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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, what happens when a super-hyped player with multi-millions in NIL busts.

He's not gonna have shit for NIL next year is he?

He will, but not like this year. 

Plus, I would bet that he signed multi year contracts.

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Im just trying to figure out what kind of pressures are going to be on him for next year.

I honestly think he'd probably be best off transferring and trying to make a fresh start somewhere else.

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What is wrong with Arch? 

As everyone has noted, he looked better than this when Quinn was hurt last year. I realize the offensive supporting cast is less than Quinn had, but Arch can't make even basic, easy throws. He looked sort of competent in the 2nd half last week, but tonight he's simply awful.

WTF? How can he be this bad. He looks like me out there.

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5 minutes ago, Dignan said:

Our offense is trash. Crazy Kentucky has a better offense than us. This is on (in this order): Sark, Sark, Sark. And our OL and Arch.

Arch is way too low. 

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He’s just not consistent enough to be a quality starting QB. 
 

sark needs to think about what does he really want for next year as bringing Arch back will be an easy way to get fired. 

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He’s just not consistent enough to be a quality starting QB. 
 
sark needs to think about what does he really want for next year as bringing Arch back will be an easy way to get fired. 

Bust. Period. Full stop landing. It's year 3 in this system. Have to test the waters in the portal this off-season for an OC and QB.
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Arch isn't good enough to carry this team, but he isn't completely as bad as he looks at times.

The offense is a fucking shit show all around. TEs are average at best, WRs are slightly above average, RBs are average, OL is below average. QB is generally below average as a result.

The lack of cohesion and leadership only compounds the issues, no one seems to hold anyone else accountable. Even DJ Campbell seems less fiery this year. 

Caldwell might be worth a look, but there's 5+million reasons why he won't get an extended one. Despite that, him taking over would only punt our potential issues to next year.

 

We aren't beating Georgia/Vandy/A&M unless Arch goes bananas. Any team that can score more than 20 on our defense is put us in a real bind offensively.

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There was not a QB on TV today (Saturday, October 18th) who threw the ball as poorly as Arch Manning threw the ball today versus the Kentucky Wildcats football team. 

He was absolutely awful.

Now that what’s his name in Norman has had a week more of practice coming off of surgery, Arch is the worst thrower of the football in the SEC. That includes Jackson Arnold.

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I checked. 172 yards at the end of regulation is not the worst since 2000…I thought it might be.

153 yards against ou in 65-13 loss in 2003. Scored the same number of points though!

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Arch needs to go back to Lowsy-ana.  Major Applewhite was the better QB from New Orleans.  Cut his NIL.  Bench his ass.  Make him transfer.  He sucks.  Chris Sims was a way better legacy.

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7 minutes ago, sidis said:

I checked. 172 yards at the end of regulation is not the worst since 2000…I thought it might be.

153 yards against ou in 65-13 loss in 2003. Scored the same number of points though!

Still had 327 yards of total offense in that game.

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2 minutes ago, Monahorns said:

Arch needs to go back to Lowsy-ana.  Major Applewhite was the better QB from New Orleans.  Cut his NIL.  Bench his ass.  Make him transfer.  He sucks.  Chris Sims was a way better legacy.

Baton Rouge, but point taken.

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We escaped. That's good. You can make the excuse to not play the backup in this game bc he hasn't 'prepared as the starter'. But this week, he needs to at least split time with first team.

Whatever the argument was against playing the backup quarterback, I don't know what it is anymore

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Arch is bad. But he’s looking worse because of terrible OL protection a lot, and a bad scheme for him (at this point in time in his development)

Caldwell wasn’t brought in for Owen’s, was he? It was for Arch. 

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30 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Arch isn't good enough to carry this team, but he isn't completely as bad as he looks at times.

The offense is a fucking shit show all around. TEs are average at best, WRs are slightly above average, RBs are average, OL is below average. QB is generally below average as a result.

The lack of cohesion and leadership only compounds the issues, no one seems to hold anyone else accountable. Even DJ Campbell seems less fiery this year. 

Caldwell might be worth a look, but there's 5+million reasons why he won't get an extended one. Despite that, him taking over would only punt our potential issues to next year.

 

We aren't beating Georgia/Vandy/A&M unless Arch goes bananas. Any team that can score more than 20 on our defense is put us in a real bind offensively.

TEs are very good. WRs are good enough, as are RBs. This is an OL/Sark/Arch problem in no particular order. Ultimately it’s on Sark for failing to utilize the portal for OL, and for not getting his QB right. 

And I’m not worried about Vandy or A&M more than Miss St. We can win all remaining games. It’s unlikely, but it’s impossible that we lose to all three teams you highlighted. 

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There are many ways to dress this turd sandwich. 
 

- Arch has now played 3 SEC games + fOSU. Something is sore. There’s your cover for a benching.

- Caldwell probably runs well enough for a package. Think of it in basketball terms, good chance for a breather.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Arch is bad. But he’s looking worse because of terrible OL protection a lot, and a bad scheme for him (at this point in time in his development)

Caldwell wasn’t brought in for Owen’s, was he? It was for Arch. 

Arch is missing throws that are in every scheme. Day 1 install type shit. He’s a tough SOB, that’s for sure.

Caldwell is here because of Owen’s, who’s now behind a true freshman on depth chart. What do Arch, Caldwell and Lacey all have in common? 

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Arch missed 5-7 open throws. He played poorly.

Arch got killed again behind this offensive line. 

Sark called a terrible game and abandoned the running game from the very beginning. 

This is the most undisciplined group of offensive players we've had under Sark by a mile.

We need our receivers to make the tough grabs. 

Matthew Caldwell is a band-aid on a season (probably) already lost. There is no positive future for this program with him taking over as the starter by benching Arch. He would also have to play behind this same offensive line. The fact that so many people take a handful of meaningless Caldwell plays as enough to start him makes me questions the intellect of our fanbase. 

I don't want to ruin KJ Lacey's future or confidence behind this line. 

We have to ride this out with Arch and see where we are at the end of the year. 

 

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1 minute ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

TEs are very good. WRs are good enough, as are RBs. This is an OL/Sark/Arch problem in no particular order. Ultimately it’s on Sark for failing to utilize the portal for OL, and for not getting his QB right. 

And I’m not worried about Vandy or A&M more than Miss St. We can win all remaining games. It’s unlikely, but it’s impossible that we lose to all three teams you highlighted. 

TEs are poor blockers and they aren't dynamic in the passing game. Endries has all but disappeared as a receiver, but obviously Arch is missing throws all over. 

WIsner is good, but no one else is a value add. Pass pro is also below average here.

Sark is definitely an issue though. We thought it was Quinn, but now we see the common denominator here.

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1 minute ago, Levi said:

Arch is missing throws that are in every scheme. Day 1 install type shit. He’s a tough SOB, that’s for sure.

Caldwell is here because of Owen’s, who’s now behind a true freshman on depth chart. What do Arch, Caldwell and Lacey all have in common? 

hold on, let me go double-check Lacey's picture.

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49 minutes ago, F250 said:

Why do so many wins under Sark feel like being constipated?

clapper, no-cluer, coker (allegedly), squatter. quarter century of texas football. 

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2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

 

We have to ride this out with Arch and see where we are at the end of the year. 

 

6-6 and a blow out loss to USF in a bowl game?

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Posted
1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Arch missed 5-7 open throws. He played poorly.

Arch got killed again behind this offensive line. 

Sark called a terrible game and abandoned the running game from the very beginning. 

This is the most undisciplined group of offensive players we've had under Sark by a mile.

We need our receivers to make the tough grabs. 

Matthew Caldwell is a band-aid on a season (probably) already lost. There is no positive future for this program with him taking over as the starter by benching Arch. He would also have to play behind this same offensive line. The fact that so many people take a handful of meaningless Caldwell plays as enough to start him makes me questions the intellect of our fanbase. 

I don't want to ruin KJ Lacey's future or confidence behind this line. 

We have to ride this out with Arch and see where we are at the end of the year. 

 

the only real QB question is do we have an honest competition for the spot next year. I am not hopeful.

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Talk of benching Arch is ridiculous. He made 3 bad throws tonight. Admittedly they were very bad and my son’s HS QB (15) makes them routinely. But he’s not getting benched. This O is bad with him and it would be bad without him with a far less talented QB. I’d look squarely at Sark and the line and tell supposed QB Whisperer to tell his prized recruit to stop thinking and fucking play. 

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