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1 minute ago, immamac said:

Pretty long con for a 2022 account that doesn't really do the same shit that animal tobacco does... Just saying from looking at the last 3 months if posts. 

Fair enough. Your board. 

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

I can see the merits, but when we have gone mod light in DT it has been overall bad. It's hard to do a full trial run. 

That’s a fair point, but in defense of my point, you have an entire contingent of posters (and yes I understand I may be biased) that immediately refuse to engage and just respond to any point they don’t like with “take it to the CR”. 

 

All the while giving potshots of their own opposing views, and of course, this may be bait, but it works, because they refuse to engage in an actual conversation in the correct place. 

 

I get that it is hard to do a trail run. Might I suggest locking both forums and creating a new trial run all encompassing forum? You and I are just speculating one way or the other will or won’t work, but neither of us know for sure. My assumption is locking both and creating another gives you a somewhat reversible way to switch back if the thunderdome doesn’t work. 

My hope is this allows yall to do less moderating outside a single cesspool, and also does not choke the golden goose that is recruiting. But I’m just suggesting ideas.

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Posted (edited)

Many of you are under the impression that you have some sort of 1st amendment right to say anything you want here. You don’t. This is imma’s site and he can make the rules.  If you can’t/won’t follow them then either leave or be prepared for the consequences. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

 

I can’t speak for others, but all I’m asking for is some consistency. You’re going to wake up tomorrow and realize how ridiculous your behavior tonight was. You’re acting like Elon in a k-hole trying to moderate Twitter per his fleeting whims.

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The one coming across as a whiny little brat…

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Giving roy a weeklong break for that is pretty silly but honestly, @immamac is not really being all that unreasonable here and we could all stand to be a little more charitable to him considering the amount of shit he has to put up with, me included.

I personally disagree with the stance he and Bob have taken with regard to the DT, and I think that what @UnivTex34 said is essentially correct. There is a lot of shitty disinformation dropped in various DT threads from sources that range from dubious to literal fake news factories, like the numerous OSINT Twitter accounts that are often (completely uncritically) used as sources of credible information that are just posting straight up foreign agitprop. Pointing this out is usually "too CR" for DT posters and gets you reported.

On the flip side, I also understand there's a line and that I personally have stepped over that line a number of times so there's plenty of room for interpretation there. We're never going to get it right 100% of the time (mods and posters alike) and not everyone is going to be happy about it.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

There is a lot of shitty disinformation dropped in various DT threads

Does that happen with greater frequency in the DT compared to the CR?

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Giving roy a weeklong break for that is pretty silly but honestly, @immamac is not really being all that unreasonable here and we could all stand to be a little more charitable to him considering the amount of shit he has to put up with, me included.

I personally disagree with the stance he and Bob have taken with regard to the DT, and I think that what @UnivTex34 said is essentially correct. There is a lot of shitty disinformation dropped in various DT threads from sources that range from dubious to literal fake news factories, like the numerous OSINT Twitter accounts that are often (completely uncritically) used as sources of credible information that are just posting straight up foreign agitprop. Pointing this out is usually "too CR" for DT posters and gets you reported.

On the flip side, I also understand there's a line and that I personally have stepped over that line a number of times so there's plenty of room for interpretation there. We're never going to get it right 100% of the time (mods and posters alike) and not everyone is going to be happy about it.

This is exactly why I disagree with imma's assertion that he doesn't "control the message, [he] doesn't shape the threads". He absofuckinglutely does. He rolled out the red carpet for Pronghorn to blast racist disinformation and known foreign agitprop as a news source, and then the mods swung their dicks around on anyone who points that out. Because "nobody cares if it's lies, it's not against the rules to be an idiot".

Yeah, TOTALLY not shaping the narrative or controlling the message to say that they are above reproach and their dogshit and frequently recanted sourcing doesn't smell like shit. It's very literally creating a safe space for disinformation and those who want to disseminate it.

 

And look, I understand that it would just be easier if we like all got along man. But that requires a common set of facts and a single reality. And the way DT is ran, you can simply cry "CR!!!" to paper over any factual vacancies you might have pointed out to you.

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my dungeons and dragons alignment is True Neutral, dead center, so let me try to mediate this shitstorm with a proposal:

1. the forum titles of Daily Texan and Cloak Room and the ostensible purpose of each forum, as named and so defined 19 years ago (!) no longer accurately represent the content posted therein

2. rename them, left/right, red/blue, maybe run a mod thread stickied to the top of each forum asking for nominations of the new name for that forum, then run a poll

3. those on the left upset that DT allows alternative facts news will drop their crusade and accept the double standard - the 'right' gets their forum, the 'left' gets theirs, and there is no longer any attempt to bifurcate "news" and "politics"

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Does that happen with greater frequency in the DT compared to the CR?

I think it does, but probably not to the degree most people might think. DT is the subject here though.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Captainant said:

And look, I understand that it would just be easier if we like all got along man. But that requires a common set of facts and a single reality. And the way DT is ran, you can simply cry "CR!!!" to paper over any factual vacancies you might have pointed out to you.

we have reached the point where a single reality is unrecoverable

we are at the point where waging war for a single truth-fact-based reality is jeopardizing the existence of a football board that we all love

if it were my board i would wipe out everything except sports and call it a day

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

we have reached the point where a single reality is unrecoverable

we are at the point where waging war for a single truth-fact-based reality is jeopardizing the existence of a football board that we all love

if it were my board i would wipe out everything except sports and call it a day

And if the rules are "facts are for the Cloak Room" then ok cool, let's just be fucking honest and not lie to ourselves. 

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Posted
10 hours ago, immamac said:

Just because some of you are more interested in politics and let it have a deep impact in your personal life doesn't mean a bunch if people who come go this site for FOOTBALL RECRUITING NEWS, and maybe a little bit of a funny take on current events or a crowd sourced news thread that goes further and more diverse than any machine learning based solution would pump to you. 

That's the magic here for 90%+ of posters. Then there are 10% of posters who legitimately cannot divorce themselves from politics in any facet of anything. Stay in the fucking cloak room, no one asked you to stop posting there. People repeatedly ask, and the rules have been the same since the inception of this community that politics stays off the rest of the board. 

Just chiming in to say I think this is dead on.  Come for the sports talk but then get your fill of entertainment, food/travel, and in particular, news updates (and on the rare occasion in the mood for politics, I knew where to find it).  That is what made the site great for a long time.  It was an incredibly efficient way to catch up current events in between calls. I spend a lot less time here than I used to because the 10% of posters are completely incapable of not letting their strong political feelings infect every thread they participate in and I just log out.     

My personal view is that social media algorithms have completely broken people's brains on both sides of the aisle and it infects everything.  Hell, I feel it personally when I start scrolling my phone (and as a moderate my algorithm manages to make me pissed off at both sides).  One idea would be that if you decide to post in the Cloak Room, you are just locked out of DT.  But then the problem would be DT would just become Fox "news" over time.  I don't think there really is a fix.

BTW - this isn't unique to this board.  I've used my buddy's OB account for like 15 years from time to time.  Similarly, there are lot of experts there that make non-sports threads (investments, etc.) good reads, but they have the opposite problem as that board leans heavy MAGA so you can't stop the MAGA idiots from ruining any off topic thread.   It's just a societal problem at this point.  Politics has completely overwhelmed certain people to the point that it impacts virtually every single aspect of their life.  What's funny is, I know several people like that in real life, but when I manage to see them in person they are largely completely capable of having normal conversations.  It's social media algorithms and the internet that have turned everyone insane online in particular.  

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

And if the rules are "facts are for the Cloak Room" then ok cool, let's just be fucking honest and not lie to ourselves. 

nothing in the mission statement about that - the alternate facts crowd will not stay in 'their' forum if you do that - your still trying to win a war that neither side is going to win

Posted
18 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

we are at the point where waging war for a single truth-fact-based reality is jeopardizing the existence of a football board that we all love

if it were my board i would wipe out everything except sports and call it a day

Would be interesting to see monthly posts and view by board by month. Just back of the envelope, the food board, DT, and CR all appear to have younger posts on the first page as of today (based on date of last post on first page). 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Would be interesting to see monthly posts and view by board by month. Just back of the envelope, the food board, DT, and CR all appear to have younger posts on the first page as of today (based on date of last post on first page). 

irrelevant

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6 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

irrelevant

Perhaps. You probably have a better grasp on what exactly jeopardizing the existence of the board. My assumption is that traffic drives some meaningful amount of the revenue that makes this place not a total financial loss. 

2 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i like the proposal of being able to post only in one forum or the other

It's certainly a better trial to run than merging DT and the CR. 

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Posted (edited)

Seems simple, don't @ imma when some DT snowflake starts crying "ehermagerd CR," just ignore it or call them a bitch and move on. I just caught up and there's plenty of discussion on the DT thread about accountability and the bullshit coming from Ralph Cruz and Gov. Hotwheels. I disagree with the comment above that things aren't different today than in 2001, 2006, 2008, 2016, etc. The last ten years have been deliberately set up such that everything is political. You can't even talk about rain and flood occurrences without some nutjob coming in with weather manipulation and cloud seeding bullshit. The fires in California and the bridge disaster in Baltimore were immediately politicized by the people now crying about politiciziation of a tragedy. It's all intertwined and it was done so on purpose. I tend to defer to CR for most of my discussions about this stuff to be safe and it's worked out fine. Like someone said above, there's more detailed information in CR at this point, it is what it is.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

Giving roy a weeklong break for that is pretty silly but honestly, @immamac is not really being all that unreasonable here and we could all stand to be a little more charitable to him considering the amount of shit he has to put up with, me included.

I personally disagree with the stance he and Bob have taken with regard to the DT, and I think that what @UnivTex34 said is essentially correct. There is a lot of shitty disinformation dropped in various DT threads from sources that range from dubious to literal fake news factories, like the numerous OSINT Twitter accounts that are often (completely uncritically) used as sources of credible information that are just posting straight up foreign agitprop. Pointing this out is usually "too CR" for DT posters and gets you reported.

On the flip side, I also understand there's a line and that I personally have stepped over that line a number of times so there's plenty of room for interpretation there. We're never going to get it right 100% of the time (mods and posters alike) and not everyone is going to be happy about it.

There's ways to disagree with eachother and still have a respectful conversation even if it's heated. I'm fine with that and you have been great about that. Is it frustrating? Sure, but that comes with the territory and it's not really a you thing outside of toning it down sometimes. 

43 minutes ago, Captainant said:

This is exactly why I disagree with imma's assertion that he doesn't "control the message, [he] doesn't shape the threads". He absofuckinglutely does. He rolled out the red carpet for Pronghorn to blast racist disinformation and known foreign agitprop as a news source, and then the mods swung their dicks around on anyone who points that out. Because "nobody cares if it's lies, it's not against the rules to be an idiot".

Yeah, TOTALLY not shaping the narrative or controlling the message to say that they are above reproach and their dogshit and frequently recanted sourcing smells like shit. It's very literally creating a safe space for disinformation and those who want to disseminate it.

 

And look, I understand that it would just be easier if we like all got along man. But that requires a common set of facts and a single reality. And the way DT is ran, you can simply cry "CR!!!" to paper over any factual vacancies you might have pointed out to you.

Dude, you need to read your own post a bunch of times and realize that you are not jumping, but leaping to conclusions that aren't there. You use inflammatory language, you have an agenda, you create nonsensical support for that agenda and then you come up with some horseshit conclusion like I'm controlling the message by literally doing the exact opposite.

Its not your job to be the fact police, no one annointed you fact king or ruler of opinions. Some people suck, get over it or argue with them about how stupid they are and how bad their information is. Stop being a bitch and immediately leaning on political agendas for everything. Not everything is a conspiracy theory, most people suck. 

25 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Just chiming in to say I think this is dead on.  Come for the sports talk but then get your fill of entertainment, food/travel, and in particular, news updates (and on the rare occasion in the mood for politics, I knew where to find it).  That is what made the site great for a long time.  It was an incredibly efficient way to catch up current events in between calls. I spend a lot less time here than I used to because the 10% of posters are completely incapable of not letting their strong political feelings infect every thread they participate in and I just log out.     

My personal view is that social media algorithms have completely broken people's brains on both sides of the aisle and it infects everything.  Hell, I feel it personally when I start scrolling my phone (and as a moderate my algorithm manages to make me pissed off at both sides).  One idea would be that if you decide to post in the Cloak Room, you are just locked out of DT.  But then the problem would be DT would just become Fox "news" over time.  I don't think there really is a fix.

BTW - this isn't unique to this board.  I've used my buddy's OB account for like 15 years from time to time.  Similarly, there are lot of experts there that make non-sports threads (investments, etc.) good reads, but they have the opposite problem as that board leans heavy MAGA so you can't stop the MAGA idiots from ruining any off topic thread.   It's just a societal problem at this point.  Politics has completely overwhelmed certain people to the point that it impacts virtually every single aspect of their life.  What's funny is, I know several people like that in real life, but when I manage to see them in person they are largely completely capable of having normal conversations.  It's social media algorithms and the internet that have turned everyone insane online in particular.  

I've had a lot of in person conversations with people, a lot of offline conversations with people, etc. This is the far and away overwhelming feedback, and it's obvious because when you go to some of the more active threads that involve current events it's less than 40 posters dominating that conversation, there are well over 5000 active posters.

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Posted
25 minutes ago, immamac said:

Dude, you need to read your own post a bunch of times and realize that you are not jumping, but leaping to conclusions that aren't there. You use inflammatory language, you have an agenda, you create nonsensical support for that agenda and then you come up with some horseshit conclusion like I'm controlling the message by literally doing the exact opposite.

Its not your job to be the fact police, no one annointed you fact king or ruler of opinions. Some people suck, get over it or argue with them about how stupid they are and how bad their information is. Stop being a bitch and immediately leaning on political agendas for everything. Not everything is a conspiracy theory, most people suck. 

You are doing the exact same schtick as the mayor of Kerrville is by shaking your finger and say "SHAME ON YOU" to shout down anyone you see as opposition and smaller than you.

 

But its your board, so ultimately you're right and I'm wrong and we're gonna do it your way.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You are doing the exact same schtick as the mayor of Kerrville is by shaking your finger and say "SHAME ON YOU" to shout down anyone you see as opposition and smaller than you.

 

But its your board, so ultimately you're right and I'm wrong and we're gonna do it your way.

You need to get off the internet dude. I legitimately think you have a problem, you did exactly what I put in my previous post and then made it more egregious by making it political for legitimately no reason at all. 

Take a break. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i like the proposal of being able to post only in one forum or the other

Not likely to ever find out, but it would likely spill over into other discussions.  It already does on a limited fashion.

Some folks cannot function without their "pound of flesh" or "objective facts that always go in one direction."

Posted
16 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Not likely to ever find out, but it would likely spill over into other discussions.  It already does on a limited fashion.

Some folks cannot function without their "pound of flesh" or "objective facts that always go in one direction."

Lol. We know you hate objective reality and think your opinions are facts. You don't need to remind us. You're literally the poster child for this.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Lol. We know you hate objective reality and think your opinions are facts. You don't need to remind us. You're literally the poster child for this.

And so are you. I don't get why some of you cannot just leave things alone. You act like surly is real life and not some place to just be entertained and talk shit. 

I'm telling everyone to knock it off and chill out and everyone tells me I'm a fascist and overmoderating because I want people to just follow the rules. 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Lol. We know you hate objective reality and think your opinions are facts. You don't need to remind us. You're literally the poster child for this.

Two opinions stated as facts

Posted
6 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Many of you are under the impression that you have some sort of 1st amendment right to say anything you want here. You don’t. This is imma’s site and he can make the rules.  If you can’t/won’t follow them then either leave or be prepared for the consequences. 

this is literally the thread where he is being accused of/repeatedly denying being a fascist. what you are describing is the main tenet of fascism:

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i (and many others) have been banned more times than i can count not for breaking any rules, but simply because of imma’s “my site, my (ever changing, emotionally charged, unwritten, unpredictable) rules. 

the last time i got banned here was for two months because i came to this thread and said, “imma bans people who say things he doesn’t like, he’s really is a fascist.” he not only banned me, he (for the 3rd or 4th time) made a site wide banner about it and drew everyone’s attention to the fact that he banned me for saying that he’s a fascist, and then you guys celebrated it with dozens and dozens of pos rep, and weeks of shit talk about me. again, this is a decade *after* the time he banned me on shaggy for disagreeing with him and publicly said, “i am the police; i just came into your yard and shot your dog; what are you gonna do about it? nothing.” you sure that’s not fascism? you sure about that?

i really can’t explain how imma can post, “oh yeah im such a fascist for sure 🙄” and then like five minutes later give someone a week off on an emotional whim because that person said something that didn’t come close to breaking any rules, but that imma just didn’t like. 

imma is a fascist; he always has been; it’s on full display (again) here in this thread. how he doesn’t see it, i have no idea. how you can come in here and say, “it’s his site, he can do whatever he wants!!!” to prove that he’s not a practicing fascist, i also can’t explain. 

in conclusion: spending more than a decade banning people who you disagree with is literally fascism. it is his site, he has all the power to do whatever he wants, and could easily/foreseeably ban me for the 50th time for this post, simply because he doesn’t like it, and not because i broke any rules. that’s how it’s always been; that’s how it will always be. let’s stop pretending that this isn’t the case. @royiv did nothing to deserve a ban. he simply had a different take than our fascist site owner. and now he’s gone. tell me more about how that’s not fascism.

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that ^^^ got me two months off. nothing racist, homophobic, no porn, no death wishes- just a post that says, “imma is a fascist tho.” it’s lit•er•ally fascism to ban everyone who says stuff you don’t like. he’s never even been shy about it. 

and btw, i’m not some huge problem poster who causes headaches for him, or whose posts get reported, in fact im someone who drives earnest conversation and contributes greatly to the forums i frequent. hell i couldn’t even tell you the last time i got a neg rep. hasn’t stopped him from banning me countless times for speaking out against him, or literally just saying something he doesn’t like. it’s fascism. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Lol. We know you hate objective reality and think your opinions are facts. You don't need to remind us. You're literally the poster child for this.

Public education, legalization of MJ, among other things are areas where I vary greatly from what people "think" I would believe.  LGBTQ and race relations within my own family are different what people "think" they know.  I hardly follow a party line.  I hate the parties.

You dislike me because of our political differences.  You cannot even discuss basketball- not because of my basketball opinions, but politics.  Because of your behavior, not your actual content, you are on ignore.  I only saw your post because it was quoted.

Keep on keepin on, bro.

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Just now, Iceman said:

You cannot even discuss basketball- not because of my basketball opinions, but politics.

What? Lol. I know you have me on ignore but this is not even close to true.

You got really upset with me because I wouldn't back you up on something dumb you said (completely unrelated to politics) on the basketball board just because we're both Tech fans. That isn't my fault or my problem. I "dislike" (stretch to even say that because I don't think you're a bad person at all) you because you frequently say dumb things and then refuse to back up what you say with anything resembling logic or reason when challenged. I don't even think your political opinions are that bad, you just operate on pure vibes and feels and seem to have no interest in learning anything. I think that is what most people find frustrating about you, aside from the cringy slap fights you constantly get in over school rivalry shit.

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An AI tool that detects when posters are being shitheads and moves their posts to a penalty box thread. So, in football there would be the Quinn Ewers thread [7 pages] and the Quinn Ewers Penalty Box [527 pages].

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Posted
6 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

my dungeons and dragons alignment is True Neutral, dead center, so let me try to mediate this shitstorm with a proposal:

1. the forum titles of Daily Texan and Cloak Room and the ostensible purpose of each forum, as named and so defined 19 years ago (!) no longer accurately represent the content posted therein

2. rename them, left/right, red/blue, maybe run a mod thread stickied to the top of each forum asking for nominations of the new name for that forum, then run a poll

3. those on the left upset that DT allows alternative facts news will drop their crusade and accept the double standard - the 'right' gets their forum, the 'left' gets theirs, and there is no longer any attempt to bifurcate "news" and "politics"

Fuck that. All day long I see the echo chambers on Reddit where dumbshits of the left and the right, each in their own echo chamber forums, get delusional about reality because the moderators of those threads eliminate all facts and information that are counter to the benefit of their “team”. Your idea is a terrible one, and it’s that type of thinking why we have all these problems in the first place.  

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Honestly, all news talk should be nuked from the site. Delete the forums. Make a hard rule against any news at all being discussed here that isn't sports related. 

The USA is collapsing. It's under a mountain of debt that is unsustainable, the government has been sold to the highest bidder for several decades, and there are massive propaganda sources just denying reality and painting everything with lies to cover their own corruption and criminality. 

Millions of members of the US society are being persecuted by the government and fellow residents, fascism has taken hold, and everything is getting more cruel and disgusting by the day. 

Governmental systems are breaking down and being stripped for parts. That has become completely evident with the central Texas flooding disasters. It was a complete failure of government and culture at all levels and has gotten hundreds of people killed. It will only get worse as the corruption and incompetence goes unpunished and actively rewarded. 

There's no reversing this. It's a society destroying itself from the inside. It will eventually completely destroy us as Americans. If you want the board to hang on to people for the longest time possible just make it free from any news whatsoever. Just an escape from our impending demise as a society to focus on sports. 

Posted
18 hours ago, immamac said:

Pretty long con for a 2022 account that doesn't really do the same shit that animal tobacco does... Just saying from looking at the last 3 months if posts. 

There are 2 or 3 posters who will swear on a grave that I am that lunatic in the face of all reason and evidence. idk

Posted
2 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Fuck that. All day long I see the echo chambers on Reddit where dumbshits of the left and the right, each in their own echo chamber forums, get delusional about reality because the moderators of those threads eliminate all facts and information that are counter to the benefit of their “team”. Your idea is a terrible one, and it’s that type of thinking why we have all these problems in the first place.  

dude, i'm just making suggestions to make life livable for imma

"that type of thinking" didn't create the echo chambers

but that's another argument

you don't like my idea, fine

i look forward to hearing your solution

otherwise, close dt & cr

no news

no politics

keep everything else

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12 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

dude, i'm just making suggestions to make life livable for imma

"that type of thinking" didn't create the echo chambers

but that's another argument

you don't like my idea, fine

i look forward to hearing your solution

otherwise, close dt & cr

no news

no politics

keep everything else

My solution is exactly what immamac is already doing with one exception: a bunch of unreasonable whiners on the threads start acting like adults instead of 13 year old pre-teen idiots. 

 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

There are 2 or 3 posters who will swear on a grave that I am that lunatic in the face of all reason and evidence. idk

If you somehow are animal tobacco, which I don't necessarily believe because that guy was not nearly as good at hiding his shitty beliefs as he thought he was, you've certainly become a better poster, even if we may disagree on certain things.

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2 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Honestly, all news talk should be nuked from the site. Delete the forums. Make a hard rule against any news at all being discussed here that isn't sports related. 

The USA is collapsing. It's under a mountain of debt that is unsustainable, the government has been sold to the highest bidder for several decades, and there are massive propaganda sources just denying reality and painting everything with lies to cover their own corruption and criminality. 

Millions of members of the US society are being persecuted by the government and fellow residents, fascism has taken hold, and everything is getting more cruel and disgusting by the day. 

Governmental systems are breaking down and being stripped for parts. That has become completely evident with the central Texas flooding disasters. It was a complete failure of government and culture at all levels and has gotten hundreds of people killed. It will only get worse as the corruption and incompetence goes unpunished and actively rewarded. 

There's no reversing this. It's a society destroying itself from the inside. It will eventually completely destroy us as Americans. If you want the board to hang on to people for the longest time possible just make it free from any news whatsoever. Just an escape from our impending demise as a society to focus on sports. 

 

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9 hours ago, immamac said:

You need to get off the internet dude. I legitimately think you have a problem, you did exactly what I put in my previous post and then made it more egregious by making it political for legitimately no reason at all. 

Take a break. 

Crossposting this meme because it seems to fit…

 

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