled for Arch” especially on Senior Night. I think it’s dumb risking further injury but I understand why Sark kept him in the game especially since the running game was finally working. 

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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

This is a legacy game for Quinn and one all the NFL scouts want to see him play. He has a minor ankle sprain. He knows how big this game is for him. I cant imagine he isnt going to play.

If Ewers could hobble around for a half with this ankle, he's playing on Saturday night.

A week of ultrasound and treatments and he should be fine. I just hope his mind is right and he plays loose & confident.

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50 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

What would DKR do?

Run the ball. Early and often. 
 

I also read in here that the tape is out on Quinn, muddy his reads and pressure him. Which fucking qb in America is that not the game plan for??? This place is silly lol. 

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34 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

Run the ball. Early and often. 
 

I also read in here that the tape is out on Quinn, muddy his reads and pressure him. Which fucking qb in America is that not the game plan for??? This place is silly lol. 

It’s Quinn’s reaction to those things. Every Qb’s performance drops with those, but Quinn drops through the floor. Make it easy for him like Florida and he looks like Heisman candidate. Get some pressure and he becomes a self-sacking mess. Does that when he his reads get muddy. Watch him self-sack vs Arkansas with little pressure.  His sack to pressure numbers are god awful. Anyone that has watched Quinn knows his pocket presence is his worst trait 

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2 hours ago, Slacks said:

I'm not waiting. 

Bell should starts.

I don’t know who Bell is but his  demeanor on the sideline is a fucking cancer on the team.  You can clearly read his mind through a 5 second shot on TV and see that he hates winning. 

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Isn’t ewers the worst against pressure 

The pressure of defensive lineman running past our line.  Not the pressure of the atmosphere that’s going to be amped up more than double than the OU game 

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33 minutes ago, EuroHorn said:

The pressure of defensive lineman running past our line.  Not the pressure of the atmosphere that’s going to be amped up more than double than the OU game 

Texas OL is really good. They have given up 49 pressure this year through 11 games 

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2 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

 Aggy is undisciplined, shitty culture, and they haven’t played against a team like Texas. I get it tho, you’ve seen enough of Quinn. What I don’t understand is why you have any faith in an aggy defense that just got its ass handed to it by Auburn tho. We are 8-1 with Quinn, shitting the bed and all under pressure. We are going to come out and play an electric rivalry game and walk away with a W. Book it. 

They play the same brand of thug football Georgia does though. We haven't played another team doing that shit all year. 

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9 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

 Aggy is undisciplined, shitty culture, and they haven’t played against a team like Texas. I get it tho, you’ve seen enough of Quinn. What I don’t understand is why you have any faith in an aggy defense that just got its ass handed to it by Auburn tho. We are 8-1 with Quinn, shitting the bed and all under pressure. We are going to come out and play an electric rivalry game and walk away with a W. Book it. 

What? You can go back and look at my post saying their pass rush is overrated and they are 13th in sacks. One talking about Texas has huge advantage with Helm and RBs vs the A&M LBs. You can look at the post saying Texas is 3rd in YAC and A&M is 114th in YAC allowed. The only way I see A&M winning is if we get bad Quinn (OU,Georgia, and Ark versions). Good Quinn and this is a double digit win. Do you disagree with my assertion that Quinn does not handle pressure well at all? 

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15 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

What? You can go back and look at my post saying their pass rush is overrated and they are 13th in sacks. One talking about Texas has huge advantage with Helm and RBs vs the A&M LBs. You can look at the post saying Texas is 3rd in YAC and A&M is 114th in YAC allowed. The only way I see A&M winning is if we get bad Quinn (OU,Georgia, and Ark versions). Good Quinn and this is a double digit win. Do you disagree with my assertion that Quinn does not handle pressure well at all? 

No sir, I said he shits the bed from time to time. I think we win even if he shits the bed for a minute. Aggy doesn’t have the OL Georgia does or ettiene. They can throw the kitchen sink at us and we will weather it and win. That Georgia team we played with their defense executing the way they were could hang with any team from the last 5 years. Bad Quinn can beat aggy. IMO. I have that level of faith in sark, pk, and the filthiest defense I’ve seen in my lifetime. I will also say I think arch should have finished the game at Kentucky. If Quinn is too physically limited to go then arch should be given the opportunity to play. 

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8 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

No sir, I said he shits the bed from time to time. I think we win even if he shits the bed for a minute. Aggy doesn’t have the OL Georgia does or ettiene. They can throw the kitchen sink at us and we will weather it and win. That Georgia team we played with their defense executing the way they were could hang with any team from the last 5 years. Bad Quinn can beat aggy. IMO. I have that level of faith in sark, pk, and the filthiest defense I’ve seen in my lifetime. I will also say I think arch should have finished the game at Kentucky. If Quinn is too physically limited to go then arch should be given the opportunity to play. 

I agree on the A&M offense. They are going to have a hard time breaking 20 pts, unless they get a lot short fields (turnover and punts). If Quinn has a bad game, it will be a low scoring game tight game like Ark. For the record I wasn’t bothered one way or other about Arch coming in. 

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

I agree on the A&M offense. They are going to have a hard time breaking 20 pts, unless they get a lot short fields (turnover and punts). If Quinn has a bad game, it will be a low scoring game tight game like Ark. For the record I wasn’t bothered one way or other about Arch coming in. 

And this is where I get irritated. "If Quinn has a bad game".

When I went back and looked at the Georgia tape WE had a bad game all the way around. Defensively a couple guys were saving us with individual play but we weren't playing well. They were moving the ball on us through the air. We couldn't stop the run. The entire LOS was being pushed forward 3 yards at snap. Etienne was getting chunk yardage everytime he touched it. We couldn't get to Beck at all. He had all day to stand back there and survey the field. We settled in for a couple drives in the second half only to have busted plays when we need a stop the most.

On offense our line was getting pummeled. We couldn't create running lanes. We had bad penalties at the worst times. We were getting confused with simple stunts, and guys were turning the corner on tackles. The first one by the endzone was Quinn's fault for not stepping up but the second one where he got the ball knocked out he did step up and they still got to us. Receivers were getting bullied in routes. They just were overall way way more physical than we were and we got caught with our pants down.

That looked like an early 2000s OU game where we just weren't mentally ready to play as a whole and then we come back here talking about "If Quinn has a bad game". That's what used to piss me off about blaming games on Simms too. We removed Simms from the equation and still took the same ass-whippings because it wasn't about the quarterback it was about matching physicality and effort level. The quarterback was just a result of not handling business.

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5 hours ago, Classic Rock said:

Championship on the line? Quarterback with a bum ankle? Seen this before:

 

Username checks out.  And thanks.  I love me some Stonie Clark

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29 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

And this is where I get irritated. "If Quinn has a bad game".

When I went back and looked at the Georgia tape WE had a bad game all the way around. Defensively a couple guys were saving us with individual play but we weren't playing well. They were moving the ball on us through the air. We couldn't stop the run. The entire LOS was being pushed forward 3 yards at snap. Etienne was getting chunk yardage everytime he touched it. We couldn't get to Beck at all. He had all day to stand back there and survey the field. We settled in for a couple drives in the second half only to have busted plays when we need a stop the most.

On offense our line was getting pummeled. We couldn't create running lanes. We had bad penalties at the worst times. We were getting confused with simple stunts, and guys were turning the corner on tackles. The first one by the endzone was Quinn's fault for not stepping up but the second one where he got the ball knocked out he did step up and they still got to us. Receivers were getting bullied in routes. They just were overall way way more physical than we were and we got caught with our pants down.

That looked like an early 2000s OU game where we just weren't mentally ready to play as a whole and then we come back here talking about "If Quinn has a bad game". That's what used to piss me off about blaming games on Simms too. We removed Simms from the equation and still took the same ass-whippings because it wasn't about the quarterback it was about matching physicality and effort level. The quarterback was just a result of not handling business.

There is a reason Sark put him on the bench. Feel free to argue your points on the Georgia game with Sark. He was bad vs OU and Arkansas. If the Quinn that played in Ann Arbor shows up, this is a double digit win. 

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

There is a reason Sark put him on the bench. Feel free to argue your points on the Georgia game with Sark. He was bad vs OU and Arkansas. If the Quinn that played in Ann Arbor shows up, this is a double digit win. 

And there was a reason he put him back in there too. Our idea of bad needs a little reminder. Bad is Dart vs Florida. Bad is Beck vs Ole Miss. Bad is Milroe vs OU. If Ole Miss, Georgia, or Bama get OU/Arkansas Quinn they don't lose any of those games. Otherwise agree on Ann Arbor Quinn.

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3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Jesus Christ, this is why I routinely say I hate Texas fans.  We beat OU 34-3 and Ewers went 20/29/199/1/1.  We beat Arkansas 20-10 on the road in front of a crowd that would have preferred to lynch us given a few dozen ropes and a police escort 20/32/176/2/0.

Shut up.

Good job reading stat lines on a check down merchant. 

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