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16 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Sark even said something like, and I'm paraphrasing here, "We brought in Caldwell in case Manning sprains an ankle or something at OSU and we have someone with experience we can bring in." It wasn't 100% definitive, but pretty close.

And just reading between the lines, I don't think it will be too long before Lacey is ahead of Owens in the pecking order.

Yeah, I'm foreseeing a Maalik Murphy type transfer in the near future. 

I love the way Sarkisian has managed the QB room. It's never been handled better, frankly. 

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14 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Sark even said something like, and I'm paraphrasing here, "We brought in Caldwell in case Manning sprains an ankle or something at OSU and we have someone with experience we can bring in." It wasn't 100% definitive, but pretty close.

And just reading between the lines, I don't think it will be too long before Lacey is ahead of Owens in the pecking order.

This, but K.J. Lacey would benefit from an Arch Manning style developmental curve. Keeping Trey Owens through the end of 2026 would be ideal, but not sure it will happen. 

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2 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

I feel confident this Texas defensive front seven is going to prison rape the Ohio State offense.

I don’t know how often Baby Jesus weighs in on prison rape scenarios, particularly affirmative scenarios, but, please Baby Jesus, let this be correct. I want to stand nearly in low earth orbit near the top of that fucking horseshoe and watch those cocksuckers trudge their way out with many minutes left on the clock. I hope they are naughty in Your sight and shall snuff it. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

Everyone protected the football, except for one fumble that “got treated like a school ID.”

Wtf is this supposed to mean?

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2 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

I feel confident this Texas defensive front seven is going to prison rape the Ohio State offense. I don't know about the rest of the matchups, but entering the season that to me looks like by far the biggest mismatch heading into this game.

Some points to consider:

- The shuffling of offensive linemen two weeks before the game. I'm not saying Ohio State can't have a good OL by the end of the season, but it's obvious to me they don't have any easy solutions for their starting 5, much less consistent back ups. They brought in 3 portal OL this past offseason after relying on portal guys last year. That's a strategy of desperation forced on to them by inadequate high school recruiting and development. I watched Oregon get butt fucked early in the season along their OL, but by midseason they had turned things around and really had a decent squad there. Ohio State can do the same. But they need reps, they need stability, and they're not going to have it for the season opener.

- Brian Hartline is now their OC. I don't understand what Ryan Day's role is going to be there after handing over all the responsibilities to Chip Kelly last season. I assume it's going to be something. He's a control freak (all head coaches are to some degree) but he figured out if he hired his mentor in Chip Kelly he could relinquish duties. Well, Hartline doesn't have Kelly's gravitas. He's wholly dependent on Day for his career arc, having been brought to Ohio State at the same time. How they manage their responsibilities will be something of a work in progress. Cracks in communication and the blame game aren't stress tested in the offseason. They're stress tested when things don't go well in the game, and the head person doesn't want to blame himself for the failures. Which isn't specifically a Ryan Day thing. It's a human thing. There's going to be inconsistencies in the approach, and an inability to have a convicted response when things go poorly.

- New quarterback. They're saying it's a competition, but it's not. It's going to be Sayin. Day wants to keep Kienholz engaged and put a fire under Sayin's butt. Similar to how Sarkisian handled the Card/Ewers competition, when it was always going to be Ewers. It's a pretty common coaching tactic. I don't really care. I've seen both approaches work. I think people get too worked up about this stuff. But neither of them have experience under fire. That's going to effect how well the offense runs.

- untested running backs. I assume someone they have back there is going to be uber talented. We know about Peoples from his time in HS. They like Donaldson, too. But the pair they had last year were special. I don't know how these two are going to compare to what they lost, but going into the game I'm going to assume there's at least a short term step back.

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Compare this to the other side of the LOS.

- Everyone across the country keeps talking about the edge room across the country. I'm not going to go into detail with a Texas audience. You guys could teach me about our roster there. I'm just going to say this will be the best group of edge rushers Ohio State sees all season, including the post season. In their first game. This is not going to be pretty.

- One thing that is being underestimated is our DTs. Now, this could very well be koolaid talking. It's happened to me before. Maybe we see a huge dropoff in production here from last year. The thing is, I assumed we'd see a big dropoff last year. I looked for signs of it, and was constantly complaining that early opponents had success running inside in ways that wouldn't have been possible with Murphy and Sweat in there the year before. As if it's completely normal to feature the two best DTs in the country on the same team. But the truth is, last year's DTs, while not as good individually, were in some ways better as a collective. It took me at least until midseason to begrudgingly admit I was wrong about the position in the preseason.

Well, I like this group even better. Again, this could be the koolaid talking, but I think Breverd and Watson are going to be an outstanding pair of first guys in. I feel like they are going to absolutely rag doll the OSU interior OL. But then we're bringing in Shaw and January, and there's no real drop off. Kanu gets some snaps against his former team and quickly realizes he could be playing more if he had just stayed put. Sharma does Sharma things for a few snaps. Maybe Charles gets some time. The thing is, I feel like us hardcore Texas fans view the DT position as a source of strength heading into the year that NO ONE in the national media or on the Ohio State side is giving us credit for. I feel confident the DT play is going to be one of the biggest revelations coming out of this game.

- I don't know if it should be combined with the edge players or not, but our linebacking corps is stupendous, especially in terms of being heat seeking missiles. Ty'Anthony Smith's emergence is just icing on an already well made Charlie Strong style cake. Hill is receiving as much attention as almost any defender in the country, so we're not exactly flying under the radar at this position. I just think it adds to the DLs coming dominance.

- Kwiatkowski and the rest of the defensive staff. As opposed to Ohio State, there's a lot of continuity on the defensive side of the ball, especially in the front seven. Obviously we've seen a lot of changes in the back end, but I'm not talking about our secondary matchup here. I just think a lot of players know their roles. The ones learning their roles are doing so next to players who have been in the program, led by coaches who are convicted in what they're doing and know how to successfully convey assignments. Everyone understands their chain of command. When mistakes happen there's not going to be an overt or subconscious scapegoating as to who's fault it was. 

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I don't think any of this guarantees a Texas win. I like our chances heading into the game, but shit happens. Turnovers. Hostile crowd. Ohio State has amazing players. Ryan Day just won a national championship. 

But I feel confident if the Buckeyes come out on top, it's going to be because they were able to overcome a complete annihilation upfront on offense. 

Dammmit express, I haven’t finished your post from last week and this shit again. 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

There's just almost nothing I agree about in your post. In regards to Endries, ignoring the jinxing and superstition part, you don't like him because his first school was Cal? As if players aren't drafted from shit schools or even DII schools all the time? As if players don't get overlooked from recruiters in HS and turn into great players at the college level? Don't tell Aaron Rogers he's never going to be successful in the NFL because he went to Cal, bud. Or Tony Gonzalez. Or Marshawn Lynch. Or DeSean Jackson. 

I feel like you're just talking in bizarre circles regarding the DT situation. You think Collins and Broughton performed better because they were older, but they were ass literally the year before. If you want to make a case that an 18 year old isn't the same as a 22 year old, ok, but lets not fucking pretend that a 21 year old and a 22 year old are night and day, because they're not. And it completely negates your point of "Well they were developing the entire time in the background." Well, if that was true, why the fuck did they suck as 21 year olds and perform balls out as 22 year olds? Your stance makes zero sense. 

Your belief that they were "more talented" than the 3 senior transfers we got is based on...what? Sure, Collins was a 5 star. So was one of our transfers, Shaw. When older transfers come from other schools, they're just not that talented, but when they underperform at Texas under Bo Davis, they were just developing and waiting for the light to come on? That's horseshit. I'll tell you when the light came on, it's when Kenny Baker got here.

i did not say i did not like endries...you are inserting that sentiment. i said i am naturally skeptical of a player transferring from cal as it relates to my confidence in knowing what to expect. those are two very different things. great players can come from anywhere...the transfers i expect to kill it the most this year are from utsa and arkansas...two shit teams. i just said i am naturally skeptical and very much in wait and see what he does against ohio state's defense as opposed to relying on being honorable mention for his games against stanford and uc davis before i assume he will effectively replace the production from helm. remember, the part of my post above that you quoted regarding tight ends was in my "i have no fucking idea what is going to happen" part of my post...not my "i think we are going to suddenly suck shit because of this clown ass cal transfer" part. reaching back more than twenty years to jeff tedford's program does not translate to cal's players now. but, of course, it does not mean that he cannot be an impact player. we didn't think there was a reason that billingsley could not have been an impact player when he transferred either. ultimately, i don't have a reason to be confident that i know what to expect from the t.e.'s. hence my designation in my original post. in contrast, i am confident i know what to expect from spence. hopefully two years from now, i'm posting "how the ever loving fuck are we going to possibly replace the greatness that was jack mother fucking endries??!!"

my stance on collins and broughton makes plenty of sense when you realize that i disagree with the premise that they both "played like ass" in 23. i think you missed where i said:

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while i do believe he enhanced their performance last year through coaching, it is not a coincidence that they started to really have an impact in the rotation in 2023 (there is no disputing that both of them really started to flash at a much higher level in 23 than previously)

i think they both made big jumps from 22 to 23 and both were impactful guys...they were just backing up murphy and sweat. as a backup, collins had 7 fewer tackles on the season than murphy did...racked up a couple of sacks, and was an impact guy. just like sweat and murphy made a huge jump from 21 to 22 and then even more in 23, we saw a similar pattern from both of them...that's not a coincidence. collins and broughton were both 23 year olds last year and in their fifth year.  all of them have had the benefit of good coaching. as for talent, we will see what baker gets from them. shaw has a 55 career tackles in three years...merely double what collins had as a backup in 2023 alone...a season you have declared as him "sucking." kanu in two years of playing as a rs-fr and soph has 14 total tackles ever...substantially less than collins in his "playing like ass" year as a backup. brevard has had some nice stats and i am hopeful that, particularly with baker's coaching, he will contribute to a solid interior. but it remains the case that, along with cornerback, that the potential drop off at dt is my biggest concern. 

luckily, we don't have to agree...and we are both hoping for the same thing.

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1 hour ago, sith_horn said:

Helm was an OK, but not a great blocker. Sanders even less so. Helm had really good hands and decent athleticism for a TE and Sark was a master at scheming him open. I'm optimistic about Endries based on reports and his previous film as a pass catcher and getting open. Blocking is the question mark for him, IMO. It sounds as though Shannon can block and is a fairly reliable catcher, but not a plus athlete.

i agree but he (helm) was good enough to present a multiple look. personnel did not betray the play calling or scheme. hopefully endries, washington, townsend, whoever the fuck it is can achieve that. if we are throwing with endries and running with shannon, that's obviously a disadvantage.

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2 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Oh no... he praises several WRs but no mention of McJaggy ???

Say it ain't so... 😋

At this point he's keeping him hidden so he can surprise attack Ohio State

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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

"I'd prefer this weapon that wants to play, that doctors say is healthy to play, and that has looked great and taken tons of starter reps in practice sit until October because of arbitrary reasons I can't articulate."

Why not just sit him until after the OU game, Mack? 

If his body responds fine after a few days following Ohio State, why the fuck would you sit him for another 3-4 weeks? What the fuck is wrong with you people, is this just typical football board idiocy?

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A middling Sunbelt QB with a few weeks experience in Sark’s system is #2 on the depth chart and outplaying the other backups by a wide margin per $9.95ers. Not to be ‘that guy’ but that seems like the sort of off-season red flag we would be trolling aggy / OU mercilessly about.

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A middling Sunbelt QB with a few weeks experience in Sark’s system is #2 on the depth chart and outplaying the other backups by a wide margin per $9.95ers. Not to be ‘that guy’ but that seems like the sort of off-season red flag we would be trolling aggy / OU mercilessly about.

It really just means that Owens isn’t where we need him to be. It’s why they brought in Caldwell in the first place. Who btw also had an Auburn offer.

Would we really give that much of a shit about OU’s second and third team QBs?
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3 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

A middling Sunbelt QB with a few weeks experience in Sark’s system is #2 on the depth chart and outplaying the other backups by a wide margin per $9.95ers. Not to be ‘that guy’ but that seems like the sort of off-season red flag we would be trolling aggy / OU mercilessly about.

It’s the backup QB position. Ain’t nobody give a fuck. 

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11 minutes ago, sidis said:

i agree but he (helm) was good enough to present a multiple look. personnel did not betray the play calling or scheme. hopefully endries, washington, townsend, whoever the fuck it is can achieve that. if we are throwing with endries and running with shannon, that's obviously a disadvantage.

It was reported that Endries and Shannon were run in 12 personnel a fair amount this week. I'm far more concerned about the OL for game 1 than anything else, and secondly the CB's against Ohio State's WR corps. But the OL >> than the corners. With the next three games, our questionable units and players can iron out their wrinkles.

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2 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

It was reported that Endries and Shannon were run in 12 personnel a fair amount this week. I'm far more concerned about the OL for game 1 than anything else, and secondly the CB's against Ohio State's WR corps. But the OL >> than the corners. With the next three games, our questionable units and players can iron out their wrinkles.

100% agree across the board but i would say cb is 1a given smith.

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20 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s the backup QB position. Ain’t nobody give a fuck. 

Right, because we haven’t needed our backup QB at all these past 4 seasons. 

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48 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

This, but K.J. Lacey would benefit from an Arch Manning style developmental curve. Keeping Trey Owens through the end of 2026 would be ideal, but not sure it will happen. 

Arch was the backup QB his 2nd season

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24 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

A middling Sunbelt QB with a few weeks experience in Sark’s system is #2 on the depth chart and outplaying the other backups by a wide margin per $9.95ers. Not to be ‘that guy’ but that seems like the sort of off-season red flag we would be trolling aggy / OU mercilessly about.

If everything we are hearing is accurate then I have to agree. But remember that Sark likes to use the media to motivate guys. I don’t doubt that Owens is more talented than Caldwell, but he may lack maturity or ambition. Being QB2 at Texas, behind arch Manning, is a pretty sweet gig. I could see someone getting complacent. My hope is that Caldwell is just there to be the emergency QB and to light a fire under Owens.

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46 minutes ago, Katfid54 said:

Wtf is this supposed to mean?

Arch lost 2 of his school IDs in his first spring on campus. There was even a guy in the stands later that 2023 season that printed out a big canvas print of Arch's school ID

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1 minute ago, Red Five said:

• There still remains no sign of freshman DB Jonah Williams on the field for fall camp. We might not be there yet, but at some point the long-term health conversation may come in to play here.

God damn what kind of hamstring injury does he have? Is his leg in danger of falling off?

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1 minute ago, Red Five said:

God damn what kind of hamstring injury does he have? Is his leg in danger of falling off?

Probably keeps reaggrivating it while aggressively rehabbing to try to get a spot on the field this season. He'll probably be forced eventually, maybe even this winter, to choose one of baseball or football

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I don't understand how anyone can reasonably think it's going to be someone other than Caldwell that comes off the bench in Columbus if anything happens to Arch Manning. The hope for all of us, of course, is that nothing like that happens. I can't believe anyone with a decent cognitive function believes Trey Owens would be trotted out there instead.  

Have you seen Caldwell play in a real game?
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2 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:


Have you seen Caldwell play in a real game?

I know how someone like Sarkisian thinks. I know they brought him in late. I know he started out 4th team and is now getting the majority of 2nd team snaps. 

They're going to want someone in Columbus who has taken snaps at the college level before. I'm not saying Caldwell will be the 2nd string QB for the rest of the season. But for that game he absolutely will be. I do not have to break down Caldwell's entire game film to know that. You shouldn't have to, either. 

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2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Williams is still nursing the hamstring issues from almost 3 months ago that he played through at the end of the baseball season?

That isn’t great.

He was fine and then basically tore it in week 1. 

1 hour ago, CastHorn said:

I’d prefer Baxter be used sparingly until maybe October. Sounds like he wants to get after it immediately. Hopefully it works out for the best. 

 

1 hour ago, perfectchaos007 said:

He should play 100% against Ohio State, then take 3-4 weeks off to see how his body responds, and then get back at it against SEC competition. 

I thought these two posts were attempts at sarcasm or being funny or something. Nope. After reading them again and seeing other responses, I see that vaginas are in full bloom on this site right now. 

37 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

A middling Sunbelt QB with a few weeks experience in Sark’s system is #2 on the depth chart and outplaying the other backups by a wide margin per $9.95ers. Not to be ‘that guy’ but that seems like the sort of off-season red flag we would be trolling aggy / OU mercilessly about.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

9 minutes ago, Red Five said:

God damn what kind of hamstring injury does he have? Is his leg in danger of falling off?

I have removed all expectations I had for Williams as a UT football player. Everyone should. If he’s healthy and playing again down the line, amazing. 

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3 hours ago, Magus Ossis said:

Yes, arthroscopic-assisted ACLs are very different, as are rehab protocols now, than what was done a couple of generations ago. Technically, I would call the LCL (lateral collateral ligament) the anterior part of the PLC (postero-lateral corner, not to be confused with the PCL, posterior cruciate ligament). Depending on whether he avulsed (pulled off) or tore mid-substance on his LCL, he might have had different surgeries; with a high-level RB like him, my guess is that he had some graft sewn in there unless it was obviously strictly avulsed. I can't remember with certainty, but I think the early concern was that Baxter had torn PCL, too. Not tearing PCL and not tearing more of the posterior portions of the PLC (eg Popliteus) would take some of my concerns away regarding aggressive early motion in therapy and hence help him be better positioned for a potentially faster and more complete recovery. Once he is this far out, his recovery trajectory is more about how rapidly he can re-train and how well he re-adapts to full go.

You stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, didn't you?

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1 hour ago, sidis said:

i did not say i did not like endries...you are inserting that sentiment. i said i am naturally skeptical of a player transferring from cal as it relates to my confidence in knowing what to expect. those are two very different things. great players can come from anywhere...the transfers i expect to kill it the most this year are from utsa and arkansas...two shit teams. i just said i am naturally skeptical and very much in wait and see what he does against ohio state's defense as opposed to relying on being honorable mention for his games against stanford and uc davis before i assume he will effectively replace the production from helm. remember, the part of my post above that you quoted regarding tight ends was in my "i have no fucking idea what is going to happen" part of my post...not my "i think we are going to suddenly suck shit because of this clown ass cal transfer" part. reaching back more than twenty years to jeff tedford's program does not translate to cal's players now. but, of course, it does not mean that he cannot be an impact player. we didn't think there was a reason that billingsley could not have been an impact player when he transferred either. ultimately, i don't have a reason to be confident that i know what to expect from the t.e.'s. hence my designation in my original post. in contrast, i am confident i know what to expect from spence. hopefully two years from now, i'm posting "how the ever loving fuck are we going to possibly replace the greatness that was jack mother fucking endries??!!"

my stance on collins and broughton makes plenty of sense when you realize that i disagree with the premise that they both "played like ass" in 23. i think you missed where i said:

i think they both made big jumps from 22 to 23 and both were impactful guys...they were just backing up murphy and sweat. as a backup, collins had 7 fewer tackles on the season than murphy did...racked up a couple of sacks, and was an impact guy. just like sweat and murphy made a huge jump from 21 to 22 and then even more in 23, we saw a similar pattern from both of them...that's not a coincidence. collins and broughton were both 23 year olds last year and in their fifth year.  all of them have had the benefit of good coaching. as for talent, we will see what baker gets from them. shaw has a 55 career tackles in three years...merely double what collins had as a backup in 2023 alone...a season you have declared as him "sucking." kanu in two years of playing as a rs-fr and soph has 14 total tackles ever...substantially less than collins in his "playing like ass" year as a backup. brevard has had some nice stats and i am hopeful that, particularly with baker's coaching, he will contribute to a solid interior. but it remains the case that, along with cornerback, that the potential drop off at dt is my biggest concern. 

luckily, we don't have to agree...and we are both hoping for the same thing.

Sorry. You don’t dislike endries, you just refuse to project him and therefore you can’t predict anything from the Te group. Is that more accurate? What did you predict at TE last year after Sanders left, a plague of locusts? Endries had good numbers at Cal and the coaches seem to think highly of him. This isn’t the same as Sark taking Bama transfers early and often in his tenure.  
 

Vernon brought played in 14 games and had seven solo tackles in 2023. He was routinely abused in the running game when he was on the field in 2023. Any idea that you have that he “flashed” is made up, and basically invalidates there entire argument. There’s a reason your massive second paragraph doesn’t mention him at all and relies heavily on the work of Collins. And I don’t consider him having 22 tackles as a heavily rotated backup to sweat and Murphy as crushing it, but atleast we can agree he did flash at times, like against K state.

shaw had been underwhelming and injured his entire career, no doubt. But I’m betting in a contract year, finally being healthy, and a Kenny baker effect helping him. Which other than the injury thing, was the exact same thing we were praying about Collins last year as everyone was pissing their pants about  replacing sweat and Murphy. Kanu I expect to be Lole or Norton,  both guys who were great subs for us. 

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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I can replay that injury in my mind's eye to this day.  I was there, a few rows up in the end zone.  I was looking downfield, I'm guessing OU was on about their 40? and I saw him plant and then buckle.  It was bad right from the jump.

I was there as well. He was destroying us prior to the injury. I remember thinking fuck he’s going to win a heisman

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3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I have removed all expectations I had for Williams as a UT football player. Everyone should. If he’s healthy and playing again down the line, amazing. 

He's a five star and a true freshman. That's pretty dramatic.

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9 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

He's a five star and a true freshman. That's pretty dramatic.

He may have structural issues with his hamstring and that may force him to pick a sport even if he’s feeling 100% at some point. People worrying about him aren’t being dramatic. 

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54 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

I know how someone like Sarkisian thinks. I know they brought him in late. I know he started out 4th team and is now getting the majority of 2nd team snaps. 

They're going to want someone in Columbus who has taken snaps at the college level before. I'm not saying Caldwell will be the 2nd string QB for the rest of the season. But for that game he absolutely will be. I do not have to break down Caldwell's entire game film to know that. You shouldn't have to, either. 

I found the question odd because, yes, I have seen Caldwell play in a real game. I have not seen Owens or Lacey play in a real game. 

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16 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

He may have structural issues with his hamstring and that may force him to pick a sport even if he’s feeling 100% at some point. People worrying about him aren’t being dramatic. 

Ouch. 

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4 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Ouch. 

 

It may not be so bad. I set up a friend with a girlfriend of mine and he tore a hamstring having sex with her. He got over it pretty quickly and we were playing rec ball a few weeks later. Interestingly, he never had to choose between rec ball and her. Mainly, because she broke up with him, but that's another story. 

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A few more notes from 247

Spoiler

— Freshmen receivers are as good as advertised, especially Kaliq Lockett. Highlight play was a touchdown catch on 4th down from Arch Manning.

— Starting cornerback Manny Muhammadstood out, had more than one pass breakup on the afternoon.

— Defensive line tipped a lot of passes throughout the scrimmage

— Edge players are as advertised. One source said earlier this week that "Brad Spence is going to be a problem." 

— Energy was really positive. The first-team offense looks very tight knit as a group. Trevor Goosby is a vocal leader.

 

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On 8/11/2025 at 1:17 PM, SydneyCarton said:

I fucking wish people would stop trying to Texags or SEC Rant this place up by using weird misspellings instead of just saying fucking profanity. That's twice on this page alone. Jesus isn't going to send you to hell for cursing, you losers. If you jerkoffs weren't going to be scared off masturbating with the threat of hell why the fuck are you scared of saying "fuck" and "shit?"

Awww Sydney shut the Frick up... lol

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1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Hamstrings tend to linger until the player gets shutdown until it heals completely.

He wasn’t going to start and we don’t really need him, so just shut him down for a couple months and see if he can add a spark at the end of the year. 

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