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Posted
7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well except for transgender folks.  Who are apparently extremely important to his voters, despite constituting less than 2% of the population.

And people who are that interested in a tiny fraction of the American people are also acutely interested in the dick size of long-dead golfers.

It really makes perfect sense when you think about it.

i'm gonna need a venn diagram.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Remember, they did media studies that the more negative she went on Trump, the more it hurt her numbers.  Voters responded way better to her positive ads.

I saw a study a few years ago that showed right leaning voters are more motivated by fear based messaging and prefer more authoritarian leaders while left leaning voters are more motivated by optimistic or hopeful messaging and prefer more democratic leaders. 

Im pretty sure it was a global study but it was a while ago and might have just been a US study. 

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3 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

the polls that are skewing the numbers towards Trump are all GOP friendly and the betting markets showing Trump leading are seeing big money thrown in by big GOP supporters.  and the GOP is now telling us that the machines are rigged bc they're flipping Trump votes to Harris.  see a pattern?  the GOP needs to convince America that Trump is winning this thing bigly heading into November 5 based on the polls and betting markets.  and when he starts getting crushed on November 5, he can say, "See, the Dems are cheating.  I had this thing locked up.  The machines are flipping votes.  Rigged rigged rigged!"

i'll trust Harris's internals suggesting that she can spare a night in Houston than the polls and betting markets.

Everything showing that Harris is doing bad is GOP propaganda? That doesn’t sound just a little too convenient to you?

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26 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm about where you are.

You want to fucking wreck the whole fucking thing?  Fine.  Have at it.  End the Republic.  Join hands with Bibi to exterminate all Palestinians from the Levant.  Hand Europe over to Putin.  You want all that shit?  You get it, enjoy.

When you then cry about the top-to-bottom misery you wrought, well, we fucking told you so.

I will tell you one thing for sure: when Trump wins, I'm no longer just talking about the grifting of MAGA idiots, I am going to do it.  I NEED to do it, because I need to build a pretty fucking big nest egg to fund my escape plan.  Y'all can have the fascist shithole you always wanted, I'll take 10% of your money and then GTFO and leave you to it.

As far as the grifting goes ...

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Posted
1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean, your general gist isn't wrong, but the details are not quite what you're suggesting.

Door to Door sales is a major, major commercial business segment. Most companies use 3rd party door to door sales companies, who employ their own folks to go out and knock on doors and sell things. It can really boost sales numbers, so people/companies are addicted to those sales #s, but they're often highly fucking shady. In Energy, and Telecom, think about people who prey on old folks and get them to sign shit they don't understand. Or fake their signature. Etc. It often comes with a high level of regulator risk, so some companies won't employ Door to Door sale anymore. 

Elon basically hired a bunch of pros to do the door knocking. The only thing pros care about is fucking quotas. How many doors did you knock? How many sales did you make? It's a metrics game. And since they're usually third party working on temporary contracts, they're happy to fudge the fucking numbers to make their quotas/get their bonsues considering in a few weeks they'll be working on another contract somewhere else and there isn't much blowback. 

Contrast that mentality with people who are volunteering, or have more permanent type positions with a democratic party...people who actually care about the outreach and not just checking a box and getting paid. Or the Culinary Union in Nevada. These people care about actual results. 

Man we used to get so many door to door sales people in our neighborhood because it’s a newish neighborhood. The best investment was 2 no soliciting signs for $20 on Amazon. Put on near the edge of my sidewalk/driveway and the other on my door. It drastically reduced the numbers of people knocking and ringing. We do still occasionally get the Chinese restaurant or pizza drop offs that just slide it in the crack of your door. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, locodos said:

Make grandma pull the lever for a rapist.

Every grandma who is pulling the lever for Trump knows he's a rapist or doesn't care.

It's a tossup.  If any of us can find one voter that might have blown off voting to go vote, that's about all we can do.  No sense worrying about it.

We live in a society were intelligence, honesty, patriotism and truth don't matter to a near majority of people.  

Plus, rapists>>>>>homos and trannys and most of them are bad people negroes and mexicans.

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Posted
4 hours ago, hookem2010 said:

So early signs look bad for Nevada, good for PA, and possibly promising for GA? Or am I misreading things?

And I'm guessing if one state is to look bad, Nevada would be the ideal choice (outside of # EVs) because it's probably least indicative of how other swing states are going?

my hope for nevada is that the counting is a shitshow like always and the election is over several days before they announce who won because at that point, who gives a shit.

Posted
49 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Fuck them. I won’t cry when they get deported or their entire family gets nuked in Gaza 

You’re generally a good poster. That’s a really shitty take and you can go fuck yourself.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Helobious said:

The polls have Harris losing, the betting markets have Harris losing, she’s doing dumb shit like going to Houston… a lot of copium being hit around here.

The polls in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania have been pretty rock solid for awhile now. Anything beyond that is just gravy.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Man, if people re-elect that fucking moron because of inflation after all the hell he put the country through for 4 years then we deserve the utter ruin this country will become. At least people will have something to post angrily about online for 4 years. Shit isn't going to cost less under Trump if he tariffs everything. We really are a stupid fucking nation and deserve our fate. Muslims voting for the Muslim ban guy. Simply amazing. 

Yeah, but my guess is he won't impose tariffs just like he never had a plan to replace Obamacare. It served its' purpose on the campaign trail. He completed a few miles of the border wall. That's it. If he wins, he will do two things -- pardon himself and cut taxes for the rich. Period. End of story. And then he'll hand over everything else to the Stephen Millers and Roger Stones and Steve Bannons of the world, who will bend this country over and butt-fuck it (well maybe not white males because that's gay and shit) to Bolivia.

Posted
12 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

People on this board and blue safe spaces can laugh about the McDonald’s business, but I worry about the all these little stunts. He’s good at this and they work. 

I mean, I guess. I'm a construction worker by trade and spend all my days with the working man. They aren't really super horny for Trump. It's the upper middles that have all the Trump signs out.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, locodos said:

I assumed that was the case, but I think it is a HUGE mistake.  Don't normalize his awefulness.  That allows the BOTH SIDES crowd to feel ok about being a horrible person by voting for a horrible agenda.  Make grandma pull the lever for a rapist.

Her campaign vs him is enough with the hate rhetoric. You can’t run that as your positive campaign and run non stop negative/hate related ads. 

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

No, they can go fuck themselves which they will do if they vote for him or vote against her and Trump takes over. But they may be too stupid and one-issue to see that. 

No. What they see is a slaughter that is being supported by the current US administration, and they refuse to support it. I don’t think they’re making the best choice, because I believe Democrats are more likely to come to their senses and rein in Israel. But I also can’t blame them for (a) not voting for the party whose current leader is providing material support to Israel and (b) believing a change will improve the situation, because it’s already as bad as it can get.

If you can’t understand why someone might not vote for a party that currently has the power to stop a massacre but is instead paying for it, then you’re a fucking heartless idiot.

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Posted
Just now, Brisketexan said:

No, it's the absolutely correct take.  If a group of people, in a petulant toddler fit, insist on subjecting the entire country (and indeed the entire world) to the reign of a man bent on our destruction -- AND FUCKING THEIRS -- and he does exactly what he is predicted to do, resulting in hell across the board, including genocide of the very people they claim to be acting on behalf of.....FUCK THEM.  THEY DESERVE IT.  WHEN YOU VOTE FOR YOUR OWN GENOCIDE, YOU DESERVE IT.  HOW IS THAT A CONTROVERSIAL TAKE?

They aren’t voting for their own genocide, you Reaganist twat. They’re voting AGAINST an administration that has paid for and supported their genocide, betting (maybe wrongly) that change at the top can only improve things. 

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Helobious said:

The polls have Harris losing, the betting markets have Harris losing, she’s doing dumb shit like going to Houston… a lot of copium being hit around here.

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3 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

No. What they see is a genocide that is being supported by the current US administration, and they refuse to support it. I don’t think they’re making the best choice, because I believe Democrats are more likely to come to their senses and rein in Israel. But I also can’t blame them for (a) not voting for the party whose current leader is providing material support to Israel and (b) believing a change will improve the situation.

If you can’t understand why someone might not vote for a party that currently has the power to stop a massacre but is instead paying for it, then you’re a fucking heartless idiot.

Ah yes yes. They see a genocide that Trump also supports and will let Bibi increase if he wins in November so that's a great reason to vote for him. They see a man who has enacted a Muslim ban before and will do again. They see a man who will cut off aid to Palestinians. They see a man that will remove birthright citizenship ship and deport pro-Palestinian protesters. Or I guess they just think he's kidding when he says that. Again, he has a higher approval when he's saying he will do worse things. Make that make sense. Or don't because I really don't fucking care if they purposefully help to get him back in office. Let them enjoy the hell they have unleashed on themselves and the people they care about. They think Gaza is bad now. Just fucking wait. 

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Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

But what I hate more is people voting against their own interests to own someone.

This is a judgment call. You and I may disagree with them, but many Muslims believe Trump could not be worse than the current admin (of which Harris is a part). And morally, they can’t pull the lever for someone associated with support for the ongoing slaughter and who did nothing to reach out to them.

It’s entirely defensible and the Harris campaign fucked it up, presumably calculating that the losses of Muslim voters weren’t worth the trade off. 

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Just now, BrickHorn said:

but many Muslims believe Trump could not be worse than the current admin

and that’s why I won’t feel sorry for them. Im not doing this anymore. We all disagree with you, and you have a right to your own opinion. That’s still allowed, for now 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Js1 said:

It will be their own genocide if he wins.

I tend to agree, but reasonable minds differ. It’s voting against the devil you know and it’s perfectly logical even if the assumptions on which it is based ultimately prove flawed.

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Just now, BrickHorn said:

This is a judgment call. You and I may disagree with them, but many Muslims believe Trump could not be worse than the current admin (of which Harris is a part). And morally, they can’t pull the lever for someone associated with support for the ongoing slaughter and who did nothing to reach out to them.

It’s entirely defensible and the Harris campaign fucked it up, presumably calculating that the losses of Muslim voters weren’t worth the trade off. 

Fine then don't pull the fucking lever then at all. Sit home and see what happens to you. It's your choice. You make a bold stand that Trump can't be worse. Enjoy the consequences of that action. Kamala cannot change a thing about what's happening in Gaza without losing even more votes. Biden isn't lifting a finger either. Bibi doesn't want peace. Peace doesn't help Trump get elected. 

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Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

and that’s why I won’t feel sorry for them. 

You won’t feel sorry for desperate people who end up hurt because they misjudged a rock-and-a-hard-place situation? That’s shitty. Again: go fuck yourself.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

They aren’t voting for their own genocide, you Reaganist twat. They’re voting AGAINST an administration that has paid for and supported their genocide, betting (maybe wrongly) that change at the top can only improve things. 


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Posted
Just now, BrickHorn said:

You won’t feel sorry for desperate people who end up hurt because they misjudged a rock-and-a-hard-place situation? That’s shitty. Again: go fuck yourself.

Js1 is going to be one of the first to go, why the fuck would he feel sorry for them? 

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Posted
1 minute ago, mdmost said:

 Biden isn't lifting a finger either. Bibi doesn't want peace. Peace doesn't help Trump get elected. 

I think we can all agree that Biden hasn't done shit to help Harris on anything. He definitely took his ball and went home. 

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Posted
Just now, ConferenceRoom said:

Js1 is going to be one of the first to go, why the fuck would he feel sorry for them? 

Yeah, last I checked, a Trump admin isn’t going to be kind to my people either. 

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Posted
27 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

You just have to say you want a big old glass of Arnold Palmer 

Bring me a big, glistening Arnold Palmer…..

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

No because I will think of Trump talking about someone's penis when I order it.

I will think of how much Arnold Palmer would have despised that dumb piece of shit and how butthurt Jack must be that Trump didn't tell a similar story about him.

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Posted
1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

They aren’t voting for their own genocide, you Reaganist twat. They’re voting AGAINST an administration that has paid for and supported their genocide, betting (maybe wrongly) that change at the top can only improve things. 

That is just fucking false.  The guy they are voting for is the only POTUS in US history to impose a muslim ban.  He has openly stated his support for Bibi going scorched earth in Gaza.  If you claim to support muslim rights and Palestinian people at all, you cannot vote for a man who says this:

“When I’m president, we will not allow colleges to be taken over by violent radicals. If you come here from another country and try to bring jihadism, anti-Americanism, or antisemitism to our campuses, we will immediately deport you, you’ll be out of that school.”

“From the start, Harris has worked to tie Israel’s hand behind its back, demanding an immediate ceasefire, always demanding ceasefire,” Trump said at the event just a few hours after his press conference, adding that it “would only give Hamas time to regroup and launch a new October 7 style attack.”

“I will give Israel the support that it needs to win but I do want them to win fast,” Trump added.

Labeling pro-Palestinian protesters against Israel as “pro-Hamas thugs” and “jihad sympathizers,” Trump threatened to arrest and deport them from the US if he returns to the White House.

Trump’s estimation of the real estate potential of the Gaza Strip echoes that of his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who said in an interview with the faculty chair of Harvard’s Middle East Initiative in February that “Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable.” Kushner also suggested that, if he were in charge, he would “try to move people” from Rafah, in the south of Gaza, into the Negev desert, “so you can go in and finish the job” of eliminating Hamas.

 

 

Fucking hell.  The fucking suicidal idiocy.  It's not about opting for a better choice.  It's about punishing EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH if they don't get their way.  It's pulling the cord on an electoral suicide vest, and it's terrorism by ballot.  Fuck them all.

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Posted
Just now, wildcat09 said:

No, they don't. Anyone who doesn't think Trump back in office would be a very real and existential danger to Muslim-Americans is not reasonable.

There is a very real thing going on in politics right now where voters who should know better are telling themselves "Yes he'll be bad, but it won't happen to me.....hur dur....Inflation....Trump"  It's wild, but also your talking about people who couldn't answer a Tonight Show current events quiz but care enough to vote.  

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