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13 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

I’m surprised he only asked for $230 million. He didn’t even try . Had he known it would be this easy, he’d have argued a billion and a half and maybe had it knocked down. That would cover the coverups, rape cases and libel fees, and give him enough to kick money over to FOX for their election fraud case. Who am I kidding, he’d have pocketed everything and told FOX to sue and he’d make sure they won. 

We got 3.5 more years to go bud.  This is just like that guy in Nigeria who puts $0.12 on your credit card to see if it works before taking the max.  We're going to see another charge if this one goes through.

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I got a 46, but most of the yes answers were from more than 25 years ago or had significant qualifiers.  Have I ever lived in a neighborhood that didn't have college degrees? Sure, in college.  Same for the long haul bus. 

Did I ever work on the factory floor? Yeah, as a young engineer during a strike, I was required to scab.  But it seems irrelevant to whether I live in a bubble.  These days I am regularly at construction sites and I don't see a huge difference from the factory floor. 

  

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Posted
14 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Gar have different behavior. They tend to float along at the surface or hang out around or near deeper water or under vegetation.  They don’t like to hide under logs and riverbank burrows like catfish. I don’t think there’s ever been a case of a gar biting a human that wasn’t trying to handle it somehow. 

Guess you've never been skinny dipping in Lake Travis.

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Posted
31 minutes ago, The Dog said:

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"...let the cattle markets work without interference" = maintain the protectionist trade policy at the cost of the consumer while the taxpayers foot the bill for facilities that help our profits

Fuck these welfare queens. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Yeah. Trump destroying people's lives getting them to see the light just...isn't going to happen. It didn't happen the last time and it wont happen this time. This is all cope.

The polls have barely moved for months. Nothing matters.

The GOP will get away with everything so long as 45% or so of the country goes along with it. And I am not sure what exactly Trump would have to do at this point to get those people to turn on him.

 

It's not really under his control, but a real crash of the stock market will turn things on him quick.

We've already seen that he has slowed and sedriously stunted our economy and that's done nothing to him, because most people don't get the economy. The bulk of the people see this:

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And think "The US economy is great!!! Hur Hur!!!"

Not realizing:
A. They are still paying out the nose for everything they NEED (food and essentials)
B. that our market is inflated by the Mag 10 
B.1. Our economy isn't really that great
C. These fools don't really own much stock!!!

With stock ripping, regardless of the economy, he can just about do what he wants. Take that away and he is going to have real rioting in the streets because people with have a visual indicator to go along with the pain we joke about in this thread.

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3 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

 

It's not really under his control, but a real crash of the stock market will turn things on him quick.

We've already seen that he has slowed and sedriously stunted our economy and that's done nothing to him, because most people don't get the economy. The bulk of the people see this:

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And think "The US economy is great!!! Hur Hur!!!"

Not realizing:
A. They are still paying out the nose for everything they NEED (food and essentials)
B. that our market is inflated by the Mag 10 
B.1. Our economy isn't really that great
C. These fools don't really own much stock!!!

With stock ripping, regardless of the economy, he can just about do what he wants. Take that away and he is going to have real rioting in the streets because people with have a visual indicator to go along with the pain we joke about in this thread.

C concerns me. It makes me think the stock market could crash and these people still wouldn't give a fuck. 

I guess they'll give somewhat of a fuck when shit gets even more expensive. I guess...

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40 minutes ago, The Dog said:

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You keep sucking that dick, bitches. "Please don't do this, please, we'll still swallow it all, just don't do this. But whatever you want, whatever hole, maybe look at some screwworm?"

You know, ironically, after screwworm devastates our herd here in a month or two, we're probably going to actually need that beef from Argentina. Almost everyone will forget who allowed screwworm into the US, and praise Trump for his foresight and securing beef from Argentina. Calling my shot. 

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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

C concerns me. It makes me think the stock market could crash and these people still wouldn't give a fuck. 

I guess they'll give somewhat of a fuck when shit gets even more expensive. I guess...

Yeah....it ain't the "my stocks lost value" that will hurt.  It's the contagion across the board and at every level that will follow from the US economy losing trillions in value in a very short period of time.  The collapse in the value of assets/things that support and/or secure massive chains of debt leads to the collapse of a metric shitton of debt, which is foundational to our economy.

I am not a major debt/deficit hawk, but it is ALWAYS something of a point of vulnerability.  It is much larger, and much more vulnerable, than it has been in a long time.  And some of the things that we've done to increase it (see Trump tax cuts) are doubly dangerous because those things (if we had them left in our toolbox....which we don't) would be useful/important in softening the blow of a crash.

We've consumed our seed stock.  There is no cushion or margin of error left.  Any material "crash" of any major economic indicator - especially including the stock market - will cause a brutal contagion that fucking crashes damned near everything.

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1 hour ago, The Dog said:

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No call to work on chronic wasting disease that is spreading among wild game?  I guess it’s eliminating their competition and surely won’t evolve and get into their stock herds. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

as to the factory floor question, I said "yes", but only because I took an organized tour of the Harley Davidson factory in York, PA when I was back there on a project.  Maybe that should have been a "no"? 

 

3 hours ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

Wasn't there a follow up question on that one asking if you worked on the factory floor? I said yes because I worked at a fireworks warehouse for a summer.

 

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Similar. I had a job as a lab analyst testing IV solutions, and occasionally that entailed going to the filling floor to test some oil free compressed air drops.  Doesn’t make me a factory worker. 

 

2 hours ago, GenXer said:

I go to the fulfillment center floor regularly. I gotta make sure the WMS, automated picking, conveyor system, and parcel services and integrations haven’t crapped out in the last five minutes.

I scored a 37.

 

The factory floor question was 

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In a way this question is indicative of the problem with the whole idea of the bubble.

I don't need to experience busting my ass day to day to understand that is backbreaking work. I might not be DIRECTLY in touch with that work, but I get it sucks and it is really hard. And I get the plight of the worker that does this.

And that's the bigger thing. I'm at least sympathetic to this. Unlike some people (private bone spur), that have never done a day of hard work in their life, him and his ilk don't give a shit about these people and wouldn't think twice stepping over them on the street.

My vacation home is in the sticks Vermont. It let me answer a lot of these questions yes (LOL). I was talking with our neighbor at the top of the hill (also a 2nd home for him) about the town about 10 miles over - tons of drugs. He talked about the people with more than a bit of disgust, while my wife and I had some sympathy for these people that industry has really left behind.

And that's the thing - sympathy for fellow man to me goes a long way. I might not be in tune with everything nuance of the way these  people live and work. But I want them to succeed and have the chance to get ahead. Am I so out of touch?

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11 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

I might not be in tune with everything nuance of the way these  people live and work. But I want them to succeed and have the chance to get ahead. Am I so out of touch?

Read the two sentences that precede your question.  If those are true, you are absolutely out of touch with 2025 America.  The motto of 2025 America is "FUCK YOU THE ONLY WAY I KNOW THAT ANYTHING IS WORKING IS IF IT HURTS SOMEONE ELSE."  Other people's pain and failure is the primary metric of your success.  So, literally the 180-degree opposite of "empathy."

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Sympathy often looks like condescension to the person getting the sympathy.

The critique of the Dems is not that they don't have sympathy.  It's that they can't relate.  

Those alleged crimes don't warrant the Dems having to have the Dotard as their President.  But they do help to explain some of the strategic and tactical missteps. 

[I had no idea people hated on transsexuals I was at a rehearsal dinner and there was one guy -- of all the guests -- who was obsessed with this issue.  Yep.  You guessed it.  That guy was a fisherman.] 

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Just now, SydneyCarton said:

C concerns me. It makes me think the stock market could crash and these people still wouldn't give a fuck. 

I guess they'll give somewhat of a fuck when shit gets even more expensive. I guess...

They'll give a fuck when they lose their jobs. Jack Welsh has to be listened to, even in death.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

They'll give a fuck when they lose their jobs. Jack Welsh has to be listened to, even in death.

Everyone will be out of work can join the military, expanding the federal government, and we'll probably invade Mexico or Canada. Problem solved. 

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

Read the two sentences that precede your question.  If those are true, you are absolutely out of touch with 2025 America.  The motto of 2025 America is "FUCK YOU THE ONLY WAY I KNOW THAT ANYTHING IS WORKING IS IF IT HURTS SOMEONE ELSE."  Other people's pain and failure is the primary metric of your success.  So, literally the 180-degree opposite of "empathy."

Like Jason Sudeikis said "I don't get why Ted Lasso is so popular. It's about two things Americans hate - Soccer and being nice."

Fair point. Though I will say because of my empathy, I do go out of my way to spend my money in these areas. Frequent the shops, spend in the towns when/where I can. I mean one reason I want to be in the sticks is because I like these out of the way places and I want them to thrive. I'm at least trying to do my part.

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Posted
16 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

Counterpoint—how dumb do you have to be to be a union rep and vote for turnip? 

As a union worker, I'll just say that I know a lot of dumb coworkers.

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48 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

My vacation home is in the sticks Vermont. It let me answer a lot of these questions yes (LOL). I was talking with our neighbor at the top of the hill (also a 2nd home for him) about the town about 10 miles over - tons of drugs. He talked about the people with more than a bit of disgust, while my wife and I had some sympathy for these people that industry has really left behind.

And that's the thing - sympathy for fellow man to me goes a long way. I might not be in tune with everything nuance of the way these  people live and work. But I want them to succeed and have the chance to get ahead. Am I so out of touch?

I get both instincts: sympathy and disgust.

I share your sympathy for them.  They were born in a shit town that was dying through no fault of their own.  hey don't have the education or skills to make the town attractive to any industry, and they don't have the wherewithal to attain the education necessary to be successful in the modern economy.  That shit's fucking hopeless.  And it's even more hopeless for them in a society that broadcasts to them the successes of people who had the good fortune of just being born a couple hundred miles away.

But I also share in the disgust.  The rural poor in America live in circumstances and with opportunities the rural poor across most of the rest of the world could only dream of.  Shit--the reason the rural poor have a feeling of having been left behind is that they have been left behind--literally--by anybody with the least little bit of intelligence and ambition, who left those shit towns ages ago to find better lives in Boston or New York or even fucking Providence.  And I can't feel much but disgust for someone who is prevented from improving his circumstances simply by relocating to a real city by nothing more than his own fear and inertia.

Before 2016, my sympathy outweighed the disgust.  But then they decided to declare war on the rest of the country.  So now, fuck them. 

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

I get both instincts: sympathy and disgust.

I share your sympathy for them.  They were born in a shit town that was dying through no fault of their own.  hey don't have the education or skills to make the town attractive to any industry, and they don't have the wherewithal to attain the education necessary to be successful in the modern economy.  That shit's fucking hopeless.  And it's even more hopeless for them in a society that broadcasts to them the successes of people who had the good fortune of just being born a couple hundred miles away.

But I also share in the disgust.  The rural poor in America live in circumstances and with opportunities the rural poor across most of the rest of the world could only dream of.  Shit--the reason the rural poor have a feeling of having been left behind is that they have been left behind--literally--by anybody with the least little bit of intelligence and ambition, who left those shit towns ages ago to find better lives in Boston or New York or even fucking Providence.  And I can't feel much but disgust for someone who is prevented from improving his circumstances simply by relocating to a real city by nothing more than his own fear and inertia.

Before 2016, my sympathy outweighed the disgust.  But then they decided to declare war on the rest of the country.  So now, fuck them. 

Yeah, I keep coming back to the fact that Biden really did believe in the political efficacy of materially investing in left behind areas and Dems did that under Biden. Most of the infrastructure and manufacturing investment was disproportionately targeted to exurban and rural areas.  Hell, deaths of despair in rural areas even began decreasing under Biden.  But rural folks if anything hated Dems and minorities even more by November 2024 than they did in November 2016. It's real hard to remain sympathetic. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Captain Ron said:

 

It's not really under his control, but a real crash of the stock market will turn things on him quick.

We've already seen that he has slowed and sedriously stunted our economy and that's done nothing to him, because most people don't get the economy. The bulk of the people see this:

image.png.879d9d2f5957aa0bcf28b8c621347b58.png

And think "The US economy is great!!! Hur Hur!!!"

Not realizing:
A. They are still paying out the nose for everything they NEED (food and essentials)
B. that our market is inflated by the Mag 10 
B.1. Our economy isn't really that great
C. These fools don't really own much stock!!!

With stock ripping, regardless of the economy, he can just about do what he wants. Take that away and he is going to have real rioting in the streets because people with have a visual indicator to go along with the pain we joke about in this thread.

I have had more than one asshole try to tell me their 401k was better under Trump than Biden.

When I point out that every major index was higher during Biden's term than during Trumps and finished at all time records, they're like, it just was.

Allergic.  To.  Facts.

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5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, I keep coming back to the fact that Biden really did believe in the political efficacy of materially investing in left behind areas and Dems did that under Biden. Most of the infrastructure and manufacturing investment was disproportionately targeted to exurban and rural areas.  Hell, deaths of despair in rural areas even began decreasing under Biden.  But rural folks if anything hated Dems and minorities even more by November 2024 than they did in November 2016. It's real hard to remain sympathetic. 

And it's not unique to the United States.  Go to rural (particularly Western) Canada.  Go to rural (particularly the Midlands) England.

Go to East Germany.

It's the same deal right across the developed (and developing) world.

If you lived in Chemnitz on October 2, 1990, and you had the least bit of education, ambition, and good sense, you moved.  Maybe you went to Berlin.  Maybe you went to Frankfurt.  Hell--maybe you went to Vienna or Brussels.  But whatever--you got the fuck out.  Chemnitz was an industrial city with non-competitive industries built by the Communists; it wasn't going to do well in a new capitalistic economy.  And anyone with half a brain could've figured that out.  

And they did.

So who's left?  The people with less than half a brain.  And their descendents.  Oh--and more than a few people who have fled places like Ukraine, Syria, and Afghanistan.  And boy do the less-than-half-brained natives hate them.  Because those are people with the smarts and drive to flee a bad situation.  But don't worry, dear Chemnitzian--they won't be there for long.  They'll move on, leaving you behind again and making Chemnitz even less dynamic and desirable.

But in the meantime, Chemnitz votes AfD.  In the same way that Leeds votes Reform.  And Kamloops votes Conservative.  And none of those are good for the democracies in those countries.

Somehow, we've got to deal with those left-behinds.  I mean, they disgust me, too.  They disgust me in the way the crazy fat homeless woman on Congress Ave. who half the time has her nasty-ass tit hanging out disgusts me.  She's super gross and I wish she didn't exist.  But if we don't deal with her in some way, she's going to break into the new Japanese deli there between 6th and 7th and destroy the joint.  And I like the Japanese deli.  So I guess we have to figure out some way to deal with her stupid ass before she destroys the things on Congress Ave. that we like.

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