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1 minute ago, Foosters said:

part of the problem is that the GOP will elevate some random's tweet as the national Dem policy.

Oh, look at this woman - who's running for city council in Portland - saying that police funding should be slashed! Dems want Anarchy!

And then the people who only casually pay attention, see this regurgitated by every conservative media outlet, TikTok video, Podcast, etc., and think "hmmm, Dems are crazy!"

They don't even need to use anyone running for office. Everyone knows who votes for who. You see a guy with wrap-around oakleys and an American flag shirt, you know what tribe he belongs to. So all it really needs to be is anyone with blue hair or black-brown. Right wingers are immediately going to associate that person with Democrats. 

1 minute ago, Da Fino said:

That strategy worked so well that they just make shit up now, like the Cracker Barrel thing and Sidney Sweeney jeans. 

Yep. They used Black America's reaction to that to fire up the ole hate machine. Disney makes a movie with ethnic representation and it turns into "they are trying to replace us". Has shit all to do with what Democratic politicians are running on. 

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The other thing is Trump's current bullshit, to wit authoritarianism, bad economics, thinly veiled racism, petty retribution for political enemies, should have been obvious to anyone paying attention since 2016.

To most of us, the choice is binary:  Trump, or not Trump.  But it's a little more complex than that, because a vote for anyone other than Harris was effectively a vote for Trump.

 

 

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15 hours ago, ztejas said:

I don't dip my toes in here too much but I'm curious what the Surly CR thinks about this guy. My first exposure to him was his appearance on Rogan and I'm not sure I finished the pod but I was intrigued by the niche space that he is attempting to occupy.

I saw an ad earlier today about him asking for donations and was tempted to drop a few simoleons. 

I've used "moderate" to describe myself in the past but I don't think I like that label because it kind of implies I don't give a shit. I have serious issues with both parties and the system as a whole but this dude piques my interest and is someone I would vote for (I vote dem all the time in case anyone was wondering - just not a straight ticket guy).

Like all of you I'm frustrated with the state this country is in right now - and while I don't agree with and have a problem with a lot of the rhetoric on this board I also want the best for the people in this country.

Guys like this that attempt to occupy middle ground without conceding integrity or ethics could be very valuable for the democratic party. 

He's the best Democratic candidate for a statewide office we've had since Ann Richards.

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Can we talk about Talarico and his opponents in the Talarico thread or do we need to rehash an old election for a different race?

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9 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

Can we talk about Talarico and his opponents in the Talarico thread or do we need to rehash an old election for a different race?

Posters don't get to come in here as if we forgot who they were a year ago at this time. Bad faith actors. 

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Yeah, it's pretty simple. Nobody will take him seriously until he can actually say "holy crap shit is really bad I should have helped keep Trump out of office."

FFS he can't even articulate why Harris is a dipshit, he just says it as if it's fact. He came in here saying he wanted an honest discussion but he can't even explain his starting position, which makes honest open discussion impossible. 

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20 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

Talarico is very very close to the ideal Texas Democratic Senate candidate:

White male.

Super duper duper Christian and knows how to articulate that to people across the spectrum.  

Speaks Spanish.

Background in education and is able to seem authentic and come across as a true public servant rather than a super-ambitious power hungry egomaniac (which was what I thought killed Beto).

Legislative experience.

Understands that the way for Democrats to message is to constantly reframe almost every issue as a class (rich vs poor) issue instead of whatever bullshit the MAGA side is spouting.

 

The one thing he’s missing is being pro gun.  I haven’t seen much from him on the topic.  But he needs to learn how to shoot and if/when he wins the primary he needs to release an ad showing him frying bacon on an AK47 that he just emptied the clip on.  Texans are fucking morons and won’t vote for somebody they think will take their guns.  And if there’s an attack on Talarico, it’s that he’s too soft of a personality.  Undoubtedly the attack ads will say stupid shit like “Talarico wants to take your guns and let illegal immigrants walk through your yard…”

He probably doesn’t have a chance.  He will have a better shot against Paxton than Cornyn.  But I do think he’s a better candidate than Beto was.

Disagree about the learning to shoot thing. Every Dem that's ever tried to have a photo op with a gun (except maybe Jason Kander)  has come off looking stupid and awkward, and the gun crowd will jump on any awkwardness no matter how minor. Tim Walz, a lifelong bird hunter, had a double clutch trying to break open his O/U shotgun and the usual suspects called him a fraud and said he wasn't really a hunter despite the fact that anyone that's ever put more than 50 rounds through an O/U has mistimed the thumb latch/ break open movement. 

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8 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Disagree about the learning to shoot thing. Every Dem that's ever tried to have a photo op with a gun (except maybe Jason Kander)  has come off looking stupid and awkward, and the gun crowd will jump on any awkwardness no matter how minor. Tim Walz, a lifelong bird hunter, had a double clutch trying to break open his O/U shotgun and the usual suspects called him a fraud and said he wasn't really a hunter despite the fact that anyone that's ever put more than 50 rounds through an O/U has mistimed the thumb latch/ break open movement. 

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4 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Progressives are the folks who are fucking things up? You are going to have to explain this one to me. Here is what I see-

No.  I think the idiocracy is so strong in this country that that the label "progressive" is problematic.  I think because of this idiocracy progressives do need to focus and simplify the message, and redefine their approach to law enforcements' trampling on civil rights and creating equality of opportunity without focusing on "identity" outside of economic status.

Just because anyone with a brain knows that Black Lives Matter doesn't mean the term hasn't been turned into a weight by the rabble.  

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4 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

No.  I think the idiocracy is so strong in this country that that the label "progressive" is problematic.  I think because of this idiocracy progressives do need to focus and simplify the message, and redefine their approach to law enforcements' trampling on civil rights and creating equality of opportunity without focusing on "identity" outside of economic status.

Just because anyone with a brain knows that Black Lives Matter doesn't mean the term hasn't been turned into a weight by the rabble.  

As have  woke, diversity, inclusion, equity and any other ideas that reflect egalitarianism.

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Just now, Satchel said:

s have  woke, diversity, inclusion, equity and any other ideas that reflect egalitarianism.

Whether right or wrong, the positiveness of diversity and equity have been co-opted by warped semantics.

Inclusion covers both ideas.  

Woke is rightfully a pejorative.



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