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4 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:


Follow your instructions or you’ll get a dry socket and want someone to shoot you in the head. My DiL is a dentist and I’ve heard the screams from a dry socket.

No smoking. No vaping. No sucking on a straw. No eating until told to. Do your saline rinses.

when I had mine removed I was full of vicodin and kentucky deluxe and taking bong rips mere hours after getting out of the chair.  no dry sockets and had a blast. 

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19 minutes ago, mchookem said:

i'll be starting this show soon...i honestly had zero idea what it was even about before last night, i would never have guessed lol

just go in and enjoy.

let us know how it goes... 

i started episode 1.. next thing i know im on 5... haha..

a great quick binge 

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finished tonight. loved it. echo all the comments about the tension. incredible music and camera work. 

i only did about 6mos at Pizza Hut (Guadalupe and MLK haha) as a freshman before moving on so my experience isn't much...but I have heard nothing but horror stories from my sister who did about 10 years various places in Houston, and my niece who is a junior in college but has been in the industry since she was 15. holy crap, the stories are nuts, everything from sex to drugs to harassment and everything in between lol. im glad i just delivered pizzas 😄

 

i have a question, may have missed something... but why was Mikey stuffing money in cans and not paying bills? it seemed like he took the $300k loan from Cicero, then...stuffed the cash in cans?? like...why? Cicero said he was going to have to hold Carmy responsible for that, so won't he just have to pay that and everything else back with the newfound cash? 🤔 

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10 minutes ago, mchookem said:

why was Mikey stuffing money in cans and not paying bills?

My opinion is he was ratholeing the cash for Carm to open a new restaurant. He knew he and Cuz didn't have what it took do do that and the only thing that would bring Carm back to Chicago was committing suicide. ymmv

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Binged recently and really liked it, but I also hope they explain the money better. Seems to me he'd owe it to Cicero and I doubt it's substantially more than $300K. The Richie character really grinds on me but mostly because I knew someone almost exactly like him in real life growing up and it was a real beating being around him, loud, obnoxious, overconfident, and a complete asshole most of the time. In context of the show though, I think it's good acting, assuming he's not like that in real life. 

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I said this before upthread. I think the idea is Carmy sells the existing spot to Cicero to make him whole. Cicero wanted the spot so he could get his money back and had been hounding Carmy to sell since other developers are buying up the area. So sell the spot to Cicero which makes him whole, use the cans to open the new spot without any of the baggage hanging over it. Cicero will probably wonder where the money came from but he got his money back so what does it matter.

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On 1/19/2023 at 10:29 AM, mdmost said:

I said this before upthread. I think the idea is Carmy sells the existing spot to Cicero to make him whole. Cicero wanted the spot so he could get his money back and had been hounding Carmy to sell since other developers are buying up the area. So sell the spot to Cicero which makes him whole, use the cans to open the new spot without any of the baggage hanging over it. Cicero will probably wonder where the money came from but he got his money back so what does it matter.

it’s an interesting thought but no, this isn’t how it will happen. 

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Watched this last year, and have popped into this thread every now and then to see what others are catching.  I worked in restaurants from 14-28, ranging from sub shops (not Subway - a solo/family type operation), to hospital kitchens, to Tex-Mex, to fine-ish dining w/ actual head chef/sous chef/baker etc.  My biggest issue w/ the show is there's no need for a chef structure at a hot beef spot and zero reason for Carmen to be making the extra recipes.  No reason for the stress going on - the place has like 3 things on the menu and seating for like 10? 15?  It should be easy as fuck to run it.  Chicken piccata?  Short ribs and risotto?  Chilean sea bass?  WTF?

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On 1/19/2023 at 7:50 AM, 'stache said:

Binged recently and really liked it, but I also hope they explain the money better. Seems to me he'd owe it to Cicero and I doubt it's substantially more than $300K. The Richie character really grinds on me but mostly because I knew someone almost exactly like him in real life growing up and it was a real beating being around him, loud, obnoxious, overconfident, and a complete asshole most of the time. In context of the show though, I think it's good acting, assuming he's not like that in real life. 

he was great in the dropout and played a completely different type of role.

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18 minutes ago, Mittens said:

My biggest issue w/ the show is there's no need for a chef structure at a hot beef spot and zero reason for Carmen to be making the extra recipes.  No reason for the stress going on - the place has like 3 things on the menu and seating for like 10? 15?  It should be easy as fuck to run it.  Chicken piccata?  Short ribs and risotto?  Chilean sea bass?  WTF?

Running a money losing, out of date South Side locals joint is easy. Transforming it into profitable Michelin dining without destroying the family and crew is very hard. (the bar next door closed and is prime for expansion)

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14 minutes ago, RPM said:

Running a money losing, out of date South Side locals joint is easy. Transforming it into profitable Michelin dining without destroying the family and crew is very hard. (the bar next door closed and is prime for expansion)

Fair enough, but you'll have to refresh my memory as it's been a minute...  That wasn't Carmen's plan all along, was it?  He was broke until the last 15 minutes of the show, yes?  I absolutely could have missed/forgotten that plot line, but I don't recall an overarching goal of turning The Beef into a high end eatery.  My recollection is that he was trying to keep it afloat, clean it up, make it more efficient so that it was profitable.  

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8 hours ago, Mittens said:

Fair enough, but you'll have to refresh my memory as it's been a minute...  That wasn't Carmen's plan all along, was it?  He was broke until the last 15 minutes of the show, yes?  I absolutely could have missed/forgotten that plot line, but I don't recall an overarching goal of turning The Beef into a high end eatery.  My recollection is that he was trying to keep it afloat, clean it up, make it more efficient so that it was profitable.  

I watched the show for the first time this week and loved it. I think Carmy eventually wanted to make it a profitable, good restaurant. He's also in no spot to fully achieve what he wants to because he hasn't dealt with the trauma of his brother's death. He can very clearly compartmentalize things which is how achieved the greatness as a chef that he did, but he clearly struggles with a lot of things and it's likely due to the trauma he hasn't dealt with. Slowly he gets the restaurant from a beloved shithole to a functional joint, but I think the plan was always to make it something elevated.

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On 1/20/2023 at 11:52 AM, Mittens said:

Watched this last year, and have popped into this thread every now and then to see what others are catching.  I worked in restaurants from 14-28, ranging from sub shops (not Subway - a solo/family type operation), to hospital kitchens, to Tex-Mex, to fine-ish dining w/ actual head chef/sous chef/baker etc.  My biggest issue w/ the show is there's no need for a chef structure at a hot beef spot and zero reason for Carmen to be making the extra recipes.  No reason for the stress going on - the place has like 3 things on the menu and seating for like 10? 15?  It should be easy as fuck to run it.  Chicken piccata?  Short ribs and risotto?  Chilean sea bass?  WTF?

No restaurant experience, minor foodie, very minor and I agree with this take.

It is plausible, I think, that a CdC like Carmy comes and makes a Chicago Beef place better/great and award-winning, but there really doesn't seem to be any call whatsoever to try to integrate haute cuisine.  There are a number of chef-run/influenced lowbrow cuisine places that are pretty damned successful, but I am unaware of anything that transitioned from burgers to haute cuisine, or even combined them to any degree.

It looks like "the Beef" plotline may have closed, so we won't have to deal with that little bit of weirdness in the future.

That said, a very good show.  White is just fantastic and I think will be a generational actor.  Edibiri is very good also, individually, as is the cast as an ensemble.  Good stuff.

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On 1/20/2023 at 9:05 PM, ATLLonghorn said:

I watched the show for the first time this week and loved it. I think Carmy eventually wanted to make it a profitable, good restaurant. He's also in no spot to fully achieve what he wants to because he hasn't dealt with the trauma of his brother's death. He can very clearly compartmentalize things which is how achieved the greatness as a chef that he did, but he clearly struggles with a lot of things and it's likely due to the trauma he hasn't dealt with. Slowly he gets the restaurant from a beloved shithole to a functional joint, but I think the plan was always to make it something elevated.

Just an add-on to this.  It's not just the trauma of his death.  Mikey was an addict doing addict things and wreaking havoc on his family.  Even if he were still alive, there's substantial trauma that needs to be worked through.  With his death, that gets raised a level and additional trauma piled on.

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