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Definitely an aspect to unpack. Single precise shot out of the blue and then melting into the crowd is like something out of a Bourne movie or the The Jackal

Yea, thought I was reading too many books but nothing about this seems amateur

He fired a second shot he’d of been found

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5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Definitely an aspect to unpack. Single precise shot out of the blue and then melting into the crowd is like something out of a Bourne movie or the The Jackal

That’s how you know he was on the right.

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5 minutes ago, BrickTop said:


Yea, thought I was reading too many books but nothing about this seems amateur

He fired a second shot he’d of been found

Yes amateur was Butler, PA. Helped along by colossal SS failure as far as we know. This seems professional. 

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Is it feasible to think the shooter gets away with this? Everyone is running. It’s going to take time to figure out where the shooter fired the shot from? Odd that the person in black on the roof turned out to be nothing? Or do I have that wrong? I heard that on the radio on the way home. 

This is going to be the Boston bomber rumorville repeated.
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Helped along by colossal SS failure as far as we know. This seems professional. 

Even in butler that dude got off [emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]] shots I think before the counter sniper team got him, if they weren’t there it would of ended different, Kirk doesn’t get all those perks either, much softer target, orem is a city of [emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]k surrounded by some pretty rugged mountains, once that crowd realized what the noise was it would of made an escape very possible
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The concern is “why” on a lot of people’s minds but I doubt Charlie Kirk is the only target if this is not deeply personal and is a professional type thing. Kinda like the DC snipers were building up to something. Maybe I’m wrong but two people have been arrested/detained and nada and eye witnesses don’t have a good feel for the distance either. 

5 minutes ago, Nivek said:


This is going to be the Boston bomber rumorville repeated.

No doubt. But it should concern everyone this individual has not been apprehended and I hope will soon be. 

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9 minutes ago, Nivek said:


This is going to be the Boston bomber rumorville repeated.

No doubt. But its very concerning this individual has not yet been apprehended and I hope will soon be. 

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1 minute ago, ztejas said:

Um. Did this person not tell anyone or it was too late or what?

In a video I also just saw it sounded like two dudes who were high going “yeah man…uh yeah that’s uh…” 

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25 minutes ago, BrickTop said:


Yea, thought I was reading too many books but nothing about this seems amateur

He fired a second shot he’d of been found

Lot of people thought Luigi was an experienced hit man. 

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We will see how it plays out, he got caught pretty quick walking up and shooting someone in nyc is a bit different than a several hundred yard cold bore shot in Orem Utah, if he’s caught in the next [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]] hours I retract my statement

Never mind getting off Tapa now

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33 minutes ago, mdmost said:

It all depends on the CCTV and how good it is. Did it catch a license plate? Is it clear enough to get a good look at the person's face? Did anyone see anything before or after aside from grainy specs on videos? If the shooter said nothing to anyone before this, it's possible they are a ghost. 

Unless he sees a pretty lass, of course 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I'm not caught up on this thread (been busy today), but I'd like to state for the record that it's possible to think that a person is a complete cocksucking asshole, and still be saddened by their murder and feel bad for the wife and kids. 

It’s the day that forever changed their lives. IMG_8061.jpeg.624d4361876876cc649d3e5d700d4c4f.jpeg

Dez Bryant is saying it better than me. 
 

Carry on…

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Saw a video/theory Charlie was wearing a bullet proof vest. Bullet hits the vest and ricochets to the throat. I have no idea if that’s possible but it did look like he was wearing something bulky under his shirt.  
 

Did he normally wear a vest? I don’t pay much attention to him but I could understand why if he did have one on. 

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1 minute ago, RexWilson said:

Saw a video/theory Charlie was wearing a bullet proof vest. Bullet hits the vest and ricochets to the throat. I have no idea if that’s possible but it did look like he was wearing something bulky under his shirt.  
 

Did he normally wear a vest? I don’t pay much attention to him but I could understand why if he did have one on. 

If that’s true it might be interesting to know who would know if he typically wore one? That was an obvious kill shot. Seeing that close up video of the shooting was too much for me. Shouldn’t have clicked on it. 

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1 minute ago, RexWilson said:

Saw a video/theory Charlie was wearing a bullet proof vest. Bullet hits the vest and ricochets to the throat. I have no idea if that’s possible but it did look like he was wearing something bulky under his shirt.  

Bulletproof vests catch the bullet and dissipate the energy into layers of laminated kevlar, it makes no sense that it would ricochet like off a metal plate. If he were wearing an AR500 plate, maybe? But that would be pretty apparent 

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13 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

Saw a video/theory Charlie was wearing a bullet proof vest. Bullet hits the vest and ricochets to the throat.

This is not reality based. 

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Level 3 armor(rated to stop rifle rounds is pretty noticeable and heavy as hell, lower grade armor wouldn’t of touched it.

14 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

Saw a video/theory Charlie was wearing a bullet proof vest. Bullet hits the vest and ricochets to the throat. I have no idea if that’s possible but it did look like he was wearing something bulky under his shirt.  
 

Did he normally wear a vest? I don’t pay much attention to him but I could understand why if he did have one on. 

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13 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

Saw a video/theory Charlie was wearing a bullet proof vest. Bullet hits the vest and ricochets to the throat. I have no idea if that’s possible but it did look like he was wearing something bulky under his shirt.  
Did he normally wear a vest? I don’t pay much attention to him but I could understand why if he did have one on. 

10 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

If that’s true it might be interesting to know who would know if he typically wore one? That was an obvious kill shot. Seeing that close up video of the shooting was too much for me. Shouldn’t have clicked on it. 

That's not how those vests work, and if they were shooting center mass, any number of factors could have caused them to hit his neck.

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My son is a junior in HS. Just got home from band. He said they had big discussion in his 7th period. Kids mostly quiet. Talking about the importance of free speech and how wrong it is to harm someone because you don't like their beliefs. I was glad to hear it. Wasn't glad to hear there were kids watching the video so he had seen it. 

 

As far as Charlie Kirk’s reach goes, he said every kid knew his was whether they, or their parents, agreed with him. Get the feeling this will be one of those teen moments for him that we all have that we’ll never forget. 

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5 minutes ago, Laguna said:

My son is a junior in HS. Just got home from band. He said they had big discussion in his 7th period. Kids mostly quiet. Talking about the importance of free speech and how wrong it is to harm someone because you don't like their beliefs. I was glad to hear it. Wasn't glad to hear there were kids watching the video so he had seen it. 

 

As far as Charlie Kirk’s reach goes, he said every kid knew his was whether they, or their parents, agreed with him. Get the feeling this will be one of those teen moments for him that we all have that we’ll never forget. 

Mine was the Oj verdict. 

 

And for the record, not a lilly white school. Above average suburban high school. 

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43 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I'm not caught up on this thread (been busy today), but I'd like to state for the record that it's possible to think that a person is a complete cocksucking asshole, and still be saddened by their murder and feel bad for the wife and kids. 

I can feel sorry for the kids.  But for the adults, maybe don’t be complete cocksucking assholes who profit on promoting intolerance, hate, division and gun rights.  Live by the sword, die by the sword.  

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35 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I'm not caught up on this thread (been busy today), but I'd like to state for the record that it's possible to think that a person is a complete cocksucking asshole, and still be saddened by their murder and feel bad for the wife and kids. 

 I absolutely feel bad for the wife and kids. I am sick of the people (my 19 year-old cousin on FB) who didn't know who he was yesterday and who posted a video of themselves crying about this trying to make people feel bad for them (instead of the wife and kids), but that's for the stupid shit we see on FB thread (or the Anthony Jeselnik thread).

Given how well this was pulled off apparently, I won't be surprised if there are others.  They had the discipline to setup properly, take one shot, and then escape.  That really cannot be understated - this was somebody who rehearsed it/trained for it. If they had missed, I have no doubt they would not have taken a second shot.  How many of us have ever went to a range or wherever to do a little shooting, and hit exactly what we aimed at on the very first shot with no warmup? A very tiny target at that at that distance. I kind of suspect he was aiming center mass, but we'll never know. He was definitely patient and disciplined, from the closeup video I saw, he waited until Kirk had paused/was not moving around/or was squared up (prior to that, Kirk moved around a lot).

And I'm also wondering if what the cops recovered was meant to throw them off the trail.  I mean, I don't want to go down the Jason Bourne/Jackal trail, but....it seems like a lot of the shooters we have in the US have mental health issues that leave them lacking in discipline before and after shit goes down.  The nutcase that shot the two politicians in Minnesota, the cops fingered him almost right away as the main suspect because he had fucked up in a couple of different ways and put a "IT'S ME" sign on his back.  This guy does not fit that category at all. Shit was thought out well in advance.

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7 minutes ago, Laguna said:

Mine was the Oj verdict. 

And for the record, not a lilly white school. Above average suburban high school. 

Space Shuttle Challenger because I'm old.  OJ was something that fucked up the Rockets game my mom had recorded for me on VCR while I was in basic training. edit: We literally heard about the OJ chase the day after, because it was in the one newspaper we were allowed to read, and it was fucking wild as shit, I will admit.

My middle-schooler had no clue today and overheard my wife and I talking about it. Our neighbor's kids (freshman and junior in high school) said they talked about it a bit in class, but nobody really seemed to know him, or if they did, it was because of memes (and they apparently didn't even know his name, just the memes in the past).  But this is a small sample, and they are both jocks and tend to ignore a lot of stuff.

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4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 I absolutely feel bad for the wife and kids. I am sick of the people (my 19 year-old cousin on FB) who didn't know who he was yesterday and who posted a video of themselves crying about this trying to make people feel bad for them (instead of the wife and kids), but that's for the stupid shit we see on FB thread (or the Anthony Jeselnik thread).

Given how well this was pulled off apparently, I won't be surprised if there are others.  They had the discipline to setup properly, take one shot, and then escape.  That really cannot be understated - this was somebody who rehearsed it/trained for it. If they had missed, I have no doubt they would not have taken a second shot.  How many of us have ever went to a range or wherever to do a little shooting, and hit exactly what we aimed at on the very first shot with no warmup? A very tiny target at that at that distance. I kind of suspect he was aiming center mass, but we'll never know. He was definitely patient and disciplined, from the closeup video I saw, he waited until Kirk had paused/was not moving around/or was squared up (prior to that, Kirk moved around a lot).

And I'm also wondering if what the cops recovered was meant to throw them off the trail.  I mean, I don't want to go down the Jason Bourne/Jackal trail, but....it seems like a lot of the shooters we have in the US have mental health issues that leave them lacking in discipline before and after shit goes down.  The nutcase that shot the two politicians in Minnesota, the cops fingered him almost right away as the main suspect because he had fucked up in a couple of different ways and put a "IT'S ME" sign on his back.  This guy does not fit that category at all. Shit was thought out well in advance.

You have a 19 yo cousin that uses FB? That’s honestly a new one for me dude. You need to keep an eye on that kid, for fucks sake. 

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34 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

Saw a video/theory Charlie was wearing a bullet proof vest. Bullet hits the vest and ricochets to the throat. I have no idea if that’s possible but it did look like he was wearing something bulky under his shirt.  
 

Did he normally wear a vest? I don’t pay much attention to him but I could understand why if he did have one on. 

That doesn't even remotely make sense. It was pretty clear he got shot in the throat.

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2 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

I can feel sorry for the kids.  But for the adults, maybe don’t be complete cocksucking assholes who profit on promoting intolerance, hate, division and gun rights.  Live by the sword, die by the sword.  

I just don’t get this… what did you get from saying that? Dude had a young family that now is forever a click away from seeing their loved one gruesomely assassinated in front of the world. People in this world are way too fucking removed from reality these days. Regardless if you don’t like what he has to say… well too fucking bad. It’s his,yours, and my fundamental right to be able to peacefully discuss politics in this country. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

I just don’t get this… what did you get from saying that? Dude had a young family that now is forever a click away from seeing their loved one gruesomely assassinated in front of the world. People in this world are way too fucking removed from reality these days. Regardless if you don’t like what he has to say… well too fucking bad. It’s his,yours, and my fundamental right to be able to peacefully discuss politics in this country. 
 

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 "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

His words, not mine. You reap what you sow.  It’s in the fucking bible.  

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Just now, Vertuzzi said:

You have a 19 yo cousin that uses FB? That’s honestly a new one for me dude. You need to keep an eye on that kid, for fucks sake. 

The rurals in my family all use FB. I'm sure some use instagram/twitter, but the olds don't seem to be leaving (and twitter has enough porn to freak some of them out), so the young 'uns still use it to talk to family/

It's fascinating to see the conspiracy theories spreading on social media in real-time though.  People seem to be very against the idea it could be a lone wolf, even though I would argue that because he got away so cleanly, he probably was a lone wolf.

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