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40 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Ani has a point. Don’t you remember when the United States sent in the military and took over the legislative functions of Russia and forced them all into that model?   Remember when we put on the sanctions unless they created oligarchs and threatened economic ruin to everyone unless they did the United States bidding in the minutest detail when creating the new Russia?  Remember how the US had to show our handpick oligarchsRussian history books to explain what a Boyer was? Remember how there was no corruption in Russia, no Russian mob, and no attempts to grift or cheat the state before the Americans interfered in the 1990s?

If you think about it, poor innocent Russia was just waiting for a western style democracy to happen - and when it happened, the United States took control of the entirety of the former Soviet Union and changed its entire culture in a decade. These are important facts to consider when looking at the Russian-Ukraine war.  

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But Anastasis doesn’t even have to take my word for it.  Putin explained why he invaded for 90 minutes to Tucker Carlson, which was the perfect venue to rant about NATO and shock therapy.  Instead he explained that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he took it because Russia wanted it, with references to Rurik and the Zaporizhian Sich.  It’s absolutely incredible how asshole Russophiles simply refuse to let the man speak for himself. 

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The democracies of the world should pull off the gloves and plaster pics of Putin’s victims - maimed, injured and murdered children, every damn where. And while we’re at it, we should do the same in Gaza.

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15 minutes ago, Satchel said:

The democracies of the world should pull off the gloves and plaster pics of Putin’s victims - maimed, injured and murdered children, every damn where. And while we’re at it, we should do the same in Gaza.

Are there even any walls left in Gaza where posters could be plastered?

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6 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

I've had about enough of this Ana asshole.  Fucking putinist piece of shit.

I hope that you are able to find some peace. 

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On 3/7/2025 at 8:01 AM, South Austin said:

Fucker probably has his eye on some cheap cleared land in Manhattan.

He'll have to fight whatever is left of Bill Snyder's family for it.

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7 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Russia’s behavior is a choice made by Russians.  Poor, persecuted Russia is not forced to march into its much smaller neighbors and take things to defend itself. It does that because for centuries it has been a predatory, expansionist empire and Russians continue to see the world in those terms. 

At a certain point it just has to be realized that this is who Russia is. How many times have we had people just on this site trying to remind us that this is who that country is. Hundreds of years of being ruled by strongmen (and women) has made them EXACTLY WHO THEY ARE.

This is not to mean every individual Russian goes along with how they are as a society and country. I have a friend that is an American citizen now, but she grew up in Russia. She does not really identify with any of these normalized Russian values of hate and degradation. This is who Russia is and I applaud Europe for finally at least taking a stand politically. Now they'll likely have to back that up with military force at some point because dictators like Putin only understand power through a show of force. That is something I hope does not happen, but Europe has had so many wars in its history that you can just not rule out anything with so many different cultures and countries having to agree on what to do here.

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17 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

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The Ukrainian War has been the most successful and cost effective war for the United States with the exception of the Revolutionary War. We were putting in the final nails into the coffin of the Russian non-nuclear military when Trump took office.

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Good to see that 986 just relegated to rolling out propaganda artistry again. And who laps that shti up. 

“Russia has agency”
”That’s just obvious propaganda!”

This. It’s fantastic. Did not address any of the substantive points made, just dismissed it all out of hand as propaganda. Including the part where 956 suggested that maybe, if you’d like to understand Russia’s motives and perspective, we should listen to its autocratic leader’s words.
And those words, from his mouth, are apparently - to Ana - American imperialist propaganda.
The beclowning is spectacular.
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Y’all got to really admire the Aggy audacity of dismissing the warnings of Kennan, Cohen and a litany of cold wars diplomats as “Putin talking points, right off Lavrovs desk” and then in the next breath regurgitating literal Putin media talking points from a Tucker fn Carlson interview. 

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Y’all got to really admire the Aggy audacity of dismissing the warnings of Kennan, Cohen and a litany of cold wars diplomats as “Putin talking points, right off Lavrovs desk” and then in the next breath regurgitating literal Putin media talking points from a Tucker fn Carlson interview. 

As you completely sidestep you calling his actual words western propaganda.
Perfection.
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I will fully cop to believing that refusing to believe what Russians say to each other in favor of Western technocratic explanations that we understand better is a big reason why we are all here today.
 

The thing is that Russia doesn’t need a reason to invade its neighbors.  When Russia is weak, it lashes out.  When it’s strong, it takes what it can.  When Russias neighbors start to get too strong, Russia gets nervous and attacks.  When Russia’s neighbors are too weak Russia seizes the opportunity. Russia, contrary to Russophiles’ fantasy, is a massive and well-armed nation that has more and not less agency than all of its neighbors.  
 

The only field-tested way to keep Russia in its box is to extend the Western deterrent, clearly and decisively.   

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24 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Y’all got to really admire the Aggy audacity of dismissing the warnings of Kennan, Cohen and a litany of cold wars diplomats as “Putin talking points, right off Lavrovs desk” and then in the next breath regurgitating literal Putin media talking points from a Tucker fn Carlson interview. 

Is this a real post? Holy shit 

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53 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 


This. It’s fantastic. Did not address any of the substantive points made, just dismissed it all out of hand as propaganda. Including the part where 956 suggested that maybe, if you’d like to understand Russia’s motives and perspective, we should listen to its autocratic leader’s words.
And those words, from his mouth, are apparently - to Ana - American imperialist propaganda.
The beclowning is spectacular.

 

My favorite part of Ana’s bit is his firm belief that imperialism and interventionism is bad but at the same time Russia should get to explicitly tell Poles, Czechs, Balts, Ukrainians, Moldovans, and anyone else within their “near abroad” what  alliance they can join. 

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3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The Ukrainian War has been the most successful and cost effective war for the United States with the exception of the Revolutionary War. We were putting in the final nails into the coffin of the Russian non-nuclear military when Trump took office.

They're doing so well that they've invited North Korean and Syrian troops to join in the fun!

No person who cares about the long term interests of the US would oppose supporting Ukraine. 

I make the guess that defense industry guy voted Trump. A lot of sales are now ceasing. Fuck you.

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38 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Y’all got to really admire the Aggy audacity of dismissing the warnings of Kennan, Cohen and a litany of cold wars diplomats as “Putin talking points, right off Lavrovs desk” and then in the next breath regurgitating literal Putin media talking points from a Tucker fn Carlson interview. 


Holy fuck ... dude you are twisted.

Here is the text of Putin's actual fucking interview.

https://www.rev.com/transcripts/tucker-carlson-interviews-vladimir-putin-transcript

Here's the BBC fact check of that interview.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68255302


I hope this helps, but I don't think it will. 




 

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Holy shit it is unreal how much Marco is debasing himself. 
 

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What’s with these fuckheads and the “say thank you” garbage?

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6 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Holy shit it is unreal how much Marco is debasing himself. 
 

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Marco saying the quiet part out loud wrt Russian expansion.

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3 minutes ago, royiv said:

What’s with these fuckheads and the “say thank you” garbage?

It's how fuckheads think having power works.

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9 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Marco saying the quiet part out loud wrt Russian expansion.

QFMFT ... I was told by the GQP that Russia just wanted a buffer between themselves and NATO, and Ukraine's ambitions of joining NATO were the cause for Russia having to "defend itself" by invading Ukraine.  You're telling me now that Russia wants to be "on the border with Poland"?  The hell, you say.

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My favorite part of Ana’s bit is his firm belief that imperialism and interventionism is bad but at the same time Russia should get to explicitly tell Poles, Czechs, Balts, Ukrainians, Moldovans, and anyone else within their “near abroad” what  alliance they can join. 

Again…irony is dead.
Anything America does abroad is evil American imperialism….including accepting other states into alliance as chosen by those states (like Poland and the Baltics…who MAYBE have significant reason to turn away from Russia).

Russian imperialism by open conquest, threats and intimidation…well, that’s natural, and they cannot help it, and the world should accommodate and coddle them, and apologize for being in their way.
It’s just f’n awesome to watch.
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So transparent. "So we're gonna take your shit, and Russia is going to take your shit. Also we want you to resign. Also, if you have any young daughters, we'll need them too." 

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The only field-tested way to keep Russia in its box is to extend the Western deterrent, clearly and decisively.   

Certainly, 1000,000 Russian casualties and the elimination of their modern tanks and APCs and fighter-bombers  and naval assets is a pretty damn good adjunct.

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52 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Holy shit it is unreal how much Marco is debasing himself. 
 

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Surely the US Secretary of State knows that Russia is already on the border with Poland, right?

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But maybe I assume too much.

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1 minute ago, Party_Taco said:

Ukraine should tell them to kick rocks with that deal.

What is being demanded of Russia? What do they have to give up? You know, the invading country. Who invaded our democratic ally. 

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What is being demanded of Russia? Quid pro quos for Dotard. That is 100% certainty.
Dotard delivers Ukraine to Putin. Putin delivers wealth to Dotard. Everything Dotard does is 1) purely transactional, and 2) for personal benefit.

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3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

What is being demanded of Russia? What do they have to give up? You know, the invading country. Who invaded our democratic ally. 

Vlad has to give up sweets for lent. Except on Fridays. That’s a cheat day.

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Since Annie loves him some George Kennan, let’s read some of his Long Telegram:

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After establishment of Bolshevist regime, Marxist dogma, rendered even more truculent and intolerant by Lenin's interpretation, became a perfect vehicle for sense of insecurity with which Bolsheviks, even more than previous Russian rulers, were afflicted. In this dogma, with its basic altruism of purpose, they found justification for their instinctive fear of outside world, for the dictatorship without which they did not know how to rule, for cruelties they did not dare not to inflict, for sacrifice they felt bound to demand. In the name of Marxism they sacrificed every single ethical value in their methods and tactics. Today they cannot dispense with it. It is fig leaf of their moral and intellectual respectability. Without it they would stand before history, at best, as only the last of that long succession of cruel and wasteful Russian rulers who have relentlessly forced country on to ever new heights of military power in order to guarantee external security of their internally weak regimes. This is why Soviet purposes most always be solemnly clothed in trappings of Marxism, and why no one should underrate importance of dogma in Soviet affairs. Thus Soviet leaders are driven [by?] necessities of their own past and present position to put forward which [apparent omission] outside world as evil, hostile and menacing, but as bearing within itself germs of creeping disease and destined to be wracked with growing internal convulsions until it is given final Coup de grace by rising power of socialism and yields to new and better world. This thesis provides justification for that increase of military and police power of Russian state, for that isolation of Russian population from outside world, and for that fluid and constant pressure to extend limits of Russian police power which are together the natural and instinctive urges of Russian rulers. Basically this is only the steady advance of uneasy Russian nationalism, a centuries old movement in which conceptions of offense and defense are inextricably confused. But in new guise of international Marxism, with its honeyed promises to a desperate and war torn outside world, it is more dangerous and insidious than ever before.

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“Basically this is only the steady advance of uneasy Russian nationalism, a centuries old movement in which conceptions of offense and defense are inextricably confused.”

Ani - ‘So let’s let Russia do what it wants to do’

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On 3/8/2025 at 11:51 AM, Willfully Horn said:


Motion to change the name turnip to krashnov.

 

Alex Mussayev

Biography in quotes and reason for motion below. All this info is pulled from Wikipedia.

In 2025, Mussayev claimed that Donald Trump had been recruited by the KGB when he visited "Moscow as a real estate developer in 1987" and was given the codename "Krasnov". Several sources note that he doesn't provide any clear evidence to support his claim.[a] "Mussayev did not specify that Trump actively or knowingly participated in any espionage activities or provide examples, only that he was recruited",[10] claims that are also asserted by former KGB spies Yuri Shvets[9][16][17][18] and Sergei Zhyrnov.[19] Mussayev also asserted that Trump is compromised:

Although the credibility of the 'Steele dossier' has been vehemently contested by Trump supporters, especially for its use of anonymous sources, Mussayev confirms the existence of kompromat on Trump...:
'I have no doubt that Russia has kompromat on the US President, that over the course of many years the Kremlin has been promoting Trump to the post of President of the main world power.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alnur_Mussayev#Krasnov

The whole Steele Dossier is such a red herring.  Yes, pretty much complete bullshit.

But turns out they were on the right track.  Loads of subsequent evidence of Russian work on behalf of Trump.  And whether it was knowingly accepted by Trumpco (at least some of it surely was), thoroughly supports the Russian stooge notion.

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34 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The whole Steele Dossier is such a red herring.  Yes, pretty much complete bullshit.

But turns out they were on the right track.  Loads of subsequent evidence of Russian work on behalf of Trump.  And whether it was knowingly accepted by Trumpco (at least some of it surely was), thoroughly supports the Russian stooge notion.

I mean they literally had a meeting with Russians about lifting the Magnitsky act in exchange for dirt on Hillary. Of course he’s a Russian stooge.

Don’t forget trump tower Moscow 

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8 hours ago, royiv said:

What’s with these fuckheads and the “say thank you” garbage?

Ties into the lies about nobody respecting the US unless there's a maniac GOP in office. Recall the claims that the US walked around with a "kick me" sticker on their back until Reagan came got tough with everybody. Nobody pays their share. Everybody is ripping us off. 

See a man (white) sitting in front of the TV. Now see who he really is: a pimply-faced, skinny teenage boy very insecure about his standing and manliness. Any vicarious, puffed out chest action done in his name is welcome. No questions asked.

U-S-A!   U-S-A!  U-S-A!  U-S-A!

If the terrorists were to destroy a couple of skyscrapers today, I wonder how much of Europe and the Americas would cheer.

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7 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Holy shit it is unreal how much Marco is debasing himself. 
 

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At least he got to be Secretary of State. Anastasis does it on a declining internet  sports forum for free. 

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6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

At least he got to be Secretary of State. Anastasis does it on a declining internet  sports forum for free. 

It’s the friends we make along the way. 

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6 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Since Annie loves him some George Kennan, let’s read some of his Long Telegram:

Smart dude, huh?  Too bad we didn’t heed his insight and prescience. We fumbled the bag. But hey, the last couple years have a super high cost effectiveness ratio if you discount Ukrainian lives to zero in your model. Ghouls. 

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/05/opinion/a-fateful-error.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/02/opinion/foreign-affairs-now-a-word-from-x.html

 

 

 

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