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Long post alert and I am leaving out tons. I often try to avoid posting on this, but these posts get made all the time. For reasons I'd rather not expound on, I've known more Mormons than most of the rest of this board put together. Your impression is accurate about some, but there is a grotesque side that outsiders rarely see. Mormonism is a mix of good people, average people and predators that prey on them. There's a reason Utah has more multi-level marketing schemes and victims than any other state. First, the happy all the time is a manufactured image and beaten into you as a child, often literally. It's similar to other prosperity gospel groups. If you aren't happy, it's because you need to be more righteous and God will favor you and make you happy. People learn quickly not to show anything aside from a beaming smile. Especially to outsiders. That faux everyone is always happy bullshit is one of their biggest recruiting tools. The women and children are very frequently unhappy, but have learned to keep it to themselves. Utah's suicide rate is nearly double the national average. Suicide is the leading cause of death for ages 10-17. The suicide rate among kids has tripled in the last decade. It is especially high for LGBTQ+ kids. https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/suicide-is-leading-cause-of-death-among-utahns-ages-10-17-research-shows/ Mormonism itself is also in major flux. They are facing an existential truth crisis thanks to the internet and even to South Park, though South Park barely scratched the surface. As a result, many of the actual salt of the earth people are leaving in droves. Wards are being closed down and consolidated across the country. Exmormon content is some of the highest traffic content on TikTok and reddit. Check out r/exmormon and r/mormon for examples. They realized they've been lied to and exploited their entire lives. Or, they've watched others exploited and can't stay silent, though speaking out often means they are completely cut off by their family, friends, jobs and housing. Some left because rape victims are shamed and blamed for not fighting back enough. That's only one example of many and it's gone on for decades, at a minimum. It's beyond cruel and makes the worst experience of their life even more traumatic. Real salt of the earth people don't blame rape victims and they leave cruel organizations where others do blame rape victims. Recently, a bunch left over how the Mormons treat LGBTQ+ members. You won't see it in public, but many Mormons are fucking monsters to any friends/relatives who come out as LGBTQ+, especially trans. I have a friend who is trans and I'd put the odds at 80/20 she kills her self at some point due to how other Mormons treat her. I'm probably underestimating, she's hardly talking to anyone, or returning texts anymore. I regularly have to ask her to text me an emoji response, so I know she's still alive. It makes me fucking livid that there is nothing I can do, because all the love I can give her is dwarfed by the hate she is surrounded by, including most all of her family and former close friends. Salt of the earth people wouldn't do that to her. The real salt of the earth people stand up for the vulnerable and are leaving. Also of note on this issue, you may remember the Mormon "church" spending enormous political capital and members enormous amounts of money to take away LGBTQ+ right to marriage in California. Prop 8 would not have passed without their bigotry. Real salt of the earth people allow others to live their lives as they see fit, rather than trying to take away their rights. Others have left recently when they found out the "church" created a bunch of shell companies to hide at least $32 billion dollars from the SEC. The highest levels of leadership were aware and condoned it for 22 years, until a whistleblower turned them in. For 22 years, everyone else, including 3 different President's and all of their first counselors, covered it up. That whistleblower is the only salt of the earth person in that whole bunch. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64727764 Real salt of the earth people don't condone 22years of hiding billions from the SEC, they leave corrupt organizations like that. They report it to the SEC if they find out. Lots of the good people left when they found out about Joseph Smith's many concubines, including his 14 year old "wife" and how he coerced her by telling her that her families salvation depended on her giving herself to him. She lived to regret that decision and wrote about how she missed her lost childhood dearly. Many of those same Mormons you would call salt of the earth people bend over backwards to excuse this, "She was a few months shy of her 15th birthday". It's fucking gross. Actual salt of the earth people know that is deeply wrong and are leaving over it. Others left when they found out about the many "wives" Smith took that were already married, including sending men overseas on missions and "marrying" their wives. Or Brigham Young's 15 year old "wives", genocide and massacres of the Utah Native American tribes and that he owned slaves. Or that at least the first 4 Prophet, Seer and Revelators took child brides. Again, actual salt of the earth people cannot countenance these completely immoral and indefensible actions. Real salt of the earth people leave. Others left because there is a burgeoning awareness of how rampant domestic and sexual abuse of women and children are. Check out https://floodlit.org, a group who are cataloging all known sexual accusations and instances of direct coverup by leadership. They have a backlog of thousands of cases. The "church" has a special hot line for bishops and stake presidents to call that goes straight to their lawfirm, Kirton-McConkie, who "investigates" and covers up everything they can. The "church" actively lobbies to maintain clergy privilege and not have to disclose abuse to police if it's reported to leadership, despite the fact that the bishops/stake presidents have no formal training and are often just one of the richest, most connected members of the community. Right up the present day, Mormon leadership protects domestic abusers and sexual abusers if the family of the perpetrator is well connected. A friend of mine was married to a man who regularly beat the shit out of her, put out cigarettes on her, subjected her to regular and extremely violent rape. The abuser's family was powerful locally. His brother was a bishop in a nearby ward, his father was the stake president. Every time she reported it to her bishop, he heavily pressured her to not report it and to give the abuser another chance. God had brought them together, who was she to question his will? That's pretty close to verbatim what she was told over and over, to the point where she internalized it and began to see it as her fault. When she tried to complain to the stake president, it was the abuser's dad and he also tried to force her to accept the abuse. When she tried to escalate that, she was scolded for going over the stake president's head. She was frozen out completely and told to talk to the abuser's father about it. She was subjected to that for nearly two years until I found out some of the worst details she'd been telling the church leaders for years. I decided if his church wouldn't put the fear of God in him, I would. He hasn't come within 1000 feet of her since. They could have stopped it at any time, but chose not to. Her abuser, his brother and his father all remain members in good standing as of the last time I heard about them. Brother and father were still in high up leadership roles. You can check the subreddits to see that is far from an isolated case. The top post on the r/exmormon subreddit currently is about a man who raped his daughter for 14 years, went to prison for it, and has just been re-baptised and forgiven. His daughter's life is destroyed forever, but he's re-baptized, so that sin is washed away for him. Her mother chose him over her own daughter. Welcome back into the flock Elder Incest Child Rapist. How can any decent person stay in such a monstrous organization. Actual decent people leave. Kids do one on one "worthiness" interviews with the bishop where they are asked incredibly invasive questions. Many kids first learn about masturbation when the bishop asks them about it explicitly. It's fucked up. For members, including teenagers, that have engaged in extramarital sexual relations, bishops have total leeway in what to ask them. Virtually all of them will ask how many times, what you did, was there oral, hand, vaginal, anal. Some of them want to know exact positions, did you use a condom, did you cum, did you cum inside her, did she cum? Just one example. Bear in mind, the bishop has no formal training, he's usually just one of the richest members of the congregation. It's a religion literally founded on lies, grifting, predatory behavior and sexual abuse of women and children. It continues to be that today. So there are three types of mormons left. 1) The ones who are willfully ignorant, despite the internet being at their fingertips, or 2) are gullible enough to know it and try to make themselves okay with it, or 3) the ones who see it as a guidebook for how to prey on the rest of them. There are still some willfully ignorant good people there. I really do feel bad for them. They are so afraid to find out the truth, they wall themselves off from reality. They are told by their leadership to "Doubt Your Doubts". I understand it is incredibly difficult to walk away from indoctrination that constant and powerful, especially if you are born into it. They've never known any different. But unless they do stand up and leave, they cannot be real salt of the earth people. Not if they support all of the above, plus much, much more awful shit. Real salt of the earth people leave such a monstrous organization.39 points
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The trainer he's been training with in Texas for the past month has been Derrick Johnson35 points
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Per someone writing the checks we are upping the bid on Atkinson and several others. Heβs not gonna end up here but others will have to pay. We are managing things on a high level and even in recruitments we arenβt likely to win we are a big fucking problem for everyone else out there. Itβs a fantastic time to be a Texas fan. Iβm enjoying it immensely. Once it officially became a game of money and intelligence we rose to the top in a hurry. Fun times.32 points
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The President of the United States is tweeting like a teenager in matters of international conflict involving nuclear armament. India's PM also had to fact check him in real time today when he lied about solving their recent scuffle with Pakistan. But let's not comment on any of it because CLOAK ROOM! How fucking pathetic.23 points
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Tyler Atkinson will now take an OV this weekend.21 points
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So he's got more than just a random weekend trainer in Texas it sounds like:18 points
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You guys, if we don't lanbd Jojo and others, we are fucked.18 points
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"8 in 10 republicans support rendition without due process" tell me more how the democrats just aren't messaging well enough17 points
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Government agents concealing their identity from the public prevents accountability. That's authoritarianism, plain and simple.17 points
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To be fair, Ted Cruz would never put himself in this situation with a βliberalβ journalist, and would absolutely deflect and attack. He thought he was safe with Tucker and got exposed.17 points
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Another is going to Robert Wheeler so he can take fans on road trips.16 points
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Lost in all the panic is that between last class and this one we are putting together a DL/EDGE room that Bama' and Georgia have been trotting out the past decade+.16 points
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Two thoughts: 1. Murders, rapist and kidnappers must be havibg a field day. All they need to do is join a group of 3+ and they donβt have to sneak around anymore. 2. If anyone decides to just open fire on these masked plain clothes gangs, and I am on the jury, they are walking scott free.16 points
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Own the flag that flew over the white house on your special day. Book your day now because supply is very limited! Each flag is only $4547. People are saying they will be worth millions! Thank you for your attention to this matter!!15 points
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$3B .....65 miles. Money well spent. At least for the contractors that received that $3B. https://www.keranews.org/texas-news/2025-06-17/with-only-8-built-texas-quietly-defunds-state-border-wall-program impenetrable14 points
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Don't be fooled, Tucker is still ust being Putin's mouthpiece. Iran is a Putin ally so he's just wants American politicians who support regime change to look bad. It's just propaganda and optics Let me be clear, I hate Ted Cruz, but knowing the population and/or ethnic make up of Iran isn't germane to wether the Ayatollah should be overthrown. I think Putin should be overthrown, but I have no idea how many people live in Russia, or what the ethnic breakdown is. Ted is just starting an opinion. Journalism is asking the whys, hows, and what the regional/global ramifications would be, not questions about the population, or favorite foods of the country.14 points
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I agree to all this 100% However....... I celebrate anything that makes that carpetbagging, weasel-faced, smarmy little bitch look like a dipshit.13 points
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Sharma and Charles were gone and Terry was a pipe dream to 98% of us a year ago. Let Aggy over spend on 4-5 head to heads a cycle. They want to win the off season bc they know on the field they are fucked vs big brother.13 points
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I was surrounded by about 80 rabid LSU fans with 20 or so fans from other SEC schools. They hate us so much. At a round table during a golf tourney weather delay an old dog orthopedic surgeon LSU fan gave me the dig that it took being able to pay players openly for Texas to be good again. I just said, βYea we are all real excited and loving this new era. Itβs been really fun.β The scowl he gave was better than a birdie putt. Welcome to the fucking show you fucking dildo.12 points
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You cannot talk about a conflict involving Israel, Iran, and the US and not talk about the leaders of each. That means opinions too. If you want just facts, I don't think that exists anymore, certainly not on a damn message board.12 points
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The GBU-43/B MOAB can be dropped from a C-130 but it is an air burst bomb, not a bunker buster that would be needed for Fordow. The GBU-57A/B MOP is the bunker buster bomb that would be needed for destroying Fordow but it can only be currently deployed from a B-2 bomber. It was tested from a B-52 but that isn't its current delivery platform.11 points
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