A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

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On 6/10/2022 at 12:46 AM, Jhawkmvp said:

Well, not since she got old enough to fight back.

i'm convinced jared is a cuck

he's the male version of the fascist karens, vying for most-weasel-looking with sydney krakenbitch

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On 6/10/2022 at 8:50 AM, Red Five said:

Hey we finally have something in common.

every single person on this board, male, female, straight, gay, would grudgefuck/scissor ivanka

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On 6/10/2022 at 8:58 AM, Chad Fuck said:

Man, that short clip of the Kush saying he took the WH counsels threatening to resign as “whining” made me want to punch his face in.

his testimony was likely so revolting that the house committee decided to include just that one clip when it really didn't have much to do with the narrative other than "Jared is a fucking cuck and he pissed us off so badly that we decided to shame his ass in front of the world just for the fuck of it"

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2 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

every single person on this board, male, female, straight, gay, would grudgefuck/scissor ivanka

if time froze and no one would ever know, hell yeah

[WhatTheBuck 28574]

2 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

every single person on this board, male, female, straight, gay, would grudgefuck/scissor ivanka

Not in a million years. She’s a skank. And she might talk. 

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[Underdog 27966]

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Not in a million years. She’s a skank. And she might talk  laugh.

Fixed. 

[RomaVicta 29472]

14 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

Ms. Trump (daughter) was a senior adviser in the White House, and she continued to work in the administration until the end. Her colleagues have recalled her being among those urging White House staff members on election night to “fight” even as it became clear that her father would most likely lose. Her husband, Jared Kushner (son-in-law), who was also a senior adviser in the White House, attended several meetings about postelection strategy with a range of political and West Wing advisers, as well as lawyers like Rudolph W. Giuliani (lunatic).

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the President of the United States' three most valued advisers.

And it's just a footnote to the unquestionably worst presidency in the history of the republic. Harding was merely corrupt. Nixon was power mad. W was an idiot. Trump's naked nepotism is just garden variety chronic corruption that pales beside his attempt to destroy the republic to maintain power or maybe it was just to appease his childish mania for admitting neither mistakes nor defeats.

[WhatTheBuck 28574]

3 hours ago, Underdog said:

Fixed. 

I’d be competing with Jared. I think I’d be okay. But fake tits and dumb-as-a-brick are a turnoff. Ymmv.

[RomaVicta 29472]

2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I’d be competing with Jared. I think I’d be okay. But fake tits and dumb-as-a-brick are a turnoff. Ymmv.

To me, she is like a very lifelike sexbot. 

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54 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

To me, she is like a very lifelike sexbot. 

i will not sit idly by and let you badmouth sexbots.

[WhatTheBuck 28574]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

To me, she is like a very lifelike sexbot. 

Her speech is certainly robotic. It’s cringeworthy. 

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21 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

WASHINGTON — Former President Donald J. Trump, long known for distancing himself from or tossing aside staff members who contradicted him while he was in the White House, discovered a new target on Friday: his elder daughter.

The morning after the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol played recorded video testimony of his daughter, Ivanka Trump, at its prime-time public hearing, Mr. Trump used his social media website to separate himself from what she had said and to say she was “checked out” during the final days of his administration.

In the testimony, Ms. Trump said she was influenced by a Dec. 1, 2020, statement by William P. Barr, then the attorney general, that there was no widespread fraud that had altered the outcome of the election. She testified that she respected Mr. Barr and “accepted what he was saying.”

“Ivanka Trump was not involved in looking at, or studying, Election results,” Mr. Trump wrote on his social media website, Truth Social, in one of eight messages he posted there in response to the hearing. “She had long since checked out and was, in my opinion, only trying to be respectful to Bill Barr and his position as Attorney General (he sucked!).”

Ms. Trump was a senior adviser in the White House, and she continued to work in the administration until the end. Her colleagues have recalled her being among those urging White House staff members on election night to “fight” even as it became clear that her father would most likely lose. Her husband, Jared Kushner, who was also a senior adviser in the White House, attended several meetings about postelection strategy with a range of political and West Wing advisers, as well as lawyers like Rudolph W. Giuliani.

Pushing back on his daughter’s comments was only one way in which Mr. Trump assailed the hearing, the first in a series of sessions to be held by the House committee this month.

He denied having responded approvingly to the “Hang Mike Pence!” chants bellowed about the vice president by some of the rioters at the Capitol on Jan. 6, an account shared during the hearing by Representative Liz Cheney, Republican of Wyoming and the panel’s vice chairwoman.

“I NEVER said, or even thought of saying, ‘Hang Mike Pence,’” Mr. Trump wrote on the social media site. “This is either a made up story by somebody looking to become a star, or FAKE NEWS!”

Ms. Cheney did not say he had used those words, but she quoted testimony that Mr. Trump had responded to the chants by saying that “maybe our supporters have the right idea” and that Mr. Pence “deserves it.”

 

In another post on the site, Mr. Trump described the committee as a “totally partisan, POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!” And in two other posts, he attacked Mr. Barr, calling him a “coward,” “weak and frightened,” “stupid” and “scared stiff of being impeached.”

Trump and the Capitol Attack

 

‘Trump Was at the Center’: Jan. 6 Hearing Lays Out Case in Vivid Detail

June 9, 2022

Trump's "I didn't say 'hang Mike Pence or even think it" isn't what was alleged.  He said Pence "deserved" it.   He's too stupid to adequately deny it.

But that doesn't matter to the MAGAts.

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This might be the funniest thing I've read from this whole shitshow:

 

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17 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

This is clearly getting under Trump’s skin. I hope Desantis makes a move on him soon 

 

desantis / ivanka 2024 ? 

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4 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

This might be the funniest thing I've read from this whole shitshow:

 

gop brains:

he gave hunter biden a pardon = hunter biden is guilty as fuck of a bunch of shady shit and should die in prison

a bunch of gop lawmakers ask for pardons = they didn't do anything wrong, but the libs will investigate you for anything and you need to cover your ass

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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the President of the United States' three most valued advisers.
And it's just a footnote to the unquestionably worst presidency in the history of the republic. Harding was merely corrupt. Nixon was power mad. W was an idiot. Trump's naked nepotism is just garden variety chronic corruption that pales beside his attempt to destroy the republic to maintain power or maybe it was just to appease his childish mania for admitting neither mistakes nor defeats.

I think Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan might be down there w Trump.

And that Andrew Jackson is on our $20 bill is perverse. Jackson was an outright villain.

But at least Jackson was courageous and a patriot. Trump is a rare combo of cowardly, inept, and nefarious.

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5 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

gop brains:

he gave hunter biden a pardon = hunter biden is guilty as fuck of a bunch of shady shit and should die in prison

a bunch of gop lawmakers ask for pardons = they didn't do anything wrong, but the libs will investigate you for anything and you need to cover your ass

Accepting a pardon comes with an admission of guilt, doesn’t it?

[WhatTheBuck 28574]

14 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Accepting a pardon comes with an admission of guilt, doesn’t it?

Not under Trump. 

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10 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

This might be the funniest thing I've read from this whole shitshow:

 

Fine! I'm sooorrry I aaate your fish!

[Blotto 23226]

10 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

This might be the funniest thing I've read from this whole shitshow:

The absurdity of our political landscape is something else. 

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2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Accepting a pardon comes with an admission of guilt, doesn’t it?

the gop sees pardons like get out of jail free cards in monopoly.  you don't want to have to use it, but it's nice to have just in case.

there are folks right now who have them and if they never see charges, we'll never even know about it.

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2 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:

I think Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan might be down there w Trump.

And that Andrew Jackson is on our $20 bill is perverse. Jackson was an outright villain.

But at least Jackson was courageous and a patriot. Trump is a rare combo of cowardly, inept, and nefarious.

Good post. Should probably throw in Grant as well. I was trying to keep it lean and current, but you're right.

[Eskimohorn 5544]

Good post. Should probably throw in Grant as well. I was trying to keep it lean and current, but you're right.

Grant? He was dealt one of the shittiest hands. He was a good man. Not even close to being the worst.

Historians are trending him upward as they unpack what all he did and didnt do. And southern efforts to besmirch his name in reaction to him kicking their ass before and after the Civil War.

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3 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

the gop sees pardons like get out of jail free cards in monopoly.  you don't want to have to use it, but it's nice to have just in case.

there are folks right now who have them and if they never see charges, we'll never even know about it.

Wait.  There are people with secret, undisclosed pardons?   Pardons are not subject to Freedom of Information?

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Roma, you should really either read or listen to Ron Chernow's biography of Grant. His presidency is severely underrated, as is he as a man. Can't recommend the book enough.

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I thought it was a good joke. Trump is objectively funny, it’s a big part of his appeal. 

He appeals to racists, misogynists, nativists, the stupid, the gullible, and those who pay no attention to anything besides The Masked Singer and Dance/baseball/music recitals for the kids.

His humor is not a factor.

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4 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Good post. Should probably throw in Grant as well. I was trying to keep it lean and current, but you're right.

Harriet Tubman will be joining Jackson on the $20 in the not too distant future. And check this out for grins:

WASHINGTON, June 10 (Reuters) - The Biden administration will scrap a paint scheme for Air Force One proposed by former President Donald Trump, after the Air Force determined the design would create too much heat for the presidential aircraft, a U.S. official said on Friday.

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1 hour ago, Horn Dog said:

Wait.  There are people with secret, undisclosed pardons?   Pardons are not subject to Freedom of Information?

i believe so, but i would be happy to be corrected on the matter by somebody who knows better.

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4 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:

Grant? He was dealt one of the shittiest hands. He was a good man. Not even close to being the worst.

Historians are trending him upward as they unpack what all he did and didnt do. And southern efforts to besmirch his name in reaction to him kicking their ass before and after the Civil War.

35 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

Roma, you should really either read or listen to Ron Chernow's biography of Grant. His presidency is severely underrated, as is he as a man. Can't recommend the book enough.

Southern efforts to tarnish his reputation were very effective.

I saw an interview with I think I twas Shelby Foote where he even mentioned that it caused a lot of problems for historians (and it wasn't just Grant), and it was not something that happened just after the Civil War - the efforts to tarnish Grant and others coincided with efforts decades after the CW to put up monuments/statues/etc. everywhere.

[henrygandorf 28609]

history is written by the winners, but what this book presupposes is, maybe it isn't? 

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1 hour ago, trauma babe said:

Roma, you should really either read or listen to Ron Chernow's biography of Grant. His presidency is severely underrated, as is he as a man. Can't recommend the book enough.

I watched a Drunk History episode on Grant.  I think that would also suffice and be about 12 hours quicker than reading a Chernow book.

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6 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

the gop sees pardons like get out of jail free cards in monopoly.  you don't want to have to use it, but it's nice to have just in case.

there are folks right now who have them and if they never see charges, we'll never even know about it.

 

[RomaVicta 29472]

I didn't know Tubman's story until the last few years. They should consider putting her image on the Congressional Medal of Honor. 

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3 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

Wait.  There are people with secret, undisclosed pardons?   Pardons are not subject to Freedom of Information?

It’s an unknown but many think that someone producing a previously secret pardon wouldn’t be accepted by the DOJ and the courts. in theory it gives an ex-president continued pardon power as long as the crime occurred before he left office and he was willing to lie about the pardon.

and if you’re the person receiving the secret pardon, wouldn’t you want it to be fully legal by having it disclosed?

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4 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

Wait.  There are people with secret, undisclosed pardons?

Something like this:

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7 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

It’s an unknown but many think that someone producing a previously secret pardon wouldn’t be accepted by the DOJ and the courts. in theory it gives an ex-president continued pardon power as long as the crime occurred before he left office and he was willing to lie about the pardon.

and if you’re the person receiving the secret pardon, wouldn’t you want it to be fully legal by having it disclosed?

But aren't people that are pardoned no longer able to claim 5th amendment protection over their conduct in that investigation? 

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8 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

I didn't know Tubman's story until the last few years. They should consider putting her image on the Congressional Medal of Honor. 

Really? That’s wild. I learned her story in grade school growing up in northern Indiana. Maybe 5th grade. We took a field trip to Fort Wayne one time to visit the fort and while we were there we also visited some old house that used to be a stop on the Underground Railroad.

It would be years later before I learned about the lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith in Marion, IN. 

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20 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

the gop sees pardons like get out of jail free cards in monopoly.  you don't want to have to use it, but it's nice to have just in case.

there are folks right now who have them and if they never see charges, we'll never even know about it.

Yeah I don’t think this is true. That was a plot device in some Tom Clancy movie

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15 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

watched a Drunk History episode on Grant.  I think that would also suffice and be about 12 hours quicker than reading a Chernow book.

The point of the Chernow book is that it's a slog - which is sort of what Grant's trajectory was.  I think you need to go through that slog to get an idea of Grant's greatness.

Although perhaps the most interesting thing learned was what a great man Sherman was.  Fuck the haters.  I wish Sherman was the Attorney General.  Trump would be holed up in Eritrea.

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35 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

The point of the Chernow book is that it's a slog - which is sort of what Grant's trajectory was.  I think you need to go through that slog to get an idea of Grant's greatness.

Although perhaps the most interesting thing learned was what a great man Sherman was.  Fuck the haters.  I wish Sherman was the Attorney General.  Trump would be holed up in Eritrea.

I think "slog" does a disservice to Chernow's writing. It's a vividly written and beyond fascinating accounting of the man's life.

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6 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Really? That’s wild. I learned her story in grade school growing up in northern Indiana. Maybe 5th grade. We took a field trip to Fort Wayne one time to visit the fort and while we were there we also visited some old house that used to be a stop on the Underground Railroad.

It would be years later before I learned about the lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith in Marion, IN. 

Growing up in Texas, which I used to not consider an actual Southern state, we didn't get a whole lot of education about the Civil War as I recall. Maybe I forgot it all, but I don't think that's the case.

I'm a boomer, so it's quite awhile back that I was in public school. I recall lessons on scalawags and carpet baggers. Somewhere along the line I picked up that the only reason the South lost was because of the North's industrial power and manpower. There was something about the underground railroad and a few other things, but not much detail about slavery or the black heroes on either side of the Mason Dixon Line.

Traveling from east from Houston you'd see the image below on many items at the Stuckey's chain of roadside stops.

Of course there were Confederate flags etc. I think we were presented that time in history through the lenses of wounded pride at having lost and denial of slavery being the hell that it actually was.

Sadly, as we've seen, that mindset remains vital for some southerners.

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1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

The point of the Chernow book is that it's a slog - which is sort of what Grant's trajectory was.  I think you need to go through that slog to get an idea of Grant's greatness.

Although perhaps the most interesting thing learned was what a great man Sherman was.  Fuck the haters.  I wish Sherman was the Attorney General.  Trump would be holed up in Eritrea.

I think the Plains Tribes may disagree with you a bit on how great a man Sherman was.

[hookem2010 2510]

And to get back on topic, may Hell exist if only for Trump and his cronies to experience eternal retribution.

[WhatTheBuck 28574]

10 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Growing up in Texas, which I used to not consider an actual Southern state, we didn't get a whole lot of education about the Civil War as I recall. Maybe I forgot it all, but I don't think that's the case.

I'm a boomer, so it's quite awhile back that I was in public school. I recall lessons on scalawags and carpet baggers. Somewhere along the line I picked up that the only reason the South lost was because of the North's industrial power and manpower. There was something about the underground railroad and a few other things, but not much detail about slavery or the black heroes on either side of the Mason Dixon Line.

Traveling from east from Houston you'd see the image below on many items at the Stuckey's chain of roadside stops.

Of course there were Confederate flags etc. I think we were presented that time in history through the lenses of wounded pride at having lost and denial of slavery being the hell that it actually was.

Sadly, as we've seen, that mindset remains vital for some southerners.

Pretty stark cultural differences. In the last couple decades I’ve lamented what I call the southernification of the North.

When Columbus got a pro hockey team, they called them the Blue Jackets. I wasn’t happy with that name. The minor league hockey team was called the Columbus Chill and I thought it would make sense for the pro hockey team to be called the Columbus Freeze. But the justification was that they used to make Union Army uniforms in Columbus.

I’ve since warmed up to the name so I can remind my Trump-supporting friends and family that we’re a Union State and if you’re on the side of anyone waving the Confederate flag then you’re on the wrong side.

Too bad the team sucks. 

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Never should have pardoned these assclowns.

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[Longhorn_Fan68 33693]

you can say that again!

[The Original Greaser Bob 2672]

2 hours ago, trauma babe said:

I think "slog" does a disservice to Chernow's writing. It's a vividly written and beyond fascinating accounting of the man's life.

It's long.  The comment was referring to another comment which found it wasn't short enough.  The slog reflects his long and sometimes tortured and yes interesting career. 

It's a great book.  And very well written.

[Aqua Buddha 13897]

23 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

you can say that again!

Drat: