2020 Texas Offseason Thread: Herman's Hail Mary

[texifornia 56281]

I feel so empty inside.

How will the new coordinators make their mark on the program? Who are the new position coaches? Who's transferring out? What grad transfers are coming?

Our fanbase koolaid tolerance is lower than last year after the Becklando Experience's last rodeo. Let's get those numbers up.

Edited January 3, 2020 by texifornia

[Hiphopopotamos 20862]

I expect a top 10 offense.

I expect a top 40 defense.

I expect Bijan to rush for 1000 yards.

I expect double-digit sacks from Joseph Ossai.

I expect a Conference Title.

 

[Huckleberry 32659]

16-0 national champions*

* - including the Spring Game

[LTtxfan 48823]

Gonna throw in a clip of offense Yrrrrrcich might run.....thanks for link @Katfid54   

https://gcs-vimeo.akamaized.net/exp=1578083968~acl=*%2F872371752.mp4*~hmac=01aa84e4fc751752dd212944af021e2d19716daa706866835d1244eaca2c0b71/vimeo-prod-skyfire-std-us/01/3556/9/242782768/872371752.mp4  

[TotallyLegit 3050]

12 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Gonna throw in a clip of offense Yrrrrrcich might run.....thanks for link @Katfid54   

https://gcs-vimeo.akamaized.net/exp=1578083968~acl=*%2F872371752.mp4*~hmac=01aa84e4fc751752dd212944af021e2d19716daa706866835d1244eaca2c0b71/vimeo-prod-skyfire-std-us/01/3556/9/242782768/872371752.mp4  

That's the mills concept combined with shallow cross: http://smartfootball.com/offense/the-science-of-the-post-going-deep-with-mills

 

I wish I had more evidence, but I kinda feel like the deep post hasn't been one of Ehlinger's better throws.

[Shaggy3.0 1695]

Is this the thread where we all predict conference championship, playoff run, heisman candidate?

Then after going 8-5 or 9-4, people say no one predicted those things listed above.

 

 

[LTtxfan 48823]

12 minutes ago, TotallyLegit said:

That's the mills concept combined with shallow cross: http://smartfootball.com/offense/the-science-of-the-post-going-deep-with-mills

I wish I had more evidence, but I kinda feel like the deep post hasn't been one of Ehlinger's better throws.

Maybe Yrrrrcich can teach Sammy to hit that throw better this year!!  🤘

[Moliniao 5]

10 minutes ago, TotallyLegit said:

That's the mills concept combined with shallow cross: http://smartfootball.com/offense/the-science-of-the-post-going-deep-with-mills

 

I wish I had more evidence, but I kinda feel like the deep post hasn't been one of Ehlinger's better throws.

Agree on that point. I don't think Sam has a strong arm. he'll be a senior. I don't think he can improve his arm strength anymore. But, if the new OC can fully utilize his current strengths, our offense should be fine next year.

A top20 offense and a top50 defense should be able to help for a 10win season and top10 finish. 

[LTtxfan 48823]

4 minutes ago, Shaggy3.0 said:

Is this the thread where we all predict conference championship, playoff run, heisman candidate?        Then after going 8-5 or 9-4, people say no one predicted those things listed above.

[jinx 2635]

Whatever you do, don't drink the koolaid.  It's really just piss.

[orangecat92 306]

let's be realistic.  top 30 offense, top 60 defense.  losses to LSU and one game we're favored in, but a victory over OU leaves us at 2 losses going into the big 12 game.  Game is toss up. 

With so much depth caused by the injuries on D, we might even have the D come close to the top 30.  

All of the above assumes no major injuries.   We always win the bowl game, so we finish top 10.  

 

 

 

 

[DanTheHorn 4884]

With the talent on the roster and our schedule I expect the kool-aid to overflow. Hell it already started to flow from the Alamo Bowl and River-walk.

[Burt Macklin 18984]

1 minute ago, orangecat92 said:

let's be realistic.  top 30 offense, top 60 defense.  losses to LSU and one game we're favored in, but a victory over OU leaves us at 2 losses going into the big 12 game.  Game is toss up. 

With so much depth caused by the injuries on D, we might even have the D come close to the top 30.  

All of the above assumes no major injuries.   We always win the bowl game, so we finish top 10.  

 

 

 

 

We had a top 20 offense and a top 60ish defense this year.  There is almost no way a top 30 offense and top 60 defense leads to a 10-2 regular season next year. 

20 minutes ago, Moliniao said:

Agree on that point. I don't think Sam has a strong arm. he'll be a senior. I don't think he can improve his arm strength anymore. But, if the new OC can fully utilize his current strengths, our offense should be fine next year.

A top20 offense and a top50 defense should be able to help for a 10win season and top10 finish. 

Sam's issues with hitting the post were usually due to overthrows, not under throws. His arm strength is average to above average for a college QB. 

[Huckleberry 32659]

3 minutes ago, orangecat92 said:

let's be realistic.  top 30 offense, top 60 defense. 

So you think we won't improve on offense or defense but our team will be much better. Interesting. 

[Lhorn 4872]

I expect a top 10 offense.
I expect a top 40 defense.
I expect Bijan to rush for 1000 yards.
I expect double-digit sacks from Joseph Ossai.
I expect a Conference Title.
 

I think it’s good that you’ve established the floor for 2020.

[Katfid54 8583]

42 minutes ago, TotallyLegit said:

That's the mills concept combined with shallow cross: http://smartfootball.com/offense/the-science-of-the-post-going-deep-with-mills

 

I wish I had more evidence, but I kinda feel like the deep post hasn't been one of Ehlinger's better throws.

Ehlinger was v bad at that throw to Duvernay in 2018.  He was significantly better throwing the post to Eagles this year.

[orangecat92 306]

9 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

So you think we won't improve on offense or defense but our team will be much better. Interesting. 

defense will improve from top 110.  I know, I am using the outdated yards per game ranking.  The offense ranking will be about the same, just less predictable.  

The special teams will be much better, more like the Alamo Bowl, and we should get some breaks in 20. 

 

 

[runthebone 7910]

14 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

So you think we won't improve on offense or defense but our team will be much better. Interesting. 

Must be all of the special teams improvement...

[LTtxfan 48823]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Gonna throw in a clip of offense Yrrrrrcich might run.....thanks for link @Katfid54   

https://gcs-vimeo.akamaized.net/exp=1578083968~acl=*%2F872371752.mp4*~hmac=01aa84e4fc751752dd212944af021e2d19716daa706866835d1244eaca2c0b71/vimeo-prod-skyfire-std-us/01/3556/9/242782768/872371752.mp4  

Dang the link above died... 😬 

 

Adding this inside zone read video to 2020 thread for reference...

 

Edited January 3, 2020 by LTtxfan

[Sgt Hulk 13617]

There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
 

2019 was a fooled you moment.  I’m still expecting 3-4 Ls   Hoping everyone is quoting this in December when we win the conference. And I’ll eat crow.  But I’m buying much of the same 

[Tex Long 4308]

4 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Must be all of the special teams improvement...

ST looked good against Utah, yeah? Was that because someone wasn't fucking with the return game like they have for the last three years? Or was Utah #129 against returns? 

[maninblack 7974]

Herman is getting fired without a B12 Championship. We kicked the can down the road. It was either Shaka or Herman this year but not both. 

[Lhorn 4872]

Herman is getting fired without a B12 Championship. We kicked the can down the road. It was either Shaka or Herman this year but not both. 

If only 1 gets the trap door this year, I can live with it being Shaka.

[ClubWhatever 12082]

5 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Herman is getting fired without a B12 Championship. 

This is a ridiculous categorical statement.  So if he pulls a 2019 Baylor and goes 11-1 but then loses in the CCG he gets fired?  Right.  

[Burt Macklin 18984]

11 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Herman is getting fired without a B12 Championship. We kicked the can down the road. It was either Shaka or Herman this year but not both. 

I wish I had your confidence. Maybe it's just following this program for the last decade, but I can see a scenario where we win 8 or 9 in the regular season, don't make the CCG and he's still here in 2021. We need 2020 to be a monumental success or a monumental failure but nothing in between. 

[Surly Bevo 24686]

We are going to get 10-4 with no Conference Championship and a bowl game win and like it.

 

We're Texas

[perfectchaos007 6573]

20 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Herman is getting fired without a B12 Championship. We kicked the can down the road. It was either Shaka or Herman this year but not both. 

He's fired if we don't make the Big 12 champ game.

Will probably get a big bonus/extension if we win the Big 12

Probably retained even if we lose the champ game, but won't get an extension/bonus

[Walden Ponderer 12638]

6 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

We are going to get 10-4 with no Conference Championship and a bowl game win and like it.

 

We're Texas

There's still wheels on the bus!  Yeah, baby!

[maninblack 7974]

19 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

This is a ridiculous categorical statement.  So if he pulls a 2019 Baylor and goes 11-1 but then loses in the CCG he gets fired?  Right.  

Baylor people like Rhule even though he's a drunk. Herman is universally hated.

[Fozzz 152]

1 hour ago, orangecat92 said:

let's be realistic.  top 30 offense, top 60 defense.  losses to LSU and one game we're favored in, but a victory over OU leaves us at 2 losses going into the big 12 game.  Game is toss up. 

 

 

 

 

 

Hmm...so a return of the fabled SP+ anti-Herman bias?  Maybe it's only operative in even-numbered years.

Edited January 3, 2020 by Fozzz

[Elmer_Fudd 22032]

Don't remember seeing Jacoby Jones play the other night, was he suited out?  Figured he'd have got some snaps in the 4-man front.  

[CBHorn 414]

4 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

I expect a top 10 offense.

I expect a top 40 defense.

I expect Bijan to rush for 1000 yards.

I expect double-digit sacks from Joseph Ossai.

I expect a Conference Title.

 

1, 2, 3. 

[ClubWhatever 12082]

6 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Don't remember seeing Jacoby Jones play the other night, was he suited out?  Figured he'd have got some snaps in the 4-man front.  

He is not listed on the participation list 

[Cajun 11671]

2 hours ago, Walden Ponderer said:

There's still wheels on the bus!  Yeah, baby!

But, you see, they do not go round and round.

[taybo20 2812]

We need to win so badly. And stop having shitty games against shitty teams. Simple fundamentals and putting players in positions to make plays will do wonders

[Sejjr 3246]

Stop fucking worrying about out-scheming and out-mensa-ing teams and let our athletes play like they were born to play. And beat the fuck out of the weak teams on the schedule.

Let's get back to what it was like when we'd effortlessly hang 60 on Baylor and Kansas.

Edited January 4, 2020 by Sejjr

[ClubWhatever 12082]

Let’s go independent and stop sharing money with those fuckwads

Edited January 4, 2020 by ClubWhatever

[TheMailBox357 213]

3 hours ago, maninblack said:

Herman is getting fired without a B12 Championship. We kicked the can down the road. It was either Shaka or Herman this year but not both. 

 

3 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

This is a ridiculous categorical statement.  So if he pulls a 2019 Baylor and goes 11-1 but then loses in the CCG he gets fired?  Right.  

 

3 hours ago, maninblack said:

Baylor people like Rhule even though he's a drunk. Herman is universally hated.

I just don't buy it. If Herman goes 10-2 & loses the Big 12 title game, the ONLY way you can sell firing Herman is if UT is hiring a big fish like Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. That's it.

[atomheartbevo 89303]

4 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

He's fired if we don't make the Big 12 champ game.

Will probably get a big bonus/extension if we win the Big 12

Probably retained even if we lose the champ game, but won't get an extension/bonus

He better not get an extension until we see what shakes out with the QB question in 2021

[maninblack 7974]

44 minutes ago, TheMailBox357 said:

I just don't buy it. If Herman goes 10-2 & loses the Big 12 title game, the ONLY way you can sell firing Herman is if UT is hiring a big fish like Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. That's it.

Don't think we're going to have to worry about it

[Newy25 7627]

6 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

I expect a top 10 offense.

I expect a top 40 defense.

I expect Bijan to rush for 1000 yards.

I expect double-digit sacks from Joseph Ossai.

I expect a Conference Title.

 

Bijan is not even going to be the top rusher next season. I will take the under 1000 yards rushing during his freshman year. 

[Thetexashammer 1062]

I expect to go undefeated. I'll tolerate a loss or two if we get really unlucky. Every game is winnable. Shit both OU and LSU were winnable this year, if we had better coaches.

Tommy Boy screwed up. His "attention to detail" was bullshit. We were underperforming from the beginning of the season but he didn't listen or evaluate correctly. Why do they even bother watching tape if they aren't fixing the fuckups? I mean, even a football idiot like me can see that blitzes from Egypt don't work. And everyone knew our offensive playcalls. Maybe I'm not the only one who could have picked up on that? 

So far his bullshit has all been a lie. I hope he's figured out how to fix it. You can't be fucking friends with your subordinates. You just can't. 

I also expect them to let Sam audible. It's idiotic that he doesn't. O-line should be better. Offense should be on fire next year.

[JFKFC 4878]

We will go 8-4. Losses to LSU, OU, OSU, and someone else along the way. 

Can't expect anything better with this o-line group. 

We will win the Cotton Bowl, and Herman is retained.

[Newy25 7627]

Oklahoma will be breaking in a new QB and Baylor loses a fuck ton of players next year. If we do not win the conference next year with a senior Ehlinger Herman needs to be fired. If it does not happen next year it will never happen for Herman. 

[Vertigo 20224]

46 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Oklahoma will be breaking in a new QB and Baylor loses a fuck ton of players next year. If we do not win the conference next year with a senior Ehlinger Herman needs to be fired. If it does not happen next year it will never happen for Herman. 

I kind of agree with you, and if Riley and Rhule bolt to the NFL there is absolutely zero excuse.

[Longboard Horn 40006]

I predict that we will be blowU but lose to a couple teams that we’re not supposed to 

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1564]

6 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
 

2019 was a fooled you moment.  I’m still expecting 3-4 Ls   Hoping everyone is quoting this in December when we win the conference. And I’ll eat crow.  But I’m buying much of the same 

“Fuck the peace sign, load the choppa, let it rain on you...”

[EZ$ 2102]

1 hour ago, Newy25 said:

Oklahoma will be breaking in a new QB 

I think we have learned that that doesn’t mean shit. Now, breaking in a new QB with a new coach would be something. 

[nunna yo bizness 1687]

1 hour ago, Longboard Horn said:

I predict that we will be blowU but lose to a couple teams that we’re not supposed to 

WTF?  We're going to become meth heads and start fucking our sisters?

[Rockwell Torrey 1276]

2 minutes ago, nunna yo bizness said:

WTF?  We're going to become meth heads and start fucking our sisters?

It really depends on how badly you want a conference championship.