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Charlie Kirk Assassinated [Shooter in custody]


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2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

No haven't been able to watch videos this morning. Was he carrying the whole assembled rifle when he jumped down from the building?

Yes.  Wrapped in the black towel but clearly carrying it 

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59 minutes ago, immamac said:

He got shot in the fucking neck. None of that matters. It wasn't a ricochet and it wasn't body armor failure. He got shot in the mother fucking neck and it exploded. Nothing really more to analyze. 

Seriously it's the dumbest thing to argue about. Who gives a shit?

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Yep. Bullet passed through an area in which nothing in its path would have deformed, deflected, or shattered it, and it wasn’t dense or long enough to make it tumble. Clean in and out, imparting lots of energy to the soft tissue which could not handle it. 

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15 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Stupid fucking social media and true crime podcasts have turned everyone into a "well, actually...." person

There is not always a grand conspiracy or fake out.  Jesus Christ. 

Patton Oswalt's deceased wife turned all female true crime junkies into believing they are making a difference. 

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So the expectation I am seeing from a few networks is that CK will be formerly charged. Patel is facing some senate questioning on the Hill prior to the court appearance. Not sure why? Or does anyone know? Is it a closed session kind of thing? 

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7 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

So the expectation I am seeing from a few networks is that CK will be formerly charged. Patel is facing some senate questioning on the Hill prior to the court appearance. Not sure why? Or does anyone know? Is it a closed session kind of thing? 

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Posted
2 hours ago, immamac said:

Next he's gonna tell me that he didn't get shot. It was just an invisible man who slit his throat at the exact time the gun noise went off. It was fucking aliens 

Well, do you have any evidence that it wasn't aliens? 

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https://ksltv.com/local-news/utah-man-who-falsely-claimed-he-shot-charlie-kirk-booked-into-jail/819948/

This give us some insight on why that first man was arrested in the case. 

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Dutson, who was on duty during Kirk’s speech last week, said after the Turning Point USA founder was shot and people began running, Zinn approached him.

“[Zinn] immediately started yelling at me, ‘I shot him, now shoot me,’” Dutson wrote. “I could see both of his hands and could not see a weapon.”

After taking Zinn to the UVU Police Department, Dutson said Zinn asked for an attorney but also said “he did not shoot the individual (Kirk). He stated he did it to draw attention from the real shooter.”

George Zinn is pictured in a 2013 booking photo. (Salt Lake County)

After arriving at the hospital, Zinn told officers he “was glad he said he shot the individual so the real suspect could get away. He also stated to officers that he wanted to be a martyr for the person who was shot,” according to the affidavit.

 

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I will say I belong to a good group. Not like you fine people here. I was invited in which was cool. One of our founders, Peter Hyatt (OG of statement analysis) did sadly pass away earlier this year from a rare form of cancer but we have a lot of former police and FBI in the group. 
 

thank you guys for sharing insights though. We just don’t know a whole lot about Utah or how their procedures work. 

31 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

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Yeah typo. I’m trying hard not to give these shooters names and fucked up, the shooter obviously. Lol. 😂 

Posted
46 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

How familiar is everyone with all these death cults operating across the globe?  764?

hmm im only familiar with our very prominent American death cult 🤔😝

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I’d like to think if I was in an online group and someone said “hey i got a gun and I’m headed to go kill so and so” that I’d turn their asses in. I am not saying this is what happened here. How do you know if they are even serious?

 

I bring this up bc almost every shooter in the last decade has communicated their intentions online and it doesn’t seem like anyone took the hundreds of so doing this shit seriously at all, sad. 

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed Monday that he would have ordered flags lowered to half-staff following the assassination of a Minnesota Democratic state lawmaker this summer had he been asked by the state’s governor. But Trump at the time refused to even call Democratic Gov. Tim Walz to express his condolences, saying it would only “waste time.”


Trump made the remark during an unrelated Oval Office event as he defended his decision to lower U.S. flags after last week’s slaying of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

After announcing that he was deploying the National Guard to Memphis, Trump was asked Monday why he signed an order lowering flags nationwide after Kirk’s killing during an event in Utah, but didn’t do so after former Democratic state House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband were shot and killed in June.

Trump replied, “Well, if the governor had asked me to do that, I would have done that.”

“But the governor of Minnesota didn’t ask me,” the president said.


He continued, “I wouldn’t have thought of that. But I would have if somebody had asked me,” and added: “Had the governor asked me to do that, I would have done that gladly.”

Walz’s spokesperson did not immediately comment on the president’s remarks.

But Walz tweeted a video call for unity on Monday evening that featured references to Hortman’s assassination and the recent shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church that killed two students and injured 21 people. The video included feel-good scenes from the recent Minnesota State Fair but didn’t mention Kirk.


“The world feels crazy right now, but we won’t lose hope. We will get through this, together,” Walz said.

Trump’s assertions omitted the fact that — days after Hortman and her husband were shot dead in their home in the northern Minneapolis suburbs — the president was asked if he’d be calling Walz. Trump suggested that doing so would “waste time.”

Presidents often reach out to governors, mayors and other elected officials at times of tragedy, such as after mass killings or natural disasters, to offer condolences and, if needed, federal assistance. But Trump said then that Walz, the Democratic vice presidential nominee against Trump in last year’s election, was “slick.”


“I think the governor of Minnesota is so whacked out. I’m not calling him. Why would I call him?” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One in June. He then added, “The guy doesn’t have a clue” and “he’s a mess. So, you know, I could be nice and call him but why waste time?”

Teddy Tschann, a spokesperson for Walz, responded at the time with a statement saying, “Governor Walz wishes that President Trump would be a President for all Americans, but this tragedy isn’t about Trump or Walz.”

Trump also said Monday that he planned to attend Kirk’s funeral this weekend in Arizona and added that he’d likely be speaking.

“I guess I’ll say a few words, I don’t know,” he said. “But I guess I will.”

 

Posted
30 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

President Donald Trump claimed Monday that he would have ordered flags lowered to half-staff following the assassination of a Minnesota Democratic state lawmaker this summer had he been asked by the state’s governor. But Trump at the time refused to even call Democratic Gov. Tim Walz to express his condolences, saying it would only “waste time.”

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They literally asked about Hortman and he said "who?" 

Posted
4 hours ago, chainsaw said:

what about the escape?

It was covered upthread, but I'll add a video here.   He ran across the roof to a different spot where there was no staircase.  Perhaps he felt it was out of view.  It was so soon after the shooting that he probably could have gone back to the staircase and walked away.

He dropped down to the ground while apparently carrying a bag, appeared to hurt his leg a bit on the fall, and limped away.

 

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