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1 minute ago, Magus Ossis said:

Couldn’t resist repeating the apt error from earlier today. Old habit? Privilege? Concession? Yore rite, your right, you’re right.

It wasn’t an error, it was an attempt at humor since there was an ad hominem attack and ctj is kind of a homonym because it is being used as an acronym for two different things. 

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1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

So I had the thought with all their talk about Jimbo and what a great recruiter he is, and while he’s certainly going to have back to back top 10 classes, a lot of that is due to sheer, or should I say shear,  numbers and much less based upon recruit average rating. So far, between the 2019 and 2020 classes, Jimbo has taken  27 out of 45 total commits or signees outside the composite top 300, which is 60%.

since Herman’s first full class in 2018, UT has taken only 22 out of 64 outside of the top 300, which is only 34%. 

If you extrapolate that rate out over 4 classes, UT’s 85 man roster will have 56 blue chip players, while A&M’s will only have 34. 

So while UT and A&M’s classes will probably finish around the same spot in 2019 and 2020, the quality of players taken by UT is significantly higher and that will come into play even more once both coaches have a roster full of their own players.

 

 

I was told there’d be no Mathlin.

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Attritionpalooza has started in earnest. Mohammed Diallo, Ondario Robinson, and TD Moton were not on the roster released today to signal the start of fall camp.

 

That puts them at 84 going into the season, and 9 spots over the 85 man limit with the current 2020 class.

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12 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Attritionpalooza has started in earnest. Mohammed Diallo, Ondario Robinson, and TD Moton were not on the roster released today to signal the start of fall camp.

 

That puts them at 84 going into the season, and 9 spots over the 85 man limit with the current 2020 class.

I’m 95% sure you literally made up all of those names

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15 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Attritionpalooza has started in earnest. Mohammed Diallo, Ondario Robinson, and TD Moton were not on the roster released today to signal the start of fall camp.

 

That puts them at 84 going into the season, and 9 spots over the 85 man limit with the current 2020 class.

Old Ondario. Charlie worked him hard, to no avail. 

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6 hours ago, Burt Macklin said:

So I had the thought with all their talk about Jimbo and what a great recruiter he is, and while he’s certainly going to have back to back top 10 classes, a lot of that is due to sheer, or should I say shear,  numbers and much less based upon recruit average rating. So far, between the 2019 and 2020 classes, Jimbo has taken  27 out of 45 total commits or signees outside the composite top 300, which is 60%.

since Herman’s first full class in 2018, UT has taken only 22 out of 64 outside of the top 300, which is only 34%. 

If you extrapolate that rate out over 4 classes, UT’s 85 man roster will have 56 blue chip players, while A&M’s will only have 34. 

So while UT and A&M’s classes will probably finish around the same spot in 2019 and 2020, the quality of players taken by UT is significantly higher and that will come into play even more once both coaches have a roster full of their own players.

 

 

Not seeing the BOMC Bump token into account there, sir, nor the Diamonds In the Rough Identification Percentage. 

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10 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

It wasn’t an error, it was an attempt at humor since there was an ad hominem attack and ctj is kind of a homonym because it is being used as an acronym for two different things. 

I've slept and am feeling like less of a jerk. I am sorry for the way I described your pun and responded to you.

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12 hours ago, USMCHorn said:

Yup. Once they get around real service academy grads they stfu. That said, I've met a ton of Horn fans, officer and enlisted. Lots of Longhorn decals on vehicles. People from Texas usually root for the Horns when they're performing well.  I was in during the Colt McCoy years so shit was everywhere. We'd hit a local wing bar - it'd be fucking packed - and down so much beer on a Saturday. Good times man. Also, Bama fans are everywhere in the military my god. 

I was in from 98-02.  The 2000/2001 RRS fiasco's and the Big 12 championship meltdown had a few of us die hard UT fans laying low for all the shit we talked heading into those games.. at least we had pitchers and pitchers of beer to sulk in.

 

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aggy has figured out that if you count the adjacent 2 counties, the population of their region almost doubles to 250k. Boom! It's not a cowtown! To the contrary, B-CS largest private employer is Sanderson Farms chicken. See, they're not a cowtown. They're a goddamn chicken town. 

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11 hours ago, fellside said:

If it's determined that a player transferred for athletic reasons, they are ineligible for one season.  This happened with the Weatherford qb (committed to Vanderbilt) who transferred from Azle.

I have no idea what UIL rules are but in the state we presently live in you have to show both a new job location for a parent and a domicile move of at least 50 miles to play the next season or that your previous school no longer offers ANY varsity sports.

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13 minutes ago, Chopper said:

aggy has figured out that if you count the adjacent 2 counties, the population of their region almost doubles to 250k. Boom! It's not a cowtown! To the contrary, B-CS largest private employer is Sanderson Farms chicken. See, they're not a cowtown. They're a goddamn chicken town. 

And they'll keep fucking that chicken. 

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20 minutes ago, USMCHorn said:

I wonder if Aggy has ever asked themselves "Why don't we have "t-shirt" fans?"

But then again self reflection isn't a well know aggy quality.

Aggy has plenty of t-shirt fans. They just typically look the same as actual alumni.

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8 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Uh oh, Eaton better watch out, since aggy CB recruiting is going so well (thanks Linguist!)

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So a coach willing to fight for his players and celebrating with his players is frowned upon, but a coach hitting his players is okay: 

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Classic aggy.

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On 7/30/2019 at 11:01 PM, Machinator said:

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On 7/30/2019 at 10:32 AM, Lobwedgephil said:

Billy. 

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• First, some thoughts on the Aggies' lone commitment of the weekend - A&M Consolidated WR Devin Price‍:

As is the case with many 'expected' commits, Devin's commit didn't get as much run as it should have from various media outlets or perhaps even on the A&M-centric message boards (including the biggest and baddest of them all). Here's the best way I can put it when talking about the newest member of the Ags' Class of 2020:

As a three-star recruit, Devin Price is going to be looked at as an absolute steal in a couple of years for the Aggies. Look, he's younger than most members of his class and isn't close to filling out or probably even growing, so the local standout's best football is still at least a couple of years ahead of him. That said, I haven't seen many prospects come as far as fast as what I've seen from the A&M legacy. If you watched Devin play (or even just saw him in person) two years ago, last year at this time and compared that to where he is today, it's like you're watching a different dude entirely. He's gotten better in every area of the game - size, speed, playmaking skills and, perhaps more than anything, Devin is now a supremely confident player when he's on the field.

 

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With long arms and an ability to get above defenders, Price has an impressive ability to come down with contested balls.

At over 6-3 and with long arms and good leaping ability, Price's catch radius is off the charts type stuff and, when it comes to locating the football and coming down with the contested catch, he may just be better than anyone in the state outside of Demond Demas‍. That and a feel for the game are strengths of Devin's game right now, and he's elite in both areas. A developmental prospect? If you wish, but I'm here to tell you I cannot wait to see what Price looks like after what should be a ridiculously productive senior season at Consol and a year to blossom under the watchful eyes of Dameyune Craig and Jerry Schmidt as either a redshirt or backup for the Aggies in 2020. I think we'll be talking about a 6-4, 220-pound outside receiver and absolute matchup nightmare in the red zone and on 50/50 balls. Price - who caught 46 passes for 799 yards and an eye-catching 14 touchdowns last season and has hauled in 21 TD grabs over the past two years - has got some Lil'Jordan Humphrey to his game if you don't mind the Longhorn comparison.

Price's addition means the Aggies are done at receiver in 2020, a class that is likely to rate among the most highly-regarded in the country. What a ridiculously strong haul for Craig, who went out and got exactly who he wanted this cycle.

• Don't look now, but there are suddenly a couple of very real and very exciting options for Mike Elko and Mo Linguist at safety. A couple of weeks ago, this was a position that had the potential to be a bit of a concern. Over the weekend, the Aggies played host to two of the nation's best in Shadow Creek playmaker Xavion Alford‍ (pictured above) and East St. Louis (IL) standout Antonio Johnson‍. 

Johnson decommitted from Tennessee on Sunday evening, something the Ags were expecting following a tremendous first visit to College Station. Word I'm hearing is that the 6-2, 185-pounder is likely to zero in on A&M and Alabama. If you'll remember, Fisher, Elko and Co. had reason to be very confident they could land Johnson earlier in the process for a reason. It's also worth noting that the four-star didn't decommit following a summer visit to Bama but did after tripping to Aggieland. File that one away as interesting/telling because it's the same thing fellow Midwest DB target Dontae Manning‍ did when he saw what A&M had to offer and decommitted from OU shortly after his visit.

 

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A&M has prioritized Shadow Creek safety Xavion Alford, who is also considering Alabama and LSU.

Xavion Alford's stock has soared throughout the summer and the Houston-area defender rates as a high-priority target for Fisher, Elko, Linguist and the Aggies. The Ags put their best foot forward this weekend and then some with a dynamic defensive back who is still mulling options that include LSU, Bama and A&M. Xavion has never really had any sort of set time frame for a decision, but the Aggies making a move up his list when they did could prove pivotal in the four-star cover man's recruitment. Fellow 'Fast 7' team members Leon O'Neal and Josh Eaton‍ (who will announce his decision on August 6) could go a long way here, as will proximity to home and the fact that the Ags don't have a safety committed.

Love the odds right now of the Ags landing at least one of these two elite safety targets at some point not too far down the road. Land both plus Josh Eaton and Dontae Manning to go along with Jaylon Jones and Joshuah Moten and you're talking about a top 3-5 DB haul in the country in 2020.

• Safety, quarterback and running back. Three positions some of you (we know who you are) were in a borderline panic-stricken state about as recently as earlier this month. Haynes King‍'s commitment turned a question mark into an exclamation point at QB and significant progress (perhaps even a push to the top with both players) was made at safety this weekend. How things will play out at the tailback spot might just be the most interesting follow between now and National Signing Day. A&M has as good a chance as teams like LSU, Bama and Georgia at eventually landing Zach Evans‍, and the Ags have what I would consider an excellent chance at landing Daniyel Ngata‍ (we're hearing he's very close) and Devon Achane‍. EJ Smith‍ isn't one to tip his hand, but the son of NFL legend Emmitt Smith is coming off of an outstanding College Station visit, and we're in the middle of seeing Fisher, Jay Graham and the Ags making a furious push for the Dallas-area RB's services. Should be fascinating to see how things play out in the backfield.

• Not surprisingly, the Ags have done a great job of recruiting Florida since Jimbo Fisher's arrival, and that trend is likely to continue in 2020 and '21. A&M played host to a handful of elite prospects out of the Sunshine State over the weekend and came out of it looking like the team to beat for at least three top-tier targets.

One of the biggest storylines of the weekend had to do with the Ags' skyrocketing up Miami pass-rusher extraordinaire Donell Harris' list... Texas A&M is absolutely positioned as the team to beat for the game-changing edge rusher's services.

One of the biggest storylines of the weekend had to do with the Ags' skyrocketing up Miami pass-rusher extraordinaire Donell Harris‍‍' list. For those who don't know, Harris was a five-star 2021 prospect and a Miami commit about six weeks ago.  Since that time, he's decommitted from The U, reclassified to the Class of 2020 and is coming off of such a tremendous visit to Aggieland that he considered announcing an A&M pledge upon arriving back in Florida. Harris hasn't yet made the official call, but Texas A&M is absolutely positioned as the team to beat for the game-changing edge rusher's services.

It's still very early in the game, but the Aggies also look like a potential front-runner for both 2021 linebacker Terrence Lewis‍ of Miami powerhouse Northwestern High (where Fisher did plenty of work during his time in Tallahassee) and explosive all-purpose 2021 back Amari Daniels‍ of Miami's Central HS.

• An interesting way to look at things coming out of a busy weekend of recruiting movement for the Aggies? I'd say it's fair to chart A&M's progress with some of their top remaining targets in two ways. Prospects Jimbo Fisher and Co. probably made up the most ground and made the biggest move with would probably include Miami (FL) DE Donell Harris, East St. Louis (IL) S Antonio Johnson, Shadow Creek S Xavion Alford and Dallas Jesuit RB EJ Smith, in that order. As far as prospects I would have said the Ags already led for entering the weekend and, in some cases, have for some time now, it's safe to say A&M's position was strengthened significantly with guys like Memphis OL Chris Morris‍, Aldine MacArthur CB Josh Eaton, FB Marshall RB Devon Achane and Manor DE Princely Umanmielen‍. If you're wondering about Zach Evans, I've kind of got the North Shore tailback in his own category. Jimbo Fisher and the Ags are playing the long game with the nation's No. 1-ranked runner, and every exceptional visit like the one this past weekend only increases A&M's chances of reeling in the biggest fish out there.

• Current dream finish in the trenches for the Aggies?

1. Close out Chris Morris on the o-line when he visits Alabama weekend in early October (this one looks more likely than ever).

2. Eventually close out Princely Umanmielen at defensive end, probably sometime this fall (far from done but the Ags appear to be in a very good spot).

3. Pull off the mother of all coups and sign a borderline five-star pass rusher in Donell Harris (it'll be a wild ride until December but a pre-season commit is still very much in play).

4. Overtake and outlast Oklahoma (and whoever else) in the battle for the signature of Athens OT Garrett Hayes‍.

The good news? If Signing Day were tomorrow, I believe the three who were at the BBQ on Friday would ink with the Ags.

 

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The Aggies continue to create problems for UT in recruiting, and many believe A&M could grab DT Omari Thomas out of Memphis.

• I mentioned this last week, but boy oh boy, are the Aggies becoming a potential thorn in the side of the Tennessee Volunteers and former Fisher assistant Jeremy Pruitt. Last cycle, it was the Ags pulling coveted linebacker Chris Russell out of the Vols' backyard late. Last month, it was Dallas Walker‍ and a monster Maroon & White win for Haynes King. Today? Memphis four-star Chris Morris is a definitive A&M lean and Antonio Johnson opens things up one day after leaving College Station. And I'm here to tell you that my sources in the real Orange and White are understandably nervous about A&M eventually winning the Omari Thomas‍ sweepstakes as well (the Vols think the Ags are their biggest threat when it comes to the four-star Memphis DT's signature).

• As we approach the final quarter or so of the 2020 recruiting marathon, there's really just one position that you'd say has to rate as a concern. The Ags are still very much in the hunt for five-star Noah Sewell‍, but the Utah product is still thought to be leaning heavily in favor of the Oregon Ducks. Beyond that, we're probably talking about Mike Elko and Bradley Dale Peveto having to rally to find at least one and perhaps even two more LBs to fill the need. A&M did a great job of finding a couple of potential gems in Chris Russell and KeShun Brown down the stretch for the 2019 class, and the Ags may have to do the same this time or the position will undoubtedly be Priority No. 1A and 1B in 2021.

• I thought having both Haynes King and Eli Stowers‍ on campus and together at the event was a great thing. It took a while, but we now have seen the value of having competition and good energy in a quarterback room. What Fisher and Darrell Dickey have done in terms of recruiting the most important position on the field cannot be understated as Texas A&M ascends the SEC mountain towards a championship. Good to see King on campus following his commit, too. He's going to attract a lot of skill talent to Aggieland from the '20 and '21 classes, and just having your quarterback on board, committed and recruiting for you is a good thing for the entire direction of a class.

 

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2021 North Shore WR Shadrach Banks is scheduled to announce his commitment on August 1.

• As far as the 2021 class goes, the next domino to fall could still very well be North Shore WR Shadrach Banks‍. Banks has been on a visit tour that has included A&M, LSU, Georgia, Virginia Tech, Tennessee and Bama over the past week or so, but as of last check, he is still planning to announce a pledge on Thursday, and things still sound positive for the Maroon & White. If the Ags could breakthrough at North Shore and beat division rivals like LSU and Bama for a playmaking talent like Banks, his commit would be every bit as significant as opening things up with the quarterback pegged as No. 1 on the '21 wish list (Eli Stowers III).

• Quick comment: Don't forget about guys like Demond Demas (as if), Jaylon Jones‍ (should be a five star), Blake Smith‍, Josh Bankhead‍ and Akinola Ogunbiyi‍ as the Ags' Class of 2020 continues its top-10 and, perhaps, eventually top-5 climb. Those dudes are doing a remarkable job of recruiting for Coach Fisher and the Aggies, something that cannot be pointed out enough.

• Interesting recruiting sidebar: LSU just landed 2021 DE Landyn Watson‍ of Hutto, which is the third time in the '20 or '21 cycle that Ed O and the Tigers have taken a front seven recruit from the Lone Star State that the Aggies had not offered (2020's Josh White‍ and Alec Bryant‍ are the others). As far as '21 goes, the Ags' in-state focus seems locked in on guys like Tunmise Adeleye‍ of Katy Tompkins, the Pleasant Grove duo of Landon Jackson‍ and Marcus Burris‍, Denton Ryan's Ja'tavion Sanders, Shemar Turner‍ of DeSoto and PA Memorial's Jordon Thomas‍.

• Okay, I did this last week but, as expected, a lot has transpired on the trail since then so let's do it again today. Here's my slightly updated 'Most likely to sign with A&M list':

1. Josh Eaton
2. Chris Morris
3. Donell Harris
4. Daniyel Ngata
5. Xavion Alford
6. Antonio Johnson
7. Devon Achane
8. Princely Umanmielen
9. Dontae Manning
10. Zach Evans
11. EJ Smith
12. Omari Thomas

• Finally, Howell wrote a short article about the late addition of Australian punter Nik Constantinou‍ yesterday and I thought I'd add a couple of notes and thoughts. First and foremost, I had a source tell me that Constantinou isn't 6-0, 190 but is actually 6-3 and nearly 230 pounds. He's a big dude with a very big leg. He'll have four years to play four so won't be able to redshirt next season. However, the Ags felt it was important to have a punter on campus this fall and it's fairly easy to understand why. Ray Guy Award winner Braden Mann is a senior and the Aggies will return a loaded squad in 2020...one capable of making a run at an SEC title and perhaps even more. In other words, getting Mann's hopeful replacement on campus and letting the Australian have a full season to work under the best in the college game while getting acclimated to American football should equal Constantinou being ready to step in and hit the ground running next fall. This is something that's been in the works for quite a while now and Nik is currently working through the red tape in hopes of being here in time for the start of fall camp later this week.

 

 

11 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Uh oh, Eaton better watch out, since aggy CB recruiting is going so well (thanks Linguist!)

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This sequence of Looch posts is amazing. 

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50 minutes ago, texifornia said:

"Many people have told me. The best people."

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I don’t know about anyone else, but not once in my life have I ever heard a UT alum regret or renounce their degree. Not once. I’ve had plenty of aggies tell me sheepishly that they went there, but they’re “not into all of the dorky stuff”, especially women. It’s a pretty common theme, actually. 

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11 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Attritionpalooza has started in earnest. Mohammed Diallo, Ondario Robinson, and TD Moton were not on the roster released today to signal the start of fall camp.

 

That puts them at 84 going into the season, and 9 spots over the 85 man limit with the current 2020 class.

Were any of these guys surprises? 

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12 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I don’t know about anyone else, but not once in my life have I ever heard a UT alum regret or renounce their degree. Not once. I’ve had plenty of aggies tell me sheepishly that they went there, but they’re “not into all of the dorky stuff”, especially women. It’s a pretty common theme, actually. 

Probably 80% of women I know who went there self identify as 2%ers. As for the other 20%.... Well, everyone knows there are a shit ton of aggy in Houston. You’re bound to run into some idiots when the pool to choose from is that large. 

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Just now, UDontKnow said:

If Ondario Robinson is the DE from Hutto that Texas was recruiting, consider me mildly surprised.

Well he stole a bike his freshman year: https://www.theeagle.com/aggie_sports/a-m-defensive-end-ondario-robinson-arrested-on-theft-charge/article_ad52ee54-b37f-11e7-9b2d-238e68eefab1.html

Then ran into a semi this year (though that might not be his fault): https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-am-football-defensive-tackle-ondario-robinson-scary-car-accident-222716581.html

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31 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I don’t know about anyone else, but not once in my life have I ever heard a UT alum regret or renounce their degree. Not once. I’ve had plenty of aggies tell me sheepishly that they went there, but they’re “not into all of the dorky stuff”, especially women. It’s a pretty common theme, actually. 

The same "UT alums" are likely the guest visitors at Kyle Field who were lost & received a personal escort by Aggy Nation all while having the best game day experience & hospitality of their lives.

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13 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I don’t know about anyone else, but not once in my life have I ever heard a UT alum regret or renounce their degree. Not once. I’ve had plenty of aggies tell me sheepishly that they went there, but they’re “not into all of the dorky stuff”, especially women. It’s a pretty common theme, actually. 

I have trust, and trust me you don’t want them associated with UT now.

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