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Pecker says Cohen called him furiously denying that the child in question was Trump's, saying that he offered to take a DNA test and that because he was German-Irish and the woman was Hispanic, it was impossible for the child to be his.

To be clear, Pecker appeared to be saying that Cohen indicated that a child with a Hispanic mother couldn’t be Trump’s.


Trump has often talked about “good genes” and blood lines. While running for president, he has denigrated immigrants from Latin American countries and said undocumented immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”

 

Pecker is now being asked about Dino Sajudin, a doorman who worked at a Trump building and looked to sell a story — which was apparently false — about Trump fathering a child out of wedlock. This is the first of three catch-and-kill deals that Pecker is expected to describe and we will likely get a fair amount of detail on each of them.


This story clearly bothers Trump. Just like yesterday when it came up during opening statements, he frowned and shook his head.


Pecker says the love child story would have been a big story, and he believed it was important to have it “removed from the market.” Cohen told him “the boss would be very pleased.”

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Regardless of whether the allegation about Trump fathering the child was true or not, the jury is now being shown a contract the National Enquirer reached with Dino Sajudin, the doorman, in which the words “Donald Trump’s illegitimate child” feature prominently. Things like that can leave a mark.

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5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Regardless of whether the allegation about Trump fathering the child was true or not, the jury is now being shown a contract the National Enquirer reached with Dino Sajudin, the doorman, in which the words “Donald Trump’s illegitimate child” feature prominently. Things like that can leave a mark.

Is it just me, the simulation, or just the fact that trump hates the story so much that makes me wonder if Trump has fathered a child out of wedlock?

 

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Steinglass, the prosecutor, is asking Pecker why he paid so much for this story. “I made the decision to buy the story because of the potential embarrassment it would have to the campaign and Mr. Trump,” Pecker responds. This is catch-and-kill in a nutshell and Pecker just said several times in different ways that he was acting on Trump’s behalf.

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Just now, Dnaguy said:

Is it just me, the simulation, or just the fact that trump hates the story so much that makes me wonder if Trump has fathered a child out of wedlock?

 

considering his penchant for banging porn stars I'd bet it's more likely than not that he has at least one illegitimate child

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We are fifteen minutes — at most — away from the end of the day. Steinglass, the prosecutor, appears to be putting a bow on the story of the doorman who sought to sell Trump’s story. But he moves on immediately to the second catch-and-kill deal, which involved the former Playboy model Karen McDougal. She, too, had story about Trump to sell.

 

Prosecutors like to end the day with the most intriguing question-and-answer series they can. I’d expected Steinglass to finish with the doorman, and perhaps allow the jurors to leave early. But by moving onto this next deal, he could be setting up a nice cliffhanger to leave jurors with, that he'll pick back up when we return Thursday morning.

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David Pecker tells the courtroom that he asked Dylan Howard, the former editor of The National Enquirer, to investigate Karen McDougal’s story and that he told Cohen he had done so. He seems to indicate his conversations with Cohen soon increased in frequency and the two men began to talk multiple times daily. Cohen said they should communicate over Signal, an encrypted app, which is often used for conversations that a person wants to keep private.


The jury is quite alert for this portion of Pecker’s testimony.

 

Trump’s body language changed when Pecker started testifying about the catch-and-kill deal involving McDougal. He started moving his head, squinting and pursing his lips, and then crossed his arms over his chest.

 

Pecker says he advised Trump to purchase McDougal’s story directly. “I think you should buy it,” he recalls having said to Trump, who was then a candidate for president. He says Trump said he’d think about it and have Cohen call Pecker back.

 

McDougal, by the way, was selling a story of having had an affair with Trump. Pecker concluded the day’s testimony by saying that Michael Cohen was becoming increasingly agitated as The National Enquirer editor, Dylan Howard, traveled to hear McDougal’s story. “It looked like he was getting a lot of pressure to get the answer, like, right away,” Pecker says of Cohen at the time.

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20 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it just me, the simulation, or just the fact that trump hates the story so much that makes me wonder if Trump has fathered a child out of wedlock?

 

Her name is Tiffany.

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22 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

considering his penchant for banging porn stars I'd bet it's more likely than not that he has at least one illegitimate child

Not to insinuate that porn stars are always the brightest bulbs, but wouldn't they tend to be on birth control?

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23 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

considering his penchant for banging porn stars I'd bet it's more likely than not that he has at least one illegitimate child

I mean, come on. Porn Stars probably have a pretty extensive understanding on birth control applications. 

It's much more likely that an out of wedlock child came from some poor soul he raped. Like some illegal that worked on one of his estates. 

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I mean, come on. Porn Stars probably have a pretty extensive understanding on birth control applications. 

It's much more likely that an out of wedlock child came from some poor soul he raped. Like some illegal that worked on one of his estates. 

Rape, not rape, who knows. Plenty of women throw the dirty leg at dudes like him. When you are famous, they just let you grab em by the pussy (which actually is true to a certain extent).

Regardless, I’d be really surprised if he doesn’t have some extra kids somewhere.
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40 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

To be fair, the justice system was never designed to or for protection of the Republic. It should work slow as state removal of liberty is big AF. 

The people through their congressional representatives were given the ability to impeach, remove, and restrict from office those who would imperil our system of government. There's no such thing as 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in politics.

However, half the people are broken in their brains. Partisan interests have trumped loyalty to the constitution due to monied gentry, religious zealots, and legally anthropomorphic corporations using their $ and power to pervert the very system of government meant to represent the people. Instead it represents entrenched wealth and ideologues who themselves prop up power hungry sociopaths who use politics as a personal means to enrich themselves. 

And therefore the only real lever designed to protect us has been perverted to the point where we have to rely of the justice system as a last resort.

I don’t agree the Justice system wasn’t designed to protect this Republic, which is based on law. Defending the law is a responsibility of the DoJ, and, thus, defends the Republic. Because of delays in starting an investigation into whether tfg engaged n insurrection, not to mention the delay, by SCOTUS, in clarifying immunity (especially compared with the CO ballot decree’s timeline,) whatever protection the 14th Amendment offers the Republic apparently will not be brought to bear.

State removal of liberty is absolutely big AF. The ability to run for office, is limited, however, and I don’t equate losing that ability to incarceration.

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NYTimes website.  I have a sub, and they have a running narrative of the trial.  They have 3 reporters in the room (Jonah Bromwich, Maggie Haberman, Kate Christobek) and they each just add to the timeline.   Occasionally, one of them will expound upon the reporting of another.  I'm just copying/pasting; not always in chronological order.  They don't update it every minute; sometimes there might be 5-10 minutes between updates.
There's others who are reporting from the courtroom (or an annex) and using Twitter for their messaging.  I'm not including them here.
 
 
 
 

Outstanding. Thank you for your service.
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31 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

considering his penchant for banging porn stars I'd bet it's more likely than not that he has at least one illegitimate child

And how many has he aborted along the way.

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21 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

But by moving onto this next deal, he could be setting up a nice cliffhanger to leave jurors with, that he'll pick back up when we return Thursday morning.

Damn, no trial tomorrow? Also, thanks for posting, really appreciate it!!

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Seems like Cohen told stories about how Trump used mafia style intimidation like sending thugs to threaten in person?  Maybe that was Avenatti making some shit up.   If he was/is so frugal, seems very likely he'd send some heavy to lean on someone before buying someone out.  

I hope prosecution got some proof of that and will include it into evidence.

 

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46 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not to insinuate that porn stars are always the brightest bulbs, but wouldn't they tend to be on birth control?

it wasn't a direct correlation. my point was he has no morals so why would he stop at illegitimate children? the fact that he paid to kill the story tells me it's true. he doesn't pay for anything unless he has to. i mean, he's really frugal, after all. 🙄

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Doubtful.  Trump's lawyers are just trying to downplay any malfeasance possible.

Well, what they were arguing is that there is not a conspiracy charge in the indictment.  But, the charged crime may incorporate an uncharged crime if the falsification of documents is in furtherance or for the purpose of committing another crime, which I think is thus far unspecified and only guessed at by the peanut gallery.

That crime might be a conspiracy between NE, Pecker and Trump to conceal information or some such.

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Followup from the Times reporting of the trial:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/nyregion/national-enquirer-trump-trial-david-pecker.html?smid=url-share

 

The National Enquirer’s help for Trump broke norms, even for a tabloid.

 

The National Enquirer was more than a friendly media outlet for Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign in 2016. It was a powerful, national political weapon that was thrust into the service of a single candidate, in violation of campaign finance law.

The tabloid’s former publisher, David Pecker, testified nonchalantly on Tuesday about how the tabloid operated in tandem with the Trump campaign, “catching and killing” potentially damaging stories and running elaborate and false hit pieces on Mr. Trump’s opponents. But its practices were unusual even in the wild supermarket tabloid news game.

By the admission of The Enquirer’s own publisher — first made to federal prosecutors years ago during the prosecution of Mr. Trump’s fixer, Michael Cohen — the tabloid was operating with the full intention of helping Mr. Trump’s campaign.

Under the First Amendment, newspapers are permitted to support candidates. But The Enquirer’s support went beyond journalism: The publication paid $150,000 for a story a Playboy model, Karen McDougal, was preparing to tell about an affair she said she had with the candidate. Then, it published nothing.

That sort of deal is not unusual in the tabloid news trade, even if it violates journalistic standards followed by mainstream American outlets like this one, which have rules against paying sources.

But before 2016, there had never been a known catch-and-kill deal to aid a presidential campaign. In that context, The Enquirer’s payment violated federal campaign laws prohibiting corporations from donating to presidential candidates — who are limited to receiving direct donations of $4,400 per person — and forbidding them to coordinate election-related spending with campaigns.

As The Enquirer’s parent company at the time, American Media, admitted in a “non-prosecution” deal with the federal government in 2018: “AMI knew that corporations such as AMI are subject to federal campaign finance laws, and that expenditures by corporations, made for purposes of influencing an election and in coordination with or at the request of a candidate or campaign, are unlawful.”

The deal helped secure Tuesday’s testimony.

(The Federal Election Commission later hit The Enquirer’s parent company with fines of $187,000; Mr. Trump’s campaign escaped sanction.)

The Enquirer was also providing a hidden value to Mr. Trump: By giving over its cover to his political needs, Mr. Pecker gave him the equivalent of free advertising space at most major supermarket checkout lines in the country, where the tabloid had long ago secured prime placement.

One expert said at the time that such exposure could be worth as much $3 million a month.

Worth potentially even more: The Enquirer’s agreement to keep from the checkout line not only Ms. McDougal’s story but the cache of Trump dirt it had in its own files — “tabloid gold” that would never see the light of day.

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1 hour ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

This fat fuck (Cheung, not the orange one) has never made a comment that wasn't some bullshit like this. If this is all he can say, the "journalists" need to stop quoting him. 

 

 

That's a great point.

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1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

To be fair, the justice system was never designed to or for protection of the Republic. It should work slow as state removal of liberty is big AF. 

The people through their congressional representatives were given the ability to impeach, remove, and restrict from office those who would imperil our system of government. There's no such thing as 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in politics.

However, half the people are broken in their brains. Partisan interests have trumped loyalty to the constitution due to monied gentry, religious zealots, and legally anthropomorphic corporations using their $ and power to pervert the very system of government meant to represent the people. Instead it represents entrenched wealth and ideologues who themselves prop up power hungry sociopaths who use politics as a personal means to enrich themselves. 

And therefore the only real lever designed to protect us has been perverted to the point where we have to rely of the justice system as a last resort.

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A day after Trump issued a call for more supporters to gather outside the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, the number reached its nadir. The number of identifiable Trump fans across the street in Collect Pond Park on Tuesday sank to the mid-single digits, after hovering at about a dozen for a week.

 

Trump continues to receive favorable treatment from the New York City Police Department. For a week, a large N.Y.P.D. dump truck has parked in the intersection of Hogan Place and Centre Street, with a uniformed driver sitting inside. Minutes before Trump's arrival each morning, the dump truck has pulled a half-car length forward, blocking news photographers’ views of him entering the side door of the courthouse. And this afternoon, like those before it, the driver did the same maneuver for Trump’s 2:37 p.m. departure.

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37 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

A day after Trump issued a call for more supporters to gather outside the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, the number reached its nadir. The number of identifiable Trump fans across the street in Collect Pond Park on Tuesday sank to the mid-single digits, after hovering at about a dozen for a week.

 

Trump continues to receive favorable treatment from the New York City Police Department. For a week, a large N.Y.P.D. dump truck has parked in the intersection of Hogan Place and Centre Street, with a uniformed driver sitting inside. Minutes before Trump's arrival each morning, the dump truck has pulled a half-car length forward, blocking news photographers’ views of him entering the side door of the courthouse. And this afternoon, like those before it, the driver did the same maneuver for Trump’s 2:37 p.m. departure.

Favorable as in preventing photos, or favorable as in preventing an assassination?

 

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33 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Why does a police department own a dump truck?

I had to look this one up. They are filled with sand and used to contain potential bomb explosions.

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Just now, Woland said:

I had to look this one up. They are filled with sand and used to contain potential bomb explosions.

So what, they find a bomb that happens to be someplace easily accessible by a dump truck, and then they dump sand on the bomb? Or do they simply drive them near a bomb, and then some cops grab the bomb and then bury it in the sand in the back of a dump truck?

The answer is actually creating more questions for me. 

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

So what, they find a bomb that happens to be someplace easily accessible by a dump truck, and then they dump sand on the bomb? Or do they simply drive them near a bomb, and then some cops grab the bomb and then bury it in the sand in the back of a dump truck?

The answer is actually creating more questions for me. 

I am guessing the large mass of steel and silicate works to absorb and lessen the blast radius just by being there.

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

So what, they find a bomb that happens to be someplace easily accessible by a dump truck, and then they dump sand on the bomb? Or do they simply drive them near a bomb, and then some cops grab the bomb and then bury it in the sand in the back of a dump truck?

The answer is actually creating more questions for me. 

My vast Google knowledge that I have acquired in the last 5 minutes suggests it is used as a barrier that can be rolled quickly into place. Also used to prevent vehicles from driving into protests.

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