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Take it for what it's worth, but an OU insider thinks that they have a shot at Evan Stewart if/when Bama flips Luther Burden. Bama is likely adding Burden's friend Jameson Williams, the tOSU transfer 

Obviously have no knowledge here, but attempts at softening the blow with “don’t worry about losing player X, Played Y will definitely hop on board soon” is one of the oldest insider tricks in the book.
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I work closely with a certain previously committed 5 star QB's father (hint: its Quinn Ewers, for those who haven't been following recruiting closely like I have) and chatted with him a bit this after

I find all of the angst about Murphy to be laughable. After Ewers, he's the guy I've been cheering for Texas to land for 3 weeks. Texas has a healthy QB room right now and that isn't going to change.

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6 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:


Obviously have no knowledge here, but attempts at softening the blow with “don’t worry about losing player X, Played Y will definitely hop on board soon” is one of the oldest insider tricks in the book.

Yeah, take it for what it's worth 

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12 minutes ago, PHLaggie said:

Or perhaps, my Ags should consider (taking up the habit of) Jameson.

If they haven’t taken it up in the 82 years since winning a national title or the 20 years since winning a conference title, then why start now?

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1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

If they haven’t taken it up in the 82 years since winning a national title or the 20 years since winning a conference title, then why start now?

I prefer single malt scotch and have been discovering bourbons. Maybe time to taste test some Irish stuff ;)

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12 minutes ago, Leanderman said:

"I prefer single malt scotch and have been discovering bourbons. Maybe time to taste test some Irish stuff ;)"

Try 12 year old Red Breast, you can thank me later.

Looks to be pretty awesome.

https://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/redbreast/redbreast-12-year-old-whiskey/

Thanks, will look for it once I'm done with my Kinsey 10 year old.

http://whiskeyenthusiasts.com/whiskey/kinsey-american-whiskey-10-year/

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Evan Stewart is the most “public” recruit I’ve seen in years in regards to NLI type shit. No I’m not worried about him ending up in Norman fucking Oklahoma 

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1 hour ago, RGBIII said:

Evan Stewart is the most “public” recruit I’ve seen in years in regards to NLI type shit. No I’m not worried about him ending up in Norman fucking Oklahoma 

The kid is a baller no question, but that kind of public persona can be good or bad for a football program depending on his experience or perceived slights etc. I am starting to wonder if the juice may not be worth the squeeze with him. 

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12 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

The kid is a baller no question, but that kind of public persona can be good or bad for a football program depending on his experience or perceived slights etc. I am starting to wonder if the juice may not be worth the squeeze with him. 

It is, hell his publicity makes it even more worth it IMO if we have our shit together

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49 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

The kid is a baller no question, but that kind of public persona can be good or bad for a football program depending on his experience or perceived slights etc. I am starting to wonder if the juice may not be worth the squeeze with him. 

No doubt we fucked it up. I'm sure Waddle would have been the same but Alabama gave him $80K and locked that shit down before it became a bidding war.

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30 minutes ago, D3zii said:

Please dnt start this, “Do we even want him, he may be a baller but not worth the trouble “  with Stewart

Said this dumb ish with Waddle and look now 

Waddle was great, but how many guys with wild ass recruitments actually panned out? Stewart is a different case certainly, but it is many times indicative of some instability. That's all Im saying. If he committed tomorrow I would be excited, but I would also be holding my breath.

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5 hours ago, Vertigo said:

The kid is a baller no question, but that kind of public persona can be good or bad for a football program depending on his experience or perceived slights etc. I am starting to wonder if the juice may not be worth the squeeze with him. 

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6 hours ago, Vertigo said:

Waddle was great, but how many guys with wild ass recruitments actually panned out? Stewart is a different case certainly, but it is many times indicative of some instability. That's all Im saying. If he committed tomorrow I would be excited, but I would also be holding my breath.

It hasn't exactly been wild so far. Its been pretty single-minded after the UT breakup. Another commit/decommit go-round would take it there.

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(Mike Roach) The Stampede: Recruiting scoop from the week in Houston

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— I feel better today about Kelvin Banks than I have in a while when it comes to Texas, but there are still a few things that give me pause. I think Texas has done an excellent job of recruiting him since Kyle Flood arrived in Austin, and there’s a lot of confidence that the Longhorns are in a good position with him. That said, Texas A&M has always been a threat to land him and LSU is a school I’m keeping my eye on when it comes to him. Banks is a Louisiana native and has always had an affinity for the Tigers despite growing up watching Texas.

Visits will be the ultimate game changer.  One thing I did find interesting is the way Banks spoke about Austin.  In the past, Banks expressed the desire for a small town at the next level, but when I talked to him last week he raved about Austin as a city.  Texas has the opportunity to really drive things home on June 18, and they will have all the right pieces there to help.  I’m still reminded of a source close to Banks who feels he’s unpredictable in his thinking.  Texas needs to stay the course here because they have some favorable voices around him including former Longhorn Kenny Harrison who is the head coach at Summer Creek.

— Banks’ good friend and Humble native Kam Dewberry has come a long way in a year’s time with Texas. This time last year, Texas probably wasn’t even in the Top 6 or 7 schools for him, but the introduction of Kyle Flood changed the outlook of this race. As Dewberry told me last week, no school is recruiting him harder than Texas right now. Dewberry recently released a Top 5, and though he didn’t mention LSU to me initially, he told me recently that the Tigers might get an official visit as well. If that did happen, it would likely come at the expense of the Texas visit. Dewberry told me that it had nothing to do with Texas’ standing and more to do with the fact that he’s been to Texas more than any school and is incredibly familiar with the program. Right now, Ohio State and Alabama should be the worry for Texas as both have been more proven winners and developers over the last few years. Still, Dewberry remains high on Texas and will visit a few times this summer unofficially.

— The recruitment of Harold Perkins sounds like it’s starting to get a little bit crazy. While it looked like this could come down to an in-state battle, there are starting to be some twists and turns. LSU is starting to make a little more noise and Perkins is growing closer with fellow five-star Omari Abor. Texas will continue to stay on him, but there are a lot of dynamics at play here. This recruitment looks like it will go all the way to the end of the cycle, so there’s still plenty of time. Intel seems to change by the week with Perkins, but it sounds like several out of state programs are starting to make a move. Nick Harris has a good feel for this recruitment and will have Horns247 on top of it.

— Jaylon Guilbeau said he might take a few visits this summer, but he doesn’t have anything scheduled outside of Texas and said he remains locked in on the Longhorns. While Guilbeau originally committed to Texas because of a relationship with Jay Valai, he’s been happy with the way things are going with the new coaching staff. Guilbeau told me he’s been in contact with Terry Joseph often and he’s been able to form a pretty strong bond with him. Guilbeau will make an official visit to Texas in June and it seems he’s pretty solid with his commitment right now.

— Beaumont Westbrook DB Bryce Anderson was supposed to make a spring commitment, but the opening of visits in the summer pushed his timeline back. Texas surged early in the spring with the four-star prospect and are trying to hold on to that momentum into the summer. It sounds like the Longhorns are still in a strong position to land him. Anderson will make an unofficial visit to Austin on June 18. His parents won’t be able to make the trip that weekend so he’s going to wait to take his official visit to Texas. That visit could even be pushed to the fall depending on when Anderson makes his commitment. If I had to guess right now, I’d say that it’s likely Anderson makes a decision before his senior season. Texas still seems like the pick to win out but they will have to make it through his other visits.

— Denver Harris has his official visits locked in for the summer, and Texas is on the list to get one. Harris will be on the trip with the other Texas commits and a big group of visitors. The Longhorns seem to be in a good position as I’ve been told that Harris’s mother likes Austin and wouldn’t mind if he stayed close to home. Alabama, Texas A&M and LSU are the other three schools of note here. The Crimson Tide has been led by an effort from head coach Nick Saban who is putting in the heavy lifting recruiting him. For Texas, Terry Joseph and Jeff Banks are all over this one with Steve Sarkisian pitching in as well. Alabama is surely going to be pushing its stellar weekend at the NFL draft while LSU remains a school that Harris has always been interested in.

— There isn’t much new to report on Texas commit Jaydon Blue, but it seems like he’s pretty locked in with his commitment. Blue told me that Texas is the only school he intends to visit despite the fact that a few others are still coming at him. Blue’s focus seems to be on his final season of high school football as he looks to chase a state title before graduating early to enroll during the spring. Blue told me he’s forming a good bond with the rest of the commits in the class and is also talking often with 2023 running back commit Rueben Owens. With multiple commits looking to take visits this summer, consider it good news that Blue seems pretty locked in.

 

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I hate the common phrase "Win and recruiting will take care of itself," but it's hard not to see that being the case this year. If sark can jump out of the gate at 3-0 and the coaching appears competent I think Texas will take off on the national recruiting scene. As we see in Bball recruiting right now, the NLI stuff is a big time game changer for Texas. Austin is the ultimate sell for making money.

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2 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

I hate the common phrase "Win and recruiting will take care of itself," but it's hard not to see that being the case this year. If sark can jump out of the gate at 3-0 and the coaching appears competent I think Texas will take off on the national recruiting scene. As we see in Bball recruiting right now, the NLI stuff is a big time game changer for Texas. Austin is the ultimate sell for making money.

I mean the phrase on surface is dumb but the reality is the talent is siphoning to the teams consistently in the CFB playoffs so technically winning and making the CFB playoff will allow recruiting to take care of itself.

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9 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

I hate the common phrase "Win and recruiting will take care of itself," but it's hard not to see that being the case this year. If sark can jump out of the gate at 3-0 and the coaching appears competent I think Texas will take off on the national recruiting scene. As we see in Bball recruiting right now, the NLI stuff is a big time game changer for Texas. Austin is the ultimate sell for making money.

History shows performance in a given season impacts the next year’s recruiting, so while the phrase is true, winning will help us with 23 recruiting much more than 22. If we’re going to land elite guys and have a strong class this year, it will likely already be in the works before the season starts.  

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I only check this thread to see if there are any ewers updates (Lol). He probably won’t flip back but I do find it interesting that he is pretty quiet on social media. I know he has tOSU stuff on his Twitter but not much. I will hold out hope until he signs on NSD1.

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16 minutes ago, utexas8 said:

I only check this thread to see if there are any ewers updates (Lol). He probably won’t flip back but I do find it interesting that he is pretty quiet on social media. I know he has tOSU stuff on his Twitter but not much. I will hold out hope until he signs on NSD1.

The question is: How serious is this flirtation between Texas and Archie Manning? If its formal then you honestly don't take ewers, if not then you try to get Ewers to flip during the season.

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Athletic: Florida State, Penn State, Texas and others — programs that need a 2022 recruiting bounce back: ‘The 5’

 

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2. Texas

2021
15
2
0.8924
2020
8
1
0.9176
2019
3
1
0.9119
2018
3
1
0.9216
2017
25
2
0.8758
2016
7
1
0.9007

Realistic expectation: Top-10 classes

Current ranking in the 2022 class: No. 8, No. 2 in Big 12, .9340

The buzz: Tom Herman wasn’t fired because he couldn’t recruit. His tenure at Texas didn’t work out because he failed to get the most out of his ultra-talented roster on the field. So when you think about what Steve Sarkisian’s main task is at Texas right out of the gate, it’s all about talent development and creating NFL draft picks. Given that’s the case, you might be surprised to see Texas’ inclusion on this list.

Well, the Longhorns are here because this is a new era, and they are coming off a recruiting cycle in which they finished at No. 15. This is a program that averaged a ranking of 4.6 in the three years before the 2021 cycle. And now Sarkisian has to hit the ground running in a new state and keep Texas as a place that consistently has the most talented roster in the Big 12. Though there are plenty of built-in advantages to being the Texas head coach — namely being the state school in one of the biggest and most talented states in the country — Oklahoma has also upped its game on the recruiting trail.

Texas needs to finish in the top 10 — at worst — of the recruiting rankings this year. Development and results on the field are important. That goes without saying. But Sark has to keep the best players from leaving the state on a consistent basis, and it’s important that he starts strong in his first season, especially at a program that signed a subpar class in the most recent cycle.

 

 

 

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Florida State, Penn State, Texas and others — programs that need a 2022 recruiting bounce back: ‘The 5’

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If you’re interested in finding out where the best players in America are currently committed, it’s as simple as going to 247Sports and looking at the 2022 composite player rankings.

But there is a difference between “best” and “most important” or “most influential.”

There is nuance to recruiting, particularly in the context of what individual commitments mean to programs. One program could land a five-star prospect and throw a parade; another team’s fan base might immediately ask when the next five-star prospect is committing. Recruiting is complex.

Every month we do a piece called “The 5,” in which we break down five things that give further understanding to the current situation in the world of talent accumulation. This month, we’re looking at the five programs that need to sign bounce-back classes during the 2022 recruiting cycle.

1. Florida State

2021
23
4
0.8827
2020
22
4
0.8796
2019
18
2
0.8909
2018
11
3
0.9091
2017
6
1
0.9110
2016
3
1
0.9171

Realistic expectation: Top-10 classes

Current ranking in the 2022 class: No. 10, No. 1 in ACC, .9159

The buzz: Florida State’s slide from the top of college football could technically be traced back to some very talented teams underperforming, but if you want to understand why the Seminoles aren’t competing for conference titles anymore, just take a look at the recruiting drop-off the program has seen since it signed the No. 6 class in 2017. Every year since has been worse than the year before, culminating with the No. 23 class in 2021. In the 10-year stretch from 2008 through 2017, Florida State signed 30 five-star prospects. From 2018 through 2021 (Mike Norvell’s first year), it signed zero. See the trend?

If Florida State wants to return to national prominence, it has to get back into the top 10 — or even the top five — of the recruiting rankings. It wasn’t too far in the distant past that the Seminoles regularly finished in the top three. The good news? Florida State is putting together its best class since 2017, backed by five-star cornerback Travis Hunter of Suwanee (Ga.) Collins Hill. Hunter is an eccentric personality who is taking it upon himself to turn around Florida State’s fortunes, and it’s working. After signing zero top-100 prospects in the 2021 class, Florida State already has three in 2022 in Hunter, five-star athlete Sam McCall of Lakeland (Fla.) Lake Gibson and four-star quarterback A.J. Duffy of Bradenton (Fla.) IMG, who committed last week.

2. Texas

2021
15
2
0.8924
2020
8
1
0.9176
2019
3
1
0.9119
2018
3
1
0.9216
2017
25
2
0.8758
2016
7
1
0.9007

Realistic expectation: Top-10 classes

Current ranking in the 2022 class: No. 8, No. 2 in Big 12, .9340

The buzz: Tom Herman wasn’t fired because he couldn’t recruit. His tenure at Texas didn’t work out because he failed to get the most out of his ultra-talented roster on the field. So when you think about what Steve Sarkisian’s main task is at Texas right out of the gate, it’s all about talent development and creating NFL draft picks. Given that’s the case, you might be surprised to see Texas’ inclusion on this list.

Well, the Longhorns are here because this is a new era, and they are coming off a recruiting cycle in which they finished at No. 15. This is a program that averaged a ranking of 4.6 in the three years before the 2021 cycle. And now Sarkisian has to hit the ground running in a new state and keep Texas as a place that consistently has the most talented roster in the Big 12. Though there are plenty of built-in advantages to being the Texas head coach — namely being the state school in one of the biggest and most talented states in the country — Oklahoma has also upped its game on the recruiting trail.

Texas needs to finish in the top 10 — at worst — of the recruiting rankings this year. Development and results on the field are important. That goes without saying. But Sark has to keep the best players from leaving the state on a consistent basis, and it’s important that he starts strong in his first season, especially at a program that signed a subpar class in the most recent cycle.

3. Penn State

2021
21
6
0.8907
2020
15
3
0.8954
2019
12
2
0.9101
2018
6
2
0.9170
2017
15
3
0.8832
2016
20
4
0.8808

Realistic expectation: Top-10 classes

Current ranking in the 2022 class: No. 6, No. 2 in Big Ten, .9201

The buzz: Throughout most of the James Franklin era, Penn State has finished in the No. 12-15 range in the recruiting rankings, which is pretty solid. But the 2018 class that included Micah Parsons — who was just selected in the first round of the NFL Draft — gives Nittany Lions fans hope that the program can be a thorn in Ohio State’s side in the Big Ten East. If you ask Franklin, the goal is to win a national title, and signing classes like his 2018 haul is what it will take for Penn State to reach that potential.

There’s no nice way to say this: Penn State’s 2021 class fell way short of Franklin’s standard and Penn State’s expectations. Even during a pandemic year when kids weren’t visiting other schools, Penn State got smoked in Pennsylvania, signing only one top-10 player in its own state. It’s been written about time and time again, but it’s still surprising every time you read that statistic. That can’t happen again during the Franklin era, especially not while Ohio State is signing better classes under Ryan Day than even Urban Meyer assembled.

The good news? Penn State is off to a terrific start in 2022. It already has commitments from three top-10 players in the state of Pennsylvania and is expected to land the second- and third-ranked prospects in the state in five-star running back Nicholas Singleton of Reading (Pa.) Governor Mifflin and four-star cornerback Keenan Nelson Jr. of Philadelphia St. Joseph’s Prep. Both are ranked among the top 120 players nationally.

Penn State needs to ride the wave and put the 2021 class permanently in the rearview mirror.

4. Arizona

2021
77
11
0.8353
2020
59
11
0.8372
2019
56
11
0.8477
2018
61
11
0.8483
2017
45
10
0.8411
2016
48
9
0.8408

Realistic expectation: Top-40 classes

Current ranking in the 2022 class: No. 29, No. 3 in Pac-12, .8499

The buzz: The recruiting results from the Kevin Sumlin era were completely unacceptable. And if you break down what went wrong under Sumlin, effort from the coaching staff is a real question, which is probably the reason the Wildcats have moved on to a new head coach in Jedd Fisch. Arizona has kept virtually no talent home and rarely goes out and makes a splash in its secondary recruiting territory of California the way its rival, Arizona State, has done under Herm Edwards. The No. 77 ranking in the 2021 cycle is an eyesore, and when you peel back the curtain, it gets worse. Arizona failed to sign even one top-1,000 prospect in that class, which is staggeringly bad for any Power 5 team.

Tucson is a neat little town, and the state of Arizona is becoming increasingly more talented. The Wildcats are also very close to California, which is brimming with top-1,000 recruits. When you factor in Arizona’s location, recently renovated stadium and facilities, uniforms and student experience, there is absolutely no reason it should be one of the worst programs in the Power 5.

Fisch has done a nice job so far of instilling some excitement into Arizona football. He is approaching this job with real enthusiasm and has connected with the community through actions like bringing back NFL star and former Wildcat Rob Gronkowski for the spring game. So far in the 2022 class, Arizona has five commitments from top-1,000 players and one from a top-500 player. In early May, the Wildcats’ class is already immeasurably better than last year’s group.

Arizona isn’t the mecca of football. You’re not expected to win the conference on a consistent basis. But Arizona should be able to pop onto the scene every now and then with a 10-win season and a trip to the Fiesta Bowl, as it did in 2014 under Rich Rodriguez.

This is a critical class for Fisch right out of the gate. His hope: To make sure Arizona doesn’t turn into a black hole of mediocrity in the Power 5.

5. Washington

2021
36
6
0.8793
2020
17
2
0.8876
2019
16
2
0.9010
2018
16
3
0.9021
2017
22
5
0.8845
2016
29
6
0.8742

Realistic expectation: Top-20 classes

Current ranking in the 2022 class: No. 56, No. 10 in Pac-12, .8983

The buzz: In last year’s recruiting cycle, Washington signed five-star quarterback Sam Huard from the Seattle area. When we look back on this class, maybe it will be deemed a big success. Finding an elite-level quarterback is always the hardest thing for any coach to do. And yes, the ranking was affected by the fact that Washington’s class was small, with only 15 members.

But when you think about Washington’s class and the potential it had, you’re left wanting more. The Seattle area was home to three top-10 national prospects, and the Huskies landed one. They lost out on five-star receiver Emeka Egbuka of Steilacoom Kennedy Catholic, who signed with Ohio State, and five-star defensive tackle J.T. Tuimoloau of Sammamish (Wash.) Eastside Catholic, who has yet to sign (but doesn’t seem as though he’s headed to Washington).

In addition, two other really good players from Washington left the state to sign with Pac-12 rivals — four-star linebacker Julien Simon of Tacoma Lincoln (USC) and four-star wide receiver Junior Alexander of Burien Kennedy Catholic (Arizona State). Jimmy Lake is known for his recruiting chops, so the 2021 class doesn’t quite cut it for a program that views itself as a Pac-12 contender.

Washington has a chance to make it right in 2022 in the recruitment of five-star offensive tackle Josh Cornerly Jr. of Seattle Rainier Beach, the No. 15 overall player and the No. 2 offensive tackle in the country. A top-20 class is a must for Lake in this cycle.

 

 

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1 hour ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

I hate the common phrase "Win and recruiting will take care of itself," but it's hard not to see that being the case this year. If sark can jump out of the gate at 3-0 and the coaching appears competent I think Texas will take off on the national recruiting scene. As we see in Bball recruiting right now, the NLI stuff is a big time game changer for Texas. Austin is the ultimate sell for making money.

3-0 is wishful thinking with ULL and Arkansas right out of the gate. Sark can't afford the 'win and recruiting handles itself' mentality in his first year, and I doubt that'll ever be his staff's approach to recruiting tbh. The 'coaching appears competent' idea is almost always guided strictly by results on the field anyway, no one looks too closely at coaching issues when you're winning (see: Sugar Bowl against UGA)

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19 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

The question is: How serious is this flirtation between Texas and Archie Manning? If its formal then you honestly don't take ewers, if not then you try to get Ewers to flip during the season.

Stop. There is no situation where you "don't take Ewers".

 

 

You take Ewers because he is the better player. 

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2 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Are you fucking kidding me right now?

They're solid teams, and people have been badly discounting ULaLa on the football board, but 3-0 is a perfectly reasonable expectation. 

I get worrying about Louisiana but the Arkansas fear is quit unfounded.

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I don't think people like satya realize how bad Arkansas is at QB rn. Reading between the lines, they miss Feleipe Franks of all guys because both KJ Jefferson and Hornsby are abhorrent passers. Both can surely run, but baby Briles is visibly frustrated with what he has to work with.

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10 minutes ago, golfclap said:

Stop. There is no situation where you "don't take Ewers".

 

 

You take Ewers because he is the better player. 

You take the best QB you can every year. I don't want to miss out on Andrew Luck again.

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5 minutes ago, George Clooney said:

I don't think people like satya realize how bad Arkansas is at QB rn. Reading between the lines, they miss Feleipe Franks of all guys because both KJ Jefferson and Hornsby are abhorrent passers. Both can surely run, but baby Briles is visibly frustrated with what he has to work with.

i hope they suck as bad you think..I bought tickets for Fayetnam last week

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5 minutes ago, George Clooney said:

...baby Briles is visibly frustrated with what he has to work with.

Guess he needs to start selling those white girls again.

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