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14 hours ago, Satchel said:

Balsonaro is running, trying to escape capture by Brazilian authorities. Sought refuge in the Hungarian embassy. They’re after ass. Now, let’s do Trump:

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So this dickwad is on the run and we’ve got the orange goo turd freely roaming the streets. Sounds about right. 

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56 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Alright, I'm out and at the end of the day I don't care if you guys have your thread to fantasize and fervantly wish for a politicians death, I just didn't think it very healthy. I regret inserting myself into the bloodlust orgy and will see myself out.

Good.  Don't come back.  Your virtue signaling is weak and easy to see through.  I don't have to be nice or civilized when the situation calls for survival.

I only wish for someone's death when they pose a threat to me or my family or our democracy.  Trump falls into that category. 

As for your bloodlust orgy comment, if Trump were convicted of treason and scheduled to be executed and they sold lottery tickets for the rights to throw the switch, I'd buy a few.

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I don’t want him to die because he can’t be beaten any other way. I want him to be beaten the old fashioned way. Losing by another 6 million votes in November is a good place to start. Then he can die a lonely old broke loser as God intended.

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Just now, tbone_ said:

I don’t want him to die because he can’t be beaten any other way. I want him to be beaten the old fashioned way. Losing by another 6 million votes in November is a good place to start. Then he can die a lonely old broke loser as God intended.

I'll take the W any way we can get it.  Fucking civilization is literally at stake.

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1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

This thread has turned perverse and macbre with all the legitimate death wish talk. The fact that politicians rile people up in our society today so much, as a political laymen, that is scarier than any politician, policy or political outcome IMO.

Could you guys imagine if there was a thread about how people wish every day that Kamala Harris wakes up dead, choked on a KFC chicken wing, and that they are legitimately just wishing her death? You people would be outraged.

You the type that thinks thoughts and prayers are effective, aren't you?   Well bless your heart.

 

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1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

Equating Trump with Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini in a rational and sane society should be a joke. But I get the sense that you are serious.

Yeah, he's nowhere near as competent a dictator as the other three.  

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24 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

.  Or hell, do this -- take a visit here, the German History Museum in Berlin:

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This is the most powerful and terrifying museum I’ve been to. I went there in Aug 2016 in the lead up to the 2016 election. Everyone should visit Berlin. It has reminders of the results of authoritarianism all over the place.

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45 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So, to get back to your original oh-so-concerned point....you are goddamned right I wish that he would die, right now, this very second. 

My answer to that is: Be careful what you wish for. If he were to fall, he would become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

The Romans thought they could kill off a cult by killing Jesus... You may snicker, but Trump has replaced Jesus in churches throughout the country as their true Messiah, even if they won't say that quiet part out loud quite yet.

You won't kill the cult off simply by him dying.

Heck, look how many years it took for Elvis sightings to wane. Elvis was being spotted and worshiped for a good 10-15 years after his death. Wouldn't have happened if he'd just been an old, fat druggie for the next ten years instead. THEN you'd have had people talking about how much he sucked, although he had been pretty good once.

Y'all really don't want Trump to die. Y'all want him to lose.

Lose, lose, and keep losing more and more, until his name has become as synonymous with losing as Rimbo has become with Greg Davis Defenders. He won't have a cult, because nobody wants to join the Cult of Loser.

Jail won't end him. Death won't end him. Losing will. Losing court cases. Losing his marbles. Losing the election. Dragging the GOP down with him.

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1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

trump has said he will suspend the Constitution, round up, encamp, and deport minorities, and that he wants Americans to obey him like the Norks do Un.  The motherfucker has TOLD us he wants to be a dictator.  He hasn't racked up their body count but if he gets power again, it'll only be a matter of time.  It's scary Americans don't see the danger this cunt poses to our Republic.  

So as far as trump goes, Dope sang it best:

Just go
Die motherfucker die motherfucker die
Die motherfucker die motherfucker die
Die motherfucker die motherfucker die
Die motherfucker die motherfucker die

 

 

he hasn't racked up a body count? you don't count the millions of COVID deaths that happened because he was more concerned about his re-election chances than a global pandemic?

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16 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

My answer to that is: Be careful what you wish for. If he were to fall, he would become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

The Romans thought they could kill off a cult by killing Jesus... You may snicker, but Trump has replaced Jesus in churches throughout the country as their true Messiah, even if they won't say that quiet part out loud quite yet.

You won't kill the cult off simply by him dying.

Heck, look how many years it took for Elvis sightings to wane. Elvis was being spotted and worshiped for a good 10-15 years after his death. Wouldn't have happened if he'd just been an old, fat druggie for the next ten years instead. THEN you'd have had people talking about how much he sucked, although he had been pretty good once.

Y'all really don't want Trump to die. Y'all want him to lose.

Lose, lose, and keep losing more and more, until his name has become as synonymous with losing as Rimbo has become with Greg Davis Defenders. He won't have a cult, because nobody wants to join the Cult of Loser.

Jail won't end him. Death won't end him. Losing will. Losing court cases. Losing his marbles. Losing the election. Dragging the GOP down with him.

I want him to lose, THEN die.  I mean, if we're wishcasting.

But the stakes are too fucking high for me to hold out for the BEST case scenario.  I'll take any W I can get at this point.  We have danced too close to the flame for way too long, the irrevocable and irreparable explosion could happen at any time.  I'm sick of that fucking risk.

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1 minute ago, Longhorn94 said:

he hasn't racked up a body count? you don't count the millions of COVID deaths that happened because he was more concerned about his re-election chances than a global pandemic?

No, you dummy....Bill Gates and Fauci killed all those people, because they created COVID on purpose to convince everyone to take the jab that will eventually kill everyone who got it so we can do the great reset with nothing but liberal voters (although nobody has explained to me how a vaccine that most Biden voters took....but a lot of Trumptards didn't....is a viable part of a scheme to eliminate conservatives and replace them with liberals), but anyway, GREAT RESET!  DO THE RESEARCH, LIBTARD!

This is literally what they think, or something damned close to it.  We cannot reason with these people or their leaders.  Reason only makes them mad.

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19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I want him to lose, THEN die.  I mean, if we're wishcasting.

But the stakes are too fucking high for me to hold out for the BEST case scenario.  I'll take any W I can get at this point.  We have danced too close to the flame for way too long, the irrevocable and irreparable explosion could happen at any time.  I'm sick of that fucking risk.

Yes, but if he dies without losing, all it takes is one person to take over for him. And THAT person will actually be smart and know what he's doing. Which would be far worse than what is happening now.

I feel your pain, man, but he has to lose and live to lose again and again to end the threat.

Yeah it sucks and we all want it to be over now, but the long, slow, drawn-out way is the only way it will work.

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9 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Yes, but if he dies without losing, all it takes is one person to take over for him. And THAT person will actually be smart and know what he's doing. Which would be far worse than what is happening now.

I feel your pain, man, but he has to lose and live to lose again and again to end the threat.

Yeah it sucks and we all want it to be over now, but the long, slow, drawn-out way is the only way it will work.

The bolded is where the two things cannot happen: there is nobody capable of carrying the Trump banner and gathering the level of support DJT has.  We have watched person after person -- relatively capable politicians, at least in terms of the MAGAsphere -- try to do so.  None of them can even come close to being "Trump, with all the Trump fanatical/cultish support, but competent."

Trump has an incredible gift.  He is a genuine savant, I've never seen anything like it.  He is the greatest Idiot Whisperer of the post-WWII era, maybe of the past 100+ years.  Nobody else can come close.  Not Ron DeSantis, not MTG, not DJT jr, Eric, or Ivanka, or Huckabeef.  Nobody.  The BEST "replacement" will still lose millions upon millions of supporters, who without their god to actually see at rallies and speaking and such, will simply crawl back under the rocks whence they came.

While we certainly have much to fear from malevolent billionaires and their wholly owned simps in the GQP (looking at you, Clarence Thomas), it's not the existential threat that DJT, and only DJT, is.  We can "undo" much of the damage being done by the other variety (it still will be painful and bloody, mind you - we're too far down that road for it not to be), but that's a different level of shit.

DJT is an extinction-level threat to the Republic.  Nobody else is.

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12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

None of them can even come close to being "Trump, with all the Trump fanatical/cultish support, but competent."

That's because he's not dead yet. It wasn't until after Jesus' death that Paul showed up, and then converted that small section into the major religion it eventually became. And he came from as far outside the cult as one could come.

The person who takes over, if Trump dies too soon, will be like that. He won't be one of the crazy followers you see right now. He'll be someone who looks like he's against Trump right now, but crafty as he is, will see the opportunity and make things happen.

And like MAGAs do with Reagan now, he just has to invoke the name to get everyone in line... and then grow it.

That's the guy I'm most afraid of right now. The guy you haven't heard of yet.

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6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

A quality Austin FC goal....that footage is so old I'm surprised it wasn't transferred from celluloid. 

You've seen the record before after we traded the heart and soul of the team right?

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1 hour ago, The Dog said:

Gag order in the Bragg case after Trump attacked the judge's family:

 

Oh yeah? They're restricting his ability are they? I think he's confusing Restrict with Threatening Consequences. Because unless they're cutting off his hands and sewing his mouth shut, they're not actually restricting shit. And the next consequences I see will be the first. 

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

My answer to that is: Be careful what you wish for. If he were to fall, he would become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

The Romans thought they could kill off a cult by killing Jesus... You may snicker, but Trump has replaced Jesus in churches throughout the country as their true Messiah, even if they won't say that quiet part out loud quite yet.

You won't kill the cult off simply by him dying.

Heck, look how many years it took for Elvis sightings to wane. Elvis was being spotted and worshiped for a good 10-15 years after his death. Wouldn't have happened if he'd just been an old, fat druggie for the next ten years instead. THEN you'd have had people talking about how much he sucked, although he had been pretty good once.

Y'all really don't want Trump to die. Y'all want him to lose.

Lose, lose, and keep losing more and more, until his name has become as synonymous with losing as Rimbo has become with Greg Davis Defenders. He won't have a cult, because nobody wants to join the Cult of Loser.

Jail won't end him. Death won't end him. Losing will. Losing court cases. Losing his marbles. Losing the election. Dragging the GOP down with him.

Counterpoint, his people won't believe he lost fairly and will still support him and eventually lead to violence. 

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3 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

That's because he's not dead yet. It wasn't until after Jesus' death that Paul showed up, and then converted that small section into the major religion it eventually became. And he came from as far outside the cult as one could come.

The person who takes over, if Trump dies too soon, will be like that. He won't be one of the crazy followers you see right now. He'll be someone who looks like he's against Trump right now, but crafty as he is, will see the opportunity and make things happen.

And like MAGAs do with Reagan now, he just has to invoke the name to get everyone in line... and then grow it.

That's the guy I'm most afraid of right now. The guy you haven't heard of yet.

I think, like Brisket notes, the brand dies with him.  And he wouldn't want it any other way.

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Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Counterpoint, his people won't believe he lost fairly and will still support him and eventually lead to violence. 

I mean, they already tried that once, and the fact that most of them ended up in jail has really calmed down groups since.

Now we just have to do it again. And again. And again.

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Just now, dcbc said:

I think, like Brisket says, the brand dies with him.  And he wouldn't want it any other way.

Of course HE wouldn't want it that way, it wouldn't benefit him at that point!

But it's not about what Trump wants. It's about what that crafty guy wants. Another puppet for Putin to use. And he can keep that brand going. Butter up Trump's kids with sweet words. Tell everyone that he's there to carry things on In Trump's Name.

 

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Just now, Rimbo said:

That's because he's not dead yet. It wasn't until after Jesus' death that Paul showed up, and then converted that small section into the major religion it eventually became. And he came from as far outside the cult as one could come.

The person who takes over, if Trump dies too soon, will be like that. He won't be one of the crazy followers you see right now. He'll be someone who looks like he's against Trump right now, but crafty as he is, will see the opportunity and make things happen.

And like MAGAs do with Reagan now, he just has to invoke the name to get everyone in line... and then grow it.

That's the guy I'm most afraid of right now. The guy you haven't heard of yet.

Fair.  Yet.....that's a risk I'm willing to take, if DJT can choke on a chicken bone right now, as we speak.

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You've seen the record before after we traded the heart and soul of the team right?

SIGH.  If people want RODO to be the magician who turns the franchise into something great, it's hard reconciling that with literally his first move, one of the dumbest personnel decisions I've ever seen in a half century of following sports.

The current team doesn't have a single win in them.  Seriously, I think that the odds are that this team goes to the All-Star break without a W.  The only possible bright side is that if they are THAT bad, we might actually ditch Wolff mid-season (he's a bigger problem than people think - we had players decline on the option of signing with us because they don't want to play for him).

Trump dying and Wolff being fired on the same day would be.....

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41 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Yes, but if he dies without losing, all it takes is one person to take over for him. And THAT person will actually be smart and know what he's doing. Which would be far worse than what is happening now.

I feel your pain, man, but he has to lose and live to lose again and again to end the threat.

Yeah it sucks and we all want it to be over now, but the long, slow, drawn-out way is the only way it will work.

He already fucking lost. What makes you think a second loss will change anything?

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7 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Of course HE wouldn't want it that way, it wouldn't benefit him at that point!

But it's not about what Trump wants. It's about what that crafty guy wants. Another puppet for Putin to use. And he can keep that brand going. Butter up Trump's kids with sweet words. Tell everyone that he's there to carry things on In Trump's Name.

 

 

Trump was the perfect storm.  And enough republicans will act like they were against him all along when the next guy tries to invoke his name.  It won't get the idiots excited like Trump somehow did.  The party types and usual voters still will vote lock-step along party lines, but the fringe types that Trump brought out of the shadows aren't, if I"m right (and I hope I am) going to show up for the next guy, even if his last name happens to be Trump.

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3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

He already fucking lost. What makes you think a second loss will change anything?

I assume the operating theory is he won't live to run for a third time, and he will be forced to face his many trials without immunity and will go down. 

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17 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

He already fucking lost. What makes you think a second loss will change anything?

I am more concerned with the movement than I am with him, but I will also agree that there's something uniquely terrible about him that few other politicians can replicate.

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12 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

He already fucking lost. What makes you think a second loss will change anything?

Well, for one thing, if he DOESN'T lose, we're all fucked.

But with each loss, things get worse for them, more people fall away. Y'all seem to have this notion that his current supporters will NEVER change their support, that they're so far off the deep end they'll never make their way out. But with each loss, someone else decides, "Ok that's just too much for me."

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Just now, Rimbo said:

Well, for one thing, if he DOESN'T lose, we're all fucked.

This is why I root for an early death.  It's not the optimum option, but it's the safe one.  I'll take the double instead of trying to leg it out into a triple.

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2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Well, for one thing, if he DOESN'T lose, we're all fucked.

But with each loss, things get worse for them, more people fall away. Y'all seem to have this notion that his current supporters will NEVER change their support, that they're so far off the deep end they'll never make their way out. But with each loss, someone else decides, "Ok that's just too much for me."

Yeah this is how I feel too. I also think a lot of his base died of COVID and/or old age.

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6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Even that won't matter.  Nothing will help us except his death.  Which I legitimately pray for every single day.  No death in human history will be as impactful as his.

You pray for him to die…..  every day?  Like…..  you take time talking to God and ask him to kill someone?

 

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1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

Yes, but if he dies without losing, all it takes is one person to take over for him. And THAT person will actually be smart and know what he's doing. Which would be far worse than what is happening now.

I feel your pain, man, but he has to lose and live to lose again and again to end the threat.

Yeah it sucks and we all want it to be over now, but the long, slow, drawn-out way is the only way it will work.

He's the Pied Piper for morons.  Many have tried to assume his mantle (Ted Cruz, Desantis, etc) and they have failed.  The morons won't follow just anyone.

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52 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

That's because he's not dead yet. It wasn't until after Jesus' death that Paul showed up, and then converted that small section into the major religion it eventually became. And he came from as far outside the cult as one could come.

The person who takes over, if Trump dies too soon, will be like that. He won't be one of the crazy followers you see right now. He'll be someone who looks like he's against Trump right now, but crafty as he is, will see the opportunity and make things happen.

And like MAGAs do with Reagan now, he just has to invoke the name to get everyone in line... and then grow it.

That's the guy I'm most afraid of right now. The guy you haven't heard of yet.

Fair point, but we need to deal with the existential threat before we worry about the unknown threat.

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Just now, HendersonHorns said:

You pray for him to die…..  every day?  Like…..  you take time talking to God and ask him to kill someone?

 

Sure.  I mean, isn't that how it works?  Direct request, God does what you ask?  

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Of course, I use "pray" in the vernacular.  I just hope very, very, very much, that I get a news alert on my phone that "Donald Trump has choked to death on a hamberder" or something like that.  And yes, I actually hope for that, like the thought actually crosses my mind.

Read literally any account of the rise of fascism in Italy and Germany.  Then read what Trump ACTUALLY says and ACTUALLY proposes.  It's the same.  motherfucking.  playbook.  Anyone who doesn't want an asshole like that to disappear from the earth altogether isn't paying attention and/or doesn't actually care about humanity.  Trump is one of the worst figures in modern history.  He's a fucking sick fascist fuck.  And the sooner he dies, the better this planet will be.   Just like Il Duce and Hitler, who improved the planet by their expiration.

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Why, indeed it was. The Brits tossed it aside around the time anything associated with the US, (read Reagan,) was considered ill-bred, oafish, and uncultured.
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That's an excellent job of bringing a Surly tangent back around to the topic at hand. Trump has all those traits in spades and really has distilled the GOP brand down to its purest form.
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I would have gladly taken the shelters!  My schools' soccer team sucked, but we had an italian coach and an English Headmaster.  Every game was a beating both on and off the fieldpitch.
They don't do shit but make me laugh. Cold rain and wind right in your face with zero protection. Zero fans behind for them to halt thrown beverages. Just good old Lakeway cheese.

Our coach in High School had a Soccer For Dummies book in his office; dumb enough to not hide it, even dumber when he tried to coach us in game. "No we aren't subbing right now sir."
We hated that dumbass.
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16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sure.  I mean, isn't that how it works?  Direct request, God does what you ask?  

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Of course, I use "pray" in the vernacular.  I just hope very, very, very much, that I get a news alert on my phone that "Donald Trump has choked to death on a hamberder" or something like that.  And yes, I actually hope for that, like the thought actually crosses my mind.

Read literally any account of the rise of fascism in Italy and Germany.  Then read what Trump ACTUALLY says and ACTUALLY proposes.  It's the same.  motherfucking.  playbook.  Anyone who doesn't want an asshole like that to disappear from the earth altogether isn't paying attention and/or doesn't actually care about humanity.  Trump is one of the worst figures in modern history.  He's a fucking sick fascist fuck.  And the sooner he dies, the better this planet will be.   Just like Il Duce and Hitler, who improved the planet by their expiration.

I'm praying for it and I don't even believe in God. Pulling out all the stops. Of course, if there really were a just and loving God, we wouldn't be having this problem. 

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2 hours ago, locodos said:

You the type that thinks thoughts and prayers are effective, aren't you?   Well bless your heart.

 

...and he wants his kids to go to Baylor for a good, christian education. 

 

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1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

He already fucking lost. What makes you think a second loss will change anything?

There’s already Republicans and some BMDs who have bailed on him because he lost the House, Senate, and White House.   Another loss will seal the deal with a lot of Republicans and BMDs who just vote (R) for reasons, because they want to win, not listen to some old fat fuck whining about his losses in 2020 and 2024 and about how unfair everything is.

And because Trump now controls the GOP and has already began Order 66 purging long-time Republicans in the RNC (who had important institutional knowledge), he is making the RNC about him, and only him, and it’s just an extension of Trump Org. He gives no shit about down-ballot candidates, he won’t simply go away into the night after he loses in November.

He will not give up control of the RNC after he loses again, so he’s a problem that will have to be dealt with by Republicans who want to actually move forward and win.

4 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Listen, I'm a human being. I'm wrong all the damn time. I do have a fair amount of angst in my life, but most of it is centered around having a young son and worrying about the shitty country we might be stuck in thanks to Christofascists such as yourself, sir. 

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