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2 minutes ago, HenryJames said:
CNN — 

The Republican nominee for superintendent overseeing North Carolina’s public schools and its $11 billion budget has a history marked by extreme and controversial comments, including sharing baseless conspiracy theories and frequent calls for the execution of prominent Democrats.

Michele Morrow, a conservative activist who last week upset the incumbent Superintendent of Public Instruction in North Carolina’s Republican primary, expressed support in 2020 for the televised execution of former President Barack Obama and suggested killing then-President-elect Joe Biden.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/politics/kfile-gop-nominee-north-carolina-public-schools-michele-morrow-executing-democrats/index.html

Damn those dirty Democrats for forcing those godly Republicans into fascism!! [/Slorch]

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5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


no principals, no teachers, no Liberians, just shut it down. Let a charter school rent the campus 

And let the private equity firm thats partially owned by the donors for the fuckers killing our school system collect the rent on teaching our children. 

Monetize everything. Everything should be ran like a business right??? Profit is always more important than education. 

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Just now, Captainant said:

And let the private equity firm thats partially owned by the donors for the fuckers killing our school system collect the rent on teaching our children. 

Monetize everything. Everything should be ran like a business right??? Profit is always more important than education. 


those two texas billionaires have a curriculum ready to go  

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15 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The topic of the thread is GQP diversion of public education funds to private hands. 

This is mostly unprecedented, although they have been nibbling at the edges of it for years. 

Sure, public education has been deteriorating for some years now and there has been semi legitimate debate over how to improve it. And I suppose mistakes have been made on #bothsides. 

But there is only one side right now trying to defund public education in favor of private education. Trying to excuse that by saying it's a bigger problem is just... I don't know what it is. 

I suppose you can try to argue that vouchers is just another way of distributing funds, which has always been an issue in this problem. 

But particularly with the pro-theocratic background that umderlies everything emanating from the Texas GQP these days, it seems completely fair to be extremely skeptical of the whole thing, to the point of condemnation. 

Are you saying you've come upon a situation you can't argue your way out of?  Is this a first for you counselor?  

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6 minutes ago, Captainant said:

And let the private equity firm thats partially owned by the donors for the fuckers killing our school system collect the rent on teaching our children. 

Monetize everything. Everything should be ran like a business right??? Profit is always more important than education. 

This is the most accurate statement of how Republicans view economics and pretty much any world view.  Can we find a way for someone to make money off it, despite any other consequences it might bring?  Make it happen.  

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And let the private equity firm thats partially owned by the donors for the fuckers killing our school system collect the rent on teaching our children. 
Monetize everything. Everything should be ran like a business right??? Profit is always more important than education. 

Two classes of schools:
1) Christofascist schools to teach/indoctrinate the children of the favored class into future leadership roles in the Handmaids Tale world to follow.
2) For-profit enterprises that “educate” the rest, focused 100X more on doing the job on the cheap (thus increasing profits to funnel to the political donors who run said schools) than on educating anyone. Those kids need to learn just enough to be reasonably useful wage slaves, producing profits for their masters.

That’s the plan. They haven’t kept it secret.
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9 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is the most accurate statement of how Republicans view economics and pretty much any world view.  Can we find a way for someone to make money off it, despite any other consequences it might bring?  Make it happen.  

I’d say that used to be the plan.  Now there is a very healthy percent that choose christofascism over profits. True believers. 

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21 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

That it will pass? Or that it will rob money? 
 

Abbot and Paxtons primary war was won. Others will get in line, or retire. Hell they’ll probably be able to repeal tenure at Texas colleges as well. 

That they'll have the votes

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9 hours ago, Captainant said:

And let the private equity firm thats partially owned by the donors for the fuckers killing our school system collect the rent on teaching our children. 

Monetize everything. Everything should be ran like a business right??? Profit is always more important than education. 

There’s probably a FRED graph that shows this.

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2 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

It seems like these psychos are making execution comments about Biden daily.  Does this not concern the secret service?  That's okay to do now?  Really makes you think Biden might not be that secure. 

I think we may see this come to fruition, at least an attempt, regardless of who wins the election.  Bang up job America.

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On 3/12/2024 at 1:55 PM, tchookem said:

I know we're on the same side of this fight, but don't accuse the Dems of dropping the ball regarding messaging. You're falling into the both sides suck trap.

There's plenty of compelling messaging from the Dems, it's just falling on deaf ears.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0fTfUYNiTK/?igsh=MTlsOXprdHN1MnN1cQ==

One side has billionaires bribing the governor and bankrolling flipping the legislature to do their will with dishonest messaging about "School Choice" which should be "Private subsidies" and the other side is a bunch of small loosely aligned school districts that get sued by the cross eyed AG when they advocate for what is best to their constituents.

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3 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

It seems like these psychos are making execution comments about Biden daily.  Does this not concern the secret service?  That's okay to do now?  Really makes you think Biden might not be that secure. 

He is NOT secure.  The SS is a den of MAGA.  When the time comes, there are plenty of agents who will actively ASSIST in a violent attempt to take out Biden/the Biden administration.

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14 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Are you saying you've come upon a situation you can't argue your way out of?  Is this a first for you counselor?  

I'm not arguing out of anything. I am analyzing slorch,who seems to think the current disarray is the  result of prior education policy debates and mistakes, occurring on #bothsides. 

I lay the blame at the feet of the GQP, alone. 

The only real precedent or precursor to this was the failed charter school initiative, which was again a GOP thing. 

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On 3/13/2024 at 10:44 PM, slorch said:

Bullshit.  That doesn't happen with involved parents.

Your enabling mentality is whipping your opinion.

We generally suck as a society in raising our kids.  We reap the results.  We also suck as an electorate.  We reap the results.

Let's start at a 50,000 ft view.

More than a decade ago I read a book (How Children Succeed) which delved into the subject quite a bit.  There was some aspects about how children who had been placed in non-traditional schools (Waldorf/Montessori if if recall correctly) had significantly lower rates of mental health issues even when these were serving the same socioeconomic (and demographic) backgrounds.  So if you wanted to talk about this then we would really need our teachers to pipe in because this is really their domain.   

However the book and subsequent material that I have come across, states the most dominant indicator for academic performance is wealth but there were some caveats.   The rates of drug use were similar amongst the poors as the elites, however the impact of this was not even, and the academic performance still improved with wealth accounting for this (IIRC).

Let's zoom in a bit to what you said earlier and the quoted section above.  

Would you consider your son to be relatively successful in his academic career?  When we talked earlier, you mentioned that you had the advantage of being able to only minimally be involved with is education, just setting expectations for the most part.   How does that jive with parental involvement from what you said in this post I quoted?  Or did you mean that just being involved in a non-academic manner?   

Also in the quoted section above, are some generalizations (we suck as a society, electorate, parents...) that I think are kind of a cop-out.  Because they are nonspecific, mostly anecdotal derived opinions, and non-actionable.  I think this type of thinking shirks responsibility not accepts it.   It guides us to throw are hands up and do nothing or gives us an excuse for doing nothing, or minimize the issue and the involvement of people we voted for who participate in actions we disagree with.   

If economics are the key performance issue then it would seem that the overwhelming issues would be related to our tax and income disparity within the U.S.   As we look at the current wealth distribution and how the wealth distribution has changed since the 1940s we can see how policies have helped shape this new era.  So this would be a completely political in order to impact it at the macroscale.   And doing so might make us have to re-evaluate our beliefs and priorities.    

At the regional scale, the economic factors still exist.  But then we are looking at other issues which were intentional and politically motivated that we do have the power to influence and change (since we cannot vote for every member of Congress).  The reduction of SPED identification and the hoops that parents have to go through to get services is intended to frustrate and push that number of students to receive that aid down.   This is a systemic issue.   No one is advocating for 30% of students to receive SPED access/money.   But some of us are interested in making sure that the kids who need help get it and that we live up to the ideal that students receive a free and appropriate education (FAPE).   This issue is not trivial.  And students with behavioral challenges or students with learning challenges will have an impact on the overall performance of the class.   

Anecdote Warning: My son was in class with a kid who had emotional outbursts and could be violent.  The kid had a medical diagnoses and needed help.  He was relocated to a more appropriate school eventually but on his mother's dime.  $40k a year.  This is an unreal sum of money when the average salary in the US is $60k.  How can people afford this and still be involved?

At HISD,  Miles is going to rate teachers based on their testing performance.  While cutting special education and other services.  So this pushes more responsibility onto the teachers.  Those kids who are not getting services and have behavioral or learning challenges are going to hurt teachers ratings as well.  Meanwhile Miles and his crones are exempt from similar performance reviews by the people that pay his salary.

So yes Slorch, this is political.  Because one political group decided to weaponize education and funding, either to hurt a county that votes oppositional to the current leadership within the state, or to simply try to siphon money from the public into the hands of their allies while likely reducing value and accountability and increasing costs, or just because they can.  Whatever the reason, I am personally heavily impacted by it (time, stress, money) and my story is not special or unique in any way.  We have found this out by reaching out to others in our communities.   

 

 

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Here in Oklahoma, we get bomb threats, forced resignations of education professionals, and now a dead kid all thanks to a terrorist Twitter account.

Great fucking times to be a parent. 

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1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

Abbott claims he's 2 votes away from passing vouchers. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gov-greg-abbott-says-texas-163000687.html

 

In a nutshell - 

 

The damage to the state is going to be irreparable, but the good news for the GQP is that most of their constituents are far too stupid to realize who's to blame so there won't be any blowback.  Time to move north - Austin is going to be uninhabitable in the coming years anyway ...  

 

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Recent Update:

 

Our advocate has spoken to the HISD district reps and got them to agree that they have not been following or implementing the IEP as it was written.  This is a FAPE violation and that exposes them to action and so the district came down on the school and told them to basically give us what we want.   Also, our old IEP had expired and we needed to update the current one with an ARD meeting.   But of course, FBMS officials couldn't help but be fuck-ups.   

We have asked for paperwork on how they have tracked progress for some organizational goals (that were started in October) and one of the forms they sent us looks like it was filled out on the same day with the same pen.  For a series of other tracked progress we have them talking about improvements that were from when the kid was at OFE or showing nearly ZERO progress, but the FBMS reps talking about how good he is doing.  Zero progress is good after 39 weeks?  Some of the filings were outright fiction.  If the kid experiences a troubling event he will be able to return to class and get back on track.  They showed improvement.  His absentee and leaving early due to anxiety seems to indicate otherwise (this was not really an issue at OFE after the 4th grade).  The dyslexia teacher, couldn't provide a single piece of work performed by the kid, she went away from the meeting to fetch some examples but in spite of the meeting running for approximately 2 hours later she couldn't return and come up with anything.   Which was expected as the the recent functional behavior assessment reported that our son was sitting in dyslexia class (and some others) spacing out, watching youtube or playing video games in class, yet, he is making perfect scores all year long. 

We find out the SPED coordinator allegedly tracks behavior and performance by weekly checking in with teacher and casually asking them how he is doing and he just records that info later on.  Then their district staff member steps in with this idea that we can push the responsibility onto the kid to fill out daily forms in each class.   (Hey kid, I know you have organizational challenges and you don't engage in class often,  and demand avoidance is your go to default while here, so let's add another task for you to complete!)  They still do not understand.

Since a few months ago we also learned that the teachers had no access to his IEP or other information and they are just handed a series of accommodations they are to enact, then rubber stamp every assignment with those.   I asked if we track how those accommodations are working and crickets.   No, they don't track that either.  So we have no idea how effective each strategy is, or what techniques they are using to modify behavior or reduce anxiety.  Nothing. 

I want to share how out there some of our demands are.  We asked that the SPED coordinator get trained on Anxiety (he has autism training), and we asked that his teachers get trained on Autism/Anxiety and coordinate with SPED before the start of classes.   We asked that the SPED teacher come in to help keep the kid engaged.  We asked that they teach him the material he missed while vegging out.  We asked that if he does get overwhelmed and cannot attend school they come to the house to help him here.   Of course, it was mentioned that the HISD district cannot help here, because there are no Autism specialists anymore, so all the training has to come from the current SPED coordinator.   However, a psychologist from the district is now involved and will be coming in and overseeing it.   

 

Tangentially, I was recently in a therapy session with the kid.  He didn't want to do it.  He covered himself with a blanket, and despite knowing he needs to sit in the chair and be on camera, he opted to lay on the floor out of site.   The therapist who has never met him in person, who is part of a research study, was able to get this child to come out of his shell, engage, speak up, smile, be playful, all by deftly talking with him about music and asking him to play a song for her that she never heard of.  The kid started dancing during the song even.  She even asked him to write a story (which he hates doing above all else, but he did it for her).  Watching her at work and him respond was shocking.  It was also infuriating.   How so many specialists, councilors, instructors, with all their training, bosses, etc. cannot help this kid but this woman can.   I shared that with his other psychologist and she was like "yeah, stupid this is what we do."   

 

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40 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Recent Update:

 

Our advocate has spoken to the HISD district reps and got them to agree that they have not been following or implementing the IEP as it was written.  This is a FAPE violation and that exposes them to action and so the district came down on the school and told them to basically give us what we want.   Also, our old IEP had expired and we needed to update the current one with an ARD meeting.   But of course, FBMS officials couldn't help but be fuck-ups.   

We have asked for paperwork on how they have tracked progress for some organizational goals (that were started in October) and one of the forms they sent us looks like it was filled out on the same day with the same pen.  For a series of other tracked progress we have them talking about improvements that were from when the kid was at OFE or showing nearly ZERO progress, but the FBMS reps talking about how good he is doing.  Zero progress is good after 39 weeks?  Some of the filings were outright fiction.  If the kid experiences a troubling event he will be able to return to class and get back on track.  They showed improvement.  His absentee and leaving early due to anxiety seems to indicate otherwise (this was not really an issue at OFE after the 4th grade).  The dyslexia teacher, couldn't provide a single piece of work performed by the kid, she went away from the meeting to fetch some examples but in spite of the meeting running for approximately 2 hours later she couldn't return and come up with anything.   Which was expected as the the recent functional behavior assessment reported that our son was sitting in dyslexia class (and some others) spacing out, watching youtube or playing video games in class, yet, he is making perfect scores all year long. 

We find out the SPED coordinator allegedly tracks behavior and performance by weekly checking in with teacher and casually asking them how he is doing and he just records that info later on.  Then their district staff member steps in with this idea that we can push the responsibility onto the kid to fill out daily forms in each class.   (Hey kid, I know you have organizational challenges and you don't engage in class often,  and demand avoidance is your go to default while here, so let's add another task for you to complete!)  They still do not understand.

Since a few months ago we also learned that the teachers had no access to his IEP or other information and they are just handed a series of accommodations they are to enact, then rubber stamp every assignment with those.   I asked if we track how those accommodations are working and crickets.   No, they don't track that either.  So we have no idea how effective each strategy is, or what techniques they are using to modify behavior or reduce anxiety.  Nothing. 

I want to share how out there some of our demands are.  We asked that the SPED coordinator get trained on Anxiety (he has autism training), and we asked that his teachers get trained on Autism/Anxiety and coordinate with SPED before the start of classes.   We asked that the SPED teacher come in to help keep the kid engaged.  We asked that they teach him the material he missed while vegging out.  We asked that if he does get overwhelmed and cannot attend school they come to the house to help him here.   Of course, it was mentioned that the HISD district cannot help here, because there are no Autism specialists anymore, so all the training has to come from the current SPED coordinator.   However, a psychologist from the district is now involved and will be coming in and overseeing it.   

 

Tangentially, I was recently in a therapy session with the kid.  He didn't want to do it.  He covered himself with a blanket, and despite knowing he needs to sit in the chair and be on camera, he opted to lay on the floor out of site.   The therapist who has never met him in person, who is part of a research study, was able to get this child to come out of his shell, engage, speak up, smile, be playful, all by deftly talking with him about music and asking him to play a song for her that she never heard of.  The kid started dancing during the song even.  She even asked him to write a story (which he hates doing above all else, but he did it for her).  Watching her at work and him respond was shocking.  It was also infuriating.   How so many specialists, councilors, instructors, with all their training, bosses, etc. cannot help this kid but this woman can.   I shared that with his other psychologist and she was like "yeah, stupid this is what we do."   

 

I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope you sue the fuck out of the district and get a settlement big enough to fund your child's development elsewhere. 

All of HISD is going to complete shit regardless, no matter what, so I hope you get yours. 

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Tulsa Public Schools had three school board elections yesterday. Each race had a normal supporter of public education and a Moms for Liberty extremist including one who is a plaintiff against the school board for hiring a Black superintendent (or as they put it "failed to conduct a national search" (false) and made a DEI hire (because Black equals unqualified)). All three normies won by pretty healthy margins. T

Also, Oklahoma Attorney General argued to the state supreme court against a Catholic charter school that the governor and his cronies allowed to go into operation with state funds. AG will almost certainly win that case and hopefully will be our next governor (he's still pretty right wing on stuff and not someone I like in general but relatively sane among the nonsense). 

hings like this bring a moment of sanity to my life, at least until the next whack job proposal which is sure to come quick.

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I’m curious to see what happens to housing prices once public education shitshow even impacts the “good school” areas. Or if gentrification hits light speed in well located pockets that were mainly held back by poor schools

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1 hour ago, bluto said:

I’m curious to see what happens to housing prices once public education shitshow even impacts the “good school” areas. Or if gentrification hits light speed in well located pockets that were mainly held back by poor schools

The bigger impact will be rural areas.  There’s probably 100-150 counties (or more) that would dry up and blow away if their schools are wrecked,

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The bigger impact will be rural areas.  There’s probably 100-150 counties (or more) that would dry up and blow away if their schools are wrecked,

I hope they’re in beautiful places like the Smokey’s, or Montana, or the Pacific Northwest, so I can buy cheap land and live away from everyone. 
 

but it will all be like the Texas panhandle. 

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6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The bigger impact will be rural areas.  There’s probably 100-150 counties (or more) that would dry up and blow away if their schools are wrecked,

School issues aside, there are counties in Texas that could be consolidated. No one can justify Loving county with 50 residents.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

School issues aside, there are counties in Texas that could be consolidated. No one can justify Loving county with 50 residents.

I bet the folks running the county beg to differ. I need to dig up an article about a county like that where a single family runs the county and all the oil money that flows from it. 

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36 minutes ago, bluto said:

I bet the folks running the county beg to differ. I need to dig up an article about a county like that where a single family runs the county and all the oil money that flows from it. 

Yes I recall those stories as well. Basically a family/group run the entire county and bring in relatives from Dallas, and other cities, to vote.

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15 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Yes I recall those stories as well. Basically a family/group run the entire county and bring in relatives from Dallas, and other cities, to vote.

What would be your population threshold for consolidation? To help you decide, I've made a quick map of counties with a population below 25,000.

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On 4/3/2024 at 9:49 PM, bluto said:

I’m curious to see what happens to housing prices once public education shitshow even impacts the “good school” areas. Or if gentrification hits light speed in well located pockets that were mainly held back by poor schools

From what I can gather, public schools in "good school" areas as you call them, are funded by bonds that the people vote for. At least that is what one disgruntled teacher told me this week when I asked, "how is like Prosper building a $90 million dollar foosball stadium and Richardson ISD is closing like 4 schools because they are broke". It seems that areas are voting bonds in while waiting on Abbott to release funds that have been locked up for like 2 years now?

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22 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

From what I can gather, public schools in "good school" areas as you call them, are funded by bonds that the people vote for. At least that is what one disgruntled teacher told me this week when I asked, "how is like Prosper building a $90 million dollar foosball stadium and Richardson ISD is closing like 4 schools because they are broke". It seems that areas are voting bonds in while waiting on Abbott to release funds that have been locked up for like 2 years now?

On a more granular level I’m talking specific school boundaries within districts. In Fort Worth for example there’s only ~3 elementary schools worth a damn, and the rest are pure shit. (Probably similar to Dallas with Lakewood elementary and the one near lower Greenville)

if you’re in the good boundary your home has a premium, literally one block over exact same house and it’s piss, or shit, your call. 

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7 minutes ago, bluto said:

On a more granular level I’m talking specific school boundaries within districts. In Fort Worth for example there’s only ~3 elementary schools worth a damn, and the rest are pure shit. (Probably similar to Dallas with Lakewood elementary and the one near lower Greenville)

if you’re in the good boundary your home has a premium, literally one block over exact same house and it’s piss, or shit, your call. 

Understood and yeah that's an interesting slicing and dicing and question you pose. Not sure what the fall-out there would be.

A glass half empty hypothesis would be, because a lot of the appeal of those neighborhoods that abut the "bad areas" would be the (free) good schools you are carved to and if that goes away, then your property value would ostensibly go down, leading to what I would guess to upwardly mobile families leaving in even greater numbers, which would give way to the downward trajectory in quality of homeowner (upkeep and maintenance) and eventually renter until the bad area swallows that pocket of good, whole?

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44 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

From what I can gather, public schools in "good school" areas as you call them, are funded by bonds that the people vote for. At least that is what one disgruntled teacher told me this week when I asked, "how is like Prosper building a $90 million dollar foosball stadium and Richardson ISD is closing like 4 schools because they are broke". It seems that areas are voting bonds in while waiting on Abbott to release funds that have been locked up for like 2 years now?

Is this not the result of the Robin Hood funds that Tracis county disproportionately pays out more than any other county in the state?  Even more so than Harris or Dallas counties?

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Those kids in Alaska did a pretty admirable thing on walking out of class and going to the Capitol. Their wonderful governor vetoed another education bill partly because, you guessed it, he wants the state to make it easier for charter schools to take root there. I am so glad I have not brought a child into this world where getting an actual education is now frowned upon. Meanwhile forming charter schools as a way to make money off of the children attending is really all that matters to any of these truly evil and awful people. 

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On 3/16/2024 at 6:23 PM, Catdaddyhorn said:

I'm really not sure what to do about this bullshit.  

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This guy was absolutely the most hated superintendent in DISD history when he left. I feel fairly certain that Colorado Springs did not miss him either. 

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8 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

This guy was absolutely the most hated superintendent in DISD history when he left. I feel fairly certain that Colorado Springs did not miss him either. 

As someone who lives in HISD, I'd love to not miss that mother fucker. 

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17 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

As someone who lives in HISD, I'd love to not miss that mother fucker. 

I can imagine. Nothing good comes for the people that get stuck with him. I remember when he got a popular principal in DISD fired because of test scores. The community overwhelmingly loved what she had done to transform a school that had been a haven for gangs into a place where the students felt safe and that someone actually cared for them. All this terrible human being cared about were test scores and how he could make the biggest amount of money off of the students. His brain is just completely fried  and the world would be a better place if Mike Miles and his ilk had no place in it.

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So one IEP out of the way, time to discuss my middle child at OFE.  I had a 504 meeting with them.   She is doing well, but has dyslexia.  The state is moving dyslexia over to IEPs from 504s.  So in this meeting I start asking about some testing because she does have a few issues we think she should be evaluated on, which may help her out.  Her dyslexia instructor echoed my sentiments.  The staff starts to push back on me, basically she is doing well enough NOW so they don't want to.  I keep pushing and get to the real issue.  They tell me they (OFE and District) are prioritizing 5th/8th graders because the kids are switching schools.   Like I give a flying fuck.   HISD created this mess, it isn't my daughter's problem that they are understaffed or they were underprepared.    Let's start round 2.    

 

 

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4 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Having spent way too much time in Oklahoma, and with many relatives and some friends there, he’s going to destroy so many, many small towns by driving the public schools under.  A shitload of small businesses will fold, and a lot of family farms will be sold off/cease to exist as families move.

Sounds like he’s against capitalism, small towns, rural folks, and family farms.  Wonder if some of that Soros money is behind him.

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Having spent way too much time in Oklahoma, and with many relatives and some friends there, he’s going to destroy so many, many small towns by driving the public schools under.  A shitload of small businesses will fold, and a lot of family farms will be sold off/cease to exist as families move.
Sounds like he’s against capitalism, small towns, rural folks, and family farms.  Wonder if some of that Soros money is behind him.

And as corporate farms swallow it up on the cheap, they will just attribute it to Wall Street and keep voting for those that destroyed their communities. Cause somewhere in the world, there is a happy person in drag feeling fabulous.
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2 minutes ago, Nivek said:

And as corporate farms swallow it up on the cheap, they will just attribute it to Wall Street and keep voting for those that destroyed their communities. Cause somewhere in the world, there is a happy person in drag feeling fabulous.

And they’ll ignore those corporate farms hiring illegal immigrants.

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