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Judge calls defense attorney's comment on sending Trump to prison "outrageous"

Judge Juan Merchan said he'd give a curative instruction as to defense attorney Todd Blanche's remarks about sending Trump to prison.

During his closing arguments, Blanche talked about Cohen's credibility and told the jury: "Then he came in here, he raised his right hand and he lied to each of you repeatedly. You cannot send someone to prison you cannot convict somebody based upon the words of Michael Cohen."

Merchan said Blanche's comment was "outrageous."

"You know that making a comment like that is highly inappropriate. It simply not allowed. Period. It’s hard for me to imagine that was accidental in any way," the judge said, referencing Blanche's experienced career as a prosecutor and a defense attorney.

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass had raised the issue and asked for curative instruction for the "ridiculous comment."

"That was a blatant and wholly inappropriate" effort to get sympathy for Trump, Steinglass told Merchan.

Steinglass also said Merchan should reconsider a curative instruction about retainer agreements because he said Blanche "doubled down that it's perfectly plausibly to have no retainer agreement when that is not the law in New York State." This was debated at the charge conference last week and Merchan said he'd look into the law.

Merchan did not make any comments about a potential curative instruction on the retainer issue.

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25 minutes ago, speed817 said:

He's especially orange today and with handwritten notes....

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Is that a shadow or did he "orange" himself up to his wrist to leave his baby hands lily white?

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29 minutes ago, speed817 said:

He's especially orange today and with handwritten notes....

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I assume that tin is chock full o' high grade beaver tranquilizer

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On 5/27/2024 at 10:36 AM, Brisketexan said:


He’s the biggest piece of shit in American history. There’s not even a close second.

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36 minutes ago, locodos said:

Judge calls defense attorney's comment on sending Trump to prison "outrageous"

Judge Juan Merchan said he'd give a curative instruction as to defense attorney Todd Blanche's remarks about sending Trump to prison.

During his closing arguments, Blanche talked about Cohen's credibility and told the jury: "Then he came in here, he raised his right hand and he lied to each of you repeatedly. You cannot send someone to prison you cannot convict somebody based upon the words of Michael Cohen."

Merchan said Blanche's comment was "outrageous."

"You know that making a comment like that is highly inappropriate. It simply not allowed. Period. It’s hard for me to imagine that was accidental in any way," the judge said, referencing Blanche's experienced career as a prosecutor and a defense attorney.

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass had raised the issue and asked for curative instruction for the "ridiculous comment."

"That was a blatant and wholly inappropriate" effort to get sympathy for Trump, Steinglass told Merchan.

Steinglass also said Merchan should reconsider a curative instruction about retainer agreements because he said Blanche "doubled down that it's perfectly plausibly to have no retainer agreement when that is not the law in New York State." This was debated at the charge conference last week and Merchan said he'd look into the law.

Merchan did not make any comments about a potential curative instruction on the retainer issue.

Was that an attempt to get sympathy for Trump? My first thought was that it was jury intimidation. You’d better think twice about sending Trump to jail because if he becomes president again then he’s going to come after you. You’ve heard him talk about “retribution,” right?

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20 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

First time here and I may regret it :). Did a search and could not find this linked, but the outage may have borked search.

Hartman as Trump in 1990.  The more things change the more they stay the same.

 

 

Little known fact:  long before SNL, Phil Hartman designed over 40 album covers for bands like Crosby Stills Nash, America, Poco, etc.   His brother, John Hartmann (two n's) was a talent manager for CSN and many others. 

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57 minutes ago, speed817 said:

He's especially orange today and with handwritten notes....

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Not to defend Trump in any way at all, but that redditor may have changed the color tone. In an AP update, they mention what the yellow sticky note says, with an accompanying photo focusing on his hands and the note. It's not even close to being that orange in the AP photo. The shading around his wrists is still a little different, but it looks more like a shadow.

 

Sticky notes
A yellow sticky note affixed to the papers Trump carried into court read, “This case should be dismissed by the judge but it’s totally corrupt.” Images of the handwritten note were captured when news photographers were briefly allowed into the courtroom before proceedings started Tuesday.

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The note looks like Trump’s handwriting, in his preferred thick black marker. Trump has in the past carried reminder notes when speaking before cameras about significant news. When he spoke outside his first impeachment trial as president, he carried a handwritten note that said, “I want no quid pro quo.” When he spoke at the White House in 2019 about his push to try to address infrastructure, photographers captured him holding a note that said, “They want to impeach over acts that they did” and “I’m going to keep working for the American people.”

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Seems odd that the defense is apparently going first in closing arguments. Usually it's the party with the burden of proof. Any insight on that? 

In Texas, the prosecution opens and rebuts.  Here, they just got rid of the opening part.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Seems odd that the defense is apparently going first in closing arguments. Usually it's the party with the burden of proof. Any insight on that? 

 

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

That's how NY rolls apparently

CA too.   

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12 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Was that an attempt to get sympathy for Trump? My first thought was that it was jury intimidation. You’d better think twice about sending Trump to jail because if he becomes president again then he’s going to come after you. You’ve heard him talk about “retribution,” right?

It was calculated and out of bounds.  But it's not like the prosecution is going to push for a mistrial.  So he knew he'd get away with it and there's the slightest chance they wouldn't object (but they did). 

 

I'd estimate it is worse that the jury gets an instruction to disregard any statement about potential sentence because that isn't its role at this stage, which was one of the last things it heard from the defense.  After four hours of listening to the prosecution, it won't remember much of substance about what the defensed argued.

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7 minutes ago, Shut up Lou Holtz said:

It’s amazing that people see this as peak masculinity. The worst fucking people 

Basket of deplorables....

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19 minutes ago, dcbc said:

In Texas, the prosecution opens and rebuts.  Here, they just got rid of the opening part.

Same in Louisiana.  I remember the prosecution going first in the OJ trial, so maybe California’s change in the closing argument order is a more recent thing.

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Personally, I'm looking forward to a guilty verdict so I can have a brief moment of satisfaction before the polls come out and show it resulted in a gain in popularity. 

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4 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Personally, I'm looking forward to a guilty verdict so I can have a brief moment of satisfaction before the polls come out and show it resulted in a gain in popularity. 

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Seems odd that the defense is apparently going first in closing arguments. Usually it's the party with the burden of proof. Any insight on that? 

in Texas, prosecution has the right to go first, then rebut after defense summation.  however, prosecution can waive their right to go first and reserve both summation and rebuttal after defense presents...which is what i did  the vast majority of times when i was prosecuting.  

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7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Could the jury, in theory, return a verdict today/tonight? 

Depends on how long the prosecution takes for their closing. Then the judge will have to give instructions. Chances are they'll finish today with closing, and start the day tomorrow with instructions. 

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Just now, Mo Horn said:

Depends on how long the prosecution takes for their closing. Then the judge will have to give instructions. Chances are they'll finish today with closing, and start the day tomorrow with instructions. 

think it would be Thursday if they don't wrap today, no?

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4 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

think it would be Thursday if they don't wrap today, no?

If court isn't scheduled tomorrow then yes it will be Thursday. 

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6 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

If court isn't scheduled tomorrow then yes it will be Thursday. 

With Memorial day Monday... I think court is in sessions tomorrow, but I could be wrong

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4 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

What does professional courtesy have to do with it?

Before a party makes a motion to the court asking for relief, they must confer with opponent about it. 

It is not unusual really, if a judge gets wind of the idea that the conference was half-assed, to deny the motion until the parties hash it out "sincerely." Even when one of the parties is an asshole and won't agree to anything. 

It can be annoying. 

On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if Jay Bratt was the government lawyer filing the motion and doing the conference. I am getting the impression from this and some other things that he is a bit of an asshole in his own right. 

 

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if Jay Bratt was the government lawyer filing the motion and doing the conference. I am getting the impression from this and some other things that he is a bit of an asshole in his own right. 

What’s his Surly handle?

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NSIAP:
 

Linked CBS article does bring up the amusing fact that Trump will have Secret Service protection in the joint should he end up behind bars, and the secret service will be protected by department of corrections officers...

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3 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I don't want to say anything because I don't want to jinx anything, but I think Wed or Thurs could be very big for our country.

I'll make this bet with you:

1) if he is acquitted, he gets an immediate bump in the polls of 3 points or more.

2) if he is convicted, by the time November rolls around, he will be polling within 1 point of where he is polling right now.  That is....no negative effect.

 

Trump can only win, or run in place.  He can't lose.

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Any of our community physicians want comment about what's going on this his upper hands/wrists?  That's not a good sign for somebody of his age.  

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2 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Any of our community physicians want comment about what's going on this his upper hands/wrists?  That's not a good sign for somebody of his age.  

I suspect it's a blood surplus resulting from too much blood which is unnecessary to deliver oxygen to his tiny hands.  That, or skin failure.

-Doctor (Juris Doctor)

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2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

 

what you say is tiny might very well be outcome determinant in november.  this is going to be white knuckle.

Bolded for emphasis.  This is going to be closer than 2020.  And that was white knuckle as FUCK.

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19 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Come on perp walk, one time...

Although, Christ, that probably helps him somehow...

What a time to be alive...

“He perp walks just like Boebert’s kid…..and like our family does.”

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10 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Any of our community physicians want comment about what's going on this his upper hands/wrists?  That's not a good sign for somebody of his age.  

who are you talking about

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:

Could the jury, in theory, return a verdict today/tonight? 

yes. i’d be stunned if they did.

I assume the jury will be sequestered until they rule.  When I was a bailiff, I had a bad situation where the jury was sequestered mid-deliberation at a local motel.   One of the guy’s sons did not know dad was doing jury duty, but thought he was cheating on mom at the motel ‘cause he spotted his car.  One of Spokane’s finest saw the kid peering in a motel window.   The kid and the officer and the motel manager tried to come see the dad, but I stopped them and said they could not speak to my juror.  Cop cared not for a bailiff and got bowed up and said he “was in charge”.  He put his hand on his holster.  I had a Smith model 36 ‘Chief’s Special’ 38 snub nose as my service weapon, and told the guy to chill because I could get to my gun quicker than him - and neither of us needed to be shot over something so stupid when we could call the judge and get his input.  

My judge was bigly unhappy and tore the cop a new asshole for almost causing a mistrial in a week long rape-murder trial.  

(pro-tip for rapist murderers:

Do not kidnap a front desk clerk, but if you do, Try not to fill out a registration card With your name and vehicle number before you leave the scene and go kidnap rape murder)

 

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