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So today his first criminal trials starts, down the hall his bond is up for rejection, and later this week his ridiculous immunity claim will be heard at the Supreme Court.  It's a good day.  

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10 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Right. Like when a whole lot of folks on here were predicting she was going to divorce Trump as soon as he left office.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

What? You think THIS will be the final straw?

She knows damn well Trump cheats on her. She doesn’t care. The only thing that bothers her is that these trysts were made public. She responded by renegotiating her prenup. She’s a grifter and a gold digger. She’s not in it for love or honor or dignity or anything noble. She’s in it til the end. The only way she’d ever file for divorce is if Trump were left absolutely penniless with no properties or assets of any kind. She ain’t leaving him before the well has run dry. 

She doesn't want to be his ex. She wants to be his widow.

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4 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

So today his first criminal trials starts, down the hall his bond is up for rejection, and later this week his ridiculous immunity claim will be heard at the Supreme Court.  It's a good day.  

 

 NY Times with the play by play:

 

Donald J. Trump has entered the courtroom, striding in next to one of his lawyers, Todd Blanche. They’re followed by the rest of the defense team. Trump scans the room, brushes off the top of his chair and takes a seat.


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Trump spoke to the press in the hallway and excoriated the case. He ignored some of the questions he was asked, like, “Where’s Melania?”

 

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And so it begins:

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Justice Merchan says court will break early today because an alternate juror has a medical issue. The judge also says a juror called saying they had concerns about being here. The juror is present but Merchan wants lawyers to speak with him or her in chambers.

 

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1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

What are the odds that Trump interrupts this?

 

 

I'd say zero because when it comes right down to it he's a giant pussy.  However, given his advancing dementia, I'd give it 10% before the trial is over he has some sort of outburst.  

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I've got work to do today, so I can't keep spamming the thread with Times updates, but this one is poignant:

 

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As his lawyers enter into the judge’s chambers to discuss the concerned juror, Trump sits alone at the defense table motionless, occasionally scanning the empty bench where the judge typically sits. It is a striking image for a person who is typically surrounded by so many people.

 

If anything, Trump is alone in life, and has been for years.  This is just a microcosm of it.

 

EDIT:  and the judge has returned

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Justice Merchan returns to the stand, and says the juror will remain on the panel.

 

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So today his first criminal trials starts, down the hall his bond is up for rejection, and later this week his ridiculous immunity claim will be heard at the Supreme Court.  It's a good day.  

Sounds like the ideal time to run for President of the United States.
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Trump is struggling to stay awake. His eyes were closed for a short period. He was jolted awake when Todd Blanche, his lawyer, nudged him while sliding a note in front of him.

 

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28 minutes ago, Horndog said:

She doesn't want to be his ex. She wants to be his widow.

And she doesn’t want death threats against her or her son. She’s morally bankrupt just like the rest of the family. (And there’s no “fake Melania” stand-in.” She’s the prop.)

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Oh, and this gem:

 

The judge reads his ruling on the Sandoval hearing aloud. This determines what prosecutors can ask Trump about if he testifies. Justice Merchan says he will allow the prosecution to bring up six different determinations from four other cases, including his loss in the civil fraud trial earlier this year, in which Trump was found liable for conspiring to manipulate his net worth and penalized hundreds of millions of dollars.


Justice Merchan will also let prosecutors ask about Trump’s attack on a law clerk in that case, in violation of a gag order.


Prosecutors will also be allowed to ask Trump about having been found liable twice for defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll. But for now, Justice Merchan does not mention that Trump was also found liable for sexually abusing Carroll.

 

 

Justice Merchan’s ruling has significantly increased the potential blowback Trump will face if he decides to take the stand and testify in his own defense. In the end, it’s his call and his alone to make. But the judge just handed the prosecution a fairly heavy legal cudgel to use against Trump if he does decide to testify.

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April 22, 2024, 9:55 a.m. ET9 minutes ago
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Trump shook his head several times as Justice Merchan read his ruling into the record.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

This seems not good. 

I assume you mean this in the Dave Chapelle "you hate to see it" gif, sense, right? Or am I missing something big?

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1 minute ago, dieucla98 said:

I assume you mean this in the Dave Chapelle "you hate to see it" gif, sense, right? Or am I missing something big?

Yeah, bad for Donald trump. It really does seem like they’ve got a case that is so strong they are gonna go in no lube. This isn’t congress so it may be a lot different than what we’ve seen before. 

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Just now, immamac said:

Yeah, bad for Donald trump. It really does seem like they’ve got a case that is so strong they are gonna go in no lube. This isn’t congress so it may be a lot different than what we’ve seen before. 

What, you think they'll allow the prosecution to show documentary evidence? That would be first for trump to defend against 

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13 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Oh, and this gem:

 

The judge reads his ruling on the Sandoval hearing aloud. This determines what prosecutors can ask Trump about if he testifies. Justice Merchan says he will allow the prosecution to bring up six different determinations from four other cases, including his loss in the civil fraud trial earlier this year, in which Trump was found liable for conspiring to manipulate his net worth and penalized hundreds of millions of dollars.


Justice Merchan will also let prosecutors ask about Trump’s attack on a law clerk in that case, in violation of a gag order.


Prosecutors will also be allowed to ask Trump about having been found liable twice for defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll. But for now, Justice Merchan does not mention that Trump was also found liable for sexually abusing Carroll.

 

 

Justice Merchan’s ruling has significantly increased the potential blowback Trump will face if he decides to take the stand and testify in his own defense. In the end, it’s his call and his alone to make. But the judge just handed the prosecution a fairly heavy legal cudgel to use against Trump if he does decide to testify.

Kate Christobek
April 22, 2024, 9:55 a.m. ET9 minutes ago
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Trump shook his head several times as Justice Merchan read his ruling into the record.

Attacking the judge's daughter was a bad choice.

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8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

What, you think they'll allow the prosecution to show documentary evidence? That would be first for trump to defend against 

Yeah it seems like trump and his attorneys misjudged the is pretty hard. 

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The Biden Crime Family?  Meanwhile, this literal boss of a mob is effectively saying, "You've got a nice daughter there judge, be a shame if anything happened to her."

Also, what the fuck with the $175mm bond claim?  He says he put up all the cash but the issue is the AG has an issue with the bonding company in California?  Is like a Boogie Nights reboot?

"Look man, I don't know your industry lingo.  I put up the $175mm already so forget about the bond company okay?  Well, I didn't directly turn over $175mm in cash, that's the bond company's duty.  I can't put up the $175mm in cash that I said I did until I get the bond with the collateral I can't put up until I can buy it back with the $175mm I get from the bond company to pay to you once you release it to me.  Don't you get it man, these are my tapes!"  

I think he's going to start rambling about tariffs any minute now.

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Yeah it seems like trump and his attorneys misjudged the is pretty hard. 

His attorneys didn't misjudge much of anything, I practically guarantee.  They have a very difficult client who is a pretty terrible criminal defendant.

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And we are off:

 

Matthew Colangelo, one of the prosecutors, stands up to deliver his side's opening statement.

 


Colangelo is known for his writing, but he has very little experience in Manhattan criminal court — I’ve never heard him give an opening before. He begins by telling the jury that Trump lied “over and over and over” again by disguising business records.


Colangelo is saying that Trump, Michael Cohen and David Pecker “formed” a conspiracy at a meeting early in the campaign to help Trump get elected.


Colangelo tells the jurors that Cohen paid the porn star Stormy Daniels $130,000 to silence her story of a “sexual encounter” with Trump, in order to influence the presidential election. This story, that we’ve known for years, is finally being presented in full to a jury in a criminal case.

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Matthew Colangelo has moved neatly through the crime, and is on to the grand jury indictment of Trump last year. His opening is expected to take less than an hour and I can see why it will be relatively quick: We’re moving briskly here already.

 

Trump has attacked Colangelo on Truth Social repeatedly. He worked at the Department of Justice before being hired to work on this case in 2022. Trump has used that fact to baselessly claim the existence of a widespread conspiracy against him.

 

As Matthew Colangelo says that Trump orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election, Trump shook his head.


It remains to be seen if Trump has learned the lesson of the second Carroll trial, which he attended. He acted out in front of the jury throughout the trial. He ended up facing an $83.3 million civil judgment.

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5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

It remains to be seen if Trump has learned the lesson of the second Carroll trial, which he attended. He acted out in front of the jury throughout the trial. He ended up facing an $83.3 million civil judgment.

The republican nominee for President, ladies and gentlemen. 

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Colangelo is now describing the practice of “catch and kill,” in which The National Enquirer bought stories that were problematic to Trump and then buried them. To be clear, this is not a normal journalistic practice.


I see one juror smiling slightly as Colangelo describes some of the National Enquirer headlines that helped Trump's campaign in 2016, embarrassing campaign opponents including Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Prosecutors only won the right to talk about those headlines last week. We can see how important they are here today, as they go to what prosecutors say was Trump’s intent: seeking to assist his candidacy by promoting negative stories about others and suppressing those about himself.


One of those catch-and-kill deals involved a story that turned out to be false about Trump fathering a child out of wedlock. A doorman at a Trump building was a key figure in it.

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3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I see one juror smiling slightly as Colangelo describes some of the National Enquirer headlines that helped Trump's campaign in 2016, embarrassing campaign opponents including Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.

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Prosecutors are going to highlight three hush-money deals over the course of the trial. As our colleague Michael Rothfeld recently explained, Trump’s allies paid off the porn star, the Playboy model and the doorman.

 

Matthew Colangelo emphasizes that it was the first time that David Pecker, of The National Enquirer, had paid for information relating to Trump. He’s emphasizing the key point: That every one of these acts involving hush-money deals sprang from the meeting at which he said the conspiracy was hatched.


In other words, prosecutors are accusing Trump of using The National Enquirer to do for Trump what Trump says all the time that others do against him: promote “fake news.”

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Colangelo is now describing the second “catch-and-kill” deal in question, relating to Karen McDougal, a former Playboy model who said she had an affair with Trump. Colangelo says evidence will show that Trump “desperately” didn’t want that information public. “Before the meeting, during the meeting, after the meeting,” Colangelo says, The National Enquirer publisher was in touch with Michael Cohen, putting this deal right at Trump’s doorstep.

 

Colangelo says Pecker will testify that $150,000 was more than The National Enquirer would typically have paid for such a deal, and that Pecker had trouble being reimbursed for it. Crucially, Colangelo says, Pecker will testify that he spoke to Trump about it.


Colangelo mentions that the alleged affair with Karen McDougal happened while Trump was married. It will be interesting to see how much the prosecutors lean into the idea of infidelity in presenting their case. The sexual encounter that Stormy Daniels describes, in 2006, also would have occured when Trump was married.

 

And obligatory:

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As Colangelo describes the “Access Hollywood” tape that he says turned the 2016 campaign upside down, he refers to this email chain. We learned it would be admitted as evidence only last week. It’s really striking how much important evidence in this opening was just allowed in, and it emphasizes the importance of the judge’s decisions.

 

Colangelo is now describing the emergence of the "Access Hollywood" tape on Oct. 7, 2016, beginning with email outreach to Hope Hicks, the Trump spokeswoman, by our now-colleague David Farenthold, who was then a reporter at The Washington Post. Colangelo is reading out loud the most explosive language from Trump, who bragged about grabbing women’s genitals.

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i remember being out at ACL when the Access Hollywood story broke and people kind of celebrating when talking about it because we thought he was finally finished.  oh what sweet children we were!

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For years, this story has been told by reporters with caveats and caution. So it’s really striking to hear Colangelo lay the hush money scheme directly at Trump’s feet, with perfect clarity. “It was election fraud, pure and simple,” Colangelo says bluntly.

 

Colangelo then continues the narrative, saying the Access Hollywood tape’s emergence was the precursor to a story from a porn star named Stormy Daniels that was about to become public. “So at Trump’s direction, Cohen negotiated a deal to buy Ms. Daniels’s story in order to prevent American voters from learning that information before Election Day,” he says.


“Another story about sexual infidelity, especially with a porn star, on the heels of the ‘Access Hollywood’ tape, could have been devastating to his campaign,” Colangelo says of the Daniels story. He says that “with pressure mounting and Election Day fast approaching, Donald Trump agreed to the payoff and directed Cohen to proceed.”


Someone in the courtroom well giggles as Colangelo says Trump told Cohen to drag out paying Daniels, in the hopes of getting past the election and then not paying her at all.


As Colangelo said that Trump did not want the Stormy Daniels story to come out, Trump pursed his lips and wrote a note on a notepad, which he passed to one of his lawyers, Todd Blanche. He later tapped another lawyer, Emil Bove, on the arm and whispered to him.

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26 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Colangelo is now describing the second “catch-and-kill” deal in question, relating to Karen McDougal, a former Playboy model who said she had an affair with Trump. Colangelo says evidence will show that Trump “desperately” didn’t want that information public. “Before the meeting, during the meeting, after the meeting,” Colangelo says, The National Enquirer publisher was in touch with Michael Cohen, putting this deal right at Trump’s doorstep.

 

Colangelo says Pecker will testify that $150,000 was more than The National Enquirer would typically have paid for such a deal, and that Pecker had trouble being reimbursed for it. Crucially, Colangelo says, Pecker will testify that he spoke to Trump about it.


Colangelo mentions that the alleged affair with Karen McDougal happened while Trump was married. It will be interesting to see how much the prosecutors lean into the idea of infidelity in presenting their case. The sexual encounter that Stormy Daniels describes, in 2006, also would have occured when Trump was married.

 

And obligatory:

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Her PMOY pictorial was something else. But everything Trump touches dies -- Karen M included.

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23 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

i remember being out at ACL when the Access Hollywood story broke and people kind of celebrating when talking about it because we thought he was finally finished.  oh what sweet children we were!

Funny you should mention that.  I was meeting up with a good friend who was giving me a pass to some hospitality area.  And they were like an hour late so I was about to walk to another stage and his wife comes running up to me yelling. “We were watching news at home.  You’re not gonna believe this, he’s toast!”  And she tells me the story as my friend is walking up slowly with more restrained jubilation and gives me the pass and he shows it to me since his C3 wi-fi is much better and plays the video.  I was kinda let down, wasn’t the damming evidence she made it out to be.  I still thought he’d lose anyway no matter the video or lack thereof.  Ignorant suburban women were the deal breaker that enabled Trump.  Still are. 

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2 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

I'm waiting for Stormy to describe that her "sexual encounter" was wallowing around on top of Trump for 30 minutes in a vain attempt to get him hard.

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4 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

What the hell.  I thought I was putting all this in the Indicted thread, which is where it really belongs.  So...off to the Indicted thread.

 

 

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17 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Right. Like when a whole lot of folks on here were predicting she was going to divorce Trump as soon as he left office.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

What? You think THIS will be the final straw?

She knows damn well Trump cheats on her. She doesn’t care. The only thing that bothers her is that these trysts were made public. She responded by renegotiating her prenup. She’s a grifter and a gold digger. She’s not in it for love or honor or dignity or anything noble. She’s in it til the end. The only way she’d ever file for divorce is if Trump were left absolutely penniless with no properties or assets of any kind. She ain’t leaving him before the well has run dry. 

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6 hours ago, BamaATL said:

So today his first criminal trials starts, down the hall his bond is up for rejection, and later this week his ridiculous immunity claim will be heard at the Supreme Court.  It's a good day.  

Don't forget: His puppet in the House grew a spine and approved the Ukraine aid bill, against Trump's master's wishes.

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1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:


 

 

 

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Back when actual twitter users were the top replies and not Elon’s bots selling dick pills and frog memes sucking DJT dick

 

 

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