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10 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

They’ll tell you that if you don’t support Trump and Netanyahu then you’re not a good Jew. 

Most American Jews do not support Netanyahu.....

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On 4/9/2025 at 9:58 PM, TwiceHorn said:

I don't care if they do have a transactional group, those fucking Wall Street fucks like Skadden should all turn in their law licenses.

For a bit of perspective, those firms' "transactional groups" don't just draft contracts.  They "paper" monstrous corporate deals like IPOs and acquisitions (e.g your Barbarians At The Gate scenarios).  Their compensation model is a percentage of the deal, just like ibankers and others at the trough.

There is an immense amount of work that goes into those deals, tons of man hours, but the compensation is equally immense, often leading to effective hourly rates of multiple thousands per lawyer, eclipsing the astronomical hourly rates of prominent litigation lawyers, e.g. 1000+++.  And this for every lawyer on the team, from first year to Marty Lipton or Joe Flom.

So, these cowards are financial cowards, trying to stay in the good graces of the Administration, which I don't think would actually impact their business.

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24 minutes ago, freyguy said:

Most American Jews do not support Netanyahu.....

True, but TrumpWorld has redefined anti-semitism to mean talking shit about Israel. They’re totally fine if you talk shit about Jews, though.

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On 4/8/2025 at 8:50 PM, Firemans4Horn said:

I’m sure @Ojo Rojo can tie himself in knots to say how Roberts didn’t give Trump carte blanche on disappearing people. But he would be wrong. #magicalthinking #habeuscorpus 

 

 

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Surely Elon realizes one of the most important character/thematic cores of Magneto is that he's a Holocaust survivor and rabid antifascist, yes?

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-executive-order-targeting-204407681.html

Trump signs executive order targeting law firm Susman Godfrey

don't know who they are? oh, you know, they just represented Dominion, who won their defamation case against FoxNews for $787.5 mil. The EO accused the firm of undermining American interests and elections. WTF.

 

Seriously, this is some chilling bullshit.

 

oh and this gem..

"Trump also alleged Susman engaged in discriminatory employment practices, including through a program offering opportunities for non-white students."

 

Jesus Christ.

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On 4/8/2025 at 12:09 PM, Dahobbs said:

The Court will not do that. And if it did, Trump will not do that. And the dude is probably already dead. 

Here is what Roberts will say: He should not have been deported and that was wrong, but separation of powers prevents the courts from forcing the executive to engage in foreign policy. The proper remedy is to file a habeas petition prior to deportation. You may also be able to file a civil rights action for violation of rights assuming you even manage to get back to the country. Too bad, so sad. He has fucking telegraphed this shit and fucking Barrett joining the dissent should tell you that she knows what is about to happen too. 

It's pronounced, "Ekki, ekki, ekki, ekki, ptang."

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4 minutes ago, yoladu said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-executive-order-targeting-204407681.html

Trump signs executive order targeting law firm Susman Godfrey

don't know who they are? oh, you know, they just represented Dominion, who won their defamation case against FoxNews for $787.5 mil. The EO accused the firm of undermining American interests and elections. WTF.

 

Seriously, this is some chilling bullshit.

 

oh and this gem..

"Trump also alleged Susman engaged in discriminatory employment practices, including through a program offering opportunities for non-white students."

 

Jesus Christ.

It feels like trump is spiraling and going to burn out soon. 

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6 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

It's pronounced, "Ekki, ekki, ekki, ekki, ptang."

Celebrating an unsigned decision that doesn't really require anything and adds the language the government wanted regarding due deference to the executive branch's responsibility for foreign diplomacy seems a bit premature. It was a weak a decision that largely punted on the things that mattered. I hope he gets home. I hope the government actually tries to get him home. I'm not holding my breath on that. The correct action would have been to not take the issue up at all and leave the original order in place. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Celebrating an unsigned decision that doesn't really require anything and adds the language the government wanted regarding due deference to the executive branch's responsibility for foreign diplomacy seems a bit premature. It was a weak a decision that largely punted on the things that mattered. I hope he gets home. I hope the government actually tries to get him home. I'm not holding my breath on that. The correct action would have been to not take the issue up at all and leave the original order in place. 

 

No it wouldn't have. The way it played out is how it needed to play out. 

The supreme court settled this and now it goes into the action stage. This is where trump defies the supreme court on a 9-0 or if we find out there's actually a guardrail left. 

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Just now, Dahobbs said:

Celebrating an unsigned decision that doesn't really require anything and adds the language the government wanted regarding due deference to the executive branch's responsibility for foreign diplomacy seems a bit premature. It was a weak a decision that largely punted on the things that mattered. I hope he gets home. I hope the government actually tries to get him home. I'm not holding my breath on that. 

 

It was 9-0. The reason it is unsigned is so that no particular justice gets assassinated over it.  What it does, in practice, is this - it doesn't decide whether the federal court exceeded it's authority, which is the big, huge Constitutional bugaboo.   Instead, it gave the district court a shot at language that wouldn't offend the executive's foreign affairs authority, it also gives the government a chance to comply and bring the guy back without having to answer the big question. They even signaled what word to use, "direct." It's basically saying, "Okay, pres., your move.  But if you force the issue you are not going to like the answer."

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

No it wouldn't have. The way it played out is how it needed to play out. 

The supreme court settled this and now it goes into the action stage. This is where trump defies the supreme court on a 9-0 or if we find out there's actually a guardrail left. 

There was no reason to disturb the judge's original order. It just delayed getting him home/ the fight that is going to happen anyway. 

2 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

It was 9-0. The reason it is unsigned is so that no particular justice gets assassinated over it.  What it does, in practice, is this - it doesn't decide whether the federal court exceeded it's authority, which is the big, huge Constitutional bugaboo.   Instead, it gave the district court a shot at language that wouldn't offend the executive's foreign affairs authority, it also gives the government a chance to comply and bring the guy back without having to answer the big question. They even signaled what word to use, "direct." It's basically saying, "Okay, pres., your move.  But if you force the issue you are not going to like the answer."

The lukewarm language was almost certainly to allow them to get it to 9-0. It doesn't actually require the government get him back. It just requires the government to maybe try, sort of. If the government does anything but get him back, you'll eventually have an order from the judge that requires them to take some concrete step that the government will deny based upon separation of powers. That's when the real fireworks will start. Again, celebrating this is way premature. Celebrate when the government actually gets him home. 

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Just now, Dahobbs said:

There was no reason to disturb the judge's original order. It just delayed getting him home/ the fight that is going to happen anyway. 

The lukewarm language was almost certainly to allow them to get it to 9-0. It doesn't actually require the government get him back. It just requires the government to maybe try, sort of. If the government does anything but get him back, you'll eventually have an order from the judge that requires them to take some concrete step that the government will deny based upon separation of powers. That's when the real fireworks will start. Again, celebrating this is way premature. Celebrate when the government actually gets him home. 

The judge already issued stuff, you are emotionally clouded. 

No one in the judicial thinks it is okay to disappear people to fucking el Salvador. 

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3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

There was no reason to disturb the judge's original order. It just delayed getting him home/ the fight that is going to happen anyway. 

The lukewarm language was almost certainly to allow them to get it to 9-0. It doesn't actually require the government get him back. It just requires the government to maybe try, sort of. If the government does anything but get him back, you'll eventually have an order from the judge that requires them to take some concrete step that the government will deny based upon separation of powers. That's when the real fireworks will start. Again, celebrating this is way premature. Celebrate when the government actually gets him home. 

The language was the result of negotiations between the justices, sure.  I won't say who orchestrated it.  I agree about the fireworks.

Can we all just feel a little bit good about the fact that the Supreme Court didn't suck Trump's dick?

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28 minutes ago, immamac said:

It feels like trump is spiraling and going to burn out soon. 

I was just having this discussion. China not backing down will hopefully speed it up. 

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10 minutes ago, immamac said:

The judge already issued stuff, you are emotionally clouded. 

No one in the judicial thinks it is okay to disappear people to fucking el Salvador. 

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Just now, Clintonaldo said:

I was just having this discussion. China not backing down will hopefully speed it up. 

He's running out of bullets and his pitchfork cronies are tired and going home, just like they were from his rallies. 

I don't know that there's a way for him to manage both the international relations loss and the domestic opinion hit based on how bad everything has gotten with the economy on this completely self inflicted gun shot wound to the dick. 

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Just now, immamac said:

I don't know that there's a way for him to manage both the international relations loss and the domestic opinion hit based on how bad everything has gotten with the economy on this completely self inflicted gun shot wound to the dick. 

Wag the dog and start a shooting war somewhere....

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Just now, Surly Bevo said:

Wag the dog and start a shooting war somewhere....

Its different being the world police than it is being the instigator on some bullshit. If things go hot somewhere I think it pushes public opinion further down and he potentially loses control of the military command if the orders are unlawful in that they cause massive civilian casualties etc. 

If we did some Russia in Ukraine shit, we would have massive general strikes and a complete social revolution. There is no way people would just be cool with it. 

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23 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

There was no reason to disturb the judge's original order. It just delayed getting him home/ the fight that is going to happen anyway. 

The lukewarm language was almost certainly to allow them to get it to 9-0. It doesn't actually require the government get him back. It just requires the government to maybe try, sort of. If the government does anything but get him back, you'll eventually have an order from the judge that requires them to take some concrete step that the government will deny based upon separation of powers. That's when the real fireworks will start. Again, celebrating this is way premature. Celebrate when the government actually gets him home. 

Bigger picture, the balance of the equities was the government was defending what they admitted was an erroneous if not wholly unlawful removal of an individual to a very dangerous place potentially outside the jurisdiction of US courts and without due process.  There's zero government interest to protect in that situation.

They should have declined to review any aspect of it.

And if they did review it, should have included some harsh language to the effect that the executive's "foreign relations" powers do not give him the power to ignore other aspects of well-settled law.

Instead, they kept the "foreign relations/national security" masquerade alive for several more months.

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9 minutes ago, immamac said:

Its different being the world police than it is being the instigator on some bullshit. If things go hot somewhere I think it pushes public opinion further down and he potentially loses control of the military command if the orders are unlawful in that they cause massive civilian casualties etc. 

If we did some Russia in Ukraine shit, we would have massive general strikes and a complete social revolution. There is no way people would just be cool with it. 

I disagree with none of this, and also don't think that he gives a damn what people are cool with when it comes to decision-making.

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Bigger picture, the balance of the equities was the government was defending what they admitted was an erroneous if not wholly unlawful removal of an individual to a very dangerous place potentially outside the jurisdiction of US courts and without due process.  There's zero government interest to protect in that situation.

They should have declined to review any aspect of it.

And if they did review it, should have included some harsh language to the effect that the executive's "foreign relations" powers do not give him the power to ignore other aspects of well-settled law.

Instead, they kept the "foreign relations/national security" masquerade alive for several more months.

Yup. Exactly my point. 

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The Trump admin continues to purge the military of anyone that is insufficiently loyal to them:

While it's great to know that there are officers that know Trump, Vance and Hegseth are fucking morons, personally I'd prefer that they keep their heads down and retain their positions for as long as they can.  It feels like we're going to need them sooner or later.

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1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

Yellow journalism never died, it just transformed from print to Fox, OAN, Newsmax, etc.

Iraq has something to do with 9/11 and now has WMDs.

Gulf of Tonkin.

The Lusitania.

Endangered students on Grenada.

We're very good at this shit. Or very gullible.

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No one in the judicial thinks it is okay to disappear people to fucking el Salvador. 

Fucking. BULLSHIT.
The SCOTUS is a collaborator with the Regime in cementing its authoritarian powers which cannot be questioned or reversed. They have created a king, completely above the law, because they want it that way. It was not and is not an accident.
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15 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

The Trump admin continues to purge the military of anyone that is insufficiently loyal to them:

While it's great to know that there are officers that know Trump, Vance and Hegseth are fucking morons, personally I'd prefer that they keep their heads down and retain their positions for as long as they can.  It feels like we're going to need them sooner or later.

She said what 99% of people think.

it's hard to hold your tongue when you experience that level of stupidity. That being said, she shouldn't have expressed any of the publicly;  I get why she was fired.

 

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53 minutes ago, immamac said:

The judge already issued stuff, you are emotionally clouded. 

No one in the judicial thinks it is okay to disappear people to fucking el Salvador. 

what if the disappeared dude is not recoverable in an alive condition?

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Just now, Hagbard Celine said:

what if the disappeared dude is not recoverable in an alive condition?

Then people will probably be big mad. 

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12 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Full story is in the NYT:

 

 

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Can't give Americans money or fix our infrastructure or anything else that makes actual sense but we can do this shit

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6 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

The mob boss just collected another $500mn from some spineless lawyers. 
 

 

Kirkland & Ellis was former DOJ Barr's firm correct? No surprise there.

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Two of the four (Shearman, Simpson) are Wall Street firms.  At this point, I think we can count on all of them to knuckle under, although I think that's a gross miscalculation on their part.

Kirkland kind of "goes both ways" politically, but of late seems to have been home to a lot of GOPers.  I doubt they would have been the subject of an EO.

Latham I don't really get at all.  There have been a few of the less political appointees come from Latham (Commissioner of Patents Iancu).

 

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7 minutes ago, That Guy said:

For at least like 1/2 a day. Big mad. 

Going to be some sternly worded tweets. Maybe even an email or two.

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16 hours ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

 

May be nothing but it seems they are moving to ban books at major retailers.

If this is even remotely true, this is a HUMONGOUS deal.  It is the very definition of censorship, using the only tool they have to execute it.

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55 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

The Trump admin continues to purge the military of anyone that is insufficiently loyal to them:

While it's great to know that there are officers that know Trump, Vance and Hegseth are fucking morons, personally I'd prefer that they keep their heads down and retain their positions for as long as they can.  It feels like we're going to need them sooner or later.

Seems like a great way to start a contrary political career.  She saw women being drummed out of the service, so may as well go out guns blazing, as it were.

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42 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

The mob boss just collected another $500mn from some spineless lawyers. 
 

 

These are law firms you should never do business with.  They will sell out their clients under political pressure. 

41 minutes ago, immamac said:

Then people will probably be big mad. 

And then nothing will happen.

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2 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Can we all just feel a little bit good about the fact that the Supreme Court didn't suck Trump's dick?

You mean other than the fact the executive branch now knows as soon as it gets its political enemies out of the country it can wash its hands of them?

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Apparently “anti-semitism” is the new catch all cudgel they will ban hammer people with.   
 
 
 

So the same people who decided a legal immigrant was part of MS-13 because he wore a Chicago Bulls hoodie will now be deciding which social media posts constitute antisemitism and therefore worthy of going to El Salvador?

What’s next? Facial recognition to figure out who attends an anti-Trump rally?
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So the same people who decided a legal immigrant was part of MS-13 because he wore a Chicago Bulls hoodie will now be deciding which social media posts constitute antisemitism and therefore worthy of going to El Salvador?

What’s next? Facial recognition to figure out who attends an anti-Trump rally?

2025: “due process” = “whatever Stephen miller says.”
It’s not any more complex than that.
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🙄🙄🙄

fucking insecure, wanna-be dictator. at least everyone in the comments is just dragging him.

 

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Full story is in the NYT:
 
 
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Maybe Greg Abbott could also give the Greenlanders some private school* vouchers using Texas property taxes.


*private school must not engage in antisemitism, DEI, or acknowledge any ideological values that don’t align with white Christian nationalism
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2 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

The mob boss just collected another $500mn from some spineless lawyers. 
 

 

 

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Two of the four (Shearman, Simpson) are Wall Street firms.  At this point, I think we can count on all of them to knuckle under, although I think that's a gross miscalculation on their part.

Kirkland kind of "goes both ways" politically, but of late seems to have been home to a lot of GOPers.  I doubt they would have been the subject of an EO.

Latham I don't really get at all.  There have been a few of the less political appointees come from Latham (Commissioner of Patents Iancu).

 

@TwiceHorn do you still disagree that the legal profession is in the midst of an ethical crisis? It certainly looks that way from the outside.

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