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Finally caught up on the new episodes. Bix’s arc is remarkable. She’s gone through some real trauma: torture, sexual assault, guilt over taking a life, drug abuse, and she has emerged a stone cold killer. Unfortunately I think I know where that arc is headed. 

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35 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Unfortunately not enough people are watching, especially for a $645M show:

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/samba-tv-andor-s2-disney-premiere-viewership-equals-s1-below-the-mandalorian/

Personally, I don’t like the three-episode drop model.  Love the show, but I wonder if the distribution model doesn’t allow buzz to generate over the week and get viewership traction over 12 weeks instead of 4.

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7 minutes ago, Upgrayedd said:

Personally, I don’t like the three-episode drop model.  Love the show, but I wonder if the distribution model doesn’t allow buzz to generate over the week and get viewership traction over 12 weeks instead of 4.

Except the way it’s set up, this wouldn’t work for 12 weeks. You need the middle episode to set up the third episode each week. It would not be effective weekly 

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The great thing about this show is Disney absolutely doesn't care about viewership. This is all about being creative and having a prestige TV program. It's also about telling a great story and we've seen that's not always something that garners high ratings. I wish we didn't give a shit about ratings. I never heard about it when the Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, and Mad Men were in their prime. 

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Hard to get the next pricey prestige show funded when no one watched the last one. 
 

Maybe they will create some sort of reality tv show. Real Housewives of Coruscant. 

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You cannot compare the streaming views now versus shows that ran on cable TV and ended almost 20 years ago.  Different mediums, different viewers. 

Streaming means it's not exactly "watch it when it's on or you have to wait a while to find it."  Some people may be waiting for it to finish to binge or wait for the weekend, since it's 2.5 hours of TV.

Also whatever, it's on par with season 1's viewerships for the first episodes, on par with Ahsoka and trails only Mando and Obi-Wan.  SW fatigue, the 3 episode runs on one night, whatever. 

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7 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Hard to get the next pricey prestige show funded when no one watched the last one. 
 

Maybe they will create some sort of reality tv show. Real Housewives of Coruscant. 

There won't be any more of these from Disney+. Ahsoka season 2 is probably the end of the line for a while for TV shows. Maybe they'll do some one off limited series like the SW horror series that's in production. Disney already flipped back to the theatrical model for Star Wars. That's why the Mandalorian is a movie now and not another season. Best we can hope for now is animated series like Maul. 

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And that too - the movie franchise to TV show model just isn't working for Disney.  The MCU shows mostly bombed, especially the latter ones, and they transitioned their most popular SW show back to the big screen. 

They are doing the same for their original IP too - fewer long-form shows, more animated movies. 

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2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Finally caught up on the new episodes. Bix’s arc is remarkable. She’s gone through some real trauma: torture, sexual assault, guilt over taking a life, drug abuse, and she has emerged a stone cold killer. Unfortunately I think I know where that arc is headed. 

I wonder if she's going to end up being a sleeper agent, along the lines of Ysanne Isard's antics in the old Rogue Squadron book series. Thematically it would line up, right down to a loved one being forced to put them down

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If you just want to bitch about Disney, you can do it somewhere else

Meanwhile:

‘Andor’ Has Pulled in Over $300 Million in Subscriber Revenue for Disney+ | Parrot Analytics’ Streaming Economics system calculates the 'Star Wars' show drives more revenue than 'Ahsoka' & 'The Book of Boba Fett'

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The Watch does a really good breakdown on the last arc. I normally don't want to listen this intently to breakdowns of content I watch but there's so many layers to Andor and the writing that it's great to get this kind of detail. Gilroy has really built this show on show much history that's come before like the French resistance, double agents, and propaganda. 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/178MGIi610urK95yhGmVUL?si=c152a40888cb44d3

 

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Why would Disney or any streaming service care if people watch on opening day? It's not like they are selling time-sensitive commercials during the show's live airing. It's about new and retained subscriptions and number of total views over time indicate the relative value to other shows.

With due respect to Buzzrock, I've thought Andor, Mando, and Ahsoka were great and BOBF and Acolyte were worth watching once. I'm also a SW addict and will watch any content even if it's "shitty."

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5 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Finally caught up on the new episodes. Bix’s arc is remarkable. She’s gone through some real trauma: torture, sexual assault, guilt over taking a life, drug abuse, and she has emerged a stone cold killer. Unfortunately I think I know where that arc is headed. 

Well given I am pretty sure Cassian and new Bix (Jyn Erso with her life of pain and similar stone cold killer abilities) are falling for each other near the end of R1 it’s pretty safe to say Bix is eliminated. 

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3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Well given I am pretty sure Cassian and new Bix (Jyn Erso with her life of pain and similar stone cold killer abilities) are falling for each other near the end of R1 it’s pretty safe to say Bix is eliminated. 

If they weren't in R1, they gonna die

That's my guess.

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3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Well given I am pretty sure Cassian and new Bix (Jyn Erso with her life of pain and similar stone cold killer abilities) are falling for each other near the end of R1 it’s pretty safe to say Bix is eliminated. 

There was an interesting quote from Diego Luna in the YouTube clip posted above when he said something like, "Andor is a story of love in a time of rebellion." I suppose there's no rule about falling in love a second time during the same, so yeah, that checks out. After all, the whole thing is a state of heightened emotions.

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On 4/30/2025 at 2:54 PM, Js1 said:

The convo with her and Partagaz made me thinks this happens and Syril turns.   That she betrays him or allows him to be collateral damage if needed to further the ISB's agenda and he realizes her/The Empire are ruthless enough to let him die to achieve their goals.

Yep, Syril will realize he’s fucking Mongo to Dedra and my prediction is he’s ultimately involved in helping put some people in place to get “the plans” 

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If you think back to last season it’s at about this point in the season arc that we got a surprise relationship we didn’t previously know existed (in that case it was that Vel is Mon’s cousin). Could we be about to get another perhaps bigger one?

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2 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Dedra didn't seem to like it when Partagaz complimented Syril. She's gonna turn on him soon enough. 

Mmhm

Syril, you in danger girl

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On 4/30/2025 at 9:02 PM, Derka said:

i was never booted from that thread, and your tantrums about my differing opinions from yours are your own problem. btw you and yours were the only self righteous ones in that thread, and the only ones spazzing out and brining in the personal insults and shit talk, not me. you can very easily put me on ignore if you can’t handle it when i am critical of a tv show that you like, or you can keep acting like a five year old who isn’t getting his way. either way it’s 100% your call.

But….but…but…The Soccer!!!!!

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5 hours ago, mdmost said:

The great thing about this show is Disney absolutely doesn't care about viewership. This is all about being creative and having a prestige TV program. It's also about telling a great story and we've seen that's not always something that garners high ratings. I wish we didn't give a shit about ratings. I never heard about it when the Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, and Mad Men were in their prime. 

This show will be getting ratings hits for a long while.   Released in the middle of spring (high volume sports season in the US) after a multi-year hiatus.   People will be catching up on it all summer and into the fall.   I’ll probably watch it 2-3 times by then. 

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Partagaz is a great character and actor. He’s totally different than Qyburn. Between him and Luthen, fantastic acting.

Dedra always looks like she’s smelling a fart. Hard pass. 

Mendelsohn is a weird actor. He always seems like he’s trying WAY too hard, whether as Krennic or Danny Rayburn. 

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2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Partagaz is a great character and actor. He’s totally different than Qyburn. Between him and Luthen, fantastic acting.

Dedra always looks like she’s smelling a fart. Hard pass. 

Mendelsohn is a weird actor. He always seems like he’s trying WAY too hard, whether as Krennic or Danny Rayburn. 

Holy shit I forgot that was Qyburn. 

I think they have her make that face on purpose. Either way still would. 

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On 4/30/2025 at 8:57 PM, Buzzrock said:

I got a chuckle out of the resistance being “French”. Down with the imperial bourgeoise! Madame lightsaber sees us all as equals!

I’m pretty sure the leader is the Nazi who was beaten to death by the Bear Jew. 
 

Dedra isn’t even top 5 on my Andor fan fic list. 

Correct about the Ghorman leader dude being the guy that gets Teddy Baseball’d in Inglourious 

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On 4/30/2025 at 6:57 PM, Buzzrock said:

Dedra isn’t even top 5 on my Andor fan fic list. 

Got me making a think

 

1. Mon Mothma

2. Cinta (honestly 1a/1b thing here)

3. Bix (1c?)

4. The Hostess from S1E1&2

5. Kleya

Posted (edited)

Umm the answer is Bix. 
 

Mon is attractive but she’s skin and bones. 
 

Also realize Dedra is getting frau’d out pretty hard with her makeup and costume design. 
 

I like Cinta. She’s not Bix though. 

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