2023 Fall Camp Thread of Dominance

[Red Five 40574]

I put away those kinds of thoughts about Brooks after watching him in his first game.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13000]

1 minute ago, Fud said:

Fwiw, there were major programs sniffing around but he didn’t give them the time of day 

I remember, but I doubt there were expectations of him being a starter over 5 stars when he committed.

[MH BEVO 1264]

1 minute ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

The point is, players of a certain talent immediately transcend above other, more experienced players. That’s the level of talent we should always hope to bring in, and unlike Tom Herman’s dumb ass, get them on the field immediately. 

I’ve loved me some Brooks, what little we’ve seen, but here’s a reminder about expectations of the program, his offer list:

I whole heartily agree that the best should play/start. I just hope 3 years in the program is actually building players. If this Ced B is like the last Ced B then I’ll eat my crow with a smile. 

[Fud 9528]

1 minute ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

I remember, but I doubt there were expectations of him being a starter over 5 stars when he committed.

They’ll both get a ton of first team reps. Shrugs 

[Pato del Muerto 52232]

10 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

The point is, players of a certain talent immediately transcend above other, more experienced players. That’s the level of talent we should always hope to bring in, and unlike Tom Herman’s dumb ass, get them on the field immediately. 

I’ve loved me some Brooks, what little we’ve seen, but here’s a reminder about expectations of the program. His offer list:

Now do d’onta foreman

[Slacks 6787]

On 8/17/2023 at 8:21 AM, Tylerocks said:

With the exception of Alabama

 So we won't out talent everyone, right? 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13000]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Now do d’onta foreman

Which goes back to my original statement, and still supports my view about expectations.

[Knewk210 244]

52 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Defense should be getting the better of the offense in these type of settings a large majority of the time or at worst breaking even.

The offense isn’t gameplanning, the number of true play calls to learn is far fewer on defense, defense has probably seen the bread and butter offensive plays 20x a week during practice, etc.

Only program I can recall recently where I routinely read about the offense dominating the defense in scrimmages was Riley’s OU teams and we know how those defenses turned out.

I totally agree. I would be concerned if the offense was dominating at this point. Defense is very familiar with the same offense they practice against weekly for months during the Spring and Fall as opposed to an offense they see once a year with one week preparation.

Another thing I’m encouraged about is the “Saban recruiting pitch” which is with the talent and roster upgrades, the offense is now practicing against talent better than what they will play during the season except maybe Alabama.  The offense will be fine.
 

I’ve been following Texas football since like my first game in 1970 against TCU and have experienced all the cycles the past 50 years. During that period , I haven’t looked more forward to a season except 2006 maybe 1983 when I was a senior at UT. I’m convinced this is a playoff team. If we get past Alabama, I don’t see another loss.

[Pato del Muerto 52232]

1 minute ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Which goes back to my original statement, and still supports my view about expectations.

But just like foreman, when brooks gets in the game he gets yards.  So maybe put away the recruiting rankings and offer lists at this point and go by what he’s done on the field for Texas. 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13000]

Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

But just like foreman, when brooks gets in the game he gets yards.  So maybe put away the recruiting rankings and offer lists at this point and go by what he’s done on the field for Texas. 

You’re dense. I’m not limiting his potential based on his recruiting rankings, I’m limiting the expectations based on where the player started. 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

36 minutes ago, texifornia said:

We have an NIL thread in the Recruiting board please don't make us go through this Mizzou shit on a fourth thread.

Jaylon Ford was a low ass 3 star. Damn near a 2 star. It’s a fucking tragedy if we don’t bench him for Anthony Hill. Because expectations and such. 
 

Next I’m going to do Colt McCoy and Jevan Snead. 
 

Because their expectation should be limited due to where they started. 

Edited August 20, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[ClubWhatever 12082]

4 minutes ago, Knewk210 said:

I’m convinced this is a playoff team. If we get past Alabama, I don’t see another loss.

This team has to prove it can stop the run again before I will predict anything.  The edges of the defense (DE, OLB)  are not proven. 

[Knewk210 244]

4 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

You’re dense. I’m not limiting his potential based on his recruiting rankings, I’m limiting the expectations based on where the player started. 

Remember when we were excited about Kyle Porter? We have come a long way and I’m sharing perspective!

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

Murphy is going to get so much media hype next season for whichever SEC school takes him. He'll light up offseason videos and north east western state while Manning starts at Michigan in his 2nd game. I'm sure some here will bitch and moan if he struggles out of the gate while Murphy is lighting it up against nobodies. 

[ousux 5581]

Brooks has trouble staying healthy. We will need all 4 backs 

I could see at least 5 different backs getting significant touches as the season wears on. We forget about Red but it sounds like he runs angry and zero fucks given about his health. That could be deadly to a tired defense in the 4th quarter.

[ATXhorn17 1610]

Murphy is going to get so much media hype next season for whichever SEC school takes him. He'll light up offseason videos and north east western state while Manning starts at Michigan in his 2nd game. I'm sure some here will bitch and moan if he struggles out of the gate while Murphy is lighting it up against nobodies. 

Well, Murphy would likely have to sit a year if he transfers in-conference to another SEC school… So he’d be BIG bound.

[ATXhorn17 1610]

I could see at least 5 different backs getting significant touches as the season wears on. We forget about Red but it sounds like he runs angry and zero fucks given about his health. That could be deadly to a tired defense in the 4th quarter.

Pretty sure the IT guys said Red is struggling to “play school” and came to camp fat/out of shape…

[ousux 5581]

Pretty sure the IT guys said Red is struggling to “play school” and came to camp fat/out of shape…

Welp, at least the zero fucks given part checks out.

[conVINCEd 21468]

1 minute ago, ATXhorn17 said:

Pretty sure the IT guys said Red is struggling to “play school” and came to camp fat/out of shape…

We’ve seen this before.  Predictable headcases become headcases.  Doesn’t @closetojumping have to fist himself because Blue is still on the roster?   Let’s roll with Brooks/Baxter with a little Kelian mixed in and call it a day.  

[Texas Wahoo 3382]

10 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

Well, Murphy would likely have to sit a year if he transfers in-conference to another SEC school… So he’d be BIG bound.

That’s not a thing anymore. 
 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/sec-passes-rule-allowing-immediate-eligibility-for-intraconference-transfers-starting-in-2021-season/amp/

 

[ousux 5581]

We’ve seen this before.  Predictable headcases become headcases.  Doesn’t [mention=429]closetojumping[/mention] have to fist himself because Blue is still on the roster?   Let’s roll with Brooks/Baxter with a little Kelian mixed in and call it a day.  

Quite a few aggy geniuses think they'll snag Murphy for next season after he watches the glorious JimBobby offense in action and Arch is "given" the starting job after the spring game.

[Knewk210 244]

26 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

This team has to prove it can stop the run again before I will predict anything.  The edges of the defense (DE, OLB)  are not proven. 

I hear you on that concern. I believe the adjustments with Burke and Sorell and situational adjustments of Collins and Hill will address that issue. It does appear staff acknowledges this weakness and at least have a plan. I’m going with buy not sell at this point!

[Codaxx 5552]

27 minutes ago, ousux said:

2 hours ago, 6th Street said:

Brooks has trouble staying healthy. We will need all 4 backs 

I could see at least 5 different backs getting significant touches as the season wears on. We forget about Red but it sounds like he runs angry and zero fucks given about his health. That could be deadly to a tired defense in the 4th quarter.

I really don’t see that. Baxter and Brooks are the only 3 down backs on the roster. Red may fit in there, but he has had a tough summer. Keilan and Blue are 3rd down backs, change pace guys. Maybe those guys go off in a game like Rice, when the OL dominates. I can’t see them getting a lot of carries vs high end defenses, where you need guys that can get that extra yard or 2 after contact 

[ousux 5581]

I really don’t see that. Baxter and Brooks are the only 3 down backs on the roster. Red may fit in there, but he has had a tough summer. Keilan and Blue are 3rd down backs, change pace guys. Maybe those guys go off in a game like Rice, when the OL dominates. I can’t see them getting a lot of carries vs high end defenses, where you need guys that can get that extra yard or 2 after contact 

I hope the Brooks/Baxter combo get the majority of carries combined with KRob on passing downs, but with Baxter being a true Freshman (it took Bijan a full season to get comfortable blocking pass rushers) and Brooks being injury prone I can see Choice trying out several combos throughout the season. I really don't care as long as it's effective and keeps us from being one dimensional on offense.

[T-shirt Sip 2095]

1 hour ago, ATXhorn17 said:

Well, Murphy would likely have to sit a year if he transfers in-conference to another SEC school… So he’d be BIG bound.

Not necessarily. Texas doesn’t officially join the SEC until after the 2024 Spring semester. He can transfer this December or even wait until after Spring ball next year and it wouldn’t be considered an inter-conference transfer.  

[bigcigar 1161]

Guessing the offensive line still can’t run block worth a shit. No bijan this year - 9 win ceiling.

[T-shirt Sip 2095]

3 minutes ago, bigcigar said:

Guessing the offensive line still can’t run block worth a shit. No bijan this year - 9 win ceiling.

bigcigar/smallballs 

[bigcigar 1161]

1 minute ago, T-shirt Sip said:

bigcigar/smallballs 

Good one. Got me

[Ghost of Shag 2573]

The entire season is about Ewers. That’s it.

Edited August 20, 2023 by Ghost of Shag

[Pato del Muerto 52232]

1 hour ago, T-shirt Sip said:

Not necessarily. Texas doesn’t officially join the SEC until after the 2024 Spring semester. He can transfer this December or even wait until after Spring ball next year and it wouldn’t be considered an inter-conference transfer.  

Do we need a refresher for intra vs inter?

[LebongJames 1781]

1 hour ago, Ghost of Shag said:

The entire season is about Ewers. That’s it.

Maybe some defense 

[Fondren & Main 6626]

3 hours ago, bigcigar said:

Good one. Got me

[Biff Tannen 45439]

This thread has gone full regard. Fuck the off season. See y’all in 12 days. 

[LTtxfan 48823]

Texas Defense has to generate more turnovers for the Horns to blowout more teams this year...

A healthy Catalon plus AntHill hopefully helps in the turnover department.  Manny Muhammad may really surprise too...

[Revolution512 1465]

10 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

The entire season is about Ewers. That’s it.

If Texas doesn’t fix the guard issues we are going to have problems.

[Hornlover 8824]

21 minutes ago, Revolution512 said:

If Texas doesn’t fix the guard issues we are going to have problems.

I thought we were gonna have Majors as the Fall Guy? 

[Cajun 11671]

[Park Gothic 4923]

3 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

I thought we were gonna have Majors as the Fall Guy? 

That’s what literally all of us thought but luckily we have luminaries like Ian Boyd to set us straight. 

[Tylerocks 2550]

Kool-aid has definitely soured up in here.

 

 

[Tex Long 4308]

31 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Texas Defense has to generate more turnovers for the Horns to blowout more teams this year...

A healthy Catalon plus AntHill hopefully helps in the turnover department.  Manny Muhammad may really surprise too...

Somebody came up with a slightly different description: turnarounds.  INTs and fumble recoveries are part of those, but so are 3&outs, kick/punt blocks, 4th-down stops, big sacks, big returns, explosive plays. I like it, because it involves all three teams and gives errbody a boost when we do one.

[closetohumping 17354]

Scrimmage report from OB:  good day for defense.   Baxter stood out again.  
 

Spoiler

 

 

[6th Street 6329]

Lack of explosive plays 

[stork642 4498]

1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

Lack of explosive plays 

[Hookem2147 20876]

4 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Lack of explosive plays 

IT reported late last night that Ewers and Worthy connected on a 60 yard bomb.

[CashMcCoy 3199]

You have to love the Jett Bush comment thrown in at the end

[Red Five 40574]

I have zero problem with Jett Bush as the backup to Ford. Other than being a white walk-on, I'm not sure why he gets shit on as much as he does. 

Good to hear that Baxter is having a great fall camp. I didn't think he looked ready in the spring. 

[Newy25 7629]

100% chance Bush is one of Burton’s sources. He constantly tries to sell him as a reliable linebacker despite absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back that up. 

[Newy25 7629]

15 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I have zero problem with Jett Bush as the backup to Ford. Other than being a white walk-on, I'm not sure why he gets shit on as much as he does. 

Other than he is small, slow and not a good football player I see no reason to criticize his play on the field. If you really think he is our first linebacker off the bench if Ford gets hurt, you should join Ian Boyd in a discussion of linebacker talent because he will be the only one who agrees with you. 

[Red Five 40574]

6 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Other than he is small, slow and not a good football player I see no reason to criticize his play on the field. If you really think he is our first linebacker off the bench if Ford gets hurt, you should join Ian Boyd in a discussion of linebacker talent because he will be the only one who agrees with you. 

He's 6'2" 240.

[Newy25 7629]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

He's 6'2" 240.

All Big 12, IMO.