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4 hours ago, Lobo said:

So taking 30% of a sale price for the Government because the Government agreed not to ban it?  

I'm sorry Biden haters, how is that not precisely the definition of Socialism, exactly?  

That's not socialism it's extortion.

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Socialism is extortion.  
“buy into the collective or suffer under the thumb of the government”.

Trumpers are so much more socialist than they could possibly know.  That they think a tiny middle class tax cut a few years ago during a good economy was worth all this all other shit, that’s the most socialist trait they have.  

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3 hours ago, Rougarou said:
 
 

Yes. The Trump is "tough on China" is nonsense. China needs to be engaged with well thought out strategy not bluster. Of course any strategy would involve our Western allies because the combined economic power is significant. Trump burning the only alliance capable of pressuring China just makes his bluster a fart in the wind.

Anyone that thinks Trump is finally making America respected in the world is a Fucking idiot and should be mocked.

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When does he start talking about nationalizing industries? 

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6 hours ago, Lobo said:

So taking 30% of a sale price for the Government because the Government agreed not to ban it?  

I'm sorry Biden haters, how is that not precisely the definition of Socialism, exactly?  

All they got from Donnie was protection from other guys looking to rip them off. And that's what it's all about. That's what the FBI could never understand.

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It was government for people who couldn't go to the government.  ;)   pos rep

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Fuck you President potato head !!!!!!

you can’t keep me from my tiktok creators !!!!!!!!!   

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SO TUESDAY'S THE DAY?

Prez sayz 9/15 deadline won't be extended:



A: He'll delay it until after election.

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Oracle buying U.S. TikTok is pretty fucking weird. Does that make sense to anyone?

 

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Just now, F250 said:

Oracle buying U.S. TikTok is pretty fucking weird. Does that make sense to anyone?

 

Oracle is the big tech company most closely associated with the administration and are getting a super valuable asset at a relative bargain that will allow them to harvest monetizable data, so yes. 

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3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Oracle is the big tech company most closely associated with the administration and are getting a super valuable asset at a relative bargain that will allow them to harvest monetizable data, so yes. 

First off: MSFT is most closely associated with the administration. The $10bn JEDI project over AMZN out front shoulda told ya.

Second: Are they, though?

I have heard more than one smart analyst I follow/trust say (maybe cribbed from MSFT themselves), "it's like buying a Tesla but not getting the patented electric motor and only the shell." Sure the user base is worth something, but without the algorithm that China is withholding, it doesn't seem very smart.

And they aren't even announcing as an acquirer but a "trusted partner" which underlines that this is a weird deal for ORCL.

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Microsoft, which had real dollars and a real reputation at stake, is probably lucky to have found a way to gracefully exit this circus. You can see why Satya Nadella was intrigued by the TikTok opportunity, but the moment Microsoft was writing in a blog post that it would “provid[e] proper economic benefits to the United States, including the United States Treasury”, it should have known it was time to pull the plug. This isn’t a normal President, and this wasn’t a normal deal

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Well, Ellison is a vocal and rare Trump supporter among bigtech execs.  And MSFT probably got that deal simply because not-Amazon.

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Oracle buying U.S. TikTok is pretty fucking weird. Does that make sense to anyone?
 
WSJ says it's a way for them to leverage their cloud service or something. I don't get it either.

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15 hours ago, Rougarou said:

First off: MSFT is most closely associated with the administration. The $10bn JEDI project over AMZN out front shoulda told ya.

Second: Are they, though?

I have heard more than one smart analyst I follow/trust say (maybe cribbed from MSFT themselves), "it's like buying a Tesla but not getting the patented electric motor and only the shell." Sure the user base is worth something, but without the algorithm that China is withholding, it doesn't seem very smart.

And they aren't even announcing as an acquirer but a "trusted partner" which underlines that this is a weird deal for ORCL.

On MSFT:

Lol. Your first premise is fucking absurd. Microsoft isn't "closely associated" because they got JEDI. They got Jedi because Donald Trump fucking hates Jeff Bezos and the Washington Post, and that has been confirmed multiple times by people involved. Amazon Cloud should have that business. Using that to make a case for Microsoft being close to the Trump Administration is fucking stupid. Do Bill Gates and Donald Trump seem aligned on anything? Gates just happens to be lower on the list than Bezos.

Ellison is a pro trump guy. He probably accepted this shitbird deal to save some of Trump's face. 

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40 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lol. Your first premise is fucking absurd. Microsoft isn't "closely associated" because they got JEDI. They got Jedi because Donald Trump fucking hates Jeff Bezos and the Washington Post, and that has been confirmed multiple times by people involved. Amazon Cloud should have that business. Using that to make a case for Microsoft being close to the Trump Administration is fucking stupid. Do Bill Gates and Donald Trump seem aligned on anything? Gates just happens to be lower on the list than Bezos.

Ellison is a pro trump guy. He probably accepted this shitbird deal to save some of Trump's face. 

Yea okay, I see that you are correct. MSFT is a friend of my enemy is a friend type close with Trump's org and Satya has gone through great lengths to not be a critic of Trump. I guess "closely associated" was poor characterization and word choice when obviously Ellison is a vocal Trumper.

That said, Oracle is a second tier technology firm who is on the innovation and reputation downswing of enterprise software compared to MSFT or AMZN, so I guess they can afford to be more cavalier and honest in their outwardly facing politics. It's weird to me they bought the technology without the algorithm, but who knows, maybe the gigantic user base will stick around with an ersatz user experience and they can make hay out of this somehow.

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Trump blocking new downloads of TikTok starting on Sunday. I haven't bothered to download it before but this makes me want to. I assume that Trump can force/pressure Apple and Google to take the app of the app stores but I would guess it's something else to get the ISP to block traffic.

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7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trump blocking new downloads of TikTok starting on Sunday. I haven't bothered to download it before but this makes me want to. I assume that Trump can force/pressure Apple and Google to take the app of the app stores but I would guess it's something else to get the ISP to block traffic.

I dont see how they can enforce either option right now. I wouldn't be surprised for them to try the Great Firewall option though. Blocking Tik Tok would just be getting the camel's nose in the tent as far as government control of traffic.  Then, after the election, they can go after the BBC, UN, and others as they consolidate power and clamp down on opposition speech. 

Also, Oracle buying it is a bad move for Oracle. The only companies who do these types of buyouts that know how to maintain the user base are facebook and Google.  And even they fail sometimes. Users will flee OracleTok in droves. There are already growing alternatives. 

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I just attempted to download TikTok on my apple devices. Its still on the App Store but the download wouldn't start. maybe a glitch.

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Are they blocking downloads or blocking hosting? I assumed you wouldn’t be able to access the data after Sunday which would effectively end use of it until this big mess gets sorted out.

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3 minutes ago, Brew said:

Are they blocking downloads or blocking hosting? I assumed you wouldn’t be able to access the data after Sunday which would effectively end use of it until this big mess gets sorted out.

Downloads, including updates on Sunday. Blocking usage in mid November. 

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So, I tend to avoid the even more social media apps. But reading about the yoga pants and slips stuff makes me think I should consider getting this app.  Will the Chinese use my personal info to send me bags of heroin and modafinil?

 

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Allright, downloaded.  Seems like Instagram for ADD.   Don't think i'll keep it.  One or two cool downhill longboarding clips, though.

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