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Mike Johnson: “Democrats are so wrapped up in their Trump derangement syndrome that they are trying to use these videos of President Trump raping children as some kind of gotcha. Don’t fall for their childish antics.”

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I saw in the news this morning that since the Senate passed by unanimous consent, the bill goes directly to WH from House.  But Johnson still hasn’t transmitted it as of this morning and some talk about him and trump wanting “changes”.  Is this the next GOP fuckery?  Oh yea the bill passed both the House and Senate nearly unanimously but the constitution doesn’t say when the house leader has to send to president for final signature!!  Oh well I guess the SC will talk about it for 3 yrs then quietly drop the issue if bills actually have to be sent to the president if he doesn’t like it…

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5 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

I saw in the news this morning that since the Senate passed by unanimous consent, the bill goes directly to WH from House.  But Johnson still hasn’t transmitted it as of this morning and some talk about him and trump wanting “changes”.  Is this the next GOP fuckery?  Oh yea the bill passed both the House and Senate nearly unanimously but the constitution doesn’t say when the house leader has to send to president for final signature!!  Oh well I guess the SC will talk about it for 3 yrs then quietly drop the issue if bills actually have to be sent to the president if he doesn’t like it…

Johnson is not happy at all. He’s lost control, and Trump by proxy.  He was trying to blame Schumer, but he’s rattled it went straight to the floor and was voted on.

 

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it don’t matter.  he’s going to pocket veto it while DOJ asserts investigative privilege bc they don’t need a bill anyway   

this is theatre for midterms so GOP reps can tell voters they voted to release the files and protecting CSA victims  

eyes in front, fellas…eyes in front.  

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20 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

I saw in the news this morning that since the Senate passed by unanimous consent, the bill goes directly to WH from House.  But Johnson still hasn’t transmitted it as of this morning and some talk about him and trump wanting “changes”.  Is this the next GOP fuckery?  Oh yea the bill passed both the House and Senate nearly unanimously but the constitution doesn’t say when the house leader has to send to president for final signature!!  Oh well I guess the SC will talk about it for 3 yrs then quietly drop the issue if bills actually have to be sent to the president if he doesn’t like it…

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After the House passed the measure in a 427-1 vote on Tuesday, the Senate approved the bill unanimously before it could even be formally transmitted from the lower chamber. With the transmission of the bill Wednesday morning, the bill is formally considered passed, and now heads to the president's desk for his signature.

 

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13 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Massie can read names and the victims can name names.

The GOP has a problem that the DOJ can try and downplay, but not completely shut down.

Seems like the victims have always been able to name names. I think there are going to a lot of people disappointed about what is in, and more importantly, not in the files. 

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50 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

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wait - who was the 1 vote against in the house? Mike Johnson? What the fuck is that answer - he expected there to be amendments in the near unanimously passed bill in the fucking house? What kind of retard shit is that?

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Johnson is not happy at all. He’s lost control, and Trump by proxy.  He was trying to blame Schumer, but he’s rattled it went straight to the floor and was voted on.

 

He can't be that distraught, he still had his staff in a Montgomery Bus formation 

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1 hour ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

it don’t matter.  he’s going to pocket veto it while DOJ asserts investigative privilege bc they don’t need a bill anyway   

this is theatre for midterms so GOP reps can tell voters they voted to release the files and protecting CSA victims  

eyes in front, fellas…eyes in front.  

My first instinct was that Trump's 180 meant that the GOP had finished scrubbing the Epstein info in such a way that it wouldn't hurt any of them and it would hurt prominent Dems.  But you may be right that they don't intend to let any of it come out anyway.

Either way, or both, it is definitely all about optics ahead of the mid-terms.  It's also deflecting from their ongoing efforts to gerrymander the mid-terms.

And coming soon, war porn to rile up the base and some more bullshit positive economic news.

They're going to tell enough lies to get as close as they can to enough votes to retain Congress, then they're going to steal the rest.

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16 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

My first instinct was that Trump's 180 meant that the GOP had finished scrubbing the Epstein info in such a way that it wouldn't hurt any of them and it would hurt prominent Dems.  But you may be right that they don't intend to let any of it come out anyway.

Either way, or both, it is definitely all about optics ahead of the mid-terms.  It's also deflecting from their ongoing efforts to gerrymander the mid-terms.

And coming soon, war porn to rile up the base and some more bullshit positive economic news.

They're going to tell enough lies to get as close as they can to enough votes to retain Congress, then they're going to steal the rest.

I’m pretty sure the bill says to release all “non classified” portions of the file so they’ll just classify all the republican stuff.

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Johnson is not happy at all. He’s lost control, and Trump by proxy.  He was trying to blame Schumer, but he’s rattled it went straight to the floor and was voted on.

 

I had not realized that Mike had sold some of the GOP representatives who voted to release the files by telling them that the Senate would not pass that version of the bill, and would kick it back so they can delay and pass a bunch of amendments on the bill.

The reason he looks shaken is because he lied to a whole bunch of Republican house members about what would happen in the Senate.  Which makes you wonder what kind of communication he had with Thune - is Mike an idiot who didn’t bother to ask what was happening and/or assumed he could get the Senate to do his dirty work - or was he played by the Senate because everyone is tired of his incompetence as speaker of the house?  

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Johnson is not happy at all. He’s lost control, and Trump by proxy.  He was trying to blame Schumer, but he’s rattled it went straight to the floor and was voted on.

 

How many times does it need to be said that they are the fucking majority? Blaming the minority leader is such dishonest bullshit.

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19 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

My first instinct was that Trump's 180 meant that the GOP had finished scrubbing the Epstein info in such a way that it wouldn't hurt any of them and it would hurt prominent Dems.  But you may be right that they don't intend to let any of it come out anyway.

 

Mike Johnson's reaction would indicate they haven't finished anything and fully expected this to be kicked back to the House. 

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

How many times does it need to be said that they are the fucking majority? Blaming the minority leader is such dishonest bullshit.

These aren't very smart people.

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Johnson is not happy at all. He’s lost control, and Trump by proxy.  He was trying to blame Schumer, but he’s rattled it went straight to the floor and was voted on.

 

Check out Skippy deLachecul there at the end casting warding spells to see off attacks on his master. 

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Maybe the Senate is pissed at him because he shut the house for 2 months and dumped the shitty CR on them with the subsequent fallout (shutdown, election, terribad polls for R’s).

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1 minute ago, The Dog said:

Mike Johnson's reaction would indicate they haven't finished anything and fully expected this to be kicked back to the House. 

These aren't very smart people.

Only a portion of gop voters are that stupid. The rest are just fucking liars and accept that their party, each and every one of them, is incapable of truth.

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1 minute ago, 'stache said:

Only a portion of gop voters are that stupid. The rest are just fucking liars and accept that their party, each and every one of them, is incapable of truth.

I'm not talking about the voters.

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7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I’m pretty sure the bill says to release all “non classified” portions of the file so they’ll just classify all the republican stuff.

And there will be an ongoing investigation which means we can't release it, aw man, we really wanted to, but we just can't.  Same as last time.

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4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

I'm not talking about the voters.

Mike Johnson and his caucus aren’t stupid, they are intentionally dishonest, about literally everything.

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2 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

it don’t matter.  he’s going to pocket veto it while DOJ asserts investigative privilege bc they don’t need a bill anyway   

this is theatre for midterms so GOP reps can tell voters they voted to release the files and protecting CSA victims  

eyes in front, fellas…eyes in front.  

He can't pocket veto while in session, correct?

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The Democrats should try to demand a vote i’m a bill that specifically asks for all videos possessed by anyone in the United States government relating to the Epstein files.

Of course some will vote against that, making it look like a cover-up of the alleged video of Donald doing bad things with half naked young women. 

Also, refusing to comply (if the house has Senate pass that bill to protect their election chances), refusing to immediately comply, would raise obstruction and other criminal issues.  I doubt anyone will have to answer for this criminal administration, but you should at least try to set it up as much as possible.

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21 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Mike Johnson and his caucus aren’t stupid, they are intentionally dishonest, about literally everything.

They're actually mostly very stupid too, is the thing. Johnson has fucked this six ways from Sunday.

At this point, it doesn't really matter what they do to try to suppress anything harmful to Republicans/their donors from being released. Trump can veto it, they can claim they can't release a bunch of shit because of ongoing investigations, they can over-redact a bunch of shit, they can try to artfully delete incriminating shit, but whatever they do will be ham-fisted, will keep this front and center, and will only make them look worse. Trump is visibly falling apart before our eyes and the Republican coalition is splintering as everyone tries to find an exit and a place in whatever comes after.

If Trump weren't obviously shitting his pants and trying to cover up a stroke, he might be able to keep the party together on this, but he can't. They're already turning on each other and that's going to get much more obvious very soon. 

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"Mr. President, why haven't you signed the bill yet?"

"What bill? There's no bill on my desk to sign. Go ask Mike Johnson."

"Speaker Johnson, where is the bill and why isn't it on the Preseident's desk?"

"What bill? We already sent that. Go ask the House Parlimentarian."

"Where is the bill?"

"Go ask <insert name of some unknown Republican lackey assigned to physically putting the bill on the President's desk>"

"Where is the bill?"

"Oh, my dog ate it, I guess we have to start the process all over."

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Not exactly a huge deal but I turned on MS... um, NOW? in my car and the first thing I heard was whatever anchor saying "The bill is now on President Trump's desk waiting to be signed. Will that be enough to finally end this controversy?" 

Um, what? Yeah I'm sure that will be the last we hear of Epstein once the president signs the bill that says they have to release everything. 

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:

It would be funny if he’s all over the files.

He's a bible-thumping Trumpist Republican.  The chance of him being involved in some sort of sexual wrongdoing is over 100%.

1 hour ago, &#x27;stache said:

I’m pretty sure the bill says to release all “non classified” portions of the file so they’ll just classify all the republican stuff.

Bingo.  And who makes the decision as to what is "classified?"  The executive branch.  So, this is exactly what will happen.  De-classify anything relating to a Dem in any way, classify every single word that's even adjacent to mentioning a Republican.  Done deal.  It's literally that easy.

You could see an email where Epstein tells his gal "For this weekend, please procure 6 underage girls for the following men to fuck and utterly degrade:  Republican name, Republican name, Republican name,  Democrat name, Republican name,  Democrat name.  Thank you for your attention to this matter."

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31 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

And who makes the decision as to what is "classified?"  The executive branch.  So, this is exactly what will happen.  De-classify anything relating to a Dem in any way, classify every single word that's even adjacent to mentioning a Republican.  Done deal.  It's literally that easy.

Wouldn't this mean all the missing information is nobody's fault but Trump's? Congress has done everything it needs to do to say it fought for transparency?

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Just now, chainsaw said:

Wouldn't this mean all the missing information is nobody's fault but Trump's? Congress has done everything it needs to do to say it fought for transparency?

That's what a rational person would see and conclude.

Fortunately, "rational people" in this country are rarer than albino ice jaguars.

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13 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Wouldn't this mean all the missing information is nobody's fault but Trump's? Congress has done everything it needs to do to say it fought for transparency?

At this point any attempts to hide or redact stuff will automatically be seen as trump hiding his pedophile shit. It'll automatically be assumed by the majority of people. 

Maga is even imploding over it. Massie, MTG, Boebert, and Mace have been getting death threats from the Israel's bitches wing of maga. The part of maga that has staked their identity on the Epstein files are pissed and issuing death threats to people like Shapiro, Loomer, and Alex Jones. They're pissed at trump and burning their maga shit on social media. 

You have Fuentes telling his numbnut followers that maga is dead and trump is a pedophile. 

If trump doesnt put in the work (laughable I know) to get the cost of living down over the next 11 months he's going to be lame duck. He may already be a lame duck now. His party defied him to save themselves, his influencers are attacking each other and him, and he doesn't have full authoritarian control. If he did people like Massie and MTG would have been executed before it ever got anywhere near this far. 

That doesnt mean we're back up as a country by any means. This is still an illiterate, ignorant,  selfish and prejudiced society of people. What comes after maga might be even worse. But maga seems to be destroying itself and fracturing into splinter groups. 

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Just now, Hermanator said:

At this point any attempts to hide or redact stuff will automatically be seen as trump hiding his pedophile shit. It'll automatically be assumed by the majority of people. 

Maga is even imploding over it. Massie, MTG, Boebert, and Mace have been getting death threats from the Israel's bitches wing of maga. The part of maga that has staked their identity on the Epstein files are pissed and issuing death threats to people like Shapiro, Loomer, and Alex Jones. They're pissed at trump and burning their maga shit on social media. 

You have Fuentes telling his numbnut followers that maga is dead and trump is a pedophile. 

If trump doesnt put in the work (laughable I know) to get the cost of living down over the next 11 months he's going to be lame duck. He may already be a lame duck now. His party defied him to save themselves, his influencers are attacking each other and him, and he doesn't have full authoritarian control. If he did people like Massie and MTG would have been executed before it ever got anywhere near this far. 

That doesnt mean we're back up as a country by any means. This is still an illiterate, ignorant,  selfish and prejudiced society of people. What comes after maga might be even worse. But maga seems to be destroying itself and fracturing into splinter groups. 

Their saving grace is the ineptitude and weakness of Chuck Schumer



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