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Territorial issues will be "key elements" in resolving the war.

Everything else is just noise.  Russia will demand that Ukraine give up its territory.  Ukraine will say no, our admin will say Ukraine is being unreasonable, and it all goes right back in the shitter again.

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8 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

They wouldn't and shouldn't. It would positively cripple Ukrainian war efforts. You want Ukraine to fight a ground war with Russia with winter around the bend? To forgo every advantage they have currently? You think that's a sound strategy? History out "front" should have told ya. 

It is pure shit drivel from Putin trying to show any sort of willingness to "negotiate" with Trump in order to delay/reduce/stop any further/additional sanctions/support/tarrifs. 

 

 

Well, I said airplanes and there is no way that Ukraine has air superiority unless you include drones. 

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we discussed this somewhere up thread, but so long as india is involved then failing russia doesn't just become a chinese mining colony. so it's a bit of a dilemma trying to pry russia and india further apart.

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Not loving what I'm reading about trump capitulating to putin

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-us-peace-deal-ukraine-vladimir-putin-trump-2110865

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The United States and Russia are aiming to secure a peace deal that would lock in Russia's gains in Ukraine following its invasion three and a half years ago, according to a report by Bloomberg.

The deal would mean Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky giving up the entire eastern Donbas, Crimea and parts of Luhansk and Donetsk, where fighting is still raging, unnamed sources told Bloomberg.

Newsweek reached out to the U.S. State Department, as well as the Russian and Ukrainian foreign affairs ministries for comment via email on Friday.

Why It Matters

If confirmed, such a deal would represent a huge win for Russian President Vladimir Putin, who launched the invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 with the stated goal of "liberating" the Donbas, despite concerns and condemnation from global leaders who viewed the war as unprovoked and unjustified.

The conflict has continued for years as Russia has struggled to make more substantial gains in Ukraine after its initial progress. However, peace deals have also stalled as Russian and Ukrainian leaders have not reached a consensus on key sticking points, such as whether Russia should keep its seized Ukrainian territory.

What To Know

Ukraine has not agreed to the proposed deal, Bloomberg reported. Putin and President Donald Trump are expected to meet for talks next week.

The U.S. is working to build support from Ukraine and allies in Europe, according to the report, which noted that is "far from certain."

Under the proposal, Ukraine would have to remove troops from the eastern Ukrainian regions of Luhansk and Donetsk, while Russia would end offensive operations in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, Bloomberg reported. The report also noted that it is unclear whether Moscow would give up any land it currently occupies.

What Happens Next?

Full details of the reported proposal have not been released ahead of an upcoming meeting between Trump and Putin. Trump said this week that Putin does not have to meet with Zelensky as a condition to their sit-down.

 

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8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Not loving what I'm reading about trump capitulating to putin

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-us-peace-deal-ukraine-vladimir-putin-trump-2110865

 

A story ripped from the pages of "DUH! A Journal of the Obvious."  This has been the play all along.  And it plays out with Ukraine saying "f that," the US saying "fine, fuck you, we're cutting off all aid," and many more Ukrainians dying in a war that will continue to rage with support from the rest of Europe, but not end without the "get it past the finish line" support that only the US can provide.

It's a recipe for failure, prolonged war, and more bloodshed.  And that recipe was fully baked months ago.

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3 hours ago, Captainant said:

Not loving what I'm reading about trump capitulating to putin

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-us-peace-deal-ukraine-vladimir-putin-trump-2110865

 

There are many extremely influential people in the admin who are legitimately pro-Russian and who want to see them win and the United States governed like Russia is now. There are only a few who are even close to pro-Ukraine.  
 

Honestly it’s really only Trump’s vanity that has prevented a total capitulation on this; Putin has played things pretty badly.  But it’s going to keep inching in Russia’s favor. Ukraine represents a threat to the MAGA ideologue’s worldview as a nation that democratically wishes to be governed normally and to embed in Western institutions. 

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Lukashenko signals end to his authoritarian run in Belarus

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5443919-belarus-lukashenko-final-term/

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After ruling the country for three decades, Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko told Time in an interview that he would not seek another term.

Lukashenko, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s right hand in Europe, has been in power since 1994 and was sworn in for his seventh term in March. His opponents deemed the January election undemocratic, but Lukashenko rejects any claim that he is an authoritarian ruler.

“These days, of course, I’m far from being Soviet, but Soviet principles, the best ones, live inside me,” Lukashenko told Time.

“Why should I reject them? Just like the Americans do not reject their history, it’s the same with me. That’s why we have this friendship with Russia, the closest kind of cooperation.”

Lukashenko has helped Russia conduct its war in Ukraine, heavily relies on Russia for its economy and is anti-European.

“Western Europe can get lost. Putin can disregard them. In this situation, if we reach a deal with the Americans, the Europeans won’t have any way out of it,” he told Time.

In 2022, Russian troops went through Belarusian territory to invade Ukraine. He also allowed his country to serve as a training ground for Russian troops, a storage locker for Russian ammunition and spoke with the Trump administration in favor of Putin.

He also told the Times that his son Nikolai was not next in the line of the succession, amid rumors that he was preparing him to take over the country.

In June 2023, Lukashenko presented himself as a peacemaker for helping to end an armed rebellion against Russian military generals led by Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the mercenary group Wagner. He proposed that Prigozhin take exile in Belarus rather than letting Putin take military action.

He has also cracked down on a number of popular protests. The most notable was in 2020, after citizens and international groups denounced that the election was stolen. He jailed his political opponents and imprisoned 65,000 protesters.

On Wednesday, he continued to conduct mass arrests of protesters who took part in anti-government rallies in the country and abroad.

In February, the White House secured the release of three political prisoners, including an American citizen and a Belarusian journalist.

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