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It would be funny if everyone just said fuck notre dame.  the TV money for Big ten and SEC and Big 12 isn't going to be affected.  only the ACC and NBC is really affected.

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They got it correct putting in Miami over ND. They beat them head to head and are in a conference. Join a conference or fuck off. ND lost to aggy, Miami, their 2 toughest games. Then ran the table on a creampuff schedule they have every year. Until they join a conference, they should have a much smaller margin of error. If they had just 1 loss, then sure, put them in. I believe they only had 1 loss last year.

But the CCG are pointless now. Ohio St vs Indiana wasn't even for anything. Both got bye weeks regardless. Bama could have sat at home, rested and gotten the same result, a playoff spot. Virginia/Duke resulted in nothing.

1st round is some ugly matchups. 2 blowouts coming and then we get a rematch of Bama/OU, 2 of some of the worst offenses in P4 and we just saw that game a few weeks ago and it sucked. Miami vs aggy gives us 2 pretty bad QB's, especially Carson Beck, who can easily give you a 4-5 turnover game any given game.

Ole Miss, Oregon, aggy, Bama would be my picks. The aggy and Bama games are hard to predict because all these teams are such wildcards and have erratic QB play.

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28 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Duke did this, the rules say “five highest ranked conference champions.”  By beating VA for the ACC with five losses, that meant two G5 leagues got a bid. 

Ah gotcha. They were auto bids. How bizarre.

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Notre Dame sitting out the bowl game is a huge fuck you to their seniors.

Look, you played 3 good teams and lost 2 of those.  Your other 9 wins are against air.

And you're the one school with complete control of its schedule.  You tried to take the easy road, and it bit you instead of helping you.  Tough shit.

 

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Notre Dame sitting out the bowl game is a huge fuck you to their seniors.
Look, you played 3 good teams and lost 2 of those.  Your other 9 wins are against air.
And you're the one school with complete control of its schedule.  You tried to take the easy road, and it bit you instead of helping you.  Tough shit.
 

But, some others took the easy road and got in. The message they received was to take an easier path.
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7 minutes ago, Nivek said:


But, some others took the easy road and got in. The message they received was to take an easier path.

Some took the easy road by being in a shitty conference.  That's a problem with the format, and it needs to be addressed.

But Notre Dame could have played 5 good teams, and if they'd gone 3-2 in those games, they wouldn't be in this predicament.  Or, they could have joined a conference.  It's not as if no one wants them.

But no, they chose to stay independent specifically to have the easiest road to an at-large.  Well, it backfired.  No one should feel sorry for them.

Hell, I feel worse for Vandy.  It's not their fault that they got a weak SEC lineup when they were actually good.

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4 hours ago, mdmost said:

That game is in Norman. You're thinking Indiana vs. OU/Bama? I'm happy a Big 10 team is going. 

The Rose Bowl.  IU v the winner 

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Notre Dame is not going to join a conference.  They think being independent is their birthright and what makes them special.  They can’t stand to be lumped in with a group and be told effectively that they are not special.

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35 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

 

But the CCG are pointless now. Ohio St vs Indiana wasn't even for anything. Both got bye weeks regardless. Bama could have sat at home, rested and gotten the same result, a playoff spot. Virginia/Duke resulted in nothing.

Generally speaking, I agree.  But looking at the brackets, the winner got a much favorable path to the final.

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Why have a committee at all?  Why not set up CFP rankings based on objective measures and eliminate the human voting aspect that will always carry at least a hint of partiality and preferential treatment?

Establish rankings based on win/loss records, opponents' win/loss records, points for/against, opponents' points for/against, etc?

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They need to break the conferences in to equal divisions and have numerical playoff standings just like the NFL does.  If they want to have conference championship games, fine, but they don't count in the standings.  Take the rankings and idiots out of the equation.

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9 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Generally speaking, I agree.  But looking at the brackets, the winner got a much favorable path to the final.

But B1G 3rd place Oregon might have it even easier.

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ND out is right, BYU out is right. I think Texas over Miami but it wasn’t as bad of a top 10 as it could have been. I think OU and Bama are suspect too. But it coulda been worse for the sport.

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49 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

They got it correct putting in Miami over ND. They beat them head to head and are in a conference. Join a conference or fuck off. ND lost to aggy, Miami, their 2 toughest games. Then ran the table on a creampuff schedule they have every year. Until they join a conference, they should have a much smaller margin of error. If they had just 1 loss, then sure, put them in. I believe they only had 1 loss last year.

But the CCG are pointless now. Ohio St vs Indiana wasn't even for anything. Both got bye weeks regardless. Bama could have sat at home, rested and gotten the same result, a playoff spot. Virginia/Duke resulted in nothing.

1st round is some ugly matchups. 2 blowouts coming and then we get a rematch of Bama/OU, 2 of some of the worst offenses in P4 and we just saw that game a few weeks ago and it sucked. Miami vs aggy gives us 2 pretty bad QB's, especially Carson Beck, who can easily give you a 4-5 turnover game any given game.

Ole Miss, Oregon, aggy, Bama would be my picks. The aggy and Bama games are hard to predict because all these teams are such wildcards and have erratic QB play.

Putting Miami over ND is completely justifiable, I think ND is a more complete team that could have made a deep run but they are using their own criteria. No issues with that, although they need to stop doing this weekly. It’s stupid and they end up with indefensible individual movements that in the aggregate are OK.
 

The seeding is really stupid when you have three one loss teams, Bama, and Miami that can easily be shuffled with no controversy. Switch A&M with Ole Miss or Ole Miss with Oregon and swap Bama and Miami (who can complain about that) and you have zero first round rematches.  

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23 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Some took the easy road by being in a shitty conference.  That's a problem with the format, and it needs to be addressed.

But Notre Dame could have played 5 good teams, and if they'd gone 3-2 in those games, they wouldn't be in this predicament.  Or, they could have joined a conference.  It's not as if no one wants them.

But no, they chose to stay independent specifically to have the easiest road to an at-large.  Well, it backfired.  No one should feel sorry for them.

Hell, I feel worse for Vandy.  It's not their fault that they got a weak SEC lineup when they were actually good.

I don’t feel bad for Vandy. They lost to the two SEC teams they played that had a pulse. 
 

And the refs also made their loss vs Texas look closer than it was due to extremely suspect officiating in 2H

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6 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

I don’t feel bad for Vandy. They lost to the two SEC teams they played that had a pulse. 
 

And the refs also made their loss vs Texas look closer than it was due to extremely suspect officiating in 2H

I actually feel for Vandy.  quality wins don't matter.  I'm not sure why they were penalized.

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2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

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Probably because you clowns played two teams with a pulse all season, beat one of them by 3 points at home and got fucked in the ass by the other one twice. 

Oh wait I forgot about that 3 point win over an absolutely dogshit Colorado team. Yeah - that was impressive. 

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19 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Putting Miami over ND is completely justifiable, I think ND is a more complete team that could have made a deep run but they are using their own criteria.

Agree. And they're both better than BYU. 

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18 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

I don’t feel bad for Vandy. They lost to the two SEC teams they played that had a pulse. 
 

And the refs also made their loss vs Texas look closer than it was due to extremely suspect officiating in 2H

Those were road losses vs final top 15 teams though. That Bama game was closer than the final score too. Their SOS is signficiantly tougher than Miami and ND, so it really doesn't make much sense that they weren't even in the same conversation.

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23 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

I don’t feel bad for Vandy. They lost to the two SEC teams they played that had a pulse. 
 

And the refs also made their loss vs Texas look closer than it was due to extremely suspect officiating in 2H

Yeah, that's fair.

I'm not exactly heartbroken for Vandy, but they do have a better sob story than Notre Dame.  Vandy went 10-2 in the SEC.  That's supposed to be enough.  The fact that it isn't is really just variance.  Most years, it is.

That's very different from Notre Dame trying to stack the deck and it backfiring on them.  

And sitting out the bowl game is a bitchass move.

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Baylor just announced they are declining their bowl game. This seems to be gaining traction and I'm all for it. Bowl games are a pointless exhibition affair that mean zero. Even more so now with the playoffs. Even before this, it was common for many players to opt-out of these games.

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1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

Baylor just announced they are declining their bowl game. This seems to be gaining traction and I'm all for it. Bowl games are a pointless exhibition affair that mean zero. Even more so now with the playoffs. Even before this, it was common for many players to opt-out of these games.

Playing in a bowl game allows more practice.  It's not nothing.

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2 hours ago, Pancho said:

ND declining their bowl game per Thamel

Any of you geezers remember when Notre Dame eschewed bowls altogether because “academics.”


My guys went 11-0 in 1966 and crushed a decent Nebraska team 34-7 in the Sugar Bowl with Snake Stabler as MVP.  We ended up ranked 3rd behind ND (no bowl) and Michigan State (won Rose Bowl).  The ND / MSU game in East Landing was televised by ABC. They played to a 10-10 tie (no overtime then). The game ended with MSU trying valiantly to win but turning it over on downs at midfield to ND, which took a knee for several plays until the clock ran out. So yeah, fuck ND in the cassock ass.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Playing in a bowl game allows more practice.  It's not nothing.

Well for the seniors it's pointless. They would be practicing for no reason. And how useful would the practices actually be? I'm sure players would be half assing it gearing up for a glorified scrimmage. Any players that opt-out of the game itself I'm sure wouldn't care to practice. 

College football is the only sport that has scrimmages after the season is over and try to dress them up as something meaningful. Imagine any other sport set up like this. But somehow college football fans have accepted this.

Decisions will need to be made about these games because sponsorships and money are involved. Are you going to punish players/teams who decline? 

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1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

Well for the seniors it's pointless. They would be practicing for no reason. And how useful would the practices actually be? I'm sure players would be half assing it gearing up for a glorified scrimmage. Any players that opt-out of the game itself I'm sure wouldn't care to practice. 

College football is the only sport that has scrimmages after the season is over and try to dress them up as something meaningful. Imagine any other sport set up like this. But somehow college football fans have accepted this.

Decisions will need to be made about these games because sponsorships and money are involved. Are you going to punish players/teams who decline? 

sounds like a good way to get 64 team playoff with 32 bowls

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2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Well for the seniors it's pointless. They would be practicing for no reason. And how useful would the practices actually be? I'm sure players would be half assing it gearing up for a glorified scrimmage. Any players that opt-out of the game itself I'm sure wouldn't care to practice. 

College football is the only sport that has scrimmages after the season is over and try to dress them up as something meaningful. Imagine any other sport set up like this. But somehow college football fans have accepted this.

Decisions will need to be made about these games because sponsorships and money are involved. Are you going to punish players/teams who decline? 

Now that we are in the NIL era, you should punish teams that decline. The players are getting paid, so I don’t see what excuse they have nowadays. 

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3 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

College football is the only sport that has scrimmages after the season is over and try to dress them up as something meaningful. Imagine any other sport set up like this. But somehow college football fans have accepted this.

Oh so the Pro Bowl is just meaningless now? Some of us want to watch the 14th best quarterback in the NFL play 7 on 7 flag football in Hawaii.

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1 minute ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

sounds like a good way to get 64 team playoff with 32 bowls

Fuck it, I'm in lol. No one bitches about this approach in college basketball. Granted, 2 totally different sports and they can get that done in a few weeks. 64 teams = 6 potential games which is a half of a season. You would for sure scrap CCG weekend and I think you'd need to cut the regular season to 10 games.

But we know this would never happen. 

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2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Fuck it, I'm in lol. No one bitches about this approach in college basketball. Granted, 2 totally different sports and they can get that done in a few weeks. 64 teams = 6 potential games which is a half of a season. You would for sure scrap CCG weekend and I think you'd need to cut the regular season to 10 games.

But we know this would never happen. 

I like my idea of the top 25 is in the CFP. 24 and 25 play a play in game to get the field to 24 and go from there.

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1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

Notre Dame sitting out the bowl game is a huge fuck you to their seniors.

Look, you played 3 good teams and lost 2 of those.  Your other 9 wins are against air.

And you're the one school with complete control of its schedule.  You tried to take the easy road, and it bit you instead of helping you.  Tough shit.

 

Norte Dame did Texas and any other school that wants to cancel their upcoming series a favor though.  And we should follow up and do it this week and then proceed.to schedule Purdue, Rutgers, or Northwestern in their place.  Since it would fill the void for the P4 requirement and give us a win the committee can’t hold for or against us.  That’s if the future committee is as incompetent and corrupt as fuck as this one.   All of this since the new football power Indiana is playing the likes of Indiana St and Kennasaw  state those years.   

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2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Fuck it, I'm in lol. No one bitches about this approach in college basketball. Granted, 2 totally different sports and they can get that done in a few weeks. 64 teams = 6 potential games which is a half of a season. You would for sure scrap CCG weekend and I think you'd need to cut the regular season to 10 games.

But we know this would never happen. 

yea, do it like march madness, maybe a midweek bye week after round 2 or 3. it'd be awesome. start it on thanksgiving week, this week and next week. then end it sometime around NYE/NYD when most have work off. 

 

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I like my idea of the top 25 is in the CFP. 24 and 25 play a play in game to get the field to 24 and go from there.

then do FCS? seed 1-8 who get a 1st rd bye then go from there? 

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15 minutes ago, GabrielsHorn said:

Now that we are in the NIL era, you should punish teams that decline. The players are getting paid, so I don’t see what excuse they have nowadays. 

They’re not being paid to play.  *wink wink* 

also not sure how the new ruling affects the flimsy veneer of truth in that statement. 

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32 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Playing in a bowl game allows more practice.  It's not nothing.

And it's a hell of an experience for the players.

Declining the bowl game absolutely sucks.

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19 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Fuck it, I'm in lol. No one bitches about this approach in college basketball. Granted, 2 totally different sports and they can get that done in a few weeks. 64 teams = 6 potential games which is a half of a season. You would for sure scrap CCG weekend and I think you'd need to cut the regular season to 10 games.

But we know this would never happen. 

FCS starts their playoffs a week after the regular season is over for all of them.   I think the top eight seeds are given a bye and then it’s off to the races.   They are done by the first week of January.    Let the bowls as we know them collapse.   Give some of those cites the rights to be regional sites come the third rounds and roil with it.  

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Too much GenZ attitude on here. Unless you were a top 2-3 team, the bowls never “meant” anything. It’s about one extra game for players and fans after a winning season to play against a team they don’t typically get to play in (usually) a nice location. It’s more football before long break until August. 

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5 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Too much GenZ attitude on here. Unless you were a top 2-3 team, the bowls never “meant” anything. It’s about one extra game for players and fans after a winning season to play against a team they don’t typically get to play in (usually) a nice location. It’s more football before long break until August. 

wait..."Holiday/Alamo Bowl Champions!" doesn't mean anything to you? I remember when half the bowl teams(RC Slocum) could count themselves Champions at the end of the year.  It was awesome.

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