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Just now, Captainant said:

Have you tried using Cline + ollama at all for locally hosted coding assistants? In my experimentation it's been incredibly helpful for both code development and local system interactions like CLI commands and file manipulation. I've been suuuuuuper impressed with what a relatively small 12B parameter model has been capable of

I have not, but I'd love to check it out.  Our was a vscode plugin.  No change to my workflows.  Our IT guys had work to do to scan our codebase and get it up and going, but it was very very easy for me to start using it.

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Just now, Texas Jeff said:

I have not, but I'd love to check it out.  Our was a vscode plugin.  No change to my workflows.  Our IT guys had work to do to scan our codebase and get it up and going, but it was very very easy for me to start using it.

https://github.com/cline/cline

check it out - it's a VScode plugin too. It's configurable to point to damn near any LLM provider - Bedrock, Gemini, OpenAI, local with ollama - and I've been able to have it just set up and run entire github repos on its own by saying "read the readme.md and follow the steps to set it up". Friggin thing makes the venv, installs the dependencies, and will even error-correct along the way if it hits unexpected problems. 

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for being free and open source it's really sped up my own home hacking projects. I don't code much for my day job anymore, but it's been super helpful when I've had to author workshop content or bugfix a problem

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I’ve used githubs co-pilot a bit in the last few months. Better than I thought it would be, and my findings have been similar to yours. I’ve thrown varying things at it, multiple languages, etc.

Sometimes it gets where I’m heading straight off. Other times it takes more lines. Overall it’s probably increased my production 25%, for now. I’m about to see how much it can benefit and increase production though, as I refactor an api, starting later this summer. 

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2 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

I have not, but I'd love to check it out.  Our was a vscode plugin.  No change to my workflows.  Our IT guys had work to do to scan our codebase and get it up and going, but it was very very easy for me to start using it.

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3 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

"Amazon coders say their jobs now resemble warehouse work": Pushed to use artificial intelligence, software developers at the e-commerce giant say they must work faster and have less time to think. Others welcome the shift.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/25/business/amazon-ai-coders.html

In large enough samples, every possible result occurs. As @Texas Jeff writes I bet that top level coders will recognize AI as a tool to improve their work or efficiency. Lower skilled or lower productivity developers will start recognizing that AI is duplicating their basic work, which puts pressure on them to actually deliver something of value that works. And their sweet $250K job is at risk.

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TBH, raw "coding" is like 10% of the time spent in a developer role. You spend SO MUCH TIME just working on requirements and alignment with the business and stakeholders, and even then once the code is written you have to go through integration with the existing system and framework.

That's just not something that a dataset exists to train an LLM to do.

 

If your job is just rawdog-ass coding, and you just throw it over a wall and don't own it after you push it... Then yeah that's pretty low-value to an organization. Put on your big boy devops pants and start owning the delivery of business value from the code you've written, and baby you've got a career goin'

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47 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

In large enough samples, every possible result occurs. As @Texas Jeff writes I bet that top level coders will recognize AI as a tool to improve their work or efficiency. Lower skilled or lower productivity developers will start recognizing that AI is duplicating their basic work, which puts pressure on them to actually deliver something of value that works. And their sweet $250K job is at risk.

I imagine like with a lot of professions, the concern also is that more people off load the basics to AI-tools, the less skills they develop to troubleshoot or... get creative when solving for a problem. 

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I asked AI what were the odds of the Nasdaq being up in 500 trillion years.  It said it couldn't calculate that because it was too long from now - the Nasdaq as we know it might not exist.  Next I asked AI what were the odds that the universe still exists in 500 trillion years.  It said if I mean lt exists with stars and life forms then the odds were essentially zero.

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1 hour ago, ClubWhatever said:

I asked AI what were the odds of the Nasdaq being up in 500 trillion years.  It said it couldn't calculate that because it was too long from now - the Nasdaq as we know it might not exist.  Next I asked AI what were the odds that the universe still exists in 500 trillion years.  It said if I mean lt exists with stars and life forms then the odds were essentially zero.

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On 6/9/2025 at 2:30 PM, Captainant said:

TBH, raw "coding" is like 10% of the time spent in a developer role. You spend SO MUCH TIME just working on requirements and alignment with the business and stakeholders, and even then once the code is written you have to go through integration with the existing system and framework.

That's just not something that a dataset exists to train an LLM to do.

 

If your job is just rawdog-ass coding, and you just throw it over a wall and don't own it after you push it... Then yeah that's pretty low-value to an organization. Put on your big boy devops pants and start owning the delivery of business value from the code you've written, and baby you've got a career goin'

I just listened to a podcast interview with the CEO of Cursor. Wow. 

One of my friends just got a job with Windsurf AI which is hiring a ton right now in Austin in high-growth/scale mode btw if anyone wants on a rocketship IMO and is in the area.

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13 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I just listened to a podcast interview with the CEO of Cursor. Wow. 

One of my friends just got a job with Windsurf AI which is hiring a ton right now in Austin in high-growth/scale mode btw if anyone wants on a rocketship IMO and is in the area.

Pseudo-coding is very very important and useful during the ideation phase, when you want to try and explore a large possiblilty space of designs without committing to any specifics. You can do that because you don't have any integrations or SLA's or customers to satisfy - it's "greenfield". As soon as the rubber hits the road and you've got business partners who need commitments from you towards reliabiltiy so they can author a business plan they can sell to the board to get funding.... It's exceptionally risky to offload all your development to vibe coding.

As someone who lives and makes a living in the operational space where consequences exist for shitty and unexplainable code, I don't see that going super well for anyone. It's effectively the same thing as offshoring all your coding development to contractors, and then wondering how you ended up with such a brittle tech stack. I've been the sonofabitch unwinding that on a production outage call before, and when your only expertise for the code your business relies on is a friggin language model, not even humans a dozen time zones away.... That's not gonna result in a very resilient business model.

I'm very interested to be proved wrong, so that I can stop being responsible for that sort of thing, but there's such a titanic degree of trade secrets and organizational information classification that I just don't see a training dataset getting pulled together to train such a model. It's not that it's technically impossible, I just don't see how you get there as someone who is a technical specialist in LLMs and machine learning generally, and who actually has to realize tangible and deliverable outcomes

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