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On 4/4/2023 at 9:45 AM, tokamak said:
  1. Make public education shitty on purpose
  2. "pUbLiC eDUcaTiON iS FaiLiNG oUR KiDs!!!"
  3. Dismantle public education entirely
  4. ...
  5. Profit!

 

On 4/5/2023 at 9:44 AM, Nivek said:

4) send public money to private schools that are handpicked from right-wing donors and enjoy the campaign contributions.

I’m watching the money angle.  This is all about the money and they are running the same playbook that created the

  • war on drugs ->private prisons and 3 strikes your out judges get kick backs for keeping them full
  • neglected infrastructure -> private toll roads with public guaranteed bonds. Invest public money and privatize the profit while making sure your donors own the land on the right of way
  • Kill public education -> transfer tax money to private schools run by your donor base
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At the first board meeting in January with Witt as superintendent, the board voted to adopt the American Birthright social studies curriculum standard. No social studies teachers had been consulted prior to the vote, according to three current employees and an administrator who asked to speak anonymously to protect their employment.

American Birthright materials emphasize patriotism, argue that the federal government should have no authority over public schools and say teachers should not encourage civic engagement, such as registering to vote or petitioning local lawmakers on issues students care about.

“It is terribly important to be a disengaged citizen, and indeed, a disengaged student,” said David Randall, research director at the National Association of Scholars, a conservative organization that created the standards last year.

 

Am I reading this wrong, or is this a right-wing demagogue flat-out saying that an engaged student body and citizenry is bad??!

The fuck

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woodland-park-colorado-school-board-conservatives-rcna83311

 

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44 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

At the first board meeting in January with Witt as superintendent, the board voted to adopt the American Birthright social studies curriculum standard. No social studies teachers had been consulted prior to the vote, according to three current employees and an administrator who asked to speak anonymously to protect their employment.

American Birthright materials emphasize patriotism, argue that the federal government should have no authority over public schools and say teachers should not encourage civic engagement, such as registering to vote or petitioning local lawmakers on issues students care about.

“It is terribly important to be a disengaged citizen, and indeed, a disengaged student,” said David Randall, research director at the National Association of Scholars, a conservative organization that created the standards last year.

 

Am I reading this wrong, or is this a right-wing demagogue flat-out saying that an engaged student body and citizenry is bad??!

The fuck

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woodland-park-colorado-school-board-conservatives-rcna83311

 

You're reading it right.

They're not bothering with hiding it anymore. They want the whole world to be drug down to their intellectual level. Scared, dumb, and full of rage at the random minority population du jour. 

A couple of folks, who I think may have been run off back during the Shag, used to run around shouting about "liberalism is a disease," mainly on white power grounds. Well, Christian Nationalism is starting to look an awful lot like a real socio-cultural disease with real body counts.

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I mean... the Oklahoma public school system is shit and has been shit for a very long time. We're having quite the Jesus Civil War about it down at the capitol these days. Never thought I would see parity in the levels of insanity between Oklahoma and Texas public education. 

Ten years ago, every teacher I knew worth their salt was heading south to actually make a living wage. Now it seems we're all holding hands waiting on Hale-Bopp.

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42 minutes ago, Stilicho said:

Ten years ago, every teacher I knew worth their salt was heading south to actually make a living wage. Now it seems we're all holding hands waiting on Hale-Bopp.

My cousin teaches in Oklahoma, and was considering moving to Dallas - shit the Oklahoma teacher of the year 5 or 6 years ago bailed for Texas - https://www.npr.org/2018/04/07/600322769/he-was-oklahomas-teacher-of-the-year-then-moved-to-texas-for-better-pay-now-what#:~:text=Sheehan%2FShawn Sheehan-,Setting up his new classroom in Texas this school year,classroom in Lewisville%2C TX!"

My wife taught for years, and is still in education, and a lot of her friends are looking out of state with everything that is playing out, and other states pay a lot better and aren't trying to force Jesus or the Dark Ages down their throats.

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Great. We're going to have christofasctist moles in our public schools now, enforcing their religious views on what kids can read.

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It's getting more and more likely I'll need to investigate a move to another state. It's just so expensive to not only move anywhere long distance, but to then get recertified in a new state. And I don't know that I would want to try that without a job already lined up, but it's hard to line up a job if you haven't done the certification yet.

Plus all the years I've already invested into retirement in Texas, assuming TRS even survives long enough for me to use it.

Just feels like there are no good options.

On the bright side, at least the most extremist school board candidates in my town all lost their elections, so that's good.

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24 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Great. We're going to have christofasctist moles in our public schools now, enforcing their religious views on what kids can read.

Only thing we can do is get the Catholics pissed off at them, and get them pissed off at the Catholics.

18 minutes ago, Hawndoh said:

It's getting more and more likely I'll need to investigate a move to another state. It's just so expensive to not only move anywhere long distance, but to then get recertified in a new state. And I don't know that I would want to try that without a job already lined up, but it's hard to line up a job if you haven't done the certification yet.

Plus all the years I've already invested into retirement in Texas, assuming TRS even survives long enough for me to use it.

Just feels like there are no good options.

On the bright side, at least the most extremist school board candidates in my town all lost their elections, so that's good.

Wife's friend is making like $95,000 a year teaching at some place outside of Boston as a relatively new teacher (less than a decade), and she said Boston's school district has quite a few teachers making $100,000 or more.  Looking around at other New England states, they seem to pay pretty well.  She said they all seemed pretty intent on retaining teachers for the long run, rather than like here in Texas where there's a shitload of churn with a lot of younger teachers bailing for better-paying/less stressful jobs.  And she doesn't have to deal with religious nuts trying to find out what books she has in her classroom library.

  On the one hand, some place like Boston is expensive to live, but then Austin is going down that road.

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21 hours ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

At the first board meeting in January with Witt as superintendent, the board voted to adopt the American Birthright social studies curriculum standard. No social studies teachers had been consulted prior to the vote, according to three current employees and an administrator who asked to speak anonymously to protect their employment.

American Birthright materials emphasize patriotism, argue that the federal government should have no authority over public schools and say teachers should not encourage civic engagement, such as registering to vote or petitioning local lawmakers on issues students care about.

“It is terribly important to be a disengaged citizen, and indeed, a disengaged student,” said David Randall, research director at the National Association of Scholars, a conservative organization that created the standards last year.

 

Am I reading this wrong, or is this a right-wing demagogue flat-out saying that an engaged student body and citizenry is bad??!

The fuck

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woodland-park-colorado-school-board-conservatives-rcna83311

 

Teachers grew particularly alarmed early this year when word spread that Ken Witt, the new superintendent, did not plan to reapply for grants that covered the salaries of counselors and social workers. 

At Gateway Elementary School in March, Witt told staff members he prioritized academic achievement, not students’ emotions. “We are not the department of health and human services,” he said, as teachers angrily objected, according to two recordings of the meeting made by staff members and shared with NBC News.

michaeljordanfuckthemkids.jpg

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4 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

The world will be a better place when all of these idiot Y'all Queda, KKKristian nationalists boomers die. I'm pissed Covid didn't kill off more of them. 

Don't get your hopes up -- they'll just be replaced by bigger, louder morons.

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3 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Don't get your hopes up -- they'll just be replaced by bigger, louder morons.

The two people in that video explaining the chaplain thing are Gen Z age.

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14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

My cousin teaches in Oklahoma, and was considering moving to Dallas - shit the Oklahoma teacher of the year 5 or 6 years ago bailed for Texas - https://www.npr.org/2018/04/07/600322769/he-was-oklahomas-teacher-of-the-year-then-moved-to-texas-for-better-pay-now-what#:~:text=Sheehan%2FShawn Sheehan-,Setting up his new classroom in Texas this school year,classroom in Lewisville%2C TX!"

My wife taught for years, and is still in education, and a lot of her friends are looking out of state with everything that is playing out, and other states pay a lot better and aren't trying to force Jesus or the Dark Ages down their throats.

Yep. In the mid-aughts, every rural teacher that could actually teach either went west into the Panhandle / Amarillo or south to the metroplex. 

We had a teacher strike in the 2018, but the oil barons and christofacists killed it without any sort of meaningful change outside of a salary increase. Now they're under siege from our own version of DeSantis, solely over woke books and teachers' unions, so that salary increase means jack shit if you get run off for assigning a book report over To Kill a Mockingbird.

Everything is a priority these days, but its going to take some serious FAFO folks to just keep education from slipping sideways right now. Dumbing people down and disengaging them from civil conversation, to my eyes, is just completely antithetical to the notion of American civic responsibilities. 

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8 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Holy shit. So glad I don't live in Texas.

You'll get no arguments from me as I'm now at T-minus 4 years to retiring somewhere in Colorado. Texas especially sucks. But...

The article above is Woodland Park in Colorado. Idiots are everywhere. In Colorado, they are in Colorado Springs and surrounding areas and anywhere that Tits&Guns Boebert represent.

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Teachers grew particularly alarmed early this year when word spread that Ken Witt, the new superintendent, did not plan to reapply for grants that covered the salaries of counselors and social workers. 

At Gateway Elementary School in March, Witt told staff members he prioritized academic achievement, not students’ emotions. “We are not the department of health and human services,” he said, as teachers angrily objected, according to two recordings of the meeting made by staff members and shared with NBC News.

michaeljordanfuckthemkids.jpg



Tell me you don't know shit about education without telling me you don't know shit about education.

Perfect superintendent material there.
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Pretty much like an NFL team getting rid of all the trainers.

"We're trying to win games.  You win games with coaches and players, not trainers."

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Replace counselors with chaplains? What’s the difference between chaplains and youth ministers, aka the profession seemingly most likely to include child rapists? What could go wrong?

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I wonder how many evangelicals, men and women, were abused as kids and if now they think that sexual abuse is just "normal evangelical behavior."

I don't much care if folks are religious so long as they don't try to force me to live my life by their tenets, but religion seem to come awfully close to "grooming" when its directed specifically at kids.

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Replace counselors with chaplains? What’s the difference between chaplains and youth ministers, aka the profession seemingly most likely to include child rapists? What could go wrong?

Well, Hinijosa did put an amendment in that says they can’t have any sexual predator convictions and have to have background checks.

Who decides if they employ chaplains? School Boards?
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1 hour ago, Willfully Horn said:

Replace counselors with chaplains? What’s the difference between chaplains and youth ministers, aka the profession seemingly most likely to include child rapists? What could go wrong?

Sure, but all of the counseling meetings will now include a dude strumming on a guitar...

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In the military, chaplains fill a vital role for maintaining the spiritual health of young people — of all and no faiths — facing the stress of operating in an absurd and abusive bureaucracy with enemy combatants lurking around every corner. How are schools different?

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3 minutes ago, Mole said:

In the military, chaplains fill a vital role for maintaining the spiritual health of young people — of all and no faiths — facing the stress of operating in an absurd and abusive bureaucracy with enemy combatants lurking around every corner. How are schools different?

Why does my kid's "spiritual health need maintained" at a taxpayer-funded public school? Religious guidance, of whatever persuasion, has no business in the public school system. 

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Just now, Mole said:

In the military, chaplains fill a vital role for maintaining the spiritual health of young people — of all and no faiths — facing the stress of operating in an absurd and abusive bureaucracy with enemy combatants lurking around every corner. How are schools different?

Firearm deaths aren't the #1 cause of death for service members. Children don't need chaplains, they need advanced tactical training and equipment.

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17 minutes ago, Mole said:

In the military, chaplains fill a vital role for maintaining the spiritual health of young people — of all and no faiths — facing the stress of operating in an absurd and abusive bureaucracy with enemy combatants lurking around every corner. How are schools different?

I believe this is satire. And sad. Right?

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19 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I believe this is satire. And sad. Right?

Sad, yes. Satire? Where’s the exaggeration?

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33 minutes ago, softlynow said:

they need advanced tactical training and equipment.

That pairs well with field training on how to handle a sucking chest wound.

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Don't forget that these will be gun-toting chaplains, the most ruthless souls in the state, ready to shoot down any potential threat to the children.  And illegal aliens.

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In the military, chaplains fill a vital role for maintaining the spiritual health of young people — of all and no faiths — facing the stress of operating in an absurd and abusive bureaucracy with enemy combatants lurking around every corner. How are schools different?
These aren't chaplain-type chaplains. These are online-course-watched-the-training video-type chaplains.
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It's also clear these idiots have ZERO clue about the roles counselors play in a school. I'd love to see one of these sub-mediocre men (and you know they're all going to be men) try to put together a master schedule and populate it with middle school students. Not the middle school I teach at... someone else's

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It's also clear these idiots have ZERO clue about the roles counselors play in a school. I'd love to see one of these sub-mediocre men (and you know they're all going to be men) try to put together a master schedule and populate it with middle school students. Not the middle school I teach at... someone else's



Get the fuck outta here with all that learning bullshit. Ain’t hard to schedule the 3 pillars of education: guns, god, and Trump. Everything else is a waste of time.
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So even if you don’t want anything to do with this bullshit you have to put to a vote? Another illustration of why you need to vote in these local elections.

SECTION 3. Each board of trustees of a school district and each governing body of an open-enrollment charter school shall take a record vote not later than six months after the effective date of this Act on whether to adopt a policy authorizing a campus of the district or school to employ or accept as a volunteer a chaplain under Chapter 23, Education Code, as added by this Act.

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7 minutes ago, TexPx said:

So even if you don’t want anything to do with this bullshit you have to put to a vote? Another illustration of why you need to vote in these local elections.

SECTION 3. Each board of trustees of a school district and each governing body of an open-enrollment charter school shall take a record vote not later than six months after the effective date of this Act on whether to adopt a policy authorizing a campus of the district or school to employ or accept as a volunteer a chaplain under Chapter 23, Education Code, as added by this Act.

Short-notice, snap votes are a classic mechanism exploited by fascists to realize policy gains whenever they realize a workable majority

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