Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted
14 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

For my company, we have forecasted $500M in increased costs due to tariffs. Our contracts and sourcing teams have been working 10-12 hour days for 2 months updating contracts and re-calculating costing and pricing models. Our suppliers regularly send us updating pricing. We are on version 20+ on many amendments. As soon as we model for new revisions, new versions comes in. This is for 100s of suppliers and their contracts. We are doing the same to our customers. 

This whole thing is beyond fucked. 

Our execs have no clue what the fuck any of this is about. We manufacture and own 70% of the market for our industry. We have not been contacted by anyone in this administration about anything manufacturing related. We manufacture both domestic and internationally. Our materials come from around the world. Our suppliers materials come from around the world. This is just fucking stupid.

 

7 minutes ago, royiv said:

Y’all should just source all of your materials and manufacture everything domestically. It’s a really simple solution. 

GamersNexus, a PC gaming channel of all places, just did some excellent journalism that gets to the nuts and bolts of all of this. It's a big ass 3 hour long video, but the first 5 minutes are basically the thesis and TLDR of the whole thing. The rest is just the interviews with logistics officers, CEO's, presidents, founders, and owners that open their books and share their actual real margins and rates to just underscore how not just the tariffs themselves but the instability is going to kill businesses and probably a few business owners too

They even touch on the unreality of "just built it 100% here in America", and multiple businesses explain why it's infeasible for multiple reasons.

 

  • Hook 'Em 3
Posted
2 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

I can't get too specific but for this one prodcut, we manufacture it in 3 places, 2 in the US and one in Mexico. I addressed this earlier in the thread. The labor rate for US is over 2x more expensive and the quality is worse than our Mexico plant. 

If we could we'd move all manufacturing of that product to Mexico but that creates other issues. 

Dipshits masturbate thinking we should be moving all manufacturing to the US. Dipshits do not realize they DO NOT want manufacturing moved back to the US. Doing that would be akin to the fake DEI shit that they abhor. 

adam_smith_revolutionary_1050x700.jpg

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
23 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

This is just fucking stupid.

Man.  It seems like you've gotten inside information on the new slogan we'll be putting on all our coinage.  "IN GOD WE TRUST" isn't just passe, it's off-brand.  Be on the lookout for new quarters emblazoned with "THIS IS JUST FUCKING STUPID."

  • Like 1
Posted
16 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

I can't get too specific but for this one prodcut, we manufacture it in 3 places, 2 in the US and one in Mexico. I addressed this earlier in the thread. The labor rate for US is over 2x more expensive and the quality is worse than our Mexico plant. 

If we could we'd move all manufacturing of that product to Mexico but that creates other issues. 

Dipshits masturbate thinking we should be moving all manufacturing to the US. Dipshits do not realize they DO NOT want manufacturing moved back to the US. Doing that would be akin to the fake DEI shit that they abhor. 

You sound like a RINO.  (Sarcasm)

I work in ag and 2026 pricing for inputs and equipment starts showing up in early July.  Many people are in complete denial on what’s coming.  Gonna be some existential crises this summer.

  • Like 1
  • Fuck Around and Find Out 2
Posted
1 minute ago, Parliament said:

Many people are in complete denial on what’s coming.  Gonna be some existential crises this summer.

Donald Glover Reaction GIF

  • Like 3
Posted (edited)

Also, like every company, we are trying to diversify our suppliers to migitate tariffs impacts. What this means is that we are moving and are looking to move from long established, high quality suppliers to smaller and upstart suppliers with suspect quality. We are having to start the long process of engineering and quality validation of new global suppliers (no we are not getting many new US suppliers probably because of the same reason we are looking elsewhere: cost and quality). Tons of people are working long hours trying to mitigate the impacts of this bullshit. We just know our costs are going to increase, by wide margin, and the quality is probably going to suffer for awhile. The losers will be mom and pop because the cost increases and shittier quality will all be felt in the products that they buy in stores.

Edited by crash_davis
  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted

#winning

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/thousands-us-layoffs-mack-truck-volvo-b2737683.html

Trump’s tariffs driving thousands of layoffs at US manufacturing plants

Donald Trump’s tariffs are already triggering thousands of layoffs in American manufacturing plants, mostly in the Midwest and the East.

Companies are ejecting workers in the wake of Trump’s purported plan to use the levies to bring manufacturing jobs back to the country.

The Volvo Group has announced it’s cutting 800 workers at its Volvo and Mack Truck plants in Pennsylvania, Virginia and Maryland.

“Heavy-duty truck orders continue to be negatively affected by market uncertainty about freight rates and demand, possible regulatory changes, and the impact of tariffs,” a Volvo Group spokesperson told Reuters.

Pennsylvania Democratic state lawmaker Josh Siegel told ABC27 that Trump’s tariffs have been a “devastating blow to Lehigh Valley workers” in a region where Mack remains one of the region’s largest employers.

Earlier this month Stellantis, which manufactures a variety of vehicles, announced it was laying off 900 employees at plants in Michigan and Indiana after the company paused production at some of its Canadian and Mexican assembly operations, according to a company memo obtained by CNN.

Steelmaker Cleveland-Cliffs laid off more than 1,200 workers in Michigan and Minnesota in March, and General Motors announced earlier this month it would temporarily lay off 200 workers at a plant in Detroit.

California Democratic Representative Ro Khanna claimed earlier this month that more than 4,100 factory workers had been laid off across the U.S. as Trump’s tariffs rattled markets.

Some analysts have estimated that ultimately some 177,000 jobs in the U.S. would be cut after Trump announced his first round of tariffs February. Goldman Sachs noted last week in a report that the president’s tariffs would likely create about 100,000 manufacturing jobs, while also killing up to 500,000 jobs across all industries.

  • Like 1
  • Fuck Around and Find Out 3
Posted
6 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

create about 100,000 manufacturing jobs, while also killing up to 500,000 jobs across all industries.

winning GIF

  • Hook 'Em 3
  • Like 1
Posted

There are simple solutions to the tariff issue. Just give up your sovereignty!


https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114415618596069518

Good luck to the Great people of Canada. Elect the man who has the strength and wisdom to cut your taxes in half, increase your military power, for free, to the highest level in the World, have your Car, Steel, Aluminum, Lumber, Energy, and all other businesses, QUADRUPLE in size, WITH ZERO TARIFFS OR TAXES, if Canada becomes the cherished 51st. State of the United States of America. No more artificially drawn line from many years ago. Look how beautiful this land mass would be. Free access with NO BORDER. ALL POSITIVES WITH NO NEGATIVES. IT WAS MEANT TO BE! America can no longer subsidize Canada with the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars a year that we have been spending in the past. It makes no sense unless Canada is a State!

Meanwhile, people in Puerto Rico

Stare Judging You GIF

  • Haha 3
Posted

Lulz:

Quote


White House blasts Amazon for 'hostile and political' tariff move

 

Amazon (AMZN) is denying reports that it will display the impact of tariffs next to the price of products on its e-commerce site that drew the ire of the Trump administration on Tuesday.

According to Washington Post reporter Jeff Stein, Amazon said it was never considering adding the additional cost caused by tariffs next to the price of goods on its main website, but rather was contemplating doing so on its low-cost Amazon Haul site.

Earlier on Tuesday, Punchbowl News reported that Amazon would show tariff-related price increases on goods. White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt called the move "a hostile and political act."

 

On Monday, Reuters reported that some Amazon merchants were planning to pare back their participation in the company's Prime Day event this summer due to tariff uncertainty.

"Why didn't Amazon do this when the Biden administration hiked inflation to the highest level in 40 years?" Leavitt said following the Punchbowl News report. "And I would also add that it's not a surprise because, as Reuters recently wrote, Amazon has partnered with a Chinese propaganda arm."

It's unclear which report Leavitt was referring to, but a 2021 report from Reuters said Amazon partnered with China's propaganda arm to sell some publications on its US site.

 

  • Fuck Around and Find Out 1
Posted
1 hour ago, Hook1997 said:

China deal made?  See what it looks like and if it ended up in our favor actually.  It would be kinda crazy if the bully tactic actually worked in our favor.  

I don’t know that it’s gonna matter.  People are very ready to have clarity, there will be an economic bounce even if things are a net negative as far as trade goes.

  • Hook 'Em 4
  • Rage+1 1
  • Fuck Around and Find Out 1
Posted
4 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

China deal made?  See what it looks like and if it ended up in our favor actually.  It would be kinda crazy if the bully tactic actually worked in our favor.  

But I thought that we were supposed to learn to live without cheap shit from China?

  • Like 2
Posted
14 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

China deal made?  See what it looks like and if it ended up in our favor actually.  It would be kinda crazy if the bully tactic actually worked in our favor.  

Spoiler alert: it didn’t work.  But it sure will be exciting for supply chain managers for another 90 days.

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
Spoiler alert: it didn’t work.  But it sure will be exciting for supply chain managers for another 90 days.

My BIL will have two or three containers shipped this week that his suppliers have been holding. I’m sure there are many others in the same situation.
  • Hook 'Em 2
Posted
2 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:


My BIL will have two or three containers shipped this week that his suppliers have been holding. I’m sure there are many others in the same situation.

I suspect ports will be a cluster fuck in a few weeks to catch up on TEUs that were held back.  On top of that, what do companies do with the 145 percent taxed shit that has arrived?  It is a nightmare to have these super volatile tax rates.

  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Like 1
Posted
30 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

I suspect ports will be a cluster fuck in a few weeks to catch up on TEUs that were held back.  On top of that, what do companies do with the 145 percent taxed shit that has arrived?  It is a nightmare to have these super volatile tax rates.

Well the good news is, not a lot of 145 percent stuff was ever shipped.  As alluded to above, much of it was held back.  But still some arrived and will have to be dealt with.

Ports will definitely be a mess for a while.  

 

Posted
I suspect ports will be a cluster fuck in a few weeks to catch up on TEUs that were held back.  On top of that, what do companies do with the 145 percent taxed shit that has arrived?  It is a nightmare to have these super volatile tax rates.

Some will eat the costs where they can and raise prices where they can. I imagine most only ordered critical items and have planned around it best they can.
  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
11 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

But I thought that we were supposed to learn to live without cheap shit from China?

So I can maybe break it to my daughters that they can have 30 dolls each for Christmas instead of just 2 each?

  • Haha 4
  • Fuck Around and Find Out 1
Posted

I haven't seen anything about rare earths. That's potentially more important to a lot of supply chains than tariffs, since the former can utterly shut down production, while prices can be raised to account for tariffs, though not ideal.

Anyone that is following this more closely than me see anything on rare earths? What a stupid own goal.

Posted

I have no idea how significant this may be, but the 20% disparity between our level of tariffs and china's level of tariffs is proportionally bigger at 30/10 than it is at 145/125.    I am sorta surprised that is not being used by the admin as evidence that "we won this negotiation."  That makes me think both parties realized de-escalation was needed quickly and that we are ready to mostly turn the page.  At least the news page.  There's no end zone dancing in the face of a vanquished opponent going on here regarding the tariff deal with China.  POTUS is just talking about tariffs on movies, cutting prescription drug prices and the release of Edan Alexander by Hamas.

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
6 hours ago, mdmost said:

So I can maybe break it to my daughters that they can have 30 dolls each for Christmas instead of just 2 each?

*Terms and conditions subject to change in 90 days. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Like 1
  • Haha 2
Posted
7 hours ago, Hefeweizen said:

I suspect ports will be a cluster fuck in a few weeks to catch up on TEUs that were held back.  On top of that, what do companies do with the 145 percent taxed shit that has arrived?  It is a nightmare to have these super volatile tax rates.

The Joker GIF by Legendary Entertainment

find someone to burn that shit and make it look like an accident, write it off/commit slight insurance fraud, reorder at new lower tariff rate... 

 

...that will be $9.95 please

  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Fuck Around and Find Out 1
Posted
15 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So the Chinese kids I’m paying $0.50 an hour, 18 hours a day, to farm stuff in World of Warcraft - surely I don’t have to pay tariffs on that shit since Trump is currently not aware of Azeroth?

I think you mean the Kingdom of Americoff, nerd.

  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Haha 1
Posted
On 5/11/2025 at 5:02 PM, Hook1997 said:

China deal made?  See what it looks like and if it ended up in our favor actually.  It would be kinda crazy if the bully tactic actually worked in our favor.  

In all fairness, that is exactly the Trump playbook as he has openly admitted to embracing. Thats the only play he knows. He did it with Ukraine/Ukraine and China.

 

  • Hook 'Em 3
Posted (edited)
On 5/12/2025 at 8:27 PM, BurntEyes said:

In all fairness, that is exactly the Trump playbook as he has openly admitted to embracing. Thats the only play he knows. He did it with Ukraine/Ukraine and China.

 

The thing is, very few if any of us will a) know the terms of this new deal and b) have the ability to evaluate it, either on its own or in comparison to the prior deal or status quo.

That means that Trump and his shills will tell us it's the most tremendous trade deal, like no one has ever seen.  And then trade experts will chime in and tell us that it's either bad or not a material change from the prior deal and Trump will label them RINO, or from the failing ________, or some other nonsense, and the base will lap it up.

Edited by TwiceHorn
  • Hook 'Em 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



×
×
  • Create New...