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LOL, a member of parliament's head of communications announced his resignation by hijacking the parliament member's Twitter account and changed the password so the tweets can't be deleted.  He then proceeded to basically tell the parliament member to fuck off.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/jaredomaramp/status/1153742493034438656

 

Comms Team signing off... forever: Jared, you are the most disgustingly morally bankrupt person I have ever had the displeasure of working with. You do not care about your constituents. You do not care about anyone but yourself.

I cannot and will not defend you and your vile, inexcusable contempt for the people who voted you in. You selfish, degenerate prick.

My fear is that now (as I quit) the rest of the staff will leave and once again you will close your office and stop helping anyone but still take your wages until you have the decency to call a byelection.

Leaving constituents desperate for representation again. No matter if they are having their homes taken away, their liberaties disgraced or being deported because of your inaction.

Sheffield Hallam deserves so much better than you. You have wasted opportunities which people dare not to even dream of.

Consider this my resignation. Thanks Gareth Arnold

 

 

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1 minute ago, relapse98 said:

That's just awesome. Boom.

Yeah....shit, I don't even much care where the politician falls on the issues....if he's a duplicitous self-serving shitheel, I LOVE seeing him called out and burned to the ground.  We need more of that.  A LOT more.  Like, infinitely more.

And, his Comms director should never have to pay for a pint again.

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7 hours ago, bolverk said:

And that no-deal Brexit might just be what sends the global economy into the overdue recession.

The most sure-fire way to ensure that Trump loses re-election is for there to be a recession in November 2020.  And Boris Johnson is just the guy to deliver it via a no-deal Brexit.

 

Honestly, Boris Johnson's ascension to the premiership may be the high-water mark of this round of global populist insanity.

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46 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I don’t keep up too closely with uk politics and the brexit details.  Is it really thought that Boris can pull together the votes to produce a brexit plan, or will he be stuck with too few votes like May. 

No different plan will be offered by the EU, and very likely, no further extensions granted for no deal Brexit. And nobody believes the votes exist for May’s deal

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I don’t keep up too closely with uk politics and the brexit details.  Is it really thought that Boris can pull together the votes to produce a brexit plan, or will he be stuck with too few votes like May. 


I don’t think Boris will just accept the EU deal. I also don’t think he is going to delay Brexit. I anticipate him defying convention in some unexpected way that gets everyone’s panties in a wad. This brinksmanship behavior may lead the EU to offer an improved deal. It may also just lead to a crash out.
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7 minutes ago, bernorange said:

A global economic downturn is going to happen whether Brexit happens or not.  Hell Deutsche Bank (leading contender for Lehman 2.0) might beat a no deal Brexit to the punch.

Yes, a downturn is coming -- both the signals and timing are there.

Trumpism and Brexit may well be the turbo-boost that makes it hit ludicrous speed, though.  And neither of them have a clue or any credibility when it comes to deploying the tools to soften the blow.  That's the concern, dude.

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It's not just the Scots - even the Welsh are now protesting to leave the UK because of Brexit. I didn't know that was even a "thing".

Thank gawd for Mississippi Britain.

 

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will patiently wait for first welch joke
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On 7/27/2019 at 2:03 PM, bolverk said:

It's not just the Scots - even the Welsh are now protesting to leave the UK because of Brexit. I didn't know that was even a "thing".

Thank gawd for Mississippi Britain.

 

It never has been until now. That’s what a catastrophic failure this policy really is: that it could cause the Welsh, aka the most docile member of the UK’s history, is actually talking about independence. It’s one thing for the Scots and the Irish to do so. They always have. But the Welsh? They never do that.

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1 hour ago, hpslugga said:

It never has been until now. That’s what a catastrophic failure this policy really is: that it could cause the Welsh, aka the most docile member of the UK’s history, is actually talking about independence. It’s one thing for the Scots and the Irish to do so. They always have. But the Welsh? They never do that.

They weren't always so docile.  They were a pain in the ass for quite a few Kings of England.  Their location allowed them to be more thoroughly crushed than the Irish or Scots.

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28 minutes ago, kevwun said:

They weren't always so docile.  They were a pain in the ass for quite a few Kings of England.  Their location allowed them to be more thoroughly crushed than the Irish or Scots.

Maybe one upside to this clusterfuck will be the entertainment of an independent England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and Northern Ireland all fighting and shit with each other.  Longbows for the win.

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3 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

SIAP, but have you all seen "The Great Hack"  on Netflix. It's disturbing on several levels.  Here's a review:

https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/7/25/8930283/great-hack-review-netflix-facebook-cambridge-analytica
 

I highly recommend the movie Brexit on HBO.   Basically the same info dramatized.    The Great Hack had important things to say, but I thought it really dragged while trying to tell the personal sagas of the CA whistle-blower and the guy who sued CA, neither of which really went anywhere. 

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Maybe one upside to this clusterfuck will be the entertainment of an independent England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and Northern Ireland all fighting and shit with each other.  Longbows for the win.

I’d suggest that the Irish and northern Irish  reunite and that those 4 entities merge into a political and economic union known as the Federated Union of Celtic Kingdoms.

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Boris buddy owns company that has built network of "fake news" Facebook pages promoting right wing propaganda.

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The lobbying firm run by Boris Johnson’s close ally Sir Lynton Crosby has secretly built a network of unbranded “news” pages on Facebook for dozens of clients ranging from the Saudi government to major polluters, a Guardian investigation has found.

In the most complete account yet of CTF Partners’ outlook and strategy, current and former employees of the campaign consultancy have painted a picture of a business that appears to have professionalised online disinformation, taken on a series of controversial clients and faced incidents of misogynistic bullying in its headquarters.

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The news follows the Guardian’s April report that Crosby’s company was behind a series of hugely influential pro-Brexit Facebook groups, which spent as much as £1m seeding the idea of a no-deal exit from the EU in the minds of the British public.

But the latest revelations reveal that the company has pursued that approach more broadly, in the service of previously unreported corporate interests and foreign governments.

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The company’s approach is a sophisticated application of the well worn communications technique of astroturfing, where political campaigners attempt to create the perception of an upswell of grassroots support for a cause.

One former employee described how Crosby’s business created Facebook pages on specific topics to spread disinformation to interested members of the public in the UK and abroad. “It would all be anonymised and made to look as though they are a news aggregator with a specialist angle,” the employee said. “For instance, if we were working to promote the use of coal, it would be an anti-environmental page. You might make a page designed to attract pro-Trump types and get them revved up about green subsidies.”

Staff members said that they created websites and Facebook pages which appeared to be independent online news sources with names such as Why Electricity Matters, Reporting Yemen and Londoners for Transport, but instead could be used to distribute highly selective information which reached tens of millions of readers.

Multiple supposedly independent pages on behalf of different clients could then be managed by Crosby employees through a single high-level “business manager” account, which sidesteps Facebook’s transparency tools. The connection between the pages is not visible to normal Facebook users.

full story:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/01/revealed-johnson-allys-firm-secretly-ran-facebook-propaganda-network

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On 7/28/2019 at 6:24 PM, Brisketexan said:

Maybe one upside to this clusterfuck will be the entertainment of an independent England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and Northern Ireland all fighting and shit with each other.  Longbows for the win.

You know how I remember (well, one easy heuristic) the constituent countries of the UK? 

I'll tell you. Van Morrison (peace be upon Him) has a song with the lyrics "England, Ireland (NI) Scotland, Wales" in it.

There ya go. Life pro tip, dude.

But all this just shows how afraid the white, non-educated, working class, elderly folk are. 

Pale, male, and stale. That says it all. Die already. (I don't mean that in a bad way. They can just go meet Jesus sooner. So, win-win.)

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On a train through the UK now on my way up to Glasgow.

Until recently, the flags in the small towns in England were always the Union Flag.  Once you got north of Hadrian's Wall, you'd see St. Andrew's Cross.  But south of the border, it was always the Union Flag.

That's not true anymore.  Now, in almost every English town I saw the red St. George's Cross flying.  

Yeah--it's hard to take too many things away from a train ride.  But it is striking, especially since the English flag has earned certain connotations vis-a-vis white nationalism.  

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3 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

On a train through the UK now on my way up to Glasgow.

Until recently, the flags in the small towns in England were always the Union Flag.  Once you got north of Hadrian's Wall, you'd see St. Andrew's Cross.  But south of the border, it was always the Union Flag.

That's not true anymore.  Now, in almost every English town I saw the red St. George's Cross flying.  

Yeah--it's hard to take too many things away from a train ride.  But it is striking, especially since the English flag has earned certain connotations vis-a-vis white nationalism.  

Are you talking about flags flying from random houses and buildings, or like an "official town flag" sort of thing? 

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2 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Are you talking about flags flying from random houses and buildings, or like an "official town flag" sort of thing? 

Both.  It's really quite striking to me, as I've spent a fair amount of time in the UK over the years.

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Brexit: EU 'refusing to negotiate', says Gove

Cabinet minister Michael Gove says the EU "seem to be refusing to negotiate with the UK" over a new Brexit deal.

Mr Gove, who is responsible for no-deal planning, said he was "deeply saddened" that Brussels was, in his words, saying "no, we don't want to talk".

It comes after the EU said UK demands to remove the Irish backstop from Theresa May's deal were unacceptable.

Irish PM Leo Varadkar has reiterated that the withdrawal deal, including the backstop, cannot be renegotiated.

The European Commission said it was willing to hold further talks, "should the UK wish to clarify its position".

Meanwhile, a group of politicians has started a legal action aimed at preventing Boris Johnson shutting down Parliament to force through a no-deal Brexit.

Theresa May's deal has been rejected three times by MPs and as things stand, the UK will leave the EU on 31 October whether it has agreed a new one or not.

On Monday, EU negotiators told European diplomats there was currently no basis for "meaningful discussions" and talks were back where they were three years ago.

A senior EU diplomat reportedly said a no-deal Brexit appeared to be the UK government's "central scenario".

Addressing those suggestions, Mr Gove said: "At the moment, it's the EU that seems to be saying they're not interested, they are simply saying 'no, we don't want to talk'.

 

The whole Brexit thing is terribly aggy.

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I always thought the EU was a great idea that would never work.  Those fuckers been fighting each other since the decline of the Western Roman Empire.  Still, when you look at it from that perspective, this is a pretty minor glitch.  It's been going alright since the end of the last big war.

 

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31 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I always thought the EU was a great idea that would never work.  Those fuckers been fighting each other since the decline of the Western Roman Empire.  Still, when you look at it from that perspective, this is a pretty minor glitch.  It's been going alright since the end of the last big war.

 

Yeah, you'd figure the frogs and the krauts would have been at each other more than they have, not to mention some of the smaller eastern and central countries.  Guess it's a testament to how cowed they all are after the war and enduring the Soviet threat.

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