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On 8/7/2025 at 4:25 PM, Anastasis said:

Batshit crazy 10-20% of the time was the other part of that. 

 

BTW. Flu shots started shipping last month. I know that some posters were really worried about that this year. Already in some pharmacies. Don't forget to get in early and get your shot before the season gets wound up. 

Yep - CVS sent me a text yesterday

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On 8/7/2025 at 4:30 PM, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I just keep asking who stands to profit from these asinine decisions and even that seems elusive. off the chain indeed

The oil companies and the churches and anyone else who stands to profit from a general distrust in science. 

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RFK Jr. looks to be targeting everything that he said he wouldn’t during his confirmations. Crazy that lying means absolutely nothing in DC.

then again Trump was not going to follow Project 2025 and that is the exact playbook 

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8 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Uh, french fries are a risk because they're damn near 100% carbs, not because of the oil they are fried in.  Christ.

The deep frying in oils certainly make it much worse than sliced potatoes that are baked in the oven.

And I enjoy a side of fries every now and then.  But the problem with fries is that a large chunk of the American consumer (1) eats these at a higher frequency than once or twice a month, and (2) eats these along with a main, like a loaded burger or greasy sandwich, that is just as bad if not worse than the fries (and hey, throw in a Coke while you're at it).

I don't mean to declare a war on french fries.  But they are an anchor for a lot of shitty diets in our country.

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1 minute ago, South Austin said:

The deep frying in oils certainly make it much worse than sliced potatoes that are baked in the oven.

And I enjoy a side of fries every now and then.  But the problem with fries is that a large chunk of the American consumer (1) eats these at a higher frequency than once or twice a month, and (2) eats these along with a main, like a loaded burger or greasy sandwich, that is just as bad if not worse than the fries (and hey, throw in a Coke while you're at it).

I don't mean to declare a war on french fries.  But they are an anchor for a lot of shitty diets in our country.

Thinly sliced potatoes and onions tiled in a baker, topped with chopped tomatoes, drizzled with olive oil, salt and pepper? Yes, please.

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58 minutes ago, South Austin said:

The deep frying in oils certainly make it much worse than sliced potatoes that are baked in the oven.

I'm not saying that frying is a particularly healthy way to cook food, but I was focusing on the mention of diabetes.  Regadless, seed oils are higher in unsaturated fats, which are the "healthier" way to go.

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All of the discussion above is ripped from the pages of "DUH! A Journal of the Obvious."

Potatoes.  Some whole/natural fat.  Salt.  None of those three things are bad for you....in moderation.  In fact, all three are a valid part of a decent diet (seriously, potatoes -- a source of easy calories, that can be grown in cooler climates, are legitimately responsible for population growth and stability in northern europe since the Columbian exchange).   But we have known the rule since the Oracle at Delphi: nothing in excess.

And Americans as a whole eat french fried potatoes to excess.

As I've gotten older, I've found that an occasional order of fries -- size small -- is more than enough.  Hell, for one, after about 3-5 minutes, the typical fry loses it's fresh-out-of-the fryer luster.  But those first 10-12 fries, especially if fried in beef fat or duck fat, are glorious.  A good, real-deal english chip, crispy outside and fluffy inside, amazing.  So, cool.  Enjoy them.  Every once in a while.  That's not what we do.  We eat an estimated 17 lbs of fries per person per year, and trust me, some folks are doing the work to keep that average up while others hardly eat fries.

Food dyes aren't what's killing us (even though they're not good for us).  French fries cooked in seed oils aren't what's killing us.  Eating too much shitty food, including those things, is what's killing us.  Eat whole foods.  Eat a relatively balanced diet, including real vegetables and fruit.  But....where's the profit in that?  And it should be obvious by now, the only motive for any policy we have is profit, and particularly profit to the favored (those who have cozied up to the regime).  Look at any policy, see who benefits, and you'll realize that not only are they not looking out for you, they intend only to make money off of you, damn what it does to you.

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1 minute ago, troph said:

I read the whole article, did you?  portions of the article on potential negatives of seed oil...

sunflower oil and all the others if not highly processed themselves are probably decent for you in limited use, she acknowledges that. good luck finding those oils though. she acknowledges that home cooking in limited quantities with seed oil is also unlikely a big problem.

her entire article is BOTH are bad...  which is what I said.

the health reality is that we all think we avoid processed foods, we don't. I eat a pretty fucking healthy diet by American standards and I just analyzed my fucking museli cereal box (no added sugar, mostly whole foods), a fucking kale pasta salad from HEB's deli and a few other "healthy" foods I eat... guess what... scored as processed or lightly ultra processed. A fucking kale salad with some minor bullshit in it to make it last two more days on the shelf, boom.  now it's not the end of the world here, but the point is, we eat processed and lightly processed food ALL THE TIME. 

seed oils as used in our diets are pretty much worthless or inflammatory.

it's 100% worthwhile to get rid of seed oils from your diet when you can chose avacado oil (high smoke point) to cook your organic potatoes. one is healthy, the other is not, even in home cooking.

this shit isn't hard to understand, though at times it's really hard to fully implement.

Quick summary: the boy has two british friends from uni visiting us.  Last night, he introduced them to some "typical" american fare, which of course includes processed foods.  Specifically, a cup of microwavable kraft mac and cheese.  They also bought some Annie's organic mac and cheese earlier in the day.  As one of the girls was eating it, and commented that "it's fine," she read the ingredients.  "Look at this one.  It has seven LINES of ingredients.  The Annie's has seven ingredients total."

Stuff like that is part of our problem.  Want mac and cheese every once in a while?  Buy Annie's.  Or shit, make your own.  Pasta, butter, flour, milk, cheese, a bit of S&P.  But it also shouldn't be a staple.  How many of us know families where there's a kid who ONLY eats chicken nuggets and mac and cheese?  That's fucked up.

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46 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The most important question of all:  which restaurant(s) in Austin have the best French fries?

I know I've made this pitch before around here, but I was shocked to conclude that some of the best fries I've ever had are....Bill Miller BBQ.  Because they have always used beef fat.  Don't go there often (because there's not much else there we like, and there's not one nearby), but a small order from there is top notch.  Salty Sow also has really good fries.  What we CAN'T find here is a proper British chip:

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We get 'em when we're in the UK, but again....the order size is ridiculous.  One side of them is more than my wife and I can eat.  

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I got nothing to offer, except here's a very unhealthy bowl of Japanese black curry with tons of fried delicious goodness on top of it. I have no idea if it's fried in seed oil or not. image.thumb.jpeg.bfb1ae3c5ae21af3f0cb746ee80d1ae3.jpeg

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2 hours ago, 'stache said:

The people who called Michelle Obama a communist for suggesting that school meals be healthier, and Michael Bloomberg a fascist for trying to limit sales of soda by the bucket, are now totally on board with the federal government imposing healthy food requirements. Cool, cool, cool. I bet the new found "maha" brigade would still scoff at the concept of "food deserts" which are a very real problem, because woke, dei, or some shit. I fucking hate this country. 


Republicans are disingenuous pieces of shit

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10 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Registered dietitian Julia Zumpano, RD, LD, explains what seed oils are, what they can do to your body, and whether you need to cut them out entirely or just try to focus on a healthy, balanced diet.

This shit is nothing new. Avoid omega 6 fatty acids as much as possible and try to use olive oil (and maybe avocado or coconut oil although flavor not as neutral IMO) as it is high in Omega 3 when feasible. Beef tallow is probably going to be super high in omega 6 so idk how people are thinking that is going to help

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3 hours ago, 'stache said:

The people who called Michelle Obama a communist for suggesting that school meals be healthier, and Michael Bloomberg a fascist for trying to limit sales of soda by the bucket, are now totally on board with the federal government imposing healthy food requirements. Cool, cool, cool. I bet the new found "maha" brigade would still scoff at the concept of "food deserts" which are a very real problem, because woke, dei, or some shit. I fucking hate this country. 

the ubiquitous hypocrisy is the #1 reason i went from a member of the Young Conservatives at UT and voting for W to rage-scrolling surly and hating the leadership of Texas so much i fled the state. 

the republican brand is literally nothing but hypocrisy, lies, and fascism.

oh, and clown tv personalities. like for real, FOX news is gonna have to start making people sign non-compete clauses for the federal government lol    

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12 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Thinly sliced potatoes and onions tiled in a baker, topped with chopped tomatoes, drizzled with olive oil, salt and pepper? Yes, please.

Noted.  (No sarcasm.)

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4 minutes ago, troph said:

Olive oil is actually not a great cooking oil. So for us it’s olive oil for salads and other dishes where low heat is all that is required. 

we cook with avocado oil.

Coconut oil is meh. 

seed oils are shit. Except sesame oil, that’s all time GOAT. 

I roast vegetables and cook salmon drizzled in EVOO up to 450 and have never had a problem. The oil doesn’t get up to the temp of the oven

 

if I’m searing steak or something I use clarified butter but I’m not really worried about healthy in that case

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22 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I roast vegetables and cook salmon drizzled in EVOO up to 450 and have never had a problem. The oil doesn’t get up to the temp of the oven

 

if I’m searing steak or something I use clarified butter but I’m not really worried about healthy in that case

I've been pan searing tuna steaks for years using EVOO and never had any issues. I use it to grill salmon too without any problems. Searing with EVOO and an SS All Clad pan works perfectly fine and the clean up is easy. 

 

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Every form of oil is pure calories devoid of actual nutrition.  Soybean, avacado, tallow.  Any debate on which is least unhealthy is a waste of time.

Pick an oil, use it at a minimum, and focus on the more important aspects of your diet.

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On 8/13/2025 at 7:45 AM, Brisketexan said:

As I've gotten older, I've found that an occasional order -- size small -- is more than enough.   So, cool.  Enjoy them.  Every once in a while.  That's not what we do. 

Bah god, that's Doc Sam Beckett's music! 

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11 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I think he means vitamins and minerals?

But it's a maconutrient necessary for humans to consume. EVOO and avocado oil do in fact contain micronutrients and there are definitely unhealthy oils, it's an odd comment to make.

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One last thing on fats/oils. There are arguments to be made about what % of total calories should be from fats. I think it’s widely accepted though that you want most of your dietary fats to come from saturated fats (SFA) and monounsaturated fat (MUFA)

only a minority (some recs say as low as 5%) of fat calories should come from polyunsaturated fats (PUFA) and of those you want to keep the ratio of Omega 6 : Omega 3 at around 2:1. So if you are cooking with oil you want to use one that is low in total PUFA or if high in total PUFA you want the ratio of 6:3 at 2 or less.
 

The worst for you are ones that have high total PUFA and high ratio of 6:3. Some of the worst are safflower oil, cottonseed oil, corn oil, and soybean oil. And guess which oils snack food / processed food manufacturers, chain restaurants, and other industrial kitchens use most commonly?

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2 minutes ago, F250 said:

But it's a maconutrient necessary for humans to consume. EVOO and avocado oil do in fact contain micronutrients and there are definitely unhealthy oils, it's an odd comment to make.

Yes I think he’s misusing the word 

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4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

And guess which oils snack food / processed food manufacturers, chain restaurants, and other industrial kitchens use most commonly?

The least expensive?

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30 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

One last thing on fats/oils. There are arguments to be made about what % of total calories should be from fats.

This is where the broscience starts to kick in when it comes to cycling between bulking and cutting. 

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Nobody roasts a chicken as well as Jonathan Waxman, save maybe Thomas Keller, and Waxman uses EVOO and roasts at 450 F.  Good enough for me.  I can't taste any off flavors and I don't care if I've lost some antioxidants.



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