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4 minutes ago, mdmost said:

They found Eleven in the woods while searching for their missing friend.

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It was nice of the Mind Flayer to change from a highly intelligent telekinetic shadow monster who communicated across space to a screaming fleshy crab thing pretty easily deterred by some fire. Other than that loved the ending.

Someone pointed out that the Abyss sequence looked like the Linkin Park video for In The End. Duffer Bros must be huge fans.

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I am cool with the end being ambiguous. One of the other things I went back and checked was in the last scene, Mike’s mom called them up for dinner. I wondered why that shot of her was included there, so I went back to see it. It is a little too blurry, but I wanted to see if she had the scars. She did not have visible scars on her body, I thought I saw the throat scar, but it was not clear on my screen.

Where does Max live and how did she graduate after being in a coma for two years?

14 minutes ago, Nigel Tufnel said:

I am cool with the end being ambiguous. One of the other things I went back and checked was in the last scene, Mike’s mom called them up for dinner. I wondered why that shot of her was included there, so I went back to see it. It is a little too blurry, but I wanted to see if she had the scars. She did not have visible scars on her body, I thought I saw the throat scar, but it was not clear on my screen.

I just checked and can't make out anything.

You could see her scars at graduation. Vividly

14 hours ago, Red Five said:

Not enough crying.

I think Steve was the only character who did not have at least one crying scene.

53 minutes ago, Js1 said:

You could see her scars at graduation. Vividly

Graduation was part of the story, not the reality. The only reality may have been the two scenes, beginning and end, where they are playing D&D.

1 minute ago, Nigel Tufnel said:

Graduation was part of the story, not the reality. The only reality may have been the two scenes, beginning and end, where they are playing D&D.

2 minutes ago, Nigel Tufnel said:

Graduation was part of the story, not the reality. The only reality may have been the two scenes, beginning and end, where they are playing D&D.

she has them in the video in her green tank top. Probably bad lighting or angle

Just now, Red Five said:

Want to add that the music was fantastic in the finale. Heroes is probably in my top 10 all-time.

Pixies and cowboy junkies too

Purple Rain was great too.

I don’t know if we can blow up the upside down to the dulcet tones of the Butthole Surfers.

4 hours ago, Nigel Tufnel said:

I am cool with the end being ambiguous. One of the other things I went back and checked was in the last scene, Mike’s mom called them up for dinner. I wondered why that shot of her was included there, so I went back to see it. It is a little too blurry, but I wanted to see if she had the scars. She did not have visible scars on her body, I thought I saw the throat scar, but it was not clear on my screen.

Because not seeing visible scars on Mike's mom would obliterate the credibility of this show.

it doesn't seem vague to me...they are all crying. why would they be crying if they were just playing/finishing a D&D game.

Really great way to wrap it up with plenty of denouement. Loved the callback to the beginning with the next group of kids running down the stairs to play d&d. Mike's explanation and the others choosing to believe it is much more satisfying from a story telling perspective than just telling you everyone lived happily ever after.

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I chuckled when my family talked about how they really don’t care about worrying if the spores are bad to breathe in this season and how they no longer cover their faces only to have the nurse Vickie bring it up towards the end and it’s shrugged off.

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On 1/3/2026 at 7:56 AM, mdmost said:

Someone pointed out that the Abyss sequence looked like the Linkin Park video for In The End. Duffer Bros must be huge fans.

Equal amount of thought seemingly went into both worlds, too.

$400+ million dollar budget and we get an unremarkable, barren, generic CGIscape with a giant crab in the middle.

On 1/2/2026 at 8:06 AM, elguapo said:

Guess I’m in the minority in thinking that the finale was just ok. It was all very predictable and the last 45m or so of emotional monologue stuff dragged. I also don’t like how they left things with El’s story. We really didn’t get any surprise twists n the end game, they went with a very safe ending which is whatever. My kids are huge ST fans and they were also underwhelmed.

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Cara Buono has had a career. The Sopranos, Mad Men, and Stranger Things.

Does she have another blockbuster in her future? Any casting director would be wise to cast her as a lucky rabbit’s foot.

I’m honestly kind of surprised Erica wasn’t featured much in season 5 or the finale

On 1/3/2026 at 2:02 PM, Jerry Callo said:

Where does Max live and how did she graduate after being in a coma for two years?

Doomlet was too young for the show until now, so we binged from start to finish over Christmas break, finishing up today. This is what he's most hung up on, too.

Out of curiosity, I kept track of how many separate times we heard the Kate Bush song. 11 instances in S4, 10 in S5.

My continuity gripe is that Max has two different pro-quality skateboards in S2 and then again later on in S3 or S4, but she's riding a crappy generic department store board during the finale. No skater would ever go from good equipment to bad like that.

I had the same initial reaction to Will's long coming out scene as someone else mentioned upthread, but I imagine that it might have been validating or comforting or reassuring or whatever to a fair number of kids in the audience trying to come to terms with that same thing in their lives right now, so I'm glad the show gave it the time and attention it did, despite taking up a lot of very limited and precious time as the plan came together.

Overall, I liked how it ended.

I thought the actor who played Billy was excellent, and was disappointed to learn that he's basically given up acting in anything but arthouse films.

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On 1/1/2026 at 3:49 PM, RexWilson said:

This was a show that became a bonding experience with my two kids. It started so simple with just enjoying the show and answering their questions about being a kid in the 80s. It developed to us genuinely loving the characters and plenty of theory conversations and impatiently waiting for the next season. One of the best family trips we have taken was to Atlanta to see the filming locations and take hundreds of photos and recreations.

It hit me different when it all ended last night. My kids are teens now and aged out of some of the joys of youth of innocence. It made me sad knowing I have one less activity they still enjoy doing with their dad.

This. It’s been a great bond with the littles over the last few years and it’s kinda fitting that after this year I’ll be an empty nester. I can’t pretend to fully understand the upside down, wormholes, and dimension X though. I enjoyed it overall though for sure .

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My biggest gripe about S5 was Linda Hamilton's comically large wig. Kim Mulkey-esque.

There were a few scenes where I wondered if it was something left over from Matthew Modine's equally bighaired character's prop/costume equipment.

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1 hour ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Doomlet was too young for the show until now, so we binged from start to finish over Christmas break, finishing up today. This is what he's most hung up on, too.

Out of curiosity, I kept track of how many separate times we heard the Kate Bush song. 11 instances in S4, 10 in S5.

My continuity gripe is that Max has two different pro-quality skateboards in S2 and then again later on in S3 or S4, but she's riding a crappy generic department store board during the finale. No skater would ever go from good equipment to bad like that.

I had the same initial reaction to Will's long coming out scene as someone else mentioned upthread, but I imagine that it might have been validating or comforting or reassuring or whatever to a fair number of kids in the audience trying to come to terms with that same thing in their lives right now, so I'm glad the show gave it the time and attention it did, despite taking up a lot of very limited and precious time as the plan came together.

Overall, I liked how it ended.

I thought the actor who played Billy was excellent, and was disappointed to learn that he's basically given up acting in anything but arthouse films.

I’ll tread lightly here. I think the internet’s biggest problem with Will’s coming out scene was the audience and his friends already knew he was gay. It’s a big dramatic build up for a very anticlimactic scene. Hence, the Madea parodies.

I've seen it joked that Will's coming out scene was longer than the final battle with the Mind Flayer and Vecna.

3 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Cara Buono has had a career. The Sopranos, Mad Men, and Stranger Things.

Does she have another blockbuster in her future? Any casting director would be wise to cast her as a lucky rabbit’s foot.

Is that Moltisanti's wife Kelli? No wonder she stirred the loins. Still hot.

11 minutes ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

Is that Moltisanti's wife Kelli? No wonder she stirred the loins. Still hot.

Correct. Probably the least bitchy of the wives on the show and absolute smoke.

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I can't believe I watched this entire show and never realized that's who that was.

When the Soprano's originally aired, I thought Kelli was plain and Adriana was hot. On rewatch, Kelli seemed much more attractive and Adriana was meh.

The shot of Eleven at the end sort of explained some of her wardrobe selections during the last season.

"Ok, let's wrap them again, then a sports bra, then a bulky sweatshirt, then a burlap sack."

Anyone get ROTJ vibes in the final battle? Luke vs Vader in the Death Star while the buddies attack it from the outside.

2 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

Anyone get ROTJ vibes in the final battle? Luke vs Vader in the Death Star while the buddies attack it from the outside.

Yeah, they even referenced it during the show.

Mrs. Wheeler was way too hot for Mr. Wheeler.

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8 hours ago, F250 said:

Mrs. Wheeler was way too hot for Mr. Wheeler.

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Must've been transplants from SEC country.

It was explained to me that Will's coming out meeting was necessary to take away the one thing that Vecna could use against him - the fear, however rational or irrational, of losing all of his friends if they found out. That explanation gives a little more context as to why they were having such a discussion in the middle of trying to save the world.

23 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

It was explained to me that Will's coming out meeting was necessary to take away the one thing that Vecna could use against him - the fear, however rational or irrational, of losing all of his friends if they found out. That explanation gives a little more context as to why they were having such a discussion in the middle of trying to save the world.

It's not the idea being criticized but the execution. The audience has been beaten over the head with unsubtle hints since season 3/California which has been like 6 years in real time? Everyone knew exactly what was coming, so it was a predictable reveal in a drawn-out quasi group therapy session which wasn't very interesting. There were better ways to execute the idea.

36 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

It was explained to me that Will's coming out meeting was necessary to take away the one thing that Vecna could use against him - the fear, however rational or irrational, of losing all of his friends if they found out. That explanation gives a little more context as to why they were having such a discussion in the middle of trying to save the world.

My daughter mentioned this scene felt a bit much and unnecessary. She didn't understand Will's fear of coming out.

I had to explain to her that being ostracized after coming out was common during this period of time. Will's fear was justified. I brought up the controversy of the Ellen coming out episode which took place a decade after the Stranger Things time period. Younger people don't realize how much homosexuals were treated as outcasts at the time.

Wasn’t mentioned in the show, but 1987 was the middle of the aids epidemic and the gay population was most heavily hit, or at least portrayed as such in the news and politics. So even with total acceptance, there would be fear for his wellbeing from everyone including himself.

32 minutes ago, F250 said:

My daughter mentioned this scene felt a bit much and unnecessary. She didn't understand Will's fear of coming out.

I had to explain to her that being ostracized after coming out was common during this period of time. Will's fear was justified. I brought up the controversy of the Ellen coming out episode which took place a decade after the Stranger Things time period. Younger people don't realize how much homosexuals were treated as outcasts at the time.

I'd guess a huge amount of the criticism is definitely younger generations watching the show wondering "what's the big fucking deal?"

So good on you for informing your daughter that Will coming out in 1987/88 was actually a big fucking deal. As was Mike's apology and re-affirming that they are still best friends.

Yeah I had a great conversation with my oldest back when Robin came out to Steve in season 3 and how that was a pretty spot on version of how it would've had to happen back then.

The obvious joke is that Will’s friends reacted as if it was 2025, not 1985. I graduated hs in 1990 and if that scene had happened irl at least one of my good friends would have called me a fag and then we all would have laughed about it. But obviously they couldn’t go that route.

3 hours ago, F250 said:

My daughter mentioned this scene felt a bit much and unnecessary. She didn't understand Will's fear of coming out.

I had to explain to her that being ostracized after coming out was common during this period of time. Will's fear was justified. I brought up the controversy of the Ellen coming out episode which took place a decade after the Stranger Things time period. Younger people don't realize how much homosexuals were treated as outcasts at the time.

Just read online that (contrary to this thread) most online are deeply disappointed and creating alternative conspiracy theories:

The Stranger Things Finale Was So Bad That Fans Are Convinced There’s Another Episode Surprise Dropping This Week

We’ve got another “The Johnlock Conspiracy” situation on our hands.

For the uninitiated, “Johnlock” was the ship name for John Watson and Sherlock Holmes from BBC’s Sherlock. “TJLC” was the fandom term for a very specific set of shippers who believed that the show’s January 2017 finale, where Holmes and Watson remained just friends, must be a smokescreen for the real finale where they ended up together.

This time around the ship is Byler, or fans of Stranger Things fans that think that Will Byers and Mike Wheeler should have similarly ended up together in the finale. And, again like in 2017, fans are so angry about this that they’ve convinced themselves that there’s a secret second finale dropping this week. They’re calling it #ConformityGate and they believe that the last episode was all an illusion created by the show’s villain, Vecna, and that a new episode released on January 7th will confirm this.

Shippers ruin every show. Toxic as fuck

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