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quadruple dog dared

orange man tarmac impromptu presser just now on cnn asked "are you still going to phase out fema?"

dotard: "they're working right now so we can talk about that later"

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1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

quadruple dog dared

orange man tarmac impromptu presser just now on cnn asked "are you still going to phase out fema?"

dotard: "they're working right now so we can talk about that later"

a fake news reporter making things political

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43 minutes ago, bluto said:

Raining in the hill country again causing search teams to evacuate,… why don’t they just pray more and then everybody shoot at the rain clouds to kill em off?

Landon Donovan Soccer GIF

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asked about noaa cuts affecting the disaster starts shaking his head no then the tariff guy jumps in and said no then dotard says no the cuts had no effect it was biden but no he won't blame biden either it was a 100-year event

he's coming to texas on friday

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1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

asked about noaa cuts affecting the disaster starts shaking his head no then the tariff guy jumps in and said no then dotard says no the cuts had no effect it was biden but no he won't blame biden either it was a 100-year event

he's coming to texas on friday

squeezing it in before Butlerpalooza?

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Could someone also remind me how many billions of dollars Texas taxpayers are on the hook for to bail out energy companies in the wake of the 2021 winter storm? Perhaps a little bit of that money would've been useful for disaster prevention, which I hear is prohibitively expensive. Although obviously, a lower bailout would affect the energy industry's profits.

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9 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

This is the sort of bullshit that "now is not the time" should apply to, not the dialogue surrounding safety infrastructure and the politicians who defund it.

Exactly 

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You know, the billions of dollars Abbott & Co wasted on a few miles of border fence in the middle of nowhere that will have zero impact on immigration sure seems like it might have come in useful to help guard against an event like this.

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This orange dipshit blame Biden for this? 
You're surprised? Really?!?

In 2017 he said our military didn’t have any bullets because Obama & Biden didn't appropriate funds for ammunition.

There's nothing he won't blame on someone else.
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56 minutes ago, Bookman said:

See, a basic tenet of Christianity is we all deserve to die because of Adam and Eve. 

Well,..I'm goin' out happy

 

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1 minute ago, troph said:

BL just made it clear the news of failed leadership belongs in CR only. Fuck me I’m so fucking sick and tired of this. NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

too soon.

this shouldn’t be political.

lets focus on the rescue. 

thoughts and prayers.

This couldn’t be anticipated.

We get to hear this nonsense and when we call out the lies, the failures, it’s not news.

Fuck all of this. EVERYONE should be forced to see the facts. I can’t even. 

You left out “It could’ve been worse”

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2 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

You're surprised? Really?!?

In 2017 he said our military didn’t have any bullets because Obama & Biden didn't appropriate funds for ammunition.

There's nothing he won't blame on someone else.

Not surprised at all asking only to be sure I heard that correctly. 

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5 minutes ago, troph said:

BL just made it clear the news of failed leadership belongs in CR only. Fuck me I’m so fucking sick and tired of this. NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

too soon.

this shouldn’t be political.

lets focus on the rescue. 

thoughts and prayers.

This couldn’t be anticipated.

We get to hear this nonsense and when we call out the lies, the failures, it’s not news.

Fuck all of this. EVERYONE should be forced to see the facts. I can’t even. 

I wouldn't care so much if they muzzled the right wingers in the DT every now and then. They seem to get to mouth off all they want. 

 

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2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

The people who need to hear it most are the ones who consistently tune it out

They are enabled in tuning out by many.

Just now, David Dennison said:

I wouldn't care so much if they muzzled the right wingers in the DT every now and then. They seem to get to mouth off all they want. 

 

Design not bug.

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15 hours ago, royiv said:

What possesses you to start posting your bullshit again when you haven’t posted in six months?

Well let’s see…an unimaginable tragedy strikes here affecting many posters on a personal level. 
 

Time to login and spike the football. 

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I’m going to abide by the request because ranting about failed leadership is both news and reaction to it so if real time updates are wanted fine that’s a fair ask for right now, but when the news comes out later about the complete failure - after search and rescue is over -and legit journalists report these failures I may go down swinging that it’s pure news not politics. People need to be forced to see this. 

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2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Well let’s see an unimaginable tragedy strikes here affecting many posters on a personal level. 
 

Time to login and spike the football. 

Seizing the opportunity to discuss policy solutions during the tiny window of time when people actually feel like thinking about the issue is not "spiking the football" but I understand why some people can't tell the difference between being criticized and being confronted with undeniable facts about the consequences of the ineffective policy solutions they have supported.

Trust me. Nobody takes any pleasure in this. We're seizing this opportunity because we hope these discussions lead to changes that will lower future death tolls.

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5 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Well let’s see an unimaginable tragedy strikes here affecting many posters on a personal level. 
 

Time to login and spike the football. 

That stupid fucking potato probably needs to beg for money again, but felt it would be gauche to make that his first post back.

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3 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m going to abide by the request because ranting about failed leadership is both news and reaction to it so if real time updates are wanted fine that’s a fair ask for right now, but when the news comes out later about the complete failure - after search and rescue is over -and legit journalists report these failures I may go down swinging that it’s pure news not politics. People need to be forced to see this. 

The right has convinced way too many people in this country that the truth is political.

 

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5 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Seizing the opportunity to discuss policy solutions during the tiny window of time when people actually feel like thinking about the issue is not "spiking the football" but I understand why some people can't tell the difference between being criticized and being confronted with undeniable facts about the consequences of the ineffective policy solutions they have supported.

Trust me. Nobody takes any pleasure in this. We're seizing this opportunity because we hope these discussions lead to changes that will lower future death tolls.

I was commenting on workswithseed’s surprising return the website. I have no problem with the dialogue in this thread. 

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Just now, DDD Dad said:

I was commenting on workswithseed’s surprising return the website. I have no problem with the dialogue in this thread. 

oh i know, but lurkers might have trouble keeping up and i want as much daylight between the posters who seek accountability and assholes who only want to crow

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

oh i know, but lurkers might have trouble keeping up and i want as much daylight between the posters who seek accountability and assholes who only want to crow

For all I know the camp has liberal owners I don’t care. Accountability should know no party affiliation. 

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20 hours ago, CycleTex87 said:

I’m a lifelong Republican and Presbyterian.  Been to MoRanch (PCUSA property) on FM 1340 west of Hunt umpteen times.  The failures of Greg “It could have been worse” Abbott  and the rest of the state level Republicans, including dipshits Dan Patrick and Ken Paxton makes me fucking furious.  Maybe this is the catalyst to change these fucksticks out. 

They voted for more of the same at a higher rate after Uvalde. If that didn’t change minds, nothing will. This stupid state is a lost cause and is only getting worse with time. 

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Yup, you can see the usual idiots crying in the DT because they don't want to read about the consequences of their vote.

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21 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m going to abide by the request because ranting about failed leadership is both news and reaction to it so if real time updates are wanted fine that’s a fair ask for right now, but when the news comes out later about the complete failure - after search and rescue is over -and legit journalists report these failures I may go down swinging that it’s pure news not politics. People need to be forced to see this. 

Preach, girlfriend. 

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31 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I wouldn't care so much if they muzzled the right wingers in the DT every now and then. They seem to get to mouth off all they want. 

 

DT mods suck ass. 

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4 hours ago, David Dennison said:

 I just never remember hearing it described as such growing up, that's all. But we're talking 40 years ago.

Yeah same and I knew a lot of Mystic campers, a guy who worked there summers in HS, and some family friends were close to what apparently were the earlier generations of camp ownership.

The whole Christian thing, besides a kind of nominal thing, seems to be a latter-day development.  Which pretty much makes sense.

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Speaking of several 100 year floods in the last decade I am on my 14th 100 year drunk of the year and my wife should chill out. Nothing we can do about it. 

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2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah same and I knew a lot of Mystic campers, a guy who worked there summers in HS, and some family friends were close to what apparently were the earlier generations of camp ownership.

The whole Christian thing, besides a kind of nominal thing, seems to be a latter-day development.  Which pretty much makes sense.

That Texas Monthly story (which goes in depth into those figures and ends with a bitter intra-family lawsuit over a financial mess) paints a picture of an extremely exclusive place for the Country Club crowd, and the article does indicate that the "in your face" Bible programming was put there by the new management.

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Lost track but someone ask how much time… I cross checked … 1:14am NWS flash flood warning, a dad went to the camp to search for his daughter - there’s a fb post on DT - he shares he was talking with his daughter approx 4am when the phone went dead and the assumption is that’s when they were swept away. As many have suggested there were several hours between the NWS flash flood warning and the time the camp was hit. 

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

That Texas Monthly story (which goes in depth into those figures and ends with a bitter intra-family lawsuit over a financial mess) paints a picture of an extremely exclusive place for the Country Club crowd, and the article does indicate that the "in your face" Bible programming was put there by the new management.

Well, it does say 76, which was pretty prime time for my cohort, even a tad early.  But I suspect it got more "strenuous" as time passed.

And, it wasn't really exclusive in terms of being extraordinarily expensive or hard to get into until fairly recently (there seems to have been a camp explosion as Longhorn has added still a third camp).

In fact, Waldemar was considered the fancy-pants girls camp probably for most of their co-existence.

But, it's like everything else in wealth-inequality asset-explosion land, it has become more exclusive over time.

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10 minutes ago, troph said:

Lost track but someone ask how much time… I cross checked … 1:14am NWS flash flood warning, a dad went to the camp to search for his daughter - there’s a fb post on DT - he shares he was talking with his daughter approx 4am when the phone went dead and the assumption is that’s when they were swept away. As many have suggested there were several hours between the NWS flash flood warning and the time the camp was hit. 

If that’s the post I watched the daughter was 21 and staying in a friend’s dad’s cabin by the river, not at Camp Mystic. Not sure it changes the point you were trying to make though. 

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11 minutes ago, Clintonaldo said:

Speaking of several 100 year floods in the last decade I am on my 14th 100 year drunk of the year and my wife should chill out. Nothing we can do about it. 

No early warning system?

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12 minutes ago, Clintonaldo said:

Speaking of several 100 year floods in the last decade I am on my 14th 100 year drunk of the year and my wife should chill out. Nothing we can do about it. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Clintonaldo said:


That’s woke

Everybody need to be woke at 1am when a flood is coming. 

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8 hours ago, Woland said:

I’m trying not to assign blame, but I think we can look at three points in time and draw a solid conclusion.

Point 1: 1900 Galveston Hurricane
Poor 2: 2025 Hill Country Floods
Point 3: The future, when science and modern communication technology provide ample warning and there is no loss of life.

My conclusion? Unless things change soon, we will be moving from Point 2 backwards to Point 1 rather than forward to Point 3.

But isn't that part of the Great we are in such a hurry to recapture?  

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I'm still on this bandwagon.  While NWS is at fault, they don't have near the responsiblity in all this that the county does.  I am betting there will be lawsuits that flesh that out.  Unfortunately so many of these officials are protected from personal loss due to tort reform, leaving them with something akin to qualified immunity.  While it was put into place to protect sincere good samaritans, it's been bastardized to protect those who make shitty decisions about service to people based on re-election bids. 

I live in a community that used to have a wide variety of amenities and services.  Over the past two decades I have watched the bulk of those disappear.  The move was to first underfund the amenities and let them fall into such disrepair people could not use them.  Next obvious step was to do away with them all together, because no one is using them anymore, right?    And in doing so they could keep their maintenance fees low and everything went into the golf course and landing strip.    We have seen the same thing in our state govt.  And trump is doing the same with his dumbass DOGE stuff.  Musk is gone, but you don't see Trump scrambling to repair all the damage he did.  Nope. And too many sit there and cheer this on.   They have made the taxpayers of Kerrville or wherever seem like logical people when they refuse to pay for things of public safety.   

What they don't see is how many of their businesses rely on the tourist/camp visitors who will now be gunshy about coming to their county and choose to spend that money in a place that doesn't have such a deadly reputation.    

But in the end, those county commissioners are at fault here.  They should have done better.  

 

1 hour ago, wild_turkey said:

Could someone also remind me how many billions of dollars Texas taxpayers are on the hook for to bail out energy companies in the wake of the 2021 winter storm? Perhaps a little bit of that money would've been useful for disaster prevention, which I hear is prohibitively expensive. Although obviously, a lower bailout would affect the energy industry's profits.

It's part of your energy bill every month.  I know mine is at least $50 more every month than before.  

 

Something else I bet happens.  Trump miraculously finds some FEMA money for Texas, due to the fact that if Texas goes blue, so does the rest of the country, electorally.  No FEMA for this will be huge...and we haven't even gotten into hurricane season properly yet. 

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2 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

But isn't that part of the Great we are in such a hurry to recapture?  

I'm still on this bandwagon.  While NWS is at fault, they don't have near the responsiblity in all this that the county does.  I am betting there will be lawsuits that flesh that out.  Unfortunately so many of these officials are protected from personal loss due to tort reform, leaving them with something akin to qualified immunity.  While it was put into place to protect sincere good samaritans, it's been bastardized to protect those who make shitty decisions about service to people based on re-election bids. 

I live in a community that used to have a wide variety of amenities and services.  Over the past two decades I have watched the bulk of those disappear.  The move was to first underfund the amenities and let them fall into such disrepair people could not use them.  Next obvious step was to do away with them all together, because no one is using them anymore, right?    And in doing so they could keep their maintenance fees low and everything went into the golf course and landing strip.    We have seen the same thing in our state govt.  And trump is doing the same with his dumbass DOGE stuff.  Musk is gone, but you don't see Trump scrambling to repair all the damage he did.  Nope. And too many sit there and cheer this on.   They have made the taxpayers of Kerrville or wherever seem like logical people when they refuse to pay for things of public safety.   

What they don't see is how many of their businesses rely on the tourist/camp visitors who will now be gunshy about coming to their county and choose to spend that money in a place that doesn't have such a deadly reputation.    

But in the end, those county commissioners are at fault here.  They should have done better.  

 

It's part of your energy bill every month.  I know mine is at least $50 more every month than before.  

 

Something else I bet happens.  Trump miraculously finds some FEMA money for Texas, due to the fact that if Texas goes blue, so does the rest of the country, electorally.  No FEMA for this will be huge...and we haven't even gotten into hurricane season properly yet. 

I don't see NWS being at fault hardly at all, even with the cuts, they warned of "life-threatening flooding" about an hour before it took place.

Seems like everything downstream of NWS and local is at major fault for not seeing that NWS' message was distributed where it mattered and not reacting with sufficient urgency.

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