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Time travel has been introduced to the simulation.  What a plot twist.

 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dyv3da/qanon-has-a-disturbing-takeover-plot-to-eliminate-elected-officials

 

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A known grifter and QAnon supporter who claims she can time-travel has amassed an army of thousands of loyal followers to carry out a plot to oust elected officials across the country and replace them with QAnon believers—and she’s using game-streaming platform Twitch to do it.

Terpsichore Maras-Lindeman has spent the last four months building an intricate network of groups in all 50 states, urging followers to dig up information about elected officials and cough up hundreds of dollars to take part in her scheme.

 

 

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Maras-Lindeman has promised her followers that the plot will bring about “retaliation” for what she believes was a stolen election last November, and ultimately see the return of former president Donald Trump to the White House. 

All the while, Maras-Lindeman, who streams under the name Tore Says, has grown her subscriber base massively, raking in tens of thousands of dollars since the beginning of the year. She even managed to convince her supporters to cough up over $87,400 in a crowdfunding campaign, which she used to buy a new Tesla.

 

 

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Maras-Lindeman is part of a growing ecosystem of grifters and hucksters who are leveraging the widespread belief that Trump’s election loss was somehow orchestrated by shadowy figures and companies tied to the Democrats. This so-called “Big Lie” has taken hold within the mainstream Republican Party, and fringe figures like Maras-Lindeman have succeeded in carving out a niche that’s proving to be highly lucrative.

When President Joe Biden was inaugurated on January 20, QAnon supporters were distraught—after all, they were promised that would never happen. 

Building the army on Twitch

For some it was the final straw, but others, who had spent years devoted to the conspiracy movement, needed something to latch onto—and Maras-Lindeman provided that.

A week after Biden’s inauguration, Maras-Lindeman outlined an audacious plan to oust sitting lawmakers across the country and replace them with Q believers who were tired of having elections stolen from them.

And they were going to begin with Ohio.

“Ohio’s gonna be lit, next week we’re gonna be setting some serious fires,” she told viewers on her Twitch channel, ToreSays, on Jan. 29. Then, she issued a warning to the lawmakers: “You want a great reset? Here it is. We’re gonna do it our way, and that’s by eliminating you.”

The plan was relatively simple: Maras-Lindeman claimed that vote-counting equipment used in states across the country were not properly certified and that as a result, all elected officials—both Democrat and Republican—were illegitimate. This opens the door for anyone to file what’s known as a “quo warranto” lawsuit, an arcane legal action that requires a person to show by what warrant an office or franchise is held, claimed, or exercised.

But so far neither Maras-Lindeman nor any of her supporters has provided evidence to back up their claims that the voting machines are invalid.

After filing the lawsuit, any resident of a particular state can then justifiably oust an elected official from the same district and replace them until a new election was held. 

“From what I can discern, the final step is meeting at the Ohio Supreme Court, where they’ll look to have Ms. Lindeman filing their election fraud warrants, in an effort to remove the ‘illegally elected’ representatives, and take their place,” Genevieve Oh, a livestreaming analyst who has been closely tracking Maras-Lindeman’s activity on Twitch for months, told VICE News.

“Looking at her followers’ messages and reactions, she seems to have legitimately convinced her viewers they’re going to take Ohio Senate and House of Representatives’ seats through this movement,” Oh added.

So far over 60 people in Ohio alone have signed up to take part in this mass lawsuit filing, according to an online spreadsheet used by the group and seen by VICE News.

Over the course of the next four months, Maras-Lindeman’s support base grew dramatically on her Twitch channel. In parallel, she organized state-specific groups on the encrypted messaging app Telegram to allow citizens in those states to coordinate their efforts and get people to sign up to challenge elected officials. 

Each state channel has at least one administrator who relays Maras-Lindeman’s instructions to the group, while in-person Zoom calls with hundreds of people have also been organized.  

While some of the groups, like those in Ohio and Wisconsin, have over 500 members, some others had just a few dozen participants.

The campaigns have been given different names. In Ohio the plot to unseat elected officials is called “Operation 1776” while in Wisconsin the campaign is called “Operation Reigns.”

A document shared with the Wisconsin group and viewed by VICE News gives those involved a rundown of what the campaign hopes to achieve.

“The majority of us are not ‘claiming’ a seat with the intention of remaining in it long-term (although I think many of us should consider this), nor are we attempting a long term coup; we simply want to hold their place just long enough to prove our point and assure WI voting is safe, secure, and transparent. If they (those ‘elected’) are TRULY OUR servants (and our actions will remind them they are), they should then support our effort to bring upon the changes required to institute a fair election process so they may (or may not) be re-elected.”

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There are also side channels on Telegram, where dedicated supporters began digging up and sharing personal information about the elected officials in their states, including phone numbers and email addresses, which are then used to harass those officials with phone calls and emails.

VICE News monitored the activity on two Telegram channels linked to “Operation 1776” and contacted all those who have signaled their intention to challenge lawmakers in the state. Only one responded but refused to answer questions unless VICE News publicized his YouTube channel.

Maras-Lindeman didn’t respond to repeated requests for comment, and immediately after VICE News first contacted her, we were kicked out of the Ohio-focused Telegram channels.  

Initially Maras-Lindeman suggested she would lead an in-person meetup of supporters who would walk to Ohio’s Supreme Court and file the quo warranto writs en masse, and that it would happen almost immediately. But that hasn’t happened yet. Repeatedly over the course of the last few months, she has deflected and delayed, telling followers she needs to get everything in place before filing the lawsuits so it won’t be a waste of time and effort.

That became much harder last month when a group called “We The People” filed a quo warranto lawsuit in Arizona, with 19 people demanding that 19 elected officials —or “inadvertent usurpers,” as they were called in the filing—vacate their seats.

Maras-Lindeman subsequently claimed credit for the Arizona filing. On her Telegram channel se shared a messages that said: “So proud of my team in AZ. We worked hard to get this out there and all because @ToreSays taught us how to fight.”

But some of Maras-Lindeman’s supporters reacted angrily, demanding that the lawsuits in their states were filed immediately, But rather than giving specifics, Maras-Lindeman has retreated from her earlier bolder claims about what will happen in Ohio, now preferring to tease her followers with hints about what is to come.

“So now we’re gonna talk about our lawsuit, without talking about our lawsuit,” she said during a livestream on Twitch on May 11. “I want you to pay attention to this and we’ll talk about it when it’s signed, sealed and delivered around June 10th, hopefully. It could take plus or minus a couple of days.”

Despite repeatedly failing to deliver on promises, Maras-Lindeman’s popularity continues to grow—alongside her ability to earn money from her subscribers.

Maras-Lindeman first gained notoriety in the right-wing conspiracy ecosystem when she appeared in the conspiracy-laden documentary “Shadowgate,” made by former InfoWars reporter Millie Weaver, who also streams on Twitch.

Prior to that, Maras-Lindeman’s past appears to be a patchwork of lies, half-truths, and contradictions.

For example, her profile on Together We Served, an online veteran community, stated that she reached the rank of lieutenant, served in the combat zones of Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq, and in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and was awarded multiple medals, including a Purple Heart. According to a Washington Post investigation, Maras-Lindeman did serve in the Navy, but for less than a year more than two decades ago. Maras-Lindeman told the Post she didn’t know who created that now-deleted profile.

Since leaving the military, the 42-year-old claims to have held various intelligence contractor positions. In the “Shadowgate” documentary, she claims to have carried out a notorious 2008 intrusion into the State Department’s passport records on then-presidential candidates Barack Obama, John McCain, and Hillary Clinton. She even claimed she carried out the intrusion on the direct orders of John Brennan, who would later go on to become director of the CIA.

Brennan has denied any knowledge of Maras-Lindeman. and like most of her claims about her work as an intelligence contractor, she says they can’t be verified because of the covert nature of the work she does.

But what may be most worrying to the thousands of people who are giving her money every month is that she has already been found guilty of ripping people off by misrepresenting what the money she is collecting is for.

In 2018, a judge in North Dakota, where she was living at the time, ordered her to pay $25,000 after she was found to have used money collected—which she claimed was to fund homeless shelters and wreaths for veterans’ graves—on purchases for herself at McDonald’s, QVC, and elsewhere.

Maras-Lindeman has appealed the court’s decision to North Dakota’s Supreme Court, claiming bureaucratic failings and identity theft caused the confusion.

Despite her questionable background, Maras-Lindeman has managed to become a celebrity within the world of election-fraud hucksters, partnering with Weaver to produce more Shadowgate documentaries, and fostering close ties with former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne, who’s bankrolling the controversial audit in Maricopa County.

And she is converting that notoriety into hard cash. 

Maras-Lindeman only began broadcasting on Twitch on July 20 last year, at first averaging just nine viewers, according to data collected by Oh and shared with VICE News. 

By August, her mix of QAnon and election fraud conspiracies had begun to gain a following and she was averaging 390 concurrent viewers. By the end of the year, when she was being quoted in election fraud lawsuits by “Kraken lawyer” Sidney Powell, Maras-Lindeman’s streams had reached 1,000 concurrent viewers. 

And last month, she was averaging over 4,000 viewers on each livestream, peaking at over 5,000 concurrent viewers on May 10, the day the quo warranto lawsuit was filed in Arizona.

Maras-Lindeman now has 18,300 subscribers to her Twitch channel, and since December alone, those subscribers have brought in $35,000, according to analysis by Oh. And because she’s a verified partner on Twitch, she gets to keep 70% of that.

While her subscriber base may seem low compared to the hundreds of thousands of followers some QAnon influencers have, Maras-Lindeman has an incredibly engaged and loyal audience, especially when compared to other Twitch streamers. 

Take, for example, Lisa Vannatta, a gamer who livestreams on Twitch as STPeach. She currently has over 1 million followers on Twitch, a following that rises to over 3 million when you add in her other social media platforms. She’s been streaming full-time for more than six years and generally gets about one-fifth the level of live-viewership that Maras-Lindeman does.

Despite the fact that she shares conspiracy theories, is orchestrating a nationwide uprising, claims to be able to travel to the future, and features a burning Q as part of her logo, Maras-Lindeman’s channel continues to be verified and is listed among the most popular Twitch channels anywhere in the world.

“One might be misled by her very low follower count, [but it is] utterly irrelevant and not indicative of her reach whatsoever,” Oh told VICE News. “Whenever broadcasting, Lindeman—the QAnon believer with highly visible Q-adjacent iconography in her on-platform content—is in top 150 Global Channels, top 75 English Channels on the most popular, Amazon owned, livestreaming service in the world, significantly surpassing career broadcasters with millions of on-platform followers in terms of reach.”

Twitch did not respond to VICE News’ request for comment about Maras-Lindeman’s activity.

 

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Time travel has been introduced to the simulation.  What a plot twist.

 

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Maras-Lindeman is part of a growing ecosystem of grifters and hucksters who are leveraging the widespread belief that Trump’s election loss was somehow orchestrated by shadowy figures and companies tied to the Democrats. This so-called “Big Lie” has taken hold within the mainstream Republican Party, and fringe figures like Maras-Lindeman have succeeded in carving out a niche that’s proving to be highly lucrative.

When President Joe Biden was inaugurated on January 20, QAnon supporters were distraught—after all, they were promised that would never happen. 

Building the army on Twitch

For some it was the final straw, but others, who had spent years devoted to the conspiracy movement, needed something to latch onto—and Maras-Lindeman provided that.

A week after Biden’s inauguration, Maras-Lindeman outlined an audacious plan to oust sitting lawmakers across the country and replace them with Q believers who were tired of having elections stolen from them.

And they were going to begin with Ohio.

“Ohio’s gonna be lit, next week we’re gonna be setting some serious fires,” she told viewers on her Twitch channel, ToreSays, on Jan. 29. Then, she issued a warning to the lawmakers: “You want a great reset? Here it is. We’re gonna do it our way, and that’s by eliminating you.”

The plan was relatively simple: Maras-Lindeman claimed that vote-counting equipment used in states across the country were not properly certified and that as a result, all elected officials—both Democrat and Republican—were illegitimate. This opens the door for anyone to file what’s known as a “quo warranto” lawsuit, an arcane legal action that requires a person to show by what warrant an office or franchise is held, claimed, or exercised.

But so far neither Maras-Lindeman nor any of her supporters has provided evidence to back up their claims that the voting machines are invalid.

After filing the lawsuit, any resident of a particular state can then justifiably oust an elected official from the same district and replace them until a new election was held. 

“From what I can discern, the final step is meeting at the Ohio Supreme Court, where they’ll look to have Ms. Lindeman filing their election fraud warrants, in an effort to remove the ‘illegally elected’ representatives, and take their place,” Genevieve Oh, a livestreaming analyst who has been closely tracking Maras-Lindeman’s activity on Twitch for months, told VICE News.

“Looking at her followers’ messages and reactions, she seems to have legitimately convinced her viewers they’re going to take Ohio Senate and House of Representatives’ seats through this movement,” Oh added.

So far over 60 people in Ohio alone have signed up to take part in this mass lawsuit filing, according to an online spreadsheet used by the group and seen by VICE News.

Over the course of the next four months, Maras-Lindeman’s support base grew dramatically on her Twitch channel. In parallel, she organized state-specific groups on the encrypted messaging app Telegram to allow citizens in those states to coordinate their efforts and get people to sign up to challenge elected officials. 

Each state channel has at least one administrator who relays Maras-Lindeman’s instructions to the group, while in-person Zoom calls with hundreds of people have also been organized.  

While some of the groups, like those in Ohio and Wisconsin, have over 500 members, some others had just a few dozen participants.

The campaigns have been given different names. In Ohio the plot to unseat elected officials is called “Operation 1776” while in Wisconsin the campaign is called “Operation Reigns.”

A document shared with the Wisconsin group and viewed by VICE News gives those involved a rundown of what the campaign hopes to achieve.

“The majority of us are not ‘claiming’ a seat with the intention of remaining in it long-term (although I think many of us should consider this), nor are we attempting a long term coup; we simply want to hold their place just long enough to prove our point and assure WI voting is safe, secure, and transparent. If they (those ‘elected’) are TRULY OUR servants (and our actions will remind them they are), they should then support our effort to bring upon the changes required to institute a fair election process so they may (or may not) be re-elected.”

Digging up the dirt

There are also side channels on Telegram, where dedicated supporters began digging up and sharing personal information about the elected officials in their states, including phone numbers and email addresses, which are then used to harass those officials with phone calls and emails.

VICE News monitored the activity on two Telegram channels linked to “Operation 1776” and contacted all those who have signaled their intention to challenge lawmakers in the state. Only one responded but refused to answer questions unless VICE News publicized his YouTube channel.

Maras-Lindeman didn’t respond to repeated requests for comment, and immediately after VICE News first contacted her, we were kicked out of the Ohio-focused Telegram channels.  

Initially Maras-Lindeman suggested she would lead an in-person meetup of supporters who would walk to Ohio’s Supreme Court and file the quo warranto writs en masse, and that it would happen almost immediately. But that hasn’t happened yet. Repeatedly over the course of the last few months, she has deflected and delayed, telling followers she needs to get everything in place before filing the lawsuits so it won’t be a waste of time and effort.

That became much harder last month when a group called “We The People” filed a quo warranto lawsuit in Arizona, with 19 people demanding that 19 elected officials —or “inadvertent usurpers,” as they were called in the filing—vacate their seats.

Maras-Lindeman subsequently claimed credit for the Arizona filing. On her Telegram channel se shared a messages that said: “So proud of my team in AZ. We worked hard to get this out there and all because @ToreSays taught us how to fight.”

But some of Maras-Lindeman’s supporters reacted angrily, demanding that the lawsuits in their states were filed immediately, But rather than giving specifics, Maras-Lindeman has retreated from her earlier bolder claims about what will happen in Ohio, now preferring to tease her followers with hints about what is to come.

“So now we’re gonna talk about our lawsuit, without talking about our lawsuit,” she said during a livestream on Twitch on May 11. “I want you to pay attention to this and we’ll talk about it when it’s signed, sealed and delivered around June 10th, hopefully. It could take plus or minus a couple of days.”

Despite repeatedly failing to deliver on promises, Maras-Lindeman’s popularity continues to grow—alongside her ability to earn money from her subscribers.

Maras-Lindeman first gained notoriety in the right-wing conspiracy ecosystem when she appeared in the conspiracy-laden documentary “Shadowgate,” made by former InfoWars reporter Millie Weaver, who also streams on Twitch.

Prior to that, Maras-Lindeman’s past appears to be a patchwork of lies, half-truths, and contradictions.

For example, her profile on Together We Served, an online veteran community, stated that she reached the rank of lieutenant, served in the combat zones of Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq, and in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and was awarded multiple medals, including a Purple Heart. According to a Washington Post investigation, Maras-Lindeman did serve in the Navy, but for less than a year more than two decades ago. Maras-Lindeman told the Post she didn’t know who created that now-deleted profile.

Since leaving the military, the 42-year-old claims to have held various intelligence contractor positions. In the “Shadowgate” documentary, she claims to have carried out a notorious 2008 intrusion into the State Department’s passport records on then-presidential candidates Barack Obama, John McCain, and Hillary Clinton. She even claimed she carried out the intrusion on the direct orders of John Brennan, who would later go on to become director of the CIA.

Brennan has denied any knowledge of Maras-Lindeman. and like most of her claims about her work as an intelligence contractor, she says they can’t be verified because of the covert nature of the work she does.

But what may be most worrying to the thousands of people who are giving her money every month is that she has already been found guilty of ripping people off by misrepresenting what the money she is collecting is for.

In 2018, a judge in North Dakota, where she was living at the time, ordered her to pay $25,000 after she was found to have used money collected—which she claimed was to fund homeless shelters and wreaths for veterans’ graves—on purchases for herself at McDonald’s, QVC, and elsewhere.

Maras-Lindeman has appealed the court’s decision to North Dakota’s Supreme Court, claiming bureaucratic failings and identity theft caused the confusion.

Despite her questionable background, Maras-Lindeman has managed to become a celebrity within the world of election-fraud hucksters, partnering with Weaver to produce more Shadowgate documentaries, and fostering close ties with former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne, who’s bankrolling the controversial audit in Maricopa County.

And she is converting that notoriety into hard cash. 

Maras-Lindeman only began broadcasting on Twitch on July 20 last year, at first averaging just nine viewers, according to data collected by Oh and shared with VICE News. 

By August, her mix of QAnon and election fraud conspiracies had begun to gain a following and she was averaging 390 concurrent viewers. By the end of the year, when she was being quoted in election fraud lawsuits by “Kraken lawyer” Sidney Powell, Maras-Lindeman’s streams had reached 1,000 concurrent viewers. 

And last month, she was averaging over 4,000 viewers on each livestream, peaking at over 5,000 concurrent viewers on May 10, the day the quo warranto lawsuit was filed in Arizona.

Maras-Lindeman now has 18,300 subscribers to her Twitch channel, and since December alone, those subscribers have brought in $35,000, according to analysis by Oh. And because she’s a verified partner on Twitch, she gets to keep 70% of that.

While her subscriber base may seem low compared to the hundreds of thousands of followers some QAnon influencers have, Maras-Lindeman has an incredibly engaged and loyal audience, especially when compared to other Twitch streamers. 

Take, for example, Lisa Vannatta, a gamer who livestreams on Twitch as STPeach. She currently has over 1 million followers on Twitch, a following that rises to over 3 million when you add in her other social media platforms. She’s been streaming full-time for more than six years and generally gets about one-fifth the level of live-viewership that Maras-Lindeman does.

Despite the fact that she shares conspiracy theories, is orchestrating a nationwide uprising, claims to be able to travel to the future, and features a burning Q as part of her logo, Maras-Lindeman’s channel continues to be verified and is listed among the most popular Twitch channels anywhere in the world.

“One might be misled by her very low follower count, [but it is] utterly irrelevant and not indicative of her reach whatsoever,” Oh told VICE News. “Whenever broadcasting, Lindeman—the QAnon believer with highly visible Q-adjacent iconography in her on-platform content—is in top 150 Global Channels, top 75 English Channels on the most popular, Amazon owned, livestreaming service in the world, significantly surpassing career broadcasters with millions of on-platform followers in terms of reach.”

Twitch did not respond to VICE News’ request for comment about Maras-Lindeman’s activity.

 

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omg, it gets better. she was the secret witness for the kracken lawsuit. she had 'intelligence' that showed foreign countries involved in the biden win 

 

 “Military Intelligence expert”

 

bwhawawhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

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1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

things were always trending this way.  could be a crazy summer.  that's when the most violence happens.  when it's nice and hot.

So the Watkins duo took Q offline back in December, and those idiots are just now figuring out it was a scam?

We really need to be grifting the fuck out of these people.

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7 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So the Watkins duo took Q offline back in December, and those idiots are just now figuring out it was a scam?

We really need to be grifting the fuck out of these people.

I guess the easiest way is to bet against them online like that kid did....I wonder if any of the Irish betting shops are taking bets on Trump retaking the Oval in August. 

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23 minutes ago, mchookem said:

perhaps we'll get a Jonestown/Heaven's Gate type cult finale out of these nuts and the problem will solve itself.

i'm not saying i want that to happen.

I'm not saying that I want that to happen, but I will be happy if it does.

I don't have a scintilla of care or compassion remaining for these stupid fucktards.  

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perhaps we'll get a Jonestown/Heaven's Gate type cult finale out of these nuts and the problem will solve itself.
i'm not saying i want that to happen...but i understand.
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Yeah but see, the issue with this particular brand of crazy is they won’t just be content to take themselves out.

Jim Jones killed a congressman and four others before taking their lives/were murdered.

These fuckers are likely to try and take down a bunch of important and innocent people with them.
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20 hours ago, mchookem said:

perhaps we'll get a Jonestown/Heaven's Gate type cult finale out of these nuts and the problem will solve itself.

i'm not saying i want that to happen...but i understand.

 

I’m cheering for it to happen. Can’t happen soon enough. 

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Lobo BT and the rest of you would-be grifters need to be taking notes

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“Hello, Canada, I’m Ramona Didulo, I'm the founder and leader of Canada1st. As of February this year, 2021, I am the head of state and commander in chief of Canada, the Republic,” she said in her announcement video. “The people who appointed me are the white hats and the U.S. military, together with the global allied troops and their governments—the same group of people who have helped President Trump.”

 

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27 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Many levels of weirdness here

At first I thought it was complete bullshit but then I read this:

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Many of Didulo’s followers seem to believe she’s holding tribunals behind the scenes, which are resulting in the executions they’re thirsting for. These followers use extremely tenuous scraps of evidence to prove Didulo is actually in power—including the fact that Romana Didulo is an anagram for “I Am Our Donald.” 

And now there can be no doubt she is the Queen of Canada.

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Lobo BT and the rest of you would-be grifters need to be taking notes
“Hello, Canada, I’m Ramona Didulo, I'm the founder and leader of Canada1st. As of February this year, 2021, I am the head of state and commander in chief of Canada, the Republic,” she said in her announcement video. “The people who appointed me are the white hats and the U.S. military, together with the global allied troops and their governments—the same group of people who have helped President Trump.”
 

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We were gonna use a Didulo during my wife's first pregnancy as she wanted an all-natural birth.  But we had to have an emergency C-section instead.  

Yeah, this one is on me folks.  My bad.  I was so busy with the logistics of our presidential library exploratory committee, and keeping us from legal trouble.  I totally forgot we needed a cult figure to rally around.  She has brilliantly positioned herself as the heir to Trump, but in Canada.  I bet she eats Tim Horton's with ketchup and bottled water.  

In all seriousness though, do y'all still want to try to launch a site for the library deal?  I don't know the technical side, but like a test version of it with actual content, but not collect any money yet?  Just to see how many people would visit it and click on the donate tab if we got it pushed out through our MAQA friends/family?  

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Come to think of it, it was odd when the woman from the service showed up with a black leather bag and said she charged extra for pregnant couples

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On 6/15/2021 at 7:55 AM, Lurch said:

A 2nd inauguration flag bearing a nearing date, and a companion subscription service where you mail it back every month to get the date updated as the prior comes and goes.

 

On 6/15/2021 at 10:00 AM, SaucyJack said:

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I'm gonna go order the flag, order the flag.

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6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How can we parlay this into getting all the Q people to move to Canada and renounce their US citizenship?

Maybe we can herd them up to North Dakota, let them get stuck at the border, and then keep them up in North Daqota for good?

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5 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

the dumbest fucking people alive. i wish the surly Q's would step and take what's coming to them 

I've been asking immamac for a 48-hour 'safe-space' thread on here somewhere.  Users can use a second, anonymous handle to post about Qanon shit.  All rep turned off, no PM's, just posts and quotes.  I am fascinated by this shit.  I know GRhorn is into it.  They all like to claim that "non-Qanon" people are more into it than Qanon people are.  But it's a substantial portion of our nation now, they affect elections, they affect policy, they affect my general wellbeing.  It's an estimated 25 million believers now, that's 12% of the adult population.  So if we have 7,000 users here, that means 800+ Qanon believers (maybe less since there's some half-ass educated people on here including my dumbass).  

I can't ask anybody I know who is a big MAQA/Trumper about Qanon because they can tell by my facial expression as I ask that I am going to either laugh or lay into their childlike wonderment.  I have one neighbor and one cousin who I'm 90% sure are into it but they won't tell me shit.  As such, I am hoping we can get a dialogue going here so we can learn more, no lambasting, no bashing, just read and absorb.  I wanna see behind the curtain without registering on their crazy ass chan sites. 

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I am related both by marriage as well as DNA to people who buy into that whole "sleepy Joe" bullshit & are .0001% away from being a full on Qcumber.

Trumper for sure & definitely on the "stolen election" nonsense.  I genuinely have derision & scorn for any human that believes that shit & I want to beat on them with a baseball bat more than I want them to seek psychological help because they have zero desire to actually get that help.

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1 hour ago, Lobo said:

I can't ask anybody I know who is a big MAQA/Trumper about Qanon because they can tell by my facial expression as I ask that I am going to either laugh or lay into their childlike wonderment. 

My Q-loving in-law will still dance around the edges of the Qanon stuff.  We told her it's time that she and her bf are done camping in her parents' yard, that the parents and the neighbors are tired of it.  They are currently sporadically employed, and living out of an SUV/tent, with her parents covering her bills (they feel sorry for her/make excuses for her behavior, and know that her sisters and brothers are all well taken care of).  And this shit keeps coming up every few months, as they somehow convince her parents to let them stay a little long ("you can stay another month, but ditch the Trump flag", etc.).

Anyways, my wife was (very nicely) giving her some options earlier this week about seeking work, about getting an RV trailer or even a mobile home, and she yelled at us that she doesn't take life advice from people who make dumb decisions about vaccines (we are all vaccinated).  I told her we're not taking shit from some middle-aged woman who is still living out of a fucking car and off of whatever allowance stepmommy and daddy give her.  It was like I started talking in tongues, she was so startled.

Shit like that convinces me that a lot of these Q freaks are not getting the push back they need from friends/relatives.  

In the past, people who believed whacky shit got plenty of pushback from friends and relatives, and they were consigned to the back of "alternative" book stores and rooms in the student union or whatever, and they knew their beliefs were whacky.

But social media and Trump gave them a fucking center stage, along with some help from the Russians and various other grifters, and they feel empowered to spread their stupid shit.

Edit: This is not the first time we've had extremely similar conversations with her - she's hugely fucking entitled, she's lazy as fuck, she always has a conspiracy theory to explain her situation in life, etc.  This has been cyclic for us over the past 3 years or so, and thankfully all of her siblings and in-laws are now pushing for her parents to stop supporting her, as she has been yelling at various siblings in front of their kids/parents' grandkids, and that has the attention of the parents.  Hopefully she gets booted to the curb and has to get a real job that lasts longer than a few weeks.

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As has been discussed many times prior in this topic, these people are stuck in the "Yeah, I'm the crazy one" thing that is doubly compounded by "Yeah, that's what THEY want you to think.  I am actually clued in for the secret stuff that THEY don't want you to know."

I'm sure all of us have been privy to one minor secret or another, whether it's one of the seven secret spices for KFC chicken, a special phone # to get around the long phone lines or a secret door that lets you skip the line (before the whole "fast pass" thing happened) & this just emboldens the idea that life is actually some sort of conspiracy.

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18 minutes ago, ROFL BOX said:

I'm sure all of us have been privy to one minor secret or another, whether it's one of the seven secret spices for KFC chicken, a special phone # to get around the long phone lines or a secret door that lets you skip the line (before the whole "fast pass" thing happened) & this just emboldens the idea that life is actually some sort of conspiracy.

It's not helped when you have people like Tucker Carlson throwing bullshit out there that they know is in accurate, then pulling the "I don't know if that's true, I'm just asking questions!" crap.

"Do your own research" is one of the cornerstones to what made Q successful - it provided a way out of the idiot qanon followers to put the onus on their family/friends.

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QAnon supporters have acted with dismay and confusion after Donald Trump announced the December dates of his upcoming speaking tour with Bill O'Reilly, which coincides with when he is meant to have already been reinstated as president.

Trump has confirmed the upcoming dates and locations for the events with the former Fox News host in a statement while sharing links for his supporters to buy tickets, which are being sold for at least $100.

According to the statement, Trump and O'Reilly will appear in Sunrise, Florida on December 11, before moving to Orlando on December 12, as well as Houston, Texas on December 18, and ending with Dallas on December 19.


"My tour with Bill O'Reilly is getting a lot of attention, and I'm looking forward to it. Maybe tickets would make a great Father's Day gift? In any event, I'll see you then, and much sooner," Trump said.

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The announcement was shared by a number of popular QAnon telegram accounts, one of which has nearly 75,000 subscribers on the encrypted messaging service app.


Supporters of the radical movement expressed concerns that Trump going on a speaking tour later this year surely means that he will not be returning a president—a false claim they have continued to believe since he lost the 2020 election more than seven months ago.


"OK I GUESS MY QUESTION IS TRUMP COMING BACK? WHY WOULD HE BE DOING A TOUR THRU THE END OF THE YEAR WITH O'REILLY. HMMMMMMMMM SOMETHING DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT?," wrote Telegram user Peace Lilly.

"So nothing will happen until December?" added Tina N.


Fellow Telegram user Jack Miller wrote: "Man I sure hope we don't have to wait that long before you're back in office."

Others described the news as "depressing" while one QAnon supporter hoped that the tour announcement "better be a rouse."

QAnon supporters previously believed that Trump would return as president on March 4 based on a wild theory heavily lifted from the sovereign citizen movement. When that prediction failed to come true, as all of them have, they simply moved onto their next hopeful prophecy.

Many QAnon supporters now believe that Trump will return in August—a false claim widely pushed by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell—if the disputed and disregarded audit in Arizona proves there was election fraud that cost him the election.

QAnon suggests the ballot recount in Arizona—which still has not revealed any widespread evidence of fraud after several weeks—will result in a domino effect which will see other states overturn November's election result, paving a way for Trump's return to the White House despite there being no constitutional basis for this to happen.

 

As always, some QAnon supporters are still holding onto the belief that their prediction will come true despite all the evidence against it and the fact none of the others beforehand have come to fruition.


"It's only a few dates close together...it could be done if it works out like it should...could cancel....but yup..kinda a gut punch statement," one Telegram user wrote. "But we are in an information war, so who the hell knows."

 

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They announced that tour with Bill O'Reilly 2 months ago.  The Qanon people just now realized December would be AFTER the August reinstatement?  

Here's what we need to do, we need to sell Advent Calendars that count down not to Jesus' birth, but to Trump's tour of reinstatement.  We can put racey pics of Melania and Ivanka in alternating months and we can probably gross $29.95/calendar.  

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26 minutes ago, Lobo said:

They announced that tour with Bill O'Reilly 2 months ago.  The Qanon people just now realized December would be AFTER the August reinstatement?  

Here's what we need to do, we need to sell Advent Calendars that count down not to Jesus' birth, but to Trump's tour of reinstatement.  We can put racey pics of Melania and Ivanka in alternating months and we can probably gross $29.95/calendar.  

 

suprise them with one of putin's side pieces 

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