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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I've just embraced the concept of "assume evil people will do evil things."  That assumption has a pretty goddamned good track record this past decade or so.  Not perfect.  But goddamn, a lot closer to perfect than anyone would like it to be.

I'm also assuming people will tolerate some abhorrent things or just stay silent so that their team wins and they own the libs.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Again: You do understand that the scenario I'm describing WILL BE PRESENTED TO THEM?

And, again, the fact that Trump has already encouraged people to attack judges, so that it's clear that this is a thing that will happen to them.

I'm not showing this to you to win an Internet argument; I'm showing you the sorts of things that those making the case against Trump are going to show SCOTUS directly if they're even slightly more competent than Habippityboppityboo.

Logic has nothing to do with what I'm saying. It's an emotional argument: "Do you, the members of SCOTUS, value your own lives?"

Pretending this won't be brought up or matter is just being deliberately obtuse.

You and Brisket have embraced defeatism for its own sake at this point.

Funny thing about emotions, it allows people to dismiss all kinds of things they logically don't like. If the SCOTUS dismisses that argument as over the top, or unlrealistic, no matter how obviously realistic it is after the past 4 years, what happens? 

No one should be able to deny what's happening in the courts and this country the last 8 years, but it's happening anyway and Trump might get elected again. This is also the same court that is about to dismantle all government regulation. Do you think they're making that argument based on logic, or emotion?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Wow that's a wild article. Trumpco must be desperate to be getting this dirty this early

In a court filing earlier this month, Ashleigh Merchant, an attorney for Trump codefendant Mike Roman, contended that Willis is having an improper, romantic relationship with Wade. Merchant also alleged, without proof, that Willis has benefited financially from the relationship, with the DA going on “lavish” vacations paid by Wade with money he made as a special prosecutor.

Thursday’s motion filed on Willis’ behalf contends that Wade’s estranged wife, Joycelyn Wade, “has conspired with interested parties in the criminal election interference case to use the civil discovery process to annoy, embarrass and oppress District Attorney Willis.” The DA stated that Joycelyn Wade is also “obstructing and interfering with an ongoing criminal prosecution.”

The DA’s filing said the Wades’ marriage was irretrievably broken and there is no hope of reconciliation. For this reason, Willis’ deposition is not needed to resolve the divorce case, the motion said.

Willis’ motion also said the Wades’ marriage was broken after Joycelyn Wade confessed to having an adulterous relationship with a longtime friend of Nathan Wades’s.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

And that's why cops LOVE Trump, btw. And will become his henchmen if he gains power again, the ones ensured with "disappearing" critics.

There are roughly 3X active duty + reserve personnel in the United States, and they're not even remotely biased hard towards Trump.  I'm pretty sure they can handle the subset of cops willing to be Trump's "henchmen".

Posted
1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Wow that's a wild article. Trumpco must be desperate to be getting this dirty this early

In a court filing earlier this month, Ashleigh Merchant, an attorney for Trump codefendant Mike Roman, contended that Willis is having an improper, romantic relationship with Wade. Merchant also alleged, without proof, that Willis has benefited financially from the relationship, with the DA going on “lavish” vacations paid by Wade with money he made as a special prosecutor.

Thursday’s motion filed on Willis’ behalf contends that Wade’s estranged wife, Joycelyn Wade, “has conspired with interested parties in the criminal election interference case to use the civil discovery process to annoy, embarrass and oppress District Attorney Willis.” The DA stated that Joycelyn Wade is also “obstructing and interfering with an ongoing criminal prosecution.”

The DA’s filing said the Wades’ marriage was irretrievably broken and there is no hope of reconciliation. For this reason, Willis’ deposition is not needed to resolve the divorce case, the motion said.

Willis’ motion also said the Wades’ marriage was broken after Joycelyn Wade confessed to having an adulterous relationship with a longtime friend of Nathan Wades’s.

 

Given that Wade and Willis are aligned irrespective of any romantic relationship, I can't see how this creates any conflict of interest that concerns the defense(s) of the 1/6 case.

There may be some ethical impropriety somewhere along the line, but it doesn't seem to be anything actionable by 1/6 defendants.

Posted
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

I've just embraced the concept of "assume evil people will do evil things."  That assumption has a pretty goddamned good track record this past decade or so.  Not perfect.  But goddamn, a lot closer to perfect than anyone would like it to be.

"Evil" isn't a concept that exists in reality, though. "Self-interest," enlightened or otherwise, is. And you can chart where all these characters are pursuing what they believe to be their own self-interest.

Trump wants to be president so he can pardon himself and make sure he's above the law for the rest of his life. That's it.

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Funny thing about emotions, it allows people to dismiss all kinds of things they logically don't like. If the SCOTUS dismisses that argument as over the top, or unlrealistic, no matter how obviously realistic it is after the past 4 years, what happens? 

No one should be able to deny what's happening in the courts and this country the last 8 years, but it's happening anyway and Trump might get elected again. This is also the same court that is about to dismantle all government regulation. Do you think they're making that argument based on logic, or emotion?

 

If the state's attorneys are worth a damn, they'll make both the emotional and logical appeals. And not be limited to that. But it takes a certain level of deliberate willful ignorance to assume SCOTUS will align with Trump on this.

Or absolute malpractice on the part of the federal attorneys.

 

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

There are roughly 3X active duty + reserve personnel in the United States, and they're not even remotely biased hard towards Trump.  I'm pretty sure they can handle the subset of cops willing to be Trump's "henchmen".

I live in SoCal. I assure you there are no cops here voting for Biden.

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

There are roughly 3X active duty + reserve personnel in the United States, and they're not even remotely biased hard towards Trump.  I'm pretty sure they can handle the subset of cops willing to be Trump's "henchmen".

Really? How do you see that playing out in your mind? If a bunch of cops just start running wild arresting every minority and Democrat they see, are active duty troops going to take it upon themselves to illegally deploy to bust people out of jail? to shoot cop death squads who are in the middle of murdering Trump's enemies?  To depose Trump?

Fuck no. They'll sit around and do nothing. 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

"Evil" isn't a concept that exists in reality, though. "Self-interest," enlightened or otherwise, is. And you can chart where all these characters are pursuing what they believe to be their own self-interest.

Trump wants to be president so he can pardon himself and make sure he's above the law for the rest of his life. That's it.

The "self interest" here is that they want their side 1) to have absolute power, 2) forever.  That means they openly favor an authoritarian state supplanting and replacing our Republic.  Stop thinking they want anything less than that.  And yes "I want complete and total power, that can never be taken from me, so I can impose my will on you without being answerable for it or suffering any repercussions" is fucking evil.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Really? How do you see that playing out in your mind? If a bunch of cops just start running wild arresting every minority and Democrat they see, are active duty troops going to take it upon themselves to illegally deploy to bust people out of jail? to shoot cop death squads who are in the middle of murdering Trump's enemies?  To depose Trump?

Fuck no. They'll sit around and do nothing. 

This.  Local PDs (think those under "constitutional sheriffs") will anoint themselves as Trump's Chosen Christian Constitutionalist Shock Troops, Trump will bless them as such, and they'll operate just like every other private/only nominally governmental militant force we've seen employed in fascist states over and over again.  And they'll get away with it because 1) nobody will stop them, and 2) if someone dares try through the courts, we will have already established the law of "if the president orders/allows it, it's legal."  So, mark that down as "done."

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11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Really? How do you see that playing out in your mind? If a bunch of cops just start running wild arresting every minority and Democrat they see, are active duty troops going to take it upon themselves to illegally deploy to bust people out of jail? to shoot cop death squads who are in the middle of murdering Trump's enemies?  To depose Trump?

Fuck no. They'll sit around and do nothing. 

LMAO.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

If the state's attorneys are worth a damn, they'll make both the emotional and logical appeals. And not be limited to that. But it takes a certain level of deliberate willful ignorance to assume SCOTUS will align with Trump on this.

Or absolute malpractice on the part of the federal attorneys.

 

You sound like TwiceHorn saying it's unreasonable to expect that Aileen Canon or whatever the fuck her name is would delay and do Trump's bidding on the document case, and continue to bang that drum as she continues to do what everyone knew she would do to shit all over the most damning case against Trump.

But you somehow think other bought and paid for judges won't do exactly what the fuck they're told by their handlers? Because let's be clear, if they were worried about how they were percieved they would have softened their stances on other things well before now, and they haven't, they've dug in an gotten more extreme. 

I fail to see what federal attornies have to do with influencing the decisions of the Supreme Court...becuase you're assuming they can be appealed to logically, or ethically, or emotionally if they've already made an emotional determination of their own. 

But you keep telling US about willful ignorance, while ignoring your admittedly and repetaedly misplaced optimism. 

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20 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

You sound like TwiceHorn saying it's unreasonable to expect that Aileen Canon or whatever the fuck her name is would delay and do Trump's bidding on the document case, and continue to bang that drum as she continues to do what everyone knew she would do to shit all over the most damning case against Trump.

But you somehow think other bought and paid for judges won't do exactly what the fuck they're told by their handlers? Because let's be clear, if they were worried about how they were percieved they would have softened their stances on other things well before now, and they haven't, they've dug in an gotten more extreme. 

I fail to see what federal attornies have to do with influencing the decisions of the Supreme Court...becuase you're assuming they can be appealed to logically, or ethically, or emotionally if they've already made an emotional determination of their own. 

But you keep telling US about willful ignorance, while ignoring your admittedly and repetaedly misplaced optimism. 

I have never said it's unreasonable to expect that.  I have just said that there are a lot of things at play and other things may explain what appears to those lacking perspective to be her favoritism or bias.  Or it could be favoritism or bias.

Here's the thing.  Those "bought and paid for" justices aren't "bought and paid for."  What they are is specifically selected for their judicial and personal views on conservative issues like abortion.  No one paid for those views, they came to them naturally or through some other mechanism than being bought and paid for.

What they were not selected for is loyalty or obeisance to Donald J. Trump.  They have lifetime appointments, so they don't need Trump anymore, if they ever did (probably any GOP POTUS would have nominated these people, nothing special about Trump).

Moreover, even if they were to personally believe in a strong executive, to the point of authoritarianism, I imagine that belief stops a good deal short of sacrificing the power of their own branch, the judiciary, in bringing the executive to heel.

For these, or other reasons unknown, the Supremes have been quite unsympathetic thus far to Trump's efforts to insulate himself from consequences post-Presidency.  

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Posted
3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I think I'd be wasting my time responding to your ridiculous fever dream.

I got it, so you're saying that the sort of thing that has happened and still happens elsewhere in the world can't happen here because of reasons. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

What, specifically, do you think they'll do?

I think the problem there is that the military will avoid involvement in domestic affairs, either as Trump's minions or, most likely, against pro-Trump "forces."

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Posted
1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

I think the problem there is that the military will avoid involvement in domestic affairs, either as Trump's minions or, most likely, against pro-Trump "forces."

Or they'll stand by while the capital is attacked, like on Jan 6. Failure to prevent a coup from an internal enemy is a pretty severe breach of duty and their oath. 

Posted
1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

I think the problem there is that the military will avoid involvement in domestic affairs, either as Trump's minions or, most likely, against pro-Trump "forces."

This.  The military will not save us, because the military will actually follow the law (something that the Trump private/personal gestapo troops will not be burdened by).  The Trump gestapo will be able to do whatever they want with no repercussions because the president told them to, and if the president says it, it's now legal.  And the military will not move 1) without orders from Trump, the CINC, and 2) will not act on US soil because Posse Comitatus. 

We're going to have to save ourselves.  Arm up.  And be prepared to actually pull the trigger.  We're almost there.  Because that's how these insane fascist fuckers want it.  I can't believe it, but they plainly want it that way.

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29 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I have never said it's unreasonable to expect that.  I have just said that there are a lot of things at play and other things may explain what appears to those lacking perspective to be her favoritism or bias.  Or it could be favoritism or bias.

Here's the thing.  Those "bought and paid for" justices aren't "bought and paid for."  What they are is specifically selected for their judicial and personal views on conservative issues like abortion.  No one paid for those views, they came to them naturally or through some other mechanism than being bought and paid for.

What they were not selected for is loyalty or obeisance to Donald J. Trump.  They have lifetime appointments, so they don't need Trump anymore, if they ever did (probably any GOP POTUS would have nominated these people, nothing special about Trump).

Moreover, even if they were to personally believe in a strong executive, to the point of authoritarianism, I imagine that belief stops a good deal short of sacrificing the power of their own branch, the judiciary, in bringing the executive to heel.

For these, or other reasons unknown, the Supremes have been quite unsympathetic thus far to Trump's efforts to insulate himself from consequences post-Presidency.  

They were elected for their conservative leanings. And then they were bought and paid for by interests who have business before the court. Or did you forget about Harlan Crowe, Alito trips, and Thomas’s free quarter million rv? 
 

as for their record to date against Trump, maybe they’re saving up good will. Or maybe their masters haven’t told them how to vote before. But there’s no reason to trust any compromised Justice to be fair or impartial on any case. 

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

They were elected for their conservative leanings. And then they were bought and paid for by interests who have business before the court. Or did you forget about Harlan Crowe, Alito trips, and Thomas’s free quarter million rv? 
 

as for their record before Trump, maybe they’re saving up good will. But there’s no reason to trust any compromised Justice to be fair or impartial on any case. 

I am thinking more in terms of the recent appointees, Gorsuch, Barrett, Kavanaugh who are more explicitly products of the FedSoc/Leo machine and, although less vocal than the old fucktards Alito and Thomas, probably more actually responsible for the turn of the court.

There's also minimal evidence that they are "bought and paid for."

So, you have Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson, and they only need two other rationals, one of which is likely Roberts, to turn Trump away, so that just leaves one.  Sure, it's not going to be Alito or Thomas, but that leaves three others.

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

I am thinking more in terms of the recent appointees, Gorsuch, Barrett, Kavanaugh who are more explicitly products of the FedSoc/Leo machine and, although less vocal than the old fucktards Alito and Thomas, probably more actually responsible for the turn of the court.

There's also minimal evidence that they are "bought and paid for."

So, you have Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson, and they only need two other rationals, one of which is likely Roberts, to turn Trump away, so that just leaves one.  Sure, it's not going to be Alito or Thomas, but that leaves three others.

You lost me at minimal evidence. Are you kidding? Thomas has a book of evidence and he’s never recused himself from anything with Harlan Crowes interest or attachment. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I am thinking more in terms of the recent appointees, Gorsuch, Barrett, Kavanaugh who are more explicitly products of the FedSoc/Leo machine and, although less vocal than the old fucktards Alito and Thomas, probably more actually responsible for the turn of the court.

There's also minimal evidence that they are "bought and paid for."

So, you have Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson, and they only need two other rationals, one of which is likely Roberts, to turn Trump away, so that just leaves one.  Sure, it's not going to be Alito or Thomas, but that leaves three others.

So the three Opus Dei Catholics weren't bought and paid for?  Ok.  

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Posted
11 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Well, that settles it then!

-Thomas and Alito, probably.

 

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Time for Biden to approve an assassination on a political enemy. [/presidentialimmunity]

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Posted
2 hours ago, Rimbo said:

 

I live in SoCal. I assure you there are no cops here voting for Biden.

Wrong....my BIL on the El Segundo force is voting Biden

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1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

So the three Opus Dei Catholics weren't bought and paid for?  Ok.  

Why would you have to buy and pay for them?  This is what they believe.  Which was my initial point.

At any rate, none of them were bought and paid for to support Donald Trump personally.

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Why would you have to buy and pay for them?  This is what they believe.  Which was my initial point.

At any rate, none of them were bought and paid for to support Donald Trump personally.

Can you prove that in a court of law, counselor?

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9 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Nobody in the Republican Party pre 2016 was there out of fealty to Donald Trump.  And then 90%+ of those same people (and 99% of the politicians) became Trump apologists who debase themselves in support of all his awfulness.  

The GOP appointed Supreme Court members (or at least enough of them) will thwart his more outrageous gambits as long as he’s out of power.  They won’t if he’s in power or they think he will be.  

I'm not so sure about the "in power" thing.  

They were ok supporting most of Trump's legal policies because they basically align with what they believe and were appointed to implement.

Trump's personal bs doesn't really align with any of that.  And, again, I will reiterate that I think that the notion of creating an executive that is not criminally responsible to their branch is not something they want to do, even if they favored propping up a "conservative" president or candidate.

They generally like elevating the executive over the legislative, the executive over the judicial, not so much.  For example, their assault on Chevron deference hurts the executive to their benefit as much or more than Congress (these are executive agencies, after all, and it is usually an executive-prompted rulemaking over which they intend to exert more control).

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Posted
3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The "self interest" here is that they want their side 1) to have absolute power, 2) forever.  That means they openly favor an authoritarian state supplanting and replacing our Republic.  Stop thinking they want anything less than that.  And yes "I want complete and total power, that can never be taken from me, so I can impose my will on you without being answerable for it or suffering any repercussions" is fucking evil.

 

I mean, that's what Trump gets if they vote for him, yes.

But what's in it for them?

They're not giving themselves immunity. And they're not giving themselves immunity FROM Trump. I don't know if you've noticed this, but they haven't exactly ruled in his favor every chance they've had. Even if you've forgotten, Trump hasn't. And we've all seen what Trump does to those he think has betrayed him.

What do you think he does to those SCOTUS justices if they give him immunity?

My point isn't that I recognize this danger. My point is that federal counsel has all the evidence they need to put it in front of them.

Your position here is kinda silly.

 

51 minutes ago, otisdog said:

Wrong....my BIL on the El Segundo force is voting Biden

Exception that proves the rule.

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  The military will not save us, because the military will actually follow the law (something that the Trump private/personal gestapo troops will not be burdened by).  The Trump gestapo will be able to do whatever they want with no repercussions because the president told them to, and if the president says it, it's now legal.  And the military will not move 1) without orders from Trump, the CINC, and 2) will not act on US soil because Posse Comitatus. 

We're going to have to save ourselves.  Arm up.  And be prepared to actually pull the trigger.  We're almost there.  Because that's how these insane fascist fuckers want it.  I can't believe it, but they plainly want it that way.

Yep, this is my fear. I have a reoccurring dream where me and a few friends are guarding our town against Trumpkins. We are the county seat and they don't like the new judge/mayor etc. Trump loses, they get pissed and with quiet social media pushes decide to solve the situation. So in that case, what do citizens on the other side do? One person in this dream is a republican I know who voted Biden and lost a lot of friends. Dude is about as Texas as you can get. Hunter, family has been here from the start, including a lot of marriages with Latinos. He sees that as the thread of his soul. Being a Texan.

We talked a few weeks ago. His take is if the Trumpkins come, he will fight back. Someone at the table said well they out gun us. He looked at me, them, and just smiled. "Nah. they just think the do." I laughed and took a sip of beer knowing what he has.

Something that bothers the shit out of me. It only takes 3% of a population to conduct a guerilla war. We are a soft nation full of targets. And they represent what percent?

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17 hours ago, Player said:


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Obviously he’s no dummy then.

CSB alert:  when i was in 6th grade or so, a really great teacher had a buddy that worked at NBC in Burbank, and arranged a backstage tour for us.  I actually walked through that "room". 

 

EDIT: does anybody recall the cops' names?   Was the white guy "Smitty"?

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Posted (edited)
48 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

CSB alert:  when i was in 6th grade or so, a really great teacher had a buddy that worked at NBC in Burbank, and arranged a backstage tour for us.  I actually walked through that "room". 

 

Growing up, I  thought that Redd Foxx was like 65 when this show was on.  Turns out he was 49 at the debut.

Man, I feel old now.

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21 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Growing up, I  thought that Redd Foxx was like 65 when this show was on.  Turns out he was 49 at the debut.

Man, I feel old now.

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Posted
18 hours ago, Superhero said:

Time for Biden to approve an assassination on a political enemy. [/presidentialimmunity]

Well he's not really the president, so it doesn't apply to him.

-Habba Dabba Ding Dong to a nodding Uncle Clarence

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17 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm not so sure about the "in power" thing.  

They were ok supporting most of Trump's legal policies because they basically align with what they believe and were appointed to implement.

Trump's personal bs doesn't really align with any of that.  And, again, I will reiterate that I think that the notion of creating an executive that is not criminally responsible to their branch is not something they want to do, even if they favored propping up a "conservative" president or candidate.

They generally like elevating the executive over the legislative, the executive over the judicial, not so much.  For example, their assault on Chevron deference hurts the executive to their benefit as much or more than Congress (these are executive agencies, after all, and it is usually an executive-prompted rulemaking over which they intend to exert more control).

Sure it does. Being a corrupt piece of shit is fundamental to fascism and they've all fully embraced varying degrees of fascism.  They just disagree over how openly fascist they should be.

You keep pointing out that they didn't "help" Trump in his personal cases while he was President, but you're only partially right. Sure they didn't overturn an election for him and they didn't rule that his tax returns were totally privileged. But they repeatedly delayed proceedings and ruled in ways that allowed him to drag things out. Hell, just look at the emoluments cases. 

As for their attack on Chevron, you know as well as I do that they rule on admin law shit pretty much solely based on which party is in the White House. Eliminating Chevron won't keep them from upholding whatever draconian immigration shit a second Trump administration wants to do.  

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On 1/18/2024 at 5:59 AM, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Well, that settles it then!

-Thomas and Alito, probably.

 

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Checks and Balances?  Phbbbbt.  The Founding Fathers never meant for there to be 3 co-equal branches that made sure none of them ever got too powerful or out of control!

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20 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

Checks and Balances?  Phbbbbt.  The Founding Fathers never meant for there to be 3 co-equal branches that made sure none of them ever got too powerful or out of control!

I still think the Supreme Court must know that a Trump presidency will be the last time that anyone in the executive or legislative branch gave a flying fuck about what the Supreme Court said about anything. Trump won’t.   Even this fucked up crew will not rule that Trump can be dictator forever.   So after he gets in, they gotta go if they will not do what he wants

Roberts might have to rule against Trump to preserve the quaint belief that the other branches have to bow to the Supreme Court.  I keep thinking that this might be a Marbury V Madison moment.  

I see Trump’s reelection as the biggest threat to the continued legitimacy of the authority of the Supreme Court that has happened in 200 years. For self preservation reasons, SCOTUS should do everything within its power to ensure that Trump does not get reelected.

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On 1/18/2024 at 12:00 PM, TwiceHorn said:

It's not just Trump.  The irony is small, but it's there.

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21 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Given that Wade and Willis are aligned irrespective of any romantic relationship, I can't see how this creates any conflict of interest that concerns the defense(s) of the 1/6 case.

There may be some ethical impropriety somewhere along the line, but it doesn't seem to be anything actionable by 1/6 defendants.

So Trump's people got to the special prosecutor's wife and now her legal team is trying to subpoena Fanni Willis for her Divorce case to delay the GA election fraud case.  That is desperate.

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8 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

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So Trump's people got to the special prosecutor's wife and now her legal team is trying to subpoena Fanni Willis for her Divorce case to delay the GA election fraud case.  That is desperate.

I had a client who was selected as a bellwether plaintiff in a mass tort case. The attorneys for Bristol-Myers Squibb helped my client’s ex-husband, retain an attorney to try to take my client’s daughter away and give sole custody to the ex, despite no grounds to do so. Oh, they denied being behind the custody thing. But Bristol’s lawyers just happened to be in divorce court that day.  Coincidence and all.  They just wanted to send a message to my client that they were willing to do anything they could to hurt her if she proceeded with her claim.

This pissed her off, we continued the suit, and she eventually settled for a more than decent amount of money.  The ex’s custody suit failed.  But never underestimate what a really rich unprincipled party opponent will do to gain an advantage in a case

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2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I had a client who was selected as a bellwether plaintiff in a mass tort case. The attorneys for Bristol-Myers Squibb helped my client’s ex-husband, retain an attorney to try to take my client’s daughter away and give sole custody to the ex, despite no grounds to do so. Oh, they denied being behind the custody thing. But Bristol’s lawyers just happened to be in divorce court that day.  Coincidence and all.  They just wanted to send a message to my client that they were willing to do anything they could to hurt her if she proceeded with her claim.

This pissed her off, we continued the suit, and she eventually settled for a more than decent amount of money.  The ex’s custody suit failed.  But never underestimate what a really rich unprincipled party opponent will do to gain an advantage in a case

What the fuck.  That's just evil.

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