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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

After reading the comments to the tweetthing (what do we call those?) I'm sure the journo felt he had more important and subtle points to make with Trump than that quite obvious piece of Trumpian bullshit.  And he wound up letting him make a fool of himself anyway.

I get this point of view but I cannot disagree more that moving on to a different topic was the correct move.  Whatever the next set of questions may be, trump is going to lie in his answer.  He will lie, the interviewer will *politely* try to call him out, he'll say something like "this is why your industry is dying, because you're so dishonest and unfair", rinse and repeat.  Nothing is gained by interviewing a habitual liar when you're not prepared to plant a flag on a specific issue and call him a fucking liar to his face.

This absurd ms13 question was a chance to catch him in a lie in real time, and actually have him react to being caught.  Like, how simple would it have been to take a picture of your own fist and add the text on your iphone right in front of him?  At worst, he would realize that the nazi cuntbag stephen miller lied to him about the actual tattoo.  I dunno... seems like a huge missed opportunity to be a journalist with a fucking spine for once..

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What a pathetic performance by that ABC journalist. You have one shot at meeting/talking to him and just cower the minute Trump starts getting aggressive. Can't get over how spineless people have become. 

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5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

What a pathetic performance by that ABC journalist. You have one shot at meeting/talking to him and just cower the minute Trump starts getting aggressive. Can't get over how spineless people have become. 

Easy for us to say. He’s got a lucrative gig, and is a player in the industry. He loses all that within minutes if he’d done the right thing. 

And nothing would’ve changed. 

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Just now, softlynow said:

Easy for us to say. He’s got a lucrative gig, and is a player in the industry. He loses all that within minutes if he’d done the right thing. 

And nothing would’ve changed. 

"Nice little career you have there. Be a real shame if something happened to it." 

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11 hours ago, immamac said:

Yeah he should have stood his ground and said there were not and have never been any tattoos like that on his hands. It's completely false. 

And now you understand why trump has been attacking the media and threatening them so much. He wants them scared and thinking twice before they ask an actual question or seriously challenge their talking points.

The more absurd and outrageous the talking point, the better. It's an bully expression of power to make people repeat things they know aren't true.

Check out Orwell's 1984 for further ideas on the concept.

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11 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

If ABC fires him for confronting the President of the United States about an indisputable fact, let's just pack it up and go home. This shit's over.

Amigo.  Dude.  It's been over for a while now.

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18 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

If ABC fires him for confronting the President of the United States about an indisputable fact, let's just pack it up and go home. This shit's over.

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55 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

 

Every time this discussion comes up it just makes me sad how many of our citizens can only think in sound bites and can’t look deeper into historical occurrences. Enslaved people weren't 3/5 of a person, they were not persons at all under the Constitution, they were chattel, personal property. The fact that they had no vote for said representatives means they should have been counted as zero. What it did was to give white people in southern slave states an additional 3/5 representation for each enslaved person in the state. The reality is that it provided a hell of an incentive to import more enslaved persons in the 20 years the slave trade was allowed to continue. It’s called a “compromise” because the union might not have formed if the South stuck to their guns and just stayed independent.

The overriding discussion is that a union founded on such inequities is tainted from the outset. That’s the part the racist right hates so they twist it as a good thing, because the southern whites didn’t get a full count for each enslaved persons, but again, it should have been zero, the compromise gave the southern slave states way more representation in the House of Representatives than they deserved, and in fact prolonged slavery for decades leading to the civil war, which was primarily about…wait for it…slavery.

https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2025/04/28/a-great-move-or-revisionist-history-indianas-beckwith-sparks-three-fifths-compromise-debate/

In slavery 2.0, will it be based on economic status rather than race?  NGL, I would probably buy a couple of MAGAts to tend to my fields if the price was right (and I had fields to tend) just for the lulz.

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12 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


There’s no “probably” about it. Trump insisted - FUCKING REPEATEDLY - in the interview that it ACTUALLY SAID “MS-13.”
His brain is fucking deconstructed jello.
Seriously, the fucking assholes who voted for him yelled that Biden was mentally gone, yet Biden never said anything remotely that absolutely brain-dead stupid.
He’s one of the dumbest people in the United States. Not one of the dumbest officials, or the dumbest POTUS we’ve ever had…he’s genuinely in the bottom quartile of all Americans.

this level of negative intelligence is the best counter-evidence to the conjecture that he has the combover to conceal the mark of the antichrist

the devil would not send someone this stupid to bring down the world, right?

right?

what time is nazi barbie today?

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12 hours ago, Gap03 said:

This is clearly another "asylum" scenario.  Dumbshit doesn't realize that the "MS13" in the pic was supposed to be the "decoding" of the actual tattoos (haven't heard if they are actually legit), and nobody has the nerve to tell him. Honestly, I don't think it hurts for Moran to get him on record explaining in detail that he is, in fact, that stupid ...

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He could have a piece covering his entire chest that had an arrow pointing up saying this guy is MS13. If dude doesn't have any gang related convictions or and criminal convictions it shouldn't matter. Imprisoning people because of tattoos is completely out of bounds. We have tons of US citizens who have gang related tattoos, some that don't even know they are gang related. We could imprison a qtr of the US if we are going to start doing that.

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Remember in Trump's America we (the people who post here) still have lots to be grateful for.  We just have to not let that awareness not lead to complacency or just cynicism and we need to channel it into whatever action we can muster on behalf of those in this country (and out) who are victims of the chaos. 

Message more for me than you, I reckon.

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1 hour ago, Todd Gack said:

I get this point of view but I cannot disagree more that moving on to a different topic was the correct move.  Whatever the next set of questions may be, trump is going to lie in his answer.  He will lie, the interviewer will *politely* try to call him out, he'll say something like "this is why your industry is dying, because you're so dishonest and unfair", rinse and repeat.  Nothing is gained by interviewing a habitual liar when you're not prepared to plant a flag on a specific issue and call him a fucking liar to his face.

This absurd ms13 question was a chance to catch him in a lie in real time, and actually have him react to being caught.  Like, how simple would it have been to take a picture of your own fist and add the text on your iphone right in front of him?  At worst, he would realize that the nazi cuntbag stephen miller lied to him about the actual tattoo.  I dunno... seems like a huge missed opportunity to be a journalist with a fucking spine for once..

I submit that he was caught in the lie.  He was never ever going to admit that the "MS13" was added to the photo.

But, you're probably right that he was going to lie in a similar baldfaced fashion for every other topic.

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3 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Remember in Trump's America we (the people who post here) still have lots to be grateful for. 

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Everything is eroding. Everything. 

 

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13 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

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Everything is eroding. Everything. 

 

"Remember, those of us who have first-class tickets on the Titanic did not die in the immediate flooding of the lower decks, and we had some really nice cocktails in the lounge.  So, we have lots to be grateful for and should relax, we'll be fine."

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2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

What a pathetic performance by that ABC journalist. You have one shot at meeting/talking to him and just cower the minute Trump starts getting aggressive. Can't get over how spineless people have become. 

I mean his name is Moran

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At this point it's almost impossible to argue with a true believer that a photo has been altered, either by addition or subtraction.  We could all see this coming decades ago as Photoshop started to explode.

I assume there are ways to run a photo through an app to highlight the alterations, but I wouldn't know how to do it.  Regardless, it simply wouldn't matter.  "Fake news."

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I submit that he was caught in the lie.  He was never ever going to admit that the "MS13" was added to the photo.

But, you're probably right that he was going to lie in a similar baldfaced fashion for every other topic.

I read something awhile back that Trump's brain is so mush-like, and he's told so many lies/fabrications in his life that he can't keep anything straight, which explains why he says one thing one day and something completely the opposite the next -- and has no realization of what he's doing. The "truth" is what he believes it is at any given moment.

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1 minute ago, C-Man said:

The "truth" is what he believes it is at any given moment.

It's not even that deep.  He says words that will obtain for him the most gratification possible in any given moment.  Whether or not they are true, or he even believes they are true, has no bearing on it whatsoever.

If he walked into a hotel, and the sign said "free night in the Presidential Suite for anyone from East Timor," he'd saunter up to the desk and say "I'm from East Timor."  And whether that was true or not would not even figure in to the calculus.  Rather, those are the words he needs to say to get him the gratification he wants in a particular moment, so those are the words he will say.  That's all there is to it.  Whether it's true or not never even enters into the calculus in his purely selfish and narcissist brain.

Concepts like "truth" and "lie" can only be considered and calculated by someone who has a grasp of morality and a calculus of moral behavior.  He has none.  Zero.  His brain does not come with that feature, so assigning to him the immoral act of choosing to tell a lie is not an accurate characterization of what happened inside his head.

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It's not even that deep.  He says words that will obtain for him the most gratification possible in any given moment.  Whether or not they are true, or he even believes they are true, has no bearing on it whatsoever.

If he walked into a hotel, and the sign said "free night in the Presidential Suite for anyone from East Timor," he'd saunter up to the desk and say "I'm from East Timor."  And whether that was true or not would not even figure in to the calculus.  Rather, those are the words he needs to say to get him the gratification he wants in a particular moment, so those are the words he will say.  That's all there is to it.  Whether it's true or not never even enters into the calculus in his purely selfish and narcissist brain.

Concepts like "truth" and "lie" can only be considered and calculated by someone who has a grasp of morality and a calculus of moral behavior.  He has none.  Zero.  His brain does not come with that feature, so assigning to him the immoral act of choosing to tell a lie is not an accurate characterization of what happened inside his head.

The really fun part with aging narcissists is that they have spent so long being 100% convinced that everything coming out of their mouths is the absolute truth... that when the crazy REALLY kicks in, they still think it must be true, because it's coming out of their mouth.

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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

The really fun part with aging narcissists is that they have spent so long being 100% convinced that everything coming out of their mouths is the absolute truth... that when the crazy REALLY kicks in, they still think it must be true, because it's coming out of their mouth.

Except for the fact they are ‘leading the free world’

Posted
2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Amigo.  Dude.  It's been over for a while now.

While it feels like we're on a non-recoverable course--and almost certainly are--there's still a difference between attempted resistance, and limpdick as it is, and complete acquiesce.

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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Some good news (for now) 

 

Need to look for the small print footnote that says "released into El Salvadorian custody"

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3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

She needs to be the 2nd in jail when this is over with

 

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Finally, someone in the administration told the truth.  We have never seen anything like it.

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6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

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When we had Baghdad Bob, every American - no matter their political affiliation - would laugh and shake their head at the ridiculous Iraqi propaganda.  Some form of "how fucking pathetic is this?" probably ran through most people's minds. 

Now, half our country sticks their head in the sand when it's happening on our own soil. 

 

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


YOU READY FOR THIS MEDIA!?!?

 

 

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We would also have accepted:

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5 minutes ago, Derka said:

never forget:

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also, i wish i could find it, but there was another twitter interaction that’s one of my favorites of all time. some republican politician went to twitter after seeing tom morello make a political statement, to tell him that he had always liked RATM’s music, but that he would no longer want to listen to it if musicians like that want to opine in politics. “just keep it about the music” and such. someone’s outstanding comment:

OK I GUESS I’LL DO WHAT YOU TELL ME

lmao, never forgot that one.

Yes, Rage Against the MACHINE, just keep it about your music, which has never been about politics in any way, shape, or form.

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