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Every brown person is going to be labeled part of Tren de Aragua, and ain't nobody can stop it

 

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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Every brown person is going to be labeled part of Tren de Aragua, and ain't nobody can stop it

 

Bingo.  "Illegal criminals" are entitled to no due process.  So all the gov't has to do is label...anyone they want to...as an "illegal criminal," and bingo, there's no way to even contest that finding because illegal criminals don't get due process.

We are such a fucking shithole country.

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Sergio's food truck serves the best breakfast tacos in Waco, in my opinion.  We've been going to him for years.

Sergio was recently detained.  He's been in the US and operating a business for 25 years. Waco is a little poorer today.

Fuck these assholes.

 

 

 

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On 4/2/2025 at 3:51 PM, Brisketexan said:

We are such a fucking shithole country

Thanks to shithole sucking voters.

 

On 4/2/2025 at 3:34 PM, Captainant said:

No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

welllll ackshually.....

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/the-austin-area-teen-trump-disappeared-to-el-salvador/

Terán, despite being in the country lawfully, is terrified that he and his wife and their toddler son could be next. They’ve talked about returning to Venezuela, where life is dangerous but not as fickle as it is in the U.S., once their visas expire. Terán dreams of Daniel being freed and meeting them there. “I’m thinking like a father,” he said, “which is that my son needs me. He needs me to be present and be supporting him.” He told his son, when Daniel was still in detention, that he would make sure his bike was waiting for him.

 

Just to make clear, the government claimed wearing a Chicago Cubs jersey was evidence of gang activity; evidence he was not allowed to challenge in court.

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We were planning a Mediterranean cruise this fall.  I pulled the plug today.  

1.  Was leary of the expense even before the tariff shenanigans. 

2.  Wasn't sure I wanted to be seen as an Ugly American over there right now.

3.  Even though I was born and raised in the U.S. by parents who were born here and both sets of grandparents were born here, I don't feel like finding out the hard way that Trump and his minions have fucked up even more and I get sent to Greenland as a conscript to help invade.   

Sure, that last ones a big stretch but who knows?

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On 4/1/2025 at 8:55 AM, fuggled said:

In case anyone missed it, in response to the Salvadoran man that ICE admits was deported by mistake, our VP chimed in with lies and deflection:

 

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-ice-error-man-deported-2053429

The guy was never charged with any crime, let alone convicted of being a gang member.  An immigration judge determined he would face threats from gangs if deported to El Salvador. 

Possibly well-known, but a lot of the Central American gangs ensnare kids very young as ostensible "members" by giving them candy and money and shit, and later in life, when they want out and don't want to do crimes, is when the treat of persecution arises.

So, it's theoretically possible to call someone a "member" of MS-13 or TdA, but they're no threat to anyone and never did any crimes.  Disingenuous, but possible.

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54 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

We were planning a Mediterranean cruise this fall.  I pulled the plug today.  

1.  Was leary of the expense even before the tariff shenanigans. 

2.  Wasn't sure I wanted to be seen as an Ugly American over there right now.

3.  Even though I was born and raised in the U.S. by parents who were born here and both sets of grandparents were born here, I don't feel like finding out the hard way that Trump and his minions have fucked up even more and I get sent to Greenland as a conscript to help invade.   

Sure, that last ones a big stretch but who knows?

Cancelled our month long trip to Spain and Portugal in the Fall for the same reason 

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The attorney who was arguing the government's case against Kilmar Abrego Garcia has been placed on indefinite leave for not lying to the court with greater enthusiasm.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-places-attorney-leave-after-struggling-maryland-migrant/story?id=120526466

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The Justice Department has placed on indefinite paid leave the attorney who argued on behalf of the government on Friday in a lawsuit brought by a Maryland man who was deported to El Salvador in error, sources familiar with the matter told ABC News.

Sources said Erez Reuveni, the acting deputy director for the Office of Immigration Litigation, was told by officials at the DOJ that he was being placed on leave over a "failure to zealously advocate" for the government's interests.

Here's an example of what might have gotten him in trouble:

 

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The showdown between trump and the judicial branch is set

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/shocks-the-conscience-judge-rips-trump-administration-for-grievous-error-in-deporting-father-with-protected-legal-status-doubles-down-on-order-to-return-him/

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis on Sunday issued a 22-page opinion saying she would not back off from forcing the Department of Homeland Security and DHS Secretary Kristi Noem to return Garcia, a protected citizen deported on March 15, to U.S. soil after ordering the government to do so Friday. The Justice Department filed an emergency motion to stay Xinis’ preliminary injunction on Saturday with the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals and lower court, “given the urgency of harms to the government,” the DOJ filings said. They called Xinis’ order “indefensible” and impossible to carry out on account of where he’s being held.

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“Surely, Defendants do not mean to suggest that they have wholesale erased the substantive and procedural protections of the INA (Immigration and Nationality Act) in one fell swoop by dropping those individuals in [the prion] without recourse,” Xinis wrote. “Instead, the record reflects that Defendants have ‘outsource[d] part of the [United States’] prison system. Thus, just as in any other contract facility, Defendants can and do maintain the power to secure and transport their detainees, Abrego Garcia included.”

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10 hours ago, fuggled said:

The attorney who was arguing the government's case against Kilmar Abrego Garcia has been placed on indefinite leave for not lying to the court with greater enthusiasm.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-places-attorney-leave-after-struggling-maryland-migrant/story?id=120526466

Here's an example of what might have gotten him in trouble:

 

For elucidation purposes, almost all injunctions order a (or all) defendant, and "those in active concert and participation with" the defendant, to do or not do ordered things.

It has been this way for 100 years or more.  The idea being to avoid disingenuous "it's beyond my control" arguments like this.

They put him there, they can damn well bring him back.

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Oh and a bunch the people sent to the El Salvadorian gulag to be tortured and worked in a labor camp (which is explicitly unconstitutional) didn't even have a goddamn criminal record.

 

The man pictured was deported for his tattoos that said "mom" and "dad"

 

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

For elucidation purposes, almost all injunctions order a (or all) defendant, and "those in active concert and participation with" the defendant, to do or not do ordered things.

It has been this way for 100 years or more.  The idea being to avoid disingenuous "it's beyond my control" arguments like this.

They put him there, they can damn well bring him back.

Look man, if I steal your car and drive it two states over and give it to Billy Bob Brubaker, I can’t really tell him it wasn’t my car to give and ask for it back.  

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29 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

Look man, if I steal your car and drive it two states over and give it to Billy Bob Brubaker, I can’t really tell him it wasn’t my car to give and ask for it back.  

Yeah those people are just chattel and property to be traded around anyways right? What a horrible analogy to use. 

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11 hours ago, Captainant said:

Yeah those people are just chattel and property to be traded around anyways right? What a horrible analogy to use. 

Actually, that's why it's the perfect analogy.  Cars don't have rights.  Brown people don't have rights.  That's the way it be in America, 2025.

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https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178258/gov.uscourts.ca4.178258.13.0_1.pdf

4th Circuit of Appeals denies the trumpco request for an immediate administrative stay, and affirms the order to return the plaintiff to the US by no later than 11:59 PM April 7, 2025.

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The United States Government has no legal authority to snatch a person who is lawfully present in the United States off the street and remove him from the country without due process. The Government’s contention otherwise, and its argument that the federal courts are powerless to intervene, are unconscionable

And the government rightfully concedes that it was an “error” and a “mistake” to ignore this process. Mot. for Stay at 16-17. And, if it is truly a mistake, one would also expect the government to do what it can to rectify it. Most of us attempt to undo, to the extent that we can, the mistakes that we have made. But, to the best of my knowledge, the government has not made the attempt here. The facts of this case thus present the potential for a disturbing loophole: namely that the government could whisk individuals to foreign prisons in violation of court orders and then contend, invoking its Article II powers, that it is no longer their custodian, and there is nothing that can be done. It takes no small amount of imagination to understand that this is a path of perfect lawlessness, one that courts cannot condone.

come get your flowers @futureman and @ChickenSandwich, yall were hella jazzed about all these Venezuelans getting blackbagged back in February.

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On 3/31/2025 at 11:34 PM, Brisketexan said:

If the Trump regime can disappear someone and not be subject to court enforcement because “oh well, we don’t have our hands on him anymore,” they can do and say that as to anyone and everyone. Including you.
This is how it goes, and this is how it ends. The Trump regime now has full power - with no accountability or consequences - to disappear US citizens, political opponents, or anyone it doesn’t like.

 

4 hours ago, Captainant said:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178258/gov.uscourts.ca4.178258.13.0_1.pdf

4th Circuit of Appeals denies the trumpco request for an immediate administrative stay, and affirms the order to return the plaintiff to the US by no later than 11:59 PM April 7, 2025.

And the government rightfully concedes that it was an “error” and a “mistake” to ignore this process. Mot. for Stay at 16-17. And, if it is truly a mistake, one would also expect the government to do what it can to rectify it. Most of us attempt to undo, to the extent that we can, the mistakes that we have made. But, to the best of my knowledge, the government has not made the attempt here. The facts of this case thus present the potential for a disturbing loophole: namely that the government could whisk individuals to foreign prisons in violation of court orders and then contend, invoking its Article II powers, that it is no longer their custodian, and there is nothing that can be done. It takes no small amount of imagination to understand that this is a path of perfect lawlessness, one that courts cannot condone.

come get your flowers @futureman and @ChickenSandwich, yall were hella jazzed about all these Venezuelans getting blackbagged back in February.

"It takes no small amount of imagination to understand that this is a path of perfect lawlessness, one that courts cannot condone."

Note also that Trump just the past day or so commented that it would be "great" if El Salvador would also take US citizens as prisoners.

This is how you "disappear" people.  Any person you want.  Without being answerable to the law in any way.  "Ooops, it was an error that we grabbed Steve Critic of the Regime off the street right outside his home and immediately put him on a plane to El Salvador, where his now held in prison.  No takesies-backsies, though!  So sad, too bad!"

And now the SCOTUS has signed on to support that approach (see Roberts staying the lower courts' orders, just now).

This is how authoritarian powers get full carte blanche to disappear people, with no legal remedy or consequence.  If you are a critic of the regime, you have one tool of defense against being disappeared.  Fortunately, this is America, so you can get that tool rather quickly and cheaply.  Do not count on a lawyer or court saving you.  We don't have those things anymore.  Just the thing you need to buy, and learn to use.

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s.ct. Just threw a pause on the above. But still they will give a more detailed decision In the next few days? Will we have a full blown constitutional crisis by the wknd?

 

edit: Brisket beat me to it

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4 minutes ago, achooloco said:

s.ct. Just threw a pause on the above. But still they will give a more detailed decision In the next few days? Will we have a full blown constitutional crisis by the wknd?

Dude.  That ship has SAILED.....struck an iceberg....split in two....and sunk to the fucking bottom.

There's no crisis.  A crisis implies that there's still a constitution.  There is not.

Tell me one thing you can do to insure that you don't get disappeared into a foreign prison by this regime?  I mean, one thing that does NOT involve you shooting your way out of an attempt to disappear you.  Because by my count, that's the only avenue left.

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Oh, and attorneys representing protesters and dissidents are getting hassled at customs now. This is tinpot dictator shit
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2025/04/07/lawyer-for-u-m-protester-held-at-airport-refused-to-give-feds-his-phone/82978891007/
According to Makled, here are the events that unfolded at Detroit Metro Airport after his family landed back home from a five-day stay in Punta Canta:
It was about 7 p.m. when the Delta flight landed back at Detroit Metro. Makled, his wife and two daughters exited the plane and made their way to the passport checkpoint for screening. Their photos were taken.
Mom and the kids got through with no problem. But when Makled's photo was taken, a notification popped up and Makled said he heard one agent ask another agent: "Hey, are the TTRT folks around?"
"I thought, 'What the hell is that?' So, I Google that quickly," Makled recalled of the acronym.
He quickly learned that TTRT stands for Tactical Terrorism Response Team.
Makled said his wife looked at him and asked what was going on, but he said he didn't know. As the border agents let his wife and kids go, they took Makled into a small interrogation room.
While in the interrogation room, Makled said, a man in plain clothes entered and began speaking to him. He said he recalls the man telling him: "We know you're a lawyer. We know you take on big cases."
Makled said he responded: "I said, 'I’m not a famous lawyer. Let’s get to the bottom. What's the issue here?' "
According to Makled, there were two men in the room with him. One told him it's a federal crime to lie to a federal agent.
"I'm aware of that," Makled said. "But you're not identifying yourself."
One agent handed him a pamphlet about confiscating phones at the border. Makled, who is familiar with the law, said he was well aware that the government can confiscate one's phone for a period of time and then give it back. But he said he told the agents he wasn't going to let them have his phone because it contained privileged information with all of his clients.
So, he said, the agents asked for a list of texts that he believed to be privileged. Makled said he told them that that was impossible given his thousands of texts.
So they kept pushing.
"I said, 'Listen, why don’t you ask me what you want. What is it that you’re looking for, and I’ll decide if I’m going to give you the answer.' "
"He said, 'Nope. It doesn't work like that ... we want your contact list,' " Makled said he was told.
Makled agreed to let them see his contact list. The agents asked who various people were, though Makled said he only told them that they are his clients, nothing more.
The meeting ended with the agents writing up a report and releasing Makled without incident.
Before Makled left the room, he said he asked the agents whether this was going to be routine in the future — him getting stopped at airports and questioned.
The agent told him he didn't have an answer, but said he would write up a report and that "as a result, you should be fine," Makled said he was told.
Makled said he then left the room and soon reunited with his family.
So be aware, surlyites. ICE and CBP are looking for fuckin any reason to stop and interrogate anyone.

Duh. We have a Stasi now, the Regime can disappear anyone it wants. It’s just a matter of time before it happens to someone here or a family member.
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Crazy. ICE agents are unilaterally deciding who is and isn't a gang member, without any due process 

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/08/immigration-ice-gangs-deport-decisions

Immigration agents are the "principal" deciders on whether a detainee is linked to a gang and should be deported immediately, border czar Tom Homan told Axios in an exclusive interview.

  • If agents determine the answer is yes, Homan said, the Trump administration believes that detainee's rights to due process are limited.
  • Not so fast, the Supreme Court said late Monday. The court signaled that detainees designated as "enemies" of the U.S. could be deported, but should have some way to challenge their removal.
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1 hour ago, Captainant said:
  • Not so fast, the Supreme Court said late Monday. The court signaled that detainees designated as "enemies" of the U.S. could be deported, but should have some way to challenge their removal.

That's big of them. I was fully prepared for them to say, "Everyone should have the opportunity to challenge their removal, but the courts have no ability to contest the 'no backsies' clause of the Trump administration's agreements with foreign governments, so, sorry, the best we can do is send a 'I was wrongfully deported" t-shirt to CECOT memorializing your big win in the U.S. courts."

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Should focus on deporting the people that don't return their shopping cart to the stalls at HEB, without regard their immigration/naturalization/birth status. Put them in Gitmo or El Salvador. I care not which. 

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6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Should focus on deporting the people that don't return their shopping cart to the stalls at HEB, without regard their immigration/naturalization/birth status. Put them in Gitmo or El Salvador. I care not which. 

Nbc Noice GIF by Law & Order

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Six-minute interview with the attorney who represents protesters and was detained coming back to the States at the airport where they insisted on searching his phone:
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/09/nx-s1-5357455/attorney-detained-by-immigration-authorities

It sure is comforting to know we commingle daily with tacit fascists, who are too cowardly to even speak out on an anonymous message board, and outright Nazi wannabes who have a hard-on for this kind of shit.

 

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11 hours ago, Captainant said:

90% of deported people had no criminal record.

Where'd you go @ChickenSandwich and @futureman and @52-80? I thought yall were enjoying lack of due process. How bout you @DaggerHorns? You've disappeared now that there's more hard evidence of the shit you denied was happening 

Maybe I've missed it, but this sounds almost like the exact formerly hypothetical tyrannical government oppression gun rights groups cited as the basis for their need to bear arms.

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Some quotes from administration officials speaking at a “Border Security Expo” in Phoenix attended by companies looking to profit off the mass deportations. These people see deportees as a profit center and Amazon packages.

ICE director envisions Amazon-like mass deportation system: 'Prime, but with human beings'

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“We need to get better at treating this like a business,” Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons said, explaining he wants to see a deportation process “like (Amazon) Prime, but with human beings.”

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“We need to buy more beds, we need more airplane flights and I know a lot of you are here for that reason,” Homan told the crowd in his keynote speech, which kicked off the expo.

“Let the badge and guns do the badge and gun stuff, everything else, let’s contract out,” he said.

 

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15 minutes ago, royiv said:

Some quotes from administration officials speaking at a “Border Security Expo” in Phoenix attended by companies looking to profit off the mass deportations. These people see deportees as a profit center and Amazon packages.

ICE director envisions Amazon-like mass deportation system: 'Prime, but with human beings'

 

So instead of having a number tattooed on their forearm, they’ll get a bar code or a QR code.

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6 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

So instead of having a number tattooed on their forearm, they’ll get a bar code or a QR code.

And, in an ironic turn of events, a “Made in China” sticker.

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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/federal-employees-denied-entry-to-two-lausd-schools/3675573/

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Russell Elementary was visited by four individuals who identified themselves as Homeland Security agents asking specific questions about four students, he said. The students range in age from first to sixth grade.

"What interest should Homeland Security have in a first-grader?" Carvalho said. "Two hours later, the same type of event took place at Lillian Elementary School."

Three individuals, who also identified themselves as Homeland Security, asked questions about a sixth-grade student at the school, the superintendent said

 

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https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-upholds-order-facilitate-return-deportee-sent-el-salvador-error-2025-04-10/

WASHINGTON, April 10 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court directed President Donald Trump's administration on Thursday to facilitate the return to the United States of a Salvadoran man who the government has acknowledged was deported in error to El Salvador.

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The court, in an unsigned decision, said that the judge's order "properly requires the government to 'facilitate' Abrego Garcia's release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador."

The administration, meanwhile, "should be prepared to share what it can concerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further steps," the court directed.

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