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4 hours ago, bolverk said:

He was pretty vocal over the weekend about a governor and former VP candidate suggesting that China might be a good mediator but was utterly silent when the current president suggested Putin, as were a couple of other posters.

 

It's impossible to keep up with the dumb shit spewing from his mouth, so it got past me. Your creepy fixation is duly noted. 

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11 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I stated much earlier let the Arab states provide the aid. The international red Crescent for instance. It cannot be US. We just open the port. 

Love it or hate it, no one does logistics better than the DOD. We could have the airports operational in 24 hours, contract all the local trucking companies. It would take the UN and NATO a few months of meetings to decide who was in charge of what and the missions official language. 

Make Jebel Ali Airport as the air hub. Right near it is the UN and US assistance warehouses. There is a lot of medicine and food in there. The scenario it was designed for is a tent city for 100K and provision of food, cooking fuel (including small stoves) and water purification units. Iran is not that bad (yet). 

We open, they provide, Iranians move at the Regional level. 

Are you not concerned that under current leadership, a lot of that expertise has been stripped? Does the DOGEing of our foreign aid programs and capabilities not present a problem?

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2 minutes ago, royiv said:

Are you not concerned that under current leadership, a lot of that expertise has been stripped? Does the DOGEing of our foreign aid programs and capabilities not present a problem?

too cloak room!

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15 minutes ago, troph said:

I thought we were supposed to ignore everything trump says?  

Nah you can acknowledge it but can’t voice an opinion. The way message boards were designed. 

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Below is a good but somewhat long piece on the current and historical aspects of internal forces at play within Iran.

Israel-Iran updates: Khamenei warns US strikes will have serious consequences

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June 18 (Reuters) - Iran's ruling establishment is under intense pressure from Israeli strikes that continue to target senior figures, the security apparatus and the state media.

However, despite repeated bouts of nationwide protests stretching back decades, Iran's opposition is fragmented among rival groups and ideological factions and appears to have little organised presence inside the country.

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Here are some opposition groups or blocs:

MONARCHISTS

Iran's last shah, Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, fled in 1979 as the revolution took hold. He died in Egypt in 1980.

His son, Reza Pahlavi, was heir to the Peacock Throne when the dynasty was ousted and, now based in the United States, he calls for regime change through non-violent civil disobedience and a referendum on a new government.

However while Pahlavi has plenty of admirers in the Iranian diaspora who support a return to the monarchy, it is uncertain how popular that idea might be inside the country.

Most Iranians are not old enough to remember life before the revolution and the country looks very different to the one Pahlavi's father fled 46 years ago.

While many Iranians look back with nostalgia on that pre-revolutionary era, many others also recall its inequalities and oppression.

Meanwhile there are splits even among pro-monarchist groups.

PEOPLE'S MUJAHIDEEN ORGANISATION

The Mujahideen were a powerful leftist group that staged bombing campaigns against the Shah's government and U.S. targets in the 1970s but ultimately fell out with the other factions.

The group is often known by its Persian name, the Mujahideen-e Khalq Organisation, or by the acronyms MEK or MKO.

Many Iranians, including sworn enemies of the Islamic Republic, cannot forgive it for siding with Iraq against Iran during the war of 1980-88.

The group was the first to publicly reveal in 2002 that Iran had a secret uranium enrichment programme, but it has shown little sign of any active presence inside Iran for years.

In exile, its leader Massoud Rajavi has not been seen for more than 20 years and his wife, Maryam Rajavi, has taken control. Rights groups have criticised it for what they call cult-like behaviour and abuses of its followers, which the group denies.

The group is the main force behind the National Council of Resistance of Iran, led by Maryam Rajavi, which has an active presence in many Western countries.

ETHNIC MINORITY GROUPS

Iran's mostly Sunni Muslim Kurdish and Baluch minorities have often chafed against rule from the Persian-speaking, Shi'ite government in Tehran.

Several Kurdish groups have long organised opposition to the Islamic Republic in the western parts of the country where they form a majority, and there have been periods of active insurgency against government forces.

In Baluchistan, along Iran's border with Pakistan, opposition to Tehran ranges from supporters of Sunni clerics seeking to carve out more space for their followers within the Islamic Republic to armed jihadists linked to al Qaeda.

When major bouts of protest have spread across Iran, they have often been fiercest in Kurdish and Baluchi areas, but in neither region is there a single, unified opposition movement that poses a clear threat to Tehran's rule.

PROTEST MOVEMENTS

Hundreds of thousands of Iranians have taken to the streets in mass protests at successive points for decades.

After the 2009 presidential election, demonstrators filled Tehran and other cities accusing the authorities of rigging the vote for the incumbent Mahmoud Ahmadinejad against rival candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi.

Mousavi's 'Green Movement' was crushed and he was put under house arrest, along with political ally and former parliament speaker Mehdi Karoubi.

The movement, which sought democratic reform within the existing system of the Islamic republic, is now widely seen as defunct.

In 2022 major protests again gripped Iran centred on women's rights. The Woman, Life, Freedom demonstrations continued for months but without resulting in an organisation or leadership and many of the protesters were ultimately arrested and jailed.

 

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Add this to the steadily growing pile of "Mossad is scary"...

The level of penetration Mossad has into the Iranian day-to-day operational intelligence is insane.  

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Trump keeps world guessing about US military action on Iran

Sometime our Potus is absolutely correct.

Link of Info Summation Up to Current

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WASHINGTON/DUBAI/JERUSALEM, June 18 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump kept the world guessing on Wednesday whether the U.S. will join Israel's bombardment of Iranian nuclear and missile sites, as residents of Iran's capital streamed out of the city on the sixth day of the air assault.

Speaking to reporters outside the White House, Trump declined to say if he had made any decision on whether to join Israel's campaign. "I may do it. I may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do," he said.

In its latest bombings, Israel said its air force destroyed Iran's police headquarters.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a video released by his office on Wednesday, said Israel was "progressing step by step" towards eliminating threats posed by Iran's nuclear sites and ballistic missile arsenal.

"We control the skies over Tehran. We are striking with tremendous force at the regime of the ayatollahs. We are hitting the nuclear sites, the missiles, the headquarters, the symbols of the regime," Netanyahu said. The prime minister's office published a photo showing Netanyahu convening his cabinet and said it was meeting on Wednesday evening.

He also thanked Trump, "a great friend of the state of Israel", for standing by its side in the conflict, saying the two were in continuous contact.

Trump has veered from proposing a swift diplomatic end to the war to suggesting the United States might join it. In social media posts on Tuesday, he mused about killing Khamenei, then demanded Iran's "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!"

A source familiar with internal discussions said Trump and his team were considering options that included joining Israel in strikes against Iranian nuclear installations.

Iran's mission to the United Nations mocked Trump in posts on X, describing him as "a has-been warmonger clinging to relevance."

Israel's military said scores of Israeli jets had struck targets in and around Tehran and in western Iran in the previous 24 hours in three waves, hitting sites producing raw materials, components and manufacturing systems for missiles.

"We are focusing on Tehran. Among the targets we attacked was the site of a centrifuge manufacturing site crucial to the Iranian regime's attempt to enrich uranium," Israeli military spokesperson Brigadier General Effie Defrin said.

FLEEING TEHRAN

Arezou, a 31-year-old Tehran resident, told Reuters by phone that she had made it out of the city to the nearby resort town of Lavasan.

"We will stay here as long as this war continues. My friend’s house in Tehran was attacked and her brother was injured. They are civilians," she said. "Why are we paying the price for the regime’s decision to pursue a nuclear programme?”

In Israel, sirens rang out anew at dusk on Wednesday warning of further incoming Iranian missiles. There were no immediate reports of serious damage, while a motorist was injured by missile debris, Israeli medics said.

The army later advised civilians they could leave protected areas, signalling the threat had passed.

At Ramat Gan train station east of Tel Aviv, people were lying on city-supplied mattresses or sitting in the odd camping chair, with plastic water bottles strewn about.

"I feel scared, overwhelmed. Especially because I live in a densely populated area that Iran seems to be targeting, and our city has very old buildings, without shelters and safe spaces," said Tamar Weiss, clutching her four-month-old daughter.

Iran has reported at least 224 deaths in Israeli attacks, mostly civilians, but has not updated that toll for days.

In Israel, the Iranian missile salvoes mark the first time in decades of shadow war and proxy conflict that a significant number of projectiles fired from Iran have penetrated defences, killing Israelis in their homes.

Since Friday, Iran has fired around 400 missiles at Israel, some 40 of which have pierced air defences, killing 24 people, all of them civilians, according to Israeli authorities.

Two U.S. officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said a U.S. military flight out of Israel on Wednesday was used to evacuate some embassy personnel.

LEVERAGE

Iran has been exploring options for leverage, including veiled threats to hit the global oil market by restricting access to the Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz, the world's most important shipping artery for oil.

Inside Iran, authorities are intent on preventing panic and shortages. Fewer images of destruction have been allowed to circulate than in the early days of the bombing, when state media showed pictures of explosions, fires and flattened apartments. A ban on filming by the public has been imposed.

The communications ministry said on Wednesday that temporary restrictions on internet access would be imposed to help prevent "the enemy from threatening citizens' lives and property".

Iran's ability to hit back hard at Israel through strikes by proxy militia close to Israeli borders has been limited by the devastating blows Israel has dealt to Tehran's regional allies - Hamas and Hezbollah - in conflicts in Gaza and Lebanon since 2023.

 

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14 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Another fallacy. Links between 10/7 and Iran are undeniable. I’ve said nothing about Saddam and 9/11. You’re not good at this. 

If it really was Iran's fault, are you admitting that all the civilian deaths in Gaza were war crimes?

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2 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yes because it’s wholly irrelevant. In the eyes of nobody, except you and Fantana. 

Why don't you keep my name out of your fucking smarmy Bill Maher ass mouth when I haven't even posted all day? The fuck is wrong with you? You report every single post I make that even tangentially mentions you and you still can't stop yourself from mentioning me every time you get into a fight with someone about Israel?

Do I really occupy that much space inside your dome? Get help and leave me alone, dawg!

I don't want to engage you anymore because you don't have any emotional self control when it comes to anything to do with the Middle East or any criticism of Trump. It's exhausting and I doubt I'm the only one that feels that way!

There's serious shit going on right now and you guys can't stop shitting up the thread arguing about 10/7 and bringing up petty personal grievances. Stop it!

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1 hour ago, utee94 said:

Secret Mountain Compound.  You keep using that word...

 

 

Ancient Persian secret, huh?

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Its been a tough campaign but I have brought down Ana de Armas’ defenses, paving the way for some large scale operations in her territory. 

She likes butt play, you've been warned. Just please don't tell her I told you because it's her secret.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/americas/israel-iran-air-war-enters-sixth-day-trump-calls-irans-unconditional-surrender-2025-06-17/

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WASHINGTON/DUBAI/JERUSALEM, June 18 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump kept the world guessing on Wednesday whether the U.S. will join Israel's bombardment of Iranian nuclear and missile sites, as residents of Iran's capital streamed out of the city on the sixth day of the air assault.
Speaking to reporters outside the White House, Trump declined to say if he had made any decision on whether to join Israel's campaign. "I may do it. I may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do," he said.

Cool dude thanks just let me know

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59 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

 

/Iranian "stealth" fighter jpeg.

 

Crazy, all the world's worst asshole nations are paper tigers.  Excepting us of course. We can do real deal evil exactly as advertised.

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Just now, Born to Run said:

/Iranian "stealth" fighter jpeg.

 

Crazy, all the world's worst asshole nations are paper tigers.  Excepting us of course. We can do real deal evil exactly as advertised.

We do quite often in fact. 

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2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

She likes butt play, you've been warned. Just please don't tell her I told you because it's her secret.

Like my butt or her's? Can I just stick a thumb in her cornhole during doggie or do I have to lick her butthole? I'm not a huge fan of anal, and my kiester is a no go zone. Please advise, may need to cancel our date if she's wants to Now This me.

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5 minutes ago, immamac said:

We do quite often in fact. 

Pssshh we only killed between 300,000 to 800,000 Iraqis. For no reason except the Middle East  leg of Toby Keith's "Murder More Brown People Tour

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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Iran announced they are joining the SEC.

Awesome! Can they replace aggy?

 

Never mind, that's what I get for getting all excited and posting my lame joke before I see if everyone else has said the same thing.

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2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

If it really was Iran's fault, are you admitting that all the civilian deaths in Gaza were war crimes?

Yes, every Hamas human shield is a War crime committed by Hamas.  We are in agreement.

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2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Trump keeps world guessing about US military action on Iran

Sometime our Potus is absolutely correct.

Link of Info Summation Up to Current

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WASHINGTON/DUBAI/JERUSALEM, June 18 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump kept the world guessing on Wednesday whether the U.S. will join Israel's bombardment of Iranian nuclear and missile sites, as residents of Iran's capital streamed out of the city on the sixth day of the air assault.

Speaking to reporters outside the White House, Trump declined to say if he had made any decision on whether to join Israel's campaign. "I may do it. I may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do," he said.

In its latest bombings, Israel said its air force destroyed Iran's police headquarters.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a video released by his office on Wednesday, said Israel was "progressing step by step" towards eliminating threats posed by Iran's nuclear sites and ballistic missile arsenal.

"We control the skies over Tehran. We are striking with tremendous force at the regime of the ayatollahs. We are hitting the nuclear sites, the missiles, the headquarters, the symbols of the regime," Netanyahu said. The prime minister's office published a photo showing Netanyahu convening his cabinet and said it was meeting on Wednesday evening.

He also thanked Trump, "a great friend of the state of Israel", for standing by its side in the conflict, saying the two were in continuous contact.

Trump has veered from proposing a swift diplomatic end to the war to suggesting the United States might join it. In social media posts on Tuesday, he mused about killing Khamenei, then demanded Iran's "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!"

A source familiar with internal discussions said Trump and his team were considering options that included joining Israel in strikes against Iranian nuclear installations.

Iran's mission to the United Nations mocked Trump in posts on X, describing him as "a has-been warmonger clinging to relevance."

Israel's military said scores of Israeli jets had struck targets in and around Tehran and in western Iran in the previous 24 hours in three waves, hitting sites producing raw materials, components and manufacturing systems for missiles.

"We are focusing on Tehran. Among the targets we attacked was the site of a centrifuge manufacturing site crucial to the Iranian regime's attempt to enrich uranium," Israeli military spokesperson Brigadier General Effie Defrin said.

FLEEING TEHRAN

Arezou, a 31-year-old Tehran resident, told Reuters by phone that she had made it out of the city to the nearby resort town of Lavasan.

"We will stay here as long as this war continues. My friend’s house in Tehran was attacked and her brother was injured. They are civilians," she said. "Why are we paying the price for the regime’s decision to pursue a nuclear programme?”

In Israel, sirens rang out anew at dusk on Wednesday warning of further incoming Iranian missiles. There were no immediate reports of serious damage, while a motorist was injured by missile debris, Israeli medics said.

The army later advised civilians they could leave protected areas, signalling the threat had passed.

At Ramat Gan train station east of Tel Aviv, people were lying on city-supplied mattresses or sitting in the odd camping chair, with plastic water bottles strewn about.

"I feel scared, overwhelmed. Especially because I live in a densely populated area that Iran seems to be targeting, and our city has very old buildings, without shelters and safe spaces," said Tamar Weiss, clutching her four-month-old daughter.

Iran has reported at least 224 deaths in Israeli attacks, mostly civilians, but has not updated that toll for days.

In Israel, the Iranian missile salvoes mark the first time in decades of shadow war and proxy conflict that a significant number of projectiles fired from Iran have penetrated defences, killing Israelis in their homes.

Since Friday, Iran has fired around 400 missiles at Israel, some 40 of which have pierced air defences, killing 24 people, all of them civilians, according to Israeli authorities.

Two U.S. officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said a U.S. military flight out of Israel on Wednesday was used to evacuate some embassy personnel.

LEVERAGE

Iran has been exploring options for leverage, including veiled threats to hit the global oil market by restricting access to the Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz, the world's most important shipping artery for oil.

Inside Iran, authorities are intent on preventing panic and shortages. Fewer images of destruction have been allowed to circulate than in the early days of the bombing, when state media showed pictures of explosions, fires and flattened apartments. A ban on filming by the public has been imposed.

The communications ministry said on Wednesday that temporary restrictions on internet access would be imposed to help prevent "the enemy from threatening citizens' lives and property".

Iran's ability to hit back hard at Israel through strikes by proxy militia close to Israeli borders has been limited by the devastating blows Israel has dealt to Tehran's regional allies - Hamas and Hezbollah - in conflicts in Gaza and Lebanon since 2023.

 

The President needs to send the Supreme Leader a letter similar to his Mark Cuban letter and then tweet it to the world.  

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Anyway, back to real news that isn't exclusively being reported by the Daily Wire:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/european-ministers-hold-nuclear-talks-with-iran-friday-geneva-source-says-2025-06-18/

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BERLIN, June 18 (Reuters) - The foreign ministers of Germany, France and Britain plan to hold nuclear talks with their Iranian counterpart on Friday in Geneva, a German diplomatic source told Reuters.


The ministers will first meet with the European Union's top diplomat, Kaja Kallas, at Germany's permanent mission in Geneva before holding a joint meeting with the Iranian foreign minister, the source said.

 

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Well, China getting the fuck out too.

China will assist citizens in Israel to evacuate to Egypt from Friday

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BEIJING - China's embassy in Israel will assist Chinese citizens who want to evacuate to leave in batches beginning on Friday, the embassy said in a notice on Thursday.

The evacuation operation will bring Chinese nationals to the Taba Border Crossing into Egypt via bus, about 360 km (224 miles) from Tel Aviv

"The Israel-Iran conflict continues to intensify, with increasing casualties, the possibility of further deterioration cannot be ruled out," the embassy warned.

Link

 

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Putin puttin' in his CV for King of Peace and Charity, but keeps "friends" secret's worse than me.

Putin says he does not want to discuss the possible Israeli-U.S. killing of Iran's supreme leader

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ST PETERSBURG - President Vladimir Putin on Thursday refused to discuss the possibility that Israel and the United States would kill Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and said the Iranian people were consolidating around the leadership in Tehran.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has openly speculated that Israel's military attacks could result in regime change in Iran while U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that the U.S. knew where Khamenei was "hiding" but that Washington was not going to kill him "for now".

Asked what his reaction would be if Israel did kill Khamenei with the assistance of the United States, Putin said: "I do not even want to discuss this possibility. I do not want to."

When pressed, Putin said he had heard the remarks about possibly killing Khamenei but that he did not want to discuss it.

"We see that today in Iran, with all the complexity of the internal political processes taking place there...that there is a consolidation of society around the country's political leadership," Putin told senior news agency editors in the northern Russian city of St Petersburg.

Putin was speaking as Trump kept the world guessing whether the U.S. would join Israel's bombardment of Iranian nuclear and missile sites and as residents of Iran's capital streamed out of the city on the sixth day of the air assault.

 Questioned about possible regime change in Iran, Putin said that before getting into something, one should always look at whether or not the main aim is being achieved before starting something.

He said Iran's underground uranium enrichment facilities were still intact.

"These underground factories, they exist, nothing has happened to them," Putin said.

"It seems to me that it would be right for everyone to look for ways to end hostilities and find ways for all parties to this conflict to come to an agreement with each other," Putin said. "In my opinion, in general, such a solution can be found."

Asked if Russia was ready to provide Iran with modern weapons to defend itself against Israeli strikes, Putin said a strategic partnership treaty signed with Tehran in January did not envisage military cooperation and that Iran had not made any formal request for assistance.

A spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry also warned that Israeli strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities risked triggering a nuclear catastrophe.

Putin said that Israel had given Moscow assurances that Russian specialists helping to build two more reactors at the Bushehr nuclear power plant in Iran would not be hurt in air strikes.

Russia has offered to take enriched uranium from Iran and to supply nuclear fuel to the country's civil energy programme.

"It is possible to ensure Iran's interests in the field of peaceful nuclear energy. And at the same time, to address Israel's concerns about its security," Putin said. "We have outlined them (our ideas) to our partners from the USA, Israel and Iran."

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3 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Trump keeps world guessing about US military action on Iran

Sometime our Potus is absolutely correct.

Rex should be along shortly to chastise you for expressing an opinion on Trump in DT.

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1 hour ago, ABSR said:

Yes, every Hamas human shield is a War crime committed by Hamas.  We are in agreement.

For the record, Israel's war crimes began well before Hamas ever even existed, with the illegal settlements in the West Bank that they continue to expand. In fact, there was a recent announcement of 22 new ones, the most significant expansion in decades.

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Now, we also mustn't leave out Netanyahu's personal culpability in committing war crimes. If you recall, there's an active warrant out on his head for a few.

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And, since we all care so deeply about law and order around here and certainly wouldn't be applying a double standard due to our own biases, we obviously shouldn’t overlook the fact that he’s currently in a prolonged corruption trial, which he somehow keeps managing to drag out. Oh, lookie here, he’s actually supposed to be under cross-examination at the moment. Funny, the timing that suddenly he decided to start bombing Iran.

You know, now that I think about it, it's possible this guy isn't really on the up-and-up. I wonder why we place so much trust in him.

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11 hours ago, bolverk said:

Yep

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11 hours ago, troph said:

I thought we were supposed to ignore everything trump says?  

 

If we are actively evacuating Americans from Israel, and we have Republican Senators doing the rounds of the talking heads to gin up support for an attack on Iran, and if Fox News is pushing it, I think in this instance those things support what he's saying and you kind of have to hear what he is saying.

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3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Now we know the real reason for Israel's attack. His son was tired of that woman. 

 

Anything to get the deposits back.

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